tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post2297373730410949758..comments2024-03-28T21:59:50.423+05:30Comments on TRISHUL: Choosing Between ‘Greenfield FMBT’ & Arjun Mk3Prasun K. Senguptahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17625525921341864605noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-68654743936251203252012-01-31T23:25:32.403+05:302012-01-31T23:25:32.403+05:30Indian Navy to Order Carrier Capable Rafale Fighte...<b><br /><a href="http://poultry-consultant.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Indian Navy to Order Carrier Capable Rafale Fighter Jet<br /></a><br /></b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-16842009356857403112011-08-02T11:46:46.747+05:302011-08-02T11:46:46.747+05:30Prasun Da thanks for this article
Main aapko shaht...Prasun Da thanks for this article<br />Main aapko shahtang pranam karta hu<br />Atlast there is someone who has the vision that if we cant develop things on our own, atleast we can reverse engineer the products. Sorry for being a repetitive, but reverse engineering some smaller defense systems like mentioned below can help us work on bigger systems on our own.<br />1. Develop on the upcoming FICVs with improvisation like outfitting them with 105 mm IFG that will give the APC heavy firing capability, a big advantage in mountainous areas of Sikkim, Arunachal, Himachal or J&K where Arjun, T-72, T90S/M cant operate properly since the roads or terrain are unsuitable. <br />2. DRDO labs can do simple reverse engineering work such as developing the Smerch 12 cell battery into a 8 cell battery on a 24 ton Tata TEL autoloader. <br /><br />3. IAF is looking for Cluster Bombs and Bunker Busters, either we ask for TOT or we can work on them or develop a similar by involving pvt co or engineering colleges. <br />4. We must stop going to international market to buy small spare parts, and promote companies like IPCL of Bhavnagar which manufactured India’s first Multi Mode Radar for Tejas aircraft and ask them to develop more products indigenously.<br />5. We must allow pvt co or even DPSU to source men, materials from around the world (Russian, German, Americans) to develop weapon systems.<br /><br />6. Above all we must stop buying weapons grade steel from foreign countries.<br /><br />If we can succeed atleast in these there will be a start, and then we can reverse engineer bigger and more complex systems what do you say<br /><br />Awaiting your reponse<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />Joydeep Ghoshjoydeep ghoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00038225081192821456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-88750089044735577272011-07-13T10:16:24.907+05:302011-07-13T10:16:24.907+05:30@ all
this is a blog and discussions are carried ...@ all<br /><br />this is a blog and discussions are carried on serious matters relating to security and national interest.<br /><br />So i request no profanity or vulgarity please<br /><br />thanks<br /><br />Joydeep Ghoshjoydeep ghoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00038225081192821456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-10283348930689730502011-07-13T02:25:03.547+05:302011-07-13T02:25:03.547+05:30Now please tell us about the specifications of the...Now please tell us about the specifications of the US drones, which are driving out some people away to these forums.Mr. Ranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-31911542902185747072011-07-12T23:05:45.810+05:302011-07-12T23:05:45.810+05:30To Anon@7.03PM: If you're really interested in...To Anon@7.03PM: If you're really interested in knowing more about the Babur clone of the C-602 missile, then kindly proceed to (http://trishulgroup.blogspot.com/2008/10/chinas-c-602-ascm-detailed.html) where I had uploaded photos in 2008 of all components of the missile, and also to (http://trishulgroup.blogspot.com/2008/12/babur-lacm-raad-alcm-detailed.html) where I had posted diagrams/charts of the Babur's fire-control and command-and-control systems. There you go...no more secrets.Prasun K. Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17625525921341864605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-56520303709367304782011-07-12T22:50:29.145+05:302011-07-12T22:50:29.145+05:30To Prabhakar: Precisely. Make HAL and BEL and all ...To Prabhakar: Precisely. Make HAL and BEL and all the Indian defence shipyards public-listed, give them the same kind of strategic financial/corporate autonomy as those enjoyed by the TATAs, L & T, Mahindra Defence, etc, and one will see a sea change in both attitudes, performance and corporate governance. Right now ADA post-Tejas Mk2 wants to preserve its status and is thus clamouring for the AMCA, while HAL cares two hoots about the AMCA and is gung-ho about the FGFA, MRTA and LCH, while NAL continues to daydream about the regional turbofan-powered airliners and regional twin-turboprops. If this attitude continues, how can there be national-level military-industrial consolidation? And why should the IAF continue to maintain the such infrastructrure of Base repair Depots when all over the world such depots are run by the private sector or joint sector companies? Why can’t all the existing BRDs therefore be merged into a single military-industrial entity and be publicly listed, and made to specialize on civil/military aircraft maintenance/repair/overhaul (MRO)? Why can’t ADA, ADE, DARE and NAL be merged into a single corporate entity and be made to become a centre of excellence regarding R & D on new-generation aircraft and avionics? Only if such new corporate entities are created will it be possible to fully absorb the kind of direct/industrial offsets that come with major military hardware procurements. Right now, as I see it, it will be next to impossible to absorb the offsets accrusing from programmes like the M-MRCA simply because the military-industrial might of India remains dwarfed and trunciated due to the sheer lack of the far-reaching structural economic reforms.Prasun K. Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17625525921341864605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-44210521318689213762011-07-12T22:49:10.947+05:302011-07-12T22:49:10.947+05:30To Anon@7.03PM: You’re more than welcome to prove ...To Anon@7.03PM: You’re more than welcome to prove anything you want to anybody at a place and time of your own choosing, but here are the ‘facts’: <br />1) No one from either Pakistan or China has so far shown a film/video of the JF-17 Thunder being ‘built’ from raw materials or even fuselage sections being machined at either PAC Kamra. All the posters revealed thus far by both the ISPR and APP show the JF-17 to be licence-assembled with components being imported in CKD condition from CAC Chengdu. Therefore, in essence, the facility of PAC Kamra is a Rebuild Factory just like those for the Mirage III/V.<br />2) Leave alone the Shaheens being made 100% in Pakistan, even the TELs are of foreign origin from both North Korea and China. Can you guide us to the Missile Brigade that is equipped with the Shaheen-2? I ask this because to date the ISPR has publicly identified the concerned Missile Brigades for the Shaheen-1, Ghaznavi and Ghauri-1, but none for the Shaheen-2. What does that indicate? Regarding Babur, the less said the better for I’ve been to CPMIEC’s factories in Sichuan and Chengdu and I’ve had since 2005 video presentations of not only the C-602, but also the CJ-10. <br />3) FYI Baktar Shikan or its parent, the HJ-8 Red Arrow are no longer in use by the PLA as the AKD-10 ATGM has already replaced the Red Arrow. Go through the images of ALIT’s exhibits during the IDEX 2011, LAAD 2011 and Paris Air Show 2011 expos and you will see this for yourself.<br />I don’t think you’re doing justice to me by calling me Gandhupta since I was never born in Taxiola and so I don’t have any “Gandhara’ blood or DNA in me.<br /><br />To Anon@7.23PM: What we have is a notion of being a strong country, whereas the reality is quite the opposite. A few examples here will suffice. Firstly, a country need not be overrun militarily. It can be done economically, which is exactly what China is now doing. Way back in the early 1990s the Chinese duped India into agreeing to convert the political boundary known as the McMahon Line into a ceasefire line called the LAC. What this means is that the LAC’s existence is determined by a temporary military ceasefire, meaning it can be altered anytime by either party using military means. This cardinal effort was committed by the late PM P V Narasimha Rao and was failure was further reinforced by former PM A B Vajpayee. Secondly, by now blurring the red line between the LAC and LoC (thereby raising the possibility of fighting a two-front war in J & K), both Pakistan and China have joined forces to unilaterally reduce the length of the LAC and as a result, Beijing today considers the entire J & K as disputed territory. And India can’t do anything to reverse this since the present Indian PM had said way back in 2005 that the India-Pakistan peace process is irreversible, thereby totally ruling out the use of any kind of military force against Pakistan. In conclusion, the REAL TRUTH is that the biggest enemy of enemy is not China or Pakistan, but the successive Govts of India since the early 1990s.