tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post2550674995653720120..comments2024-03-28T21:59:50.423+05:30Comments on TRISHUL: (Updated) Naval UpdatesPrasun K. Senguptahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17625525921341864605noreply@blogger.comBlogger117125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-15853425943808489532011-11-18T23:06:59.492+05:302011-11-18T23:06:59.492+05:30To Anon^^^: Totally untrue. There's no such th...To Anon^^^: Totally untrue. There's no such thing happening there. In today's world where 1-metre resolution photos can be acquired at short notice at affordable costs by anyone, it would surely have come out into the open domain by now had any such thing took place. That is precisely why Indian news agencies and broadcast media never bother to spend money on acquiring sych satellite photos. Because if they do, they will realise that they're just engaging in tall claims, scaremongering and giving out disinformation. Consequently, they wonlt have a story to tell at all. So, better to disregard any form of documentary evidence and just go ahead and belch out false propaganda.Prasun K. Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17625525921341864605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-3065310440712890362011-11-18T16:37:21.741+05:302011-11-18T16:37:21.741+05:30Prasun,regarding the coco island airstrip. Is it t...Prasun,regarding the coco island airstrip. Is it then untrue then that the PLA use the island as an observation facility regularly or irregularly?.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-3472697527329744802011-11-18T10:47:34.263+05:302011-11-18T10:47:34.263+05:30To SBM: The number of FN-developed HMGs in Indian ...To SBM: The number of FN-developed HMGs in Indian Army service will go up in the coming years as the Army has zeroed in on it for its overall force midernisation efforts. As for the NSG, this pretty much sums it up: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/national-security-guards/1/159573.html<br /><br />To SK: The Skyranger will be employed for point-defence of vulnerable areas and vulnerable points--all static installations. It has already been integrated on-board a TATA heavy-duty truck as well as on a BMP hull. For mobile air defence for the Army, the BMP-mounted Skyranger along with the upgraded ZSU-23-4 Schilkas & Tunguska-M1s will be employed. For air-defence against NLOS-BSMs like the Hatf-9/Nasr, the Barak-2 MR-SAM will have to be employed. Iron Dome/David's Sling are employed against MBRLs/MLRS and cruise missiles, not NLOS-BSMs or TBMs.Prasun K. Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17625525921341864605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-64884454489235619612011-11-18T09:56:25.890+05:302011-11-18T09:56:25.890+05:30Prasun,
On a different note with Pak inducting ...Prasun,<br /> On a different note with Pak inducting the Nasr-7 with Tactical Nukes in it, what steps is IA taking to prevent them from using against its armored formations ? <br /><br /> Can the point defense Skyranger or Tungaska/Pantsir will be able to intercept them reliably. Will the SpyDer system able to distinguish the NASR from other MBRL rockets and engage them ? Won't a mobile version of the Israeli IronDome/David Sling provide better defence ? <br /><br /> DRDO is developing the ABM but Does it have any project to stop such Short range Rockets and artillery. Praahar is a offensive rocket with greater range but I am asking about defensive system.<br /> <br /> In the last question I was talking about comparing the land version (truck mounted) of the Phalnax C-RAM with SkyrangerSKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-12772050305141354122011-11-18T06:45:36.832+05:302011-11-18T06:45:36.832+05:30Thanks Prasun.
However it seems that the SPB vess...Thanks Prasun.<br /><br />However it seems that the SPB vessels still have a single HMG forward plus two LMGs on the bridge roof.<br /><br />How many FN HMGs is the army looking to procure ? Will the numbers proceed beyond the 17 needed for the boats or will the FN fill the HMG requirement that the army put out in its RFI ?<br /><br />On an unrelated point, since 2008 what new inductions of equipment have been made in the NSG ? More holographic sights for the MP-5s ? More SiG rifles ?<br /><br />Thankssbmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13090918961831389673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-71022663973097357672011-11-18T05:27:27.544+05:302011-11-18T05:27:27.544+05:30To SBM: It all boils down to the vessel’s seaworth...To SBM: It all boils down to the vessel’s seaworthiness certification criteria. The SPB’s interceptor craft are now equipped with OGB-built 7.62mm LMGs, not 12.7mm. The Army’s new acquisitions come built-in with soft-mounts for the 12.7mm HMG that also incorporates a mount for an integral thermal imager. The SPB’s gun-mounts don’t have these. Instead, separate HHTIs have to be carried by the on-board personnel. For more on the SPB’s future plans, the following links should suffice: <br /> <br />http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2148308.ece<br /><br />http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=51144<br /><br />http://www.indian-military.org/tag/sagar%20prahari%20bal.htmlPrasun K. Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17625525921341864605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-87173178855385586022011-11-18T04:18:43.372+05:302011-11-18T04:18:43.372+05:30Thanks Prasun. But why an FN HMG and not the Praha...Thanks Prasun. But why an FN HMG and not the Prahari 12.7mm guns fitted to the SPB vessels ? I mean I am seening thosw Prahari 12.7mm guns in many places: I think even the Headlines Today report showed one on the stern of the FAC on patrol and I believe the Super Dvoras have 1-2 along with 2 20mm guns. How many vessels does the SPB have at present ?sbmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13090918961831389673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-65025340042081646082011-11-18T03:58:29.953+05:302011-11-18T03:58:29.953+05:30Thanx for the replies and clarifications.Thanx for the replies and clarifications.Mr. Ra 13noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-10610151631181929482011-11-18T03:34:29.527+05:302011-11-18T03:34:29.527+05:30Looks like the HEADLINES TODAY news anchors and co...Looks like the HEADLINES TODAY news anchors and correspondents have this time really gone overboard with the much-overhyped Chinese naval threat to the A & C islands and Indian Ocean. Just look at the GoogleEarth photo posted by LIVEFIST of Great Coco Island. While the photo does show an airstrip with an asphalted runway, what the blog-owner has done--deliberately I presume--is to crop the dateline of the photo, which is 1/2/2006! BY spending just US$3,000 the management of HEADLINES TODAY could have easily obtained the latest 1-metre resolution imagery from either ANTRIX Corp or even DigitalGlobe, which would have revealed the truth to all, which is: there are no SIGINT facilities or air-defence installations there. All that there is is one terminal approach radar for the runway (for enabling IFR operations by India-supplied BN-2 Islander coastal MPAs) and an S-band sea surveillance radar atop a lighthouse off the island's southern tip. So much for investigative journalism!!!Prasun K. Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17625525921341864605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-86165644296187594232011-11-18T03:21:31.592+05:302011-11-18T03:21:31.592+05:30To SK: The Pantsyr-S1 is good for those countries ...To SK: The Pantsyr-S1 is good for those countries that do not have E-SHORADS or SHORADS. In India’s case, since the SpyDer-SRs are already being procured by the IAF and Indian Army, having a combined gun/missile-based air defence system won’t make much sense. Phalanx C-RAM is for naval defence against anti-ship cruise missiles and is not in the same league as the Pantsyr-S1. It will be better to compare the C-RAM with Russia’s Palma & Kashtan.<br /><br />To Mr.RA 13: As I explained above, everything depends on acquiring the seeker technology for the n-warheads for terminal-stage navigation. Without that, greater CEPs will be the consequence. But then again, going by the great Dr V K Saraswat’s recent utterances, one really doesn’t know what to make of them. Sample this: “Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO) chief V.K. Saraswat on Wednesday said the country makes missiles in order to meet security as opposed to competing with the latest technologies launched by other countries. On the issue of comparison with China and other countries, Saraswat responded saying that India was competing with only itself and praised Agni IV's capabilities. "See, our potential is for ourselves and whatever missiles we have made are in accordance to the level of threat we face. We do not think about what our adversaries have, it does not affect us because we are making these missiles for our own security," said Saraswat. <br />What exactly does all this mean? On one hand he’s talking about benchmarking the Agni-4 against the Pershing-2, and on the other he’s saying,” We do not think about what our adversaries have, it does not affect us…”. I reckon it’s high time such utterances are banned from being made public by the Raksha Mantri with immediate effect, for it is such utterances that tend to show the DRDO in very bad light.<br /><br />To Shree: There are no AESA-based radars operational with any branch of the PLA as of now. The radars on the Luyang-class FFGs are derivatives of the HT-233 target engagement radar used by the KS-1A/HQ-12 MR-SAM system, as are the radars for the HQ-16 naval LR-SAM and HQ-9 land-based LR-SAM. These LR-SAMs don’t have 200km-range, but less than 100km. The LR-SAM round is just a fattened and re-engineered version of the Russian 9M317M MR-SAM that is used by the naval Shtil-1 system and land-based Buk-M1. And the shipborne C-602 has a 300km-range. P-15 DDGs have been operational since 1997. Yes, BrahMos is a supersonic MRCM and it can be used for both maritime strike and land-attack. <br /><br />To SBM: Apologies for being unable to reply earlier. The fixed armament for the TEMPEST 35-SPC will be a 12.7mm machine gun from Belgium’s FN. The ones for the MHA will have OFB-built 7.62mm LMGs. The naval PC (W-201) you’re reminiscing about is the Chantier Naval Couach-built FIC-1300 for the Sagar Prahari Bal. It too comes with an LMG-fit + hand-held 40mm AGLs from South Africa’s Milkor. Will send you the photo. It was taken during the commissioning ceremony of INS Satpura.Prasun K. Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17625525921341864605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-79316396207199905142011-11-18T03:20:20.116+05:302011-11-18T03:20:20.116+05:30To Anurag: Firstly, the BM-21 Grad’s range expansi...To Anurag: Firstly, the BM-21 Grad’s range expansion programme had nothing to do with the DRDO. Ut was a trilateral venture involving the MoD-owned Ordnance Factories Board (OGB), Rosoboronexport State Corp, and Israel Military Industries (IMI). While the Russians sold OFB the design of this new MBRL rocket, IMI supplied the high-energy propellants, which are also to be used for the Pinaka Mk2 rockets. For ballistic missiles, however, higher-energy propellants of greater sophistication are reqd, such as those for the Agni-4/5 and also for PDV missile interceptors. As for marine gas-turbines, the Kaveri-derived KMGT is under development, although its clearance for mass-production is still a few years away, maybe another five years. Regarding MINGS & FINGS, it was all explained at: http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2011/09/prahaar-nlos-bsm-explained.html<br />Furthermore, I had uploaded a poster explaining it further. This poster is at: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b39pial2XeQ/TnTOo_2YuLI/AAAAAAAAAUw/W7MBQP1Kx4g/s1600/RCI+Poster.jpg<br />For ballistic missiles, FINGS coupled to a GLONASS GPS receiver is used by the TEL for autonomous land navigation. The missile’s on-board inertial navigation system is the ring-laser-gyro-based inertial navigation system. For terminal guidance of the warhead/s, one requires a scene correlation matching system using the SCAN algorithm (which is made use of by the missile’s on-board SGH synthetic aperture radar) similar to the one employed by the BrahMos multi-role cruise missile (MRCM). And it is this technology that is being sought by the DRDO from Russia (and that’s why Dr Avinash Chander was in Russia last October. Only if this is available from Russia will one be able to achieve CEPs similar to what was achieved by the US Pershing-2 IRBM. <br /><br />To Anon@4.57PM: That’s the glide-bomb which is being developed by the ARDE. It will make use of FINGS for tactical navigation. <br /><br />To Anon@5.40PM: How can this solution go on board a single-engined aircraft like the JF-17? Two such turbofans power the Hongdu L-15 lead-in fighter trainer.Prasun K. Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17625525921341864605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-40800830591132391332011-11-18T01:51:39.644+05:302011-11-18T01:51:39.644+05:30Prasun,
Let me ask you this - what will be the ar...Prasun,<br /><br />Let me ask you this - what will be the armament and sensor fit for the 17 patrol boats being ordered by the army and the 50 for the MHA ?<br /><br />Some issues ago, Force had a single photo of some sailors on a patrol boat with a single 12.7mm forward and two LMGs. They wore normal naval uniforms and the boat had the pennant number W 201 I think.sbmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13090918961831389673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-58968685988133777402011-11-18T00:42:43.362+05:302011-11-18T00:42:43.362+05:30for anon at 11.26pm....
by that way we should fir...for anon at 11.26pm....<br /><br />by that way we should first invent fire...then wheel and then go to other inventions.<br /><br />man what we require is what technology which is not avaialble open, not to develop paper clips, pencil tips etc. Also what is very costly can be brought to terms is acceptable.<br /><br /><br />are we capable of high end manufacturing? I dont know!... but that should be our aim...not to recreate the cycle balls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-17992542669203039252011-11-17T23:50:59.466+05:302011-11-17T23:50:59.466+05:30do we manufacture bullets of our guns or they too ...do we manufacture bullets of our guns or they too are imported????????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-37769991985463547462011-11-17T23:26:09.967+05:302011-11-17T23:26:09.967+05:30"The organisation has been consistently makin..."The organisation has been consistently making efforts at innovation and creating an Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) culture as an integral part of research and development, which resulted in an IPR portfolio of about 1400 patents, copyrights, designs and trademarks."<br /><br />WHERE ARE THE RESULTS????????????????<br />FIRST MAKE A DECENT RIFLE OR IFV OR NIGHT VISION THERMAL EQUIPMENTS OR SPARES FOR OUR IMPORTED STUFF ... I THINK THESE DONT COME UNDER SATE-OF-THE-ART CATEGORY.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-15004214710302244422011-11-17T23:20:56.531+05:302011-11-17T23:20:56.531+05:30Here's something we dont get see often...
