Prasunda Thanks as usual & ofcourse your courtesy & knowledge as acknowledged by many ' Vidya Vinayam Dadati personified. विद्यां ददाति विनयं विनयाद् याति पात्रताम् । पात्रत्वात् धनमाप्नोति धनात् धर्मं ततः सुखम् ॥ I am sure your success & respect earned is from actually living this practically. Hope all Indians emaluate you. Thanks once again
"To ANIONE: VMT, but then the only answer to that is perhaps the decision-makers have their own list of priorities."
Sir, this says everything. Every time one will scratch the head wondering how difficult it is those decision-makers to just digest the gist what you are stating here. Maybe we are having some hopes from them and at the end disappointment.
Why the half-moon and the star just under Trtuk pin in 1st & 2nd slids?
Why is the cost of procurement of Su30MKI so high ? If we just want numbers, we should easily get double the numbers if we buy planes built at Irkut and western equipment fitted at a BRD of IAF.
I sincerely hope that Fraono and Siari are captured.I have read a lot about this area and I have pored over this area on Google Maps quite often.Chewang Rinchen and his men were supposed to mount an offensive to capture this area on 17 December,1971(according to French Historian Claude Arpi)but unfortunately,the Pakistanis surrendered before that.Hopefully,the IA will not only capture Fraono and Siari but go further along the Turtuk-Khaplu road upto Hassanabad Chorbat or Marcha and take control of the entire Chorbat Valley.And Olthingthang is close to Kargil and it's capture won't increase the distance between Kargil and the LoC by much so hopefully,the IA will go a bit further up the Kargil-Skardu Road till Hamzigond(where the red pin is located) https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hamzigond/@34.7614816,75.9360217,10z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x38e346d78a391445:0x4ee6e8a9c403da49!8m2!3d34.8143529!4d76.1942882
I wanted to post some information about this area and I also have one small doubt.I will post the info first.Fraono/Siari are located North West of Turtuk and Thang.The area west of Turtuk is also under Pakistani control.But on the LoC that is west of Turtuk,there is point 5310 that we captured in 2000.I remember reading an article from Lt. General Panag about the operation to capture Point 5310.Here it is. https://www.newslaundry.com/2016/09/14/the-lost-operation-against-pakistan-in-chorbat-la
One important excerpt from this article "the LOC ran along the base of the ‘U’ for six kilometres before turning north towards the Pakistani side for two kilometres. The area of the ‘U’ was known as Karubar Bowl (a nullah is known as a ‘bar’ in this area and a ‘bowl’ is the military term for a small valley) and a road from its northern end connected it to Siari on the Shyok River, opening an avenue to cut off Pakistani defences opposite the Turtok Sector. The feasible approach for us was over a glacier at the southern end of Karubar Bowl, but it involved a movement of two kilometres through Pakistani territory. Whoever controlled Pt 5310 also controlled the 12 square kilometres of Karubar Bowl – which meant that if we secured Pt 5310, we would also ‘tactically’ control 12 square kilometres of Pakistani territory. Domination of this area also threatened the Pakistani posts opposite Turtok Sector from the rear." And we did go on to capture Point 5310.So this does give us a tactical advantage over Pakistani territory in the Karubar Bowl west of Turtuk/Point 5310 as well which is good to know.
And now the doubt.There is a village called Dalunang that is located North of Kakshar and is the first village of Gilgit-Baltistan in that sector.Was Dalunang in Indian controlled territory before 1999?I have seen some maps in which Dalunang fell in the Indian side of the LoC so I had this small doubt.
My gratefulness for all that you do for the country. It is a shame that sane thoughts having expiry dates are not acted upon in timely manner with the same zeal as self-marketing across the board; each one has their arses to take care of. Nevertheless, heroes are still there to take care of the situation however grave with their lives; alas there are still following the tradition of martyrdom rather than leading a successful life, leading by example . Personally, want the country to unite and handle the situation.
I wonder why retired generals behave enlightened compared to when they were in service. I don't buy the crap that service rules impede them and similarly serving generals are not idiots as it is portrayed. Anyways getting back to the ask; how realistic is the military inclination to do the needful and definitely will not ask whether political will is there; it is definitely not except for showmanship. Thanks, Ganesh
What are the chances the BJP government will listen to your suggestions of taking the fight to the Chinese and capturing some of their terroritory and then swapping what they have taken from us?
If we don't do it now when do you think we will be able to? or will we accept the status quo?
Sir, thanks for all information u provide by threads and questions and answers. I have 2 out of d context questions- 1)why are we not equipping all present n future MiG 29 upg A/c with AESA radar & MAWS?? 2) Additional 12 su30mki will be of super Sukhoi 30 standard or already in production su30 standard??