<br /><br />To Anon@7.33PM: The solutions are simple and were highlighted way back in 1999/2000 when the Kargil Committee’s report was fortunately declassified by the govt headed by A B Vajpayee. All the urgently required structural reforms concerning higher strategic decision-making need to be implemented in toto. Only then can India’s armed forces engage in rightsizing processes. Military-industrial reforms are also necessary, for otherwise the MoD-owned DPSUs will continue to milk the country of precious resources. Implementation of these steps is what decisive and purposeful governance is all about.Prasun K. Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17625525921341864605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-43880866364209098542011-07-12T21:30:47.525+05:302011-07-12T21:30:47.525+05:30Anon 7.03, scared to reveal urself reflects on u a...Anon 7.03, scared to reveal urself reflects on u and ur country guts. Gud. .as usual scared. May be frm BR or Pak. Both r fanatics! !Atulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-1784000148421671022011-07-12T20:05:38.529+05:302011-07-12T20:05:38.529+05:30@Anon 7:03PM If we are talking of Jf-17 then it is...@Anon 7:03PM If we are talking of Jf-17 then it is as Paki as Su-30 Mki is Indian. While Su-30 Mki has some indigenous components we say its Russian. Jf-17 is less Pakistani than that.<br />Second, talking of missile program go and Check what happened to Ghauri-III missile that Pakistan was developing for last 11 years. To make it easy for you let me tell you what happened to that- Funding stopped in 2004. This was made public only in 2011.<br />And last but not least, dont poison our forums with hatred and insults. We openly discuss matters, there is no place for your swearing here.Tarun Pratapnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-63724374682251427472011-07-12T19:53:25.399+05:302011-07-12T19:53:25.399+05:30@Anon 7:23 But that doesn't mean we shall not ...@Anon 7:23 But that doesn't mean we shall not increase, improve our operational readiness. DRDO, HAL are awesome but they have some defects too and we must strive to remove those defects. If you ever want to be great you must realise shortcomings and fix them.<br /><br />@Anon 7:03 Why are you insulting Prasun? And why you are claiming that Pakistan gives technology to China! Seriously, wake the hell up.Prabhakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-3218890123732352352011-07-12T19:33:44.202+05:302011-07-12T19:33:44.202+05:30am Anon@1.18PM
what you are mentioning are the pr...am Anon@1.18PM<br /><br />what you are mentioning are the problems, but what are the solutions? <br />you cite Israel and Russia. but are they good example, both are struggling at their best to keep disturbances to minimum. Unlike the high praiseworthy commando operations the aftereffects are not always in desired ways. the intifadas were the worst examples. i agree Israel has very less option to choose. But it is not the case with India.<br /><br />i donot beleive that a military effort can alone keep up a country, then pakistan, north korea, myanmar etc would have been successful. A powerful military along with an even powerful civilian leadership only can keep up the country...best example is USA...i think we should emulate them...iron fist with a soft glove.<br /><br />Agree that by being soft we are asking militants to target us, but sometimes being soft is also a wise diplomacy. No wonder many treat retreat as one of the fine art.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-86167108445093592812011-07-12T19:23:24.472+05:302011-07-12T19:23:24.472+05:30Dear Sir
If Everything was SO BAD with Indian A...Dear Sir <br /><br />If Everything was SO BAD with Indian Armed forces then we would have been OVERRUN by China and Pakistan <br /><br />Obviously we ARE a strong country <br /><br />Pakistan and China are NOT DOING any favours to India by not attacking us<br /><br />It is quite possible that India's REAL STRENGTH is known to the enemies BUT ; Govt Of India DOES NOT tell it to the people of IndiaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-63079247142880920102011-07-12T19:03:30.416+05:302011-07-12T19:03:30.416+05:30Dear Gandhupta, JF-17 is made in Kamra using China...Dear Gandhupta, JF-17 is made in Kamra using China technology, just like how Tejas and Dhruv is made in India using Israel/USA/France/Italy/Russia ... ... technology.<br /><br />Shaheen is 100% made in Pakistan and so is babur, what u say is PROVEN wrong. Read: <a rel="nofollow">http://www.fas.org/news/pakistan/1999/fbis-nes-1999-0422.htm</a><br /><br />Bhakter Shikan uses A few Chinese components but as of 2010, even China buys many of the key technologies from Pakistan, eg. the rocket forging, the cear 2'oclock alloy flap, the fuel cut-off switch (bought from Hamdan mills), the 4 axis burn-out tubes and the central chord.