http...Here's something we dont get see often...<br />http://idrw.org/?p=5260<br /><br />"The winner was adjudged on the basis of size of patent portfolio, success rate, extent of globalization and influence of innovation as the analytical parameters." From article<br /><br />SAY WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-89191366855221444902011-11-17T23:16:13.779+05:302011-11-17T23:16:13.779+05:30Hi Prasun you replied to me once that Type 052C de...Hi Prasun you replied to me once that Type 052C destroyer of chini were less advanced than Kolkata DDG as they have PESA .<br /> Type 348 is reportedly an AESA radar. Is it true???<br /><br /> Also its ASM C602 has over 400Kms range and HQ-9 SAM has 200Kms range ....... and most importantly 2 of them are operational ..... <br />and it looks quite stealthy<br />http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/Fleet_Hangchow_Bay_Bridge-1-.jpg/1024px-Fleet_Hangchow_Bay_Bridge-1-.jpg<br /><br />when can expect P 15 s to be operational????????<br /><br />Can Brahmos onboard ships be used for both Ship ans land attack???Shreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-46122206038939173652011-11-17T22:43:35.610+05:302011-11-17T22:43:35.610+05:30http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/7/ins...http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/7/inside-the-ring-605847932/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-8956642825189126612011-11-17T22:35:51.694+05:302011-11-17T22:35:51.694+05:30Pershing-II is said to be having a CEP of 30 Meter...Pershing-II is said to be having a CEP of 30 Meters. Can Agni-IV be expected having similar CEP.Mr. Ra 13noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-68928047812893409632011-11-17T22:16:05.182+05:302011-11-17T22:16:05.182+05:30Prasun,
You have stated that Skyranger is bette...Prasun,<br /> You have stated that Skyranger is better than Pantsir system. Can you elaborate. Pantsir has both Guns and Missiles so is it a Jack-of-all-trades but expert in neither ? Skyranger has a bigger better gun which is given but no missiles. So will Skyranger be able to intercept multiple targets at the same time ? For that matter can Pantsir engage multiple targets due to its Gun/missile combo ?<br /> Can US Phalnax C-RAM be used for the same role ? Can any of the above systems be used for both C-RAM and Anti-air role.SKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-29004620038951265572011-11-17T17:40:09.095+05:302011-11-17T17:40:09.095+05:30In the following article there is a mention of alt...In the following article there is a mention of alternative engine for JF-17. <br /><a href="http://indian-defense-news.blogspot.com/2011/11/ukrainian-ai-222-25f-turbofan-engine.html" rel="nofollow">JF-17 ENGINE</a><br /><br />What is your opinion about the engine and would it make a material difference to the JF-17 aircraft.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-72611321299971117532011-11-17T16:57:13.528+05:302011-11-17T16:57:13.528+05:30Is the DRDO developing any standoff PGM such as wi...Is the DRDO developing any standoff PGM such as wing fitted , rocket boosted INS/GPS guided bomb such as Sagem AASM? What about the tender IAF has issued for purchasing standoff weapons?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-36550773686948771592011-11-17T13:12:47.338+05:302011-11-17T13:12:47.338+05:30eanwhile, during a press conference on the success...eanwhile, during a press conference on the successful test-firing of the Agni-4 missile, DRDO Chief V K Saraswat said the sub-sonic cruise missile Nirbhay will be test-fired in the early part of 2012.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-47545727941135363452011-11-17T08:45:09.009+05:302011-11-17T08:45:09.009+05:30To PKS,
DRDO had increased the range of BM 21Grad ...To PKS,<br />DRDO had increased the range of BM 21Grad rockets from 22 km to 40 km by using higher energy propelants.So can't they use the same propelants to increase the range of existing Pinaka MkI rockets from present 38 km to 60 km or so?Isn't it viable?<br />Any idea if DRDO is developing something similar to LM 2500 gas turbine engines or not?<br />And what are the MINGS and FINGS navigational systems used onboard Agni 4?How do they work?What's their components?<br />And lastly,how much these MINGS and FINGS improve accuracy and what's the possible CEP of the Agni IV?<br />Please throw some info.<br />Thnx.Anuragnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3545138702780178046.post-6017149330179395902011-11-17T06:47:32.886+05:302011-11-17T06:47:32.886+05:30Here’s Dr V K Saraswat going ‘retro’ again: “Asked...Here’s Dr V K Saraswat going ‘retro’ again: “Asked by Business Standard whether the Agni-4 was qualitatively in the class of Pakistan’s ballistic missiles (the Shaheen and the Ghauri), Saraswat responded, “Agni-4 compares with what is available (globally) in its class of missiles like the Pershing (US missile)… I am talking in terms of technology, not in terms of range, as Pershing missiles have a higher range… they meet global standards.” Saraswat may have mixed his facts, since Pershing II, the US ballistic missile he likened the Agni-4 to, is a decommissioned 1980s missile with a range of just 1,800 kilometres. But his claim, as evident from his other remarks, was that the Agni-4 met global benchmarks.”<br /><br />To Chintan: It's much much more than what's visible on the ground. The vast underground facilities equipped with nuclear powerplants and cooling towers are highly indicative of some kind of directed-energy weapons-related R & D activities taking place there. It is like the erstwhile USSR's Kapustin Yar facilities.Prasun K. Senguptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17625525921341864605noreply@blogger.com