China Rattles Myanmar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f50Gu8wxIfM&t=34s
Now will be a good time for Myanmar to sell off its FC-1 MRCAs to Nigeria & negin negotiations for procuring 12 FOC-standard Tejas Mk.1s armed with RAFAEL’s Gabriel-5 anti-ship cruise missile. Since Myanmar has full diplomatic relations with Israel, it will welcome Israeli material content on the Tejas Mk.1.
To DASHU: In many ways today’s netas as well as those in the past have suffered from the same weaknesses as displayed by Prithviraj Chauhan, i.e. get swayed into the comfort zone with duplicitous niceties & with the p;assage of time, get attacked & overwhelmed with deceit & deception. It happened with A B Vajpayee in February & May 1999 & with NaMo first in September 2014, then in April 2018 at Wuhan & 60 days ago. In fact, a PLAGF mobilisation of this size isn’t possible without a minimum of 1 year’s planning effort, especially if one wants to present a fait accompli to India by unilaterally abrogating all the CBM agreements entered into by both countries in 1993, 1996, 2005 & 2013. And if a fait accompli is not quickly resisted or reversed, it becomes more difficult to do so over time as the aggressor consolidates and fortifies its position, establishing a new normal. Of 59 land grabs around the world where the aggressor held territory at the end of a militarised international dispute, there have been 47 where the aggressor held that territory uninterrupted for the next 10 years. Those are enviable odds for China’s ability to retain its new real estate in Ladakh. So what were India’s options:
The best one was to do a swift counter-occupation within six hours of the first PLAGF occupation in Ladakh. Obviously this did not happen & this then brought us to the 2nd option, which was to do a mirror deployment & initiate politico-military dialogues with the adversary for disengagement & de-escalation. But since China knew that India was expecting something like a prolonged faceoff without any direct confrontation or skirmish like OP Parakram in 2002, it decided to keep India engaged in lengthy negotiations that will last till this November. That’s why China’s Foreign Ministry yesterday stressed on the need to lower the temperatures along the LAC, and not eliminate the temperatures altogether, meaning disengagement yes, but no de-escalation. Here, the aim is to drag matters on till November, following which China will probably decide to get away from the Galwan River Valley & Gogra/Hot Springs areas, but in return win the right to stay where it is today at Panggong Tso & Depsang Bulge. Despite this, NaMo decided to give a face-saver on June 20 to Beijing by stating that the PLAGF had not physically occupied any territory under India’s control. But what NaMo received was a further snub through the PLA drawing a massive map of China at Panggong Tso (visible to every overhead recce satellite) showing its new borders & calling it CHING-KUO (in Mandarin it means not China, but the Middle Kingdom). Despite this, it took a full 7 days for NaMo to cancel his Weibo account. So now, on the 61st day of the faceoffs, there are only 2 options left: 1) Continue negotiations but undertake a horizontal escalation through vertical envelopment by capturing select areas of Baltistan while declaring that the conquest of Gilgit is only a matter of time. 2) Continue negotiations but undertake a horizontal escalation by occupying some China-controlled area anywhere along the LAC by this November (like Jelep la or Longju, over which India had physical occupation till 1965 & 1959, respectively.
The moon/star icon denotes the presence of a mosque. Now meet the Ladakhi Shias who are serving with Ladakh Scouts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZwMK1ltvQk&t=4s
To ANKIT KUMAR: had already explained it several times before, i.e. the flyaway cost of the aircraft has to include costs incurred by the manufacturer of importing raw materials, turbofans & avionics, and the cost of setting up the entire airframe construction facility & final-assembly line, i.e. 2.5 times more than the cost of importing the aircraft from the foreign OEM.
To ARUN: All the information that you seek is mentioned in scanned pages that were uploaded here:
This is Fraono: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p8AlA-Hots&t=167s
And this is Thang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vJCZSvx2Rg&t=62s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yl2ERUktUI
To VENKY: That’s like Hyundai taking over the production of Suzuki Swifts from Maruti-Suzuki. And aren’’t TATA & Kalyani also affected by the lockdowns? So how can they outperform OFB?
To PARTHASARATHI: Barak-8 MR-SAM for the IAF.
To ROHIT: On the 61st day of the faceoffs, there are only 2 options left: 1) Continue negotiations but undertake a horizontal escalation through vertical envelopment by capturing select areas of Baltistan while declaring that the conquest of Gilgit is only a matter of time. 2) Continue negotiations but undertake a horizontal escalation by occupying some China-controlled area anywhere along the LAC by this November (like Jelep la or Longju, over which India had physical occupation till 1965 & 1959, respectively.