<br /><br />U want me to prove this to u??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-17692375290373211112011-07-12T17:12:17.613+05:302011-07-12T17:12:17.613+05:30To Joydeep Ghosh: For border domination fire-assau...To Joydeep Ghosh: For border domination fire-assaults one requires high-precision field artillery assets like the Caesar or Archer. 105mm guns are not as precise as 155mm howitzers, while MBRLs are at best area saturation weapons. Secondly, motorised 155mm/52-cal howitzers like the Caesar are easily air-transportable by C-130J-30 Hercules transports, while Smerch M-like MBRLs are not. The highly mobile APC with heavy firing capability you're referring to is interpreted by the Army to mean light tanks (tracked and wheeled) of the type now proliferating within China's PLA. The Indian T-90S MBTs do not have the Shtora. <br /><br />To Anon@4.47PM: The T-90S was ordered when the Arjun Mk1 was nowhere in sight. It was only after 2007 that the Indian Army became firmly convinced about the reliability and future growth potential of the Arjun and consequently, we today have the Arjun Mk1 and Mk2. I'm sure the Mk3 will follow inm far larger numbers and therefore the Indian Army is most unlikely to order a fourth tranche of T-90S MBTs.Prasun K. Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17625525921341864605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-40655288784462562612011-07-12T16:47:55.826+05:302011-07-12T16:47:55.826+05:30Dear Prasunda ,
Why cant the IA cancel the T-90 d...Dear Prasunda ,<br /><br />Why cant the IA cancel the T-90 deal and order more Arjun Mk1 and Mk2 instead ?<br /><br />T-90 is inferior to Arjun Mk1 and T-90M will be inferior to Arjun Mk2 whats the point in investing in such tanks ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-31501339247687268442011-07-12T16:39:35.573+05:302011-07-12T16:39:35.573+05:30@ Prasun da
what you said about 1,500 motorised 1...@ Prasun da<br /><br />what you said about 1,500 motorised 155nn/52-cal howitzers like the Caesar or Archer, but these essentially SPH, what we need is highly mobile APC with heavy firing capability.<br /><br />I believe the 8 cell Smerch on 24 ton truck can fill the gap between 12 cell Smerch and Pinaka but the advantage will derived are numerous inclusive of ability to move faster, lighter than smerch and can reach more inaccessible areas.<br /><br />Just one question does the T90S/M of India include the Shotra defense system<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />Joydeep Ghoshjoydeep ghoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00038225081192821456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-30503846965426768612011-07-12T16:27:10.399+05:302011-07-12T16:27:10.399+05:30To Anon@1.18PM: "As a democracy our biggest c...To Anon@1.18PM: "As a democracy our biggest concern would and should be keeping all party inclusive, even though it might be at a premium."<br />----------------------------------<br />Kindly give this excuse to the relatives of all those Indiand who have thus far died or perished while either combatting or as victims of communal violence or separatist movements or Maoist insurgencies. Decisive and purposeful governance is never possible when one seeks political accommodation. Statistically, it is a fact that 90% of the prevailing sperartist movements in India's northeast are devoid of any genuine grevience and are instead stoked by local politicians seeking to create their own political/economic space/powerbase. The same goes for tendencies prevailing in the Maoist heartland. And you want this beasts against humanity to be part of an all-inclusive society??? No wonder the country is becoming a soft and cushy state where individual human life has no value. At least in countries like Israel and Russia the top political leadership has consistently adopted a no-nonsense policy, and undertaken audacious counter-terrorist operations (like the ones at Entebbe and Beslan), while chose to relent furing the IC-814 incident in December 1999. If the present-day Indian political leadership doesn't re-orient its attitudnal outlook towards national security planning, the country will only sinker deeper into the abyss and many more 26/11s will happen.Prasun K. Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17625525921341864605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-88919428464370902172011-07-12T16:17:47.445+05:302011-07-12T16:17:47.445+05:30To Rahul: What I mean is re-engineering/redesignin...To Rahul: What I mean is re-engineering/redesigning the hull’s engine compartment for not only accommodationg a smaller gas turbine-based powerpack, but also reducing the thermal signature signature. And yes, incorporation of new-generation lightweight armour is imperative in order to do away the other option of with 1.5 tonnes of ERA tiles. The LV-100 gas turbine does away with several of the liabilities associated with the earlier AGT-1500 and its support reqmts will be no more than those reqd for the Arjun Mk1/2’s existing hydropneumatic suspensions. One must also note that the Indian Army’s no longer wants to make deep thrusts with its armoured divisions inside Pakistan, but is more inclined to go no more than 30km inside in a series of shallow thrusts in a stretch starting from Chicken’s Neck area all the way down to Sialkot or Fort Abbas. <br /><br />To Ganeshjee Vinayak: There are two problems with your scenario. Firstly, China and not Pakistan owns the IPR of the weapon systems you’ve mentioned. Secondly, Pakistan will never agree to unrestricted bilateral trade until the J & K issue is resolved. Why? Elementary, my dear fellow, for Pakistan, unlike India, does not want to create a business lobby inside itself that will force the country’s leadership to accept a political compromise that runs counter to the country’s supreme national interest. In India today the way here businessmen are procuring China-made goods and hardware just because they’re the cheapest is day by day leading to the creation of a very strong business lobby that is not at all bothered about the gaping bilateral trade deficit with China and instead, could in future force the Govt of India to enter into a compromise with China regarding the boundary/LAC issue that will be detrimental to India’s supreme national interests. That is why China on one hand is quite happy to leave the boundary issue unresolved, while Pakistan on the other hand is desperate to solve the J & K issue. That explains the totally contrasting attitude of India’s two immediate contiguous neighbours when it comes to settlement of the boundary issues.<br /><br />To Rohan: In any competitive bidding process there are two phases: one is the technical evaluation stage, which is over for the M-MRCA competition. The other is the final selection, which will be done NOT by the operator, but by the end-user, i.e. the Govt of India. And that is precisely why the present IAF Chief has off late been giving interviews in which he said that all six M-MRCA performed as advertised. What this means is that should the GoI, citing supreme nationbal enlightened interests, decides in favour of something like the Super Hornet International Roadmap, that would not mean overlooking the IAF technicasl evaluation parameters or com promising the IAF. Don't forget that in the early 1980s when the IAF had recommended to the then GoI that India go in for the Mirage 2000/4000 combination, this proposal was shot down and instead the Govt of India went in for the MiG-23MF, MiG-23BN, MiG-27M and MiG-29B-12. So, there have been precedents in the past when the IAF's serious-minded and well-meaning technical evaluations and recommendations were totally overlooked.Prasun K. Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17625525921341864605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-35069212085175263852011-07-12T15:36:11.154+05:302011-07-12T15:36:11.154+05:30that's interesting news ANON, shall we start a...that's interesting news ANON, shall we start a page on Wiki about the Gandhu missile?? Prasun, pls do a write up.<br />Regards,<br />Ram ModiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-13827986945099271152011-07-12T13:30:20.287+05:302011-07-12T13:30:20.287+05:30Hey check this out
jmr.janes.com/public/jmr/surfa...Hey check this out<br /><br />jmr.janes.com/public/jmr/surface_to_air.shtml<br /><br />Jane states the Barak 8 is under full production and Delivery's are under way...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-3715688372680654472011-07-12T13:27:10.337+05:302011-07-12T13:27:10.337+05:30i am taking the liberty of answering to anon@11.23...i am taking the liberty of answering to anon@11.23<br /><br />Unfortunately the destiny has bestowed us with such a wonderful neighbour!. had there been friendship of that sorts we first of all need not have any weapon at all! <br />the materials listed by you are not made in pakistan...they are just products of china or Ukraine (al-khalid0).you read through prasun's blogs to get an idea about what is 'real' around the world than going through the jingoism.