To ASHISH GAUTAM: 1) They will be, after 10 years. Afterall, they were only recently upgraded to MiG-29UPG standard. 2) Standard Su-30MKI, and NOT Super Su-30MKI.
- the articles above speak of the constellation providing PNT services. do they mean GNSS capability like NAVIC? is it possible via such small platforms and if yes, with the same accuracy?
- is it the right call by Bharti? could they not have done this in-country?
- where do u c the usa, politically, 10-15 years from now? whole lot of craziness going on there
Gen. Panag in his latest article assesses that if we continue to stay firm having contained the intrusions to where they currently are, without caving in and going for a Wuhan like summit, even without our initiating any military action, China is likely to initiate military action to attempt to capture DBO, more areas around Pangong Tso, all of Galwan valley etc. He concludes his assessment stating that by June end, PLA has lost the element of surprise, that such scenarios have been wargamed by our armed forces repeatedly, and that PLA would come to grief if it makes such an attempt. Do'nt you think what he says is reasonable ?
Gone through the article you shared few days back on Ukrainian Powerplant manufacturer Motor Sich acquisition attempt by Chinese Firm.
1. Should India try to acquire Motor Sich?
2. Regarding Manik Turbofan for Nirbhay, has GTRE been able to make any headway? I have noticed quite a few reports by know-it-all desi journos claiming Manik is ready.
3. What is the current status of HAL endeavors of HTFE25, HTSE1200?
a. you replied to DASHU 'In fact, a PLAGF mobilisation of this size isn’t possible without a minimum of 1 year’s planning effort, especially if one wants to present a fait accompli to India by unilaterally abrogating all the CBM agreements entered into by both countries in 1993, 1996, 2005 & 2013. And if a fait accompli is not quickly resisted or reversed'
b. It means China was preparing for this for past 1 year but when i asked similar question in last thread regarding something happening by July 15 you said 'Will any army preparing to go into battle concentrate all its forces out in the open in full view of everyone to see?'
c. this basically means we failed to anticipate it and China will make its land grabs permanent and further push into Ladakh before the terrain becomes inhospitable as winter sets in
d. the PMs Leh visit was a huge signal that something is up in next few days as military talks are bound to fail
e. i just hope better sense prevails with IAF and it goes for the remaining 13 out of unused 34 Mig 29s asap along with 8 more kits to complete another squadron
f. i still feel IA does have need for the 6 barrel version of Smerch which is not only road & air mobile but can reach to higher altitude than the original Smerch
Sir, Pawan sawhney does it again https://youtu.be/f_hFZE4su-c
Lets keep him aside after all he is also man with his own agenda. My question is what kind of scope indian and global market has for small arms manufacturing? What are specialised small arms required by special forces that has good upgrade potential? I see infantry soldiers as weapon platform the way aircraft are. What can be done to upgrade their lethality and survivability?
I'm asking you a query out of curiosity. How do you rate the questions asked by layman to you about national security? I'm afraid whether any GoI representative is reading your blog. Have they done it, the so called rarest of rarest property i.e. commonsense they could have reaped by reading this blog.
I believe, Pravin Sawhney is exactly right & forget Kargil, if accurate by more than 50% India should be grateful that it's not another 1962. India needs territory now, if not on LAC, then on the LOC. Morale aside, India as usual not ready, needs to improvise & be daring. After all the PM has said to the forces VEER BHOGYA VASUNDHARA & India has to negotiate with both from a position of strength not weakness https://youtu.be/f_hFZE4su-c
Even tiny state Bhutan chose to protest chinese land grab. US carriers moving south china sea.. China threatening Australia... Can a global alliance take place and global financial sanction to china to break its economic hegemony to reduce its military capacity so that China mends its behaviour. Where will Russia fit into the equation...
Can china effort to antagonise every one surrounding...And what's the situation of Covid 19 in China... Donald Trump seems to be defeated in the coming election ..Will Mr Bieden take on china more effectively... Why islamic terror group has not yet created havoc inspite of muslim oppression in China...
To SATYAKI: He's saying the very same that I had outlined/detailed earlier. I can also state that in the opening round of hostilities along the LAC, the first ones to be hit will be the G-219 Highway & its 6 arterial roads that provide logistics support to the now-entrenched PLAGF forces because these forces are nowhere near their hinterlands & hence, unless supplied from the ground or by paradrops (especially perishables), they will starve to death. Hence, terrain favours any tactical offensives by the IA anywhere along the LAC, but such offensives must aim at causing maximum attrition damage to the entrenched PLAGF formations & this can be quickly delivered only by IAF offensive airpower. But at the same time, the IAF will have to maintain total air supremacy over northeastern Ladakh since the PLAAF's strike aircraft will all be coming northwards from Xinjiang & hence the deployment of Barak-8s with the ability to give coverage even over Gilgit-Baltistan becomes very important. Hence, my first preference will be to secure the areas of Oltinthang & Siari/Fraono so as to be able to control a greater volume of airspace north of the LoC & to the northeast of the LAC. And since the PLAAF's bombers & MRCAs do not have terrain-avoidance capability, they will never be able to make use of terrain-masking flight-profiles.