<br /><br />and if pakistan was 1% willing to collaborate 99% of the problems of both countries are nonexistent. lets us hope for peace and for a day when our armed forces need to have batons only as the weapon, but ultimately that remains a hope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-6842476943937665752011-07-12T13:18:36.985+05:302011-07-12T13:18:36.985+05:30Prasun, you typically answer from only military po...Prasun, you typically answer from only military point of view. I beleive that the decision not to buy an American fighter is nothing short of a political one. going to the arms of US overtly would have been unacceptable to many of the signficant political parties such as left and the muslims. of course one can counter saying the P-8 deal or c-17 deal, but they are minnows infront of mmrca publicity...<br />of course going for an american fighter would also have annoyed china (recently India had shown some rudimentary interest in SCO even) and pakistan.<br />We cannot and should not think in lines with china or pakistan which are quasi dictator ship even havingt their merits of logical thinking.<br />As a democracy our biggest concern would and should be keeping all party inclusive, even though it might be at a premium. why you discount the price we have to pay for internal disturbance from leftists or fundamentalists for going to the arms of USA which is their sworn enemy.<br />so i guess infact we had in reality 2 options, either mig35 (which we didnt want i guess) or a european fighter...and i guess we made the choice. it works out cheap politically.<br /><br />it is the balance and checks that works in democracy where civilians control things which they may not seemingly be good at. best example is US in the Nixon era, where the intelligence agencies had the run of the country...but see how they balanced it. The democracy can be as good as its civilians only even in strategic matters unlike dictatorships which runs by strategic brains.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-57251031309117381152011-07-12T12:37:34.072+05:302011-07-12T12:37:34.072+05:30But da u havent discussed about rafale n typhoon,....But da u havent discussed about rafale n typhoon,. moreover since only rafale or typhoon are the only choices left,. We should forget f-18 n focus on threir pros n cons... Australians are buying 24 SH at $6 billion with 10 year support package,. or moreover 24 for $2.9b.. U havent discussed abt rafale n typhoon as such... Only these are the feasible solutin now.. so please a blog only over Typhoon HAL rafale EADS dassault france uk consoritum iaf needs two front war scenario capbilities... i have read all ur blogs bt havent got any satisfacory answer on this prospect.<br />Btw are not the europeans going for any development of 5th gen fighter..?? Have BAE n Dassault not got backing from their governments for 5th gen fighters... This can be a boon for India..a real lifeline for AMCA.. Or the europeans think that UCAV will be soon making 5th gen Obsolete..?? Aura or Amca... What should be our priority..??Rohannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-20159456004861620832011-07-12T11:21:58.316+05:302011-07-12T11:21:58.316+05:30I think this whole Arjun 3 / FMBT thing is a waste...I think this whole Arjun 3 / FMBT thing is a waste of our time and money. Instead of all this, I as a patriotic Indian firmly believe that we should just join hands with Pakistan and ourchase some 2000 Al-Khalid tanks. India can also avail other Pakistani defence products like JF-17 Thunder, Bhakter-Shikan ATGM, Shaheen Ballistic missiles and Babur Cruise Missile; and India can export Cars, Motorcycles, Machinery, Merchant Ships and textiles to Pakistan, where it has superior technology. In this case there will equilibrium and better relations between Pakistan and India.Ganeshjee Vinayaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-79872509725585876942011-07-12T10:30:20.500+05:302011-07-12T10:30:20.500+05:30Thanks for the article Prasun Sir. Some questions ...Thanks for the article Prasun Sir. Some questions i have related to weight reduction and tactical support.<br /><br />1) What weight budgeted HULL could mean? A redesigned shorter Hull or simply use of new light weight armor? <br /><br />2) A Gas Turbine for weight reduction is an attractive choice. But i wish to know, how far it will affect the logistic line in relation with so-called 'Cold Start'? <br /><br />Problem i see is that a gas turbine engine will require all exclusive support/supply line for fuel and since it will consume more liters/Km thereby putting huge pressure on support line in terms of volume.Rahulnoreply@blogger.com