Sir 1. With regarding to the iaf 114 aircraft requirement do you think the order will be split between Rafale and F 18? 2. In one of your previous replies that stated that India will end up buying more than 21 mig29 upg? Would it be procured in tranches? 3. As per the articles you have posted it is high possibility that china will initiate a limited war along ladakh, is that why more build up of troops is being done?
You had implied that after the US sponsored Tibet independence law the India China border dispute will cease to exist. The only likely option for that to happen is to militarily implement it. If US does so does that mean setting up standard military bases in Tibet and land access through India?
Prasunda, At first thanking you for answering my query. is it possible to install Derby's seeker with Meteor's propulsion. ? If it's possible then it can be integrated at Tejas. Best regards
To BHOUTIK: PNT services of a commercial nature by OneWeb cannot be compared to those of NAVIC since the latter has strategic & military usage, while the former does not. Secondly, NAVIC is a regional sarellite constellation, whereas OneWeb is global in terms of coverage. Lastly, such innovations can’t take place in-country due to regressive mindsets. After all, something similar was being attempted by DEVAS MULTIMEDIA & everyone knows how the then ‘desi patrakaars’ led by the TIMES NOW Group had crusaded against such revolutionary business-models & helped shot down such innovative attempts.
To AD: 1) And what will India do after acquiring such a company? Are there any Indian aircraft airframe developers that can develop aircraft designed for using engines developed by Motor-Sich? 2) Call it MANIK or LAGHU SHAKTI, such turbofans have yet to surface as functional turbofans. 3) Those engines have not even established their half-lives, leave alone their full total-technical service-life. Absolutely pathetic performance-levels of both GTRE & HAL. They both should have accepted defeat long ago & surrendered to the likes of Larsen & Toubro or Kalyani Group. This is what one gets when one appoints mediocre persons to the posts of Chief Scientific Adviser to the Govt of India & Chief Scientific Adviser to the Ministry of Defence.
To JOYDEEP GHOSH: B) That’s exactly what it means. What it also means is that it wants India to fire the first shot against the deployed PLAGF forces so that China can then label India as the aggressor. That’s why all the deployed forces there are not state-of-the-art weapons (which are deployed firther to the rear), but of 1980s vintage so that if they are destroyed by the IA, their losses won’t hurt the PLAGF’s ORBAT. C) Of course, it was an intelligence failure because the NTRO & the IAF does not possess ISR assets reqd for mounting PERSISTANT SURVEILLANCE. How can just 2 Bombardier 5000s fitted with SAR sensors maintain 24/7 surveillance along both the LoC & LAC? A minimum of 8 such platforms are reqd for constant ISR surveillance. D) August 5 will probably be the D-DAY. F) You are suggested that the feet be adapted to the shoe & not the other-way-around. What one needs are good MLC-70-standard roads & railway networks.
To VINEET KUMAR: It is too late for any India-based company to enter the global export market for small-arms of any type. The F-INSAS system for the standard infantry soldier needs to be inducted into service. Everyone seems to have forgotten about it.
To ASD: The layman will always ask the kind of questions derived from his knowledge & understanding of contemporary realities. This blog therefore seeks to widen one’s horizons so that enlightened discourses can take place.
To SENTHIL KUMAR: A church’s conversion into a mosque cannot be equated with the physical destruction of any place of worship. If Turkey goes ahead, then the Orthodox Christians will be the first ones to rise against Turkey.
To BENO: 1) No. Now that the Tejas Mk.1A will have aerial refuelling capability, there won’t be the need for importing 114 MRCAs. Which is just fine, as it will then release money for procuring more Rafale M-MRCAs. That’s why it can be reasonably concluded that the IAF will order more than 83 Tejas Mk.1As, probably up to 130. 2) Yes. 3) The PLAGF won’t be the first to initiate military hostilities, rest assured. The entire PLAGF gameplan rests on the premise that India will be the first to open fire.
To SANGOS: I had never implied that. As explained in previous threads, the Tibetans themselves today are resentful against the CIA for leaving them high-n-dry.
To PARTHASARATHI: Derby’s seeker & Meteor’s propulsion onside which missile airframe? Even South Korea is imported technologies off-the-shelf from the US for its KFX project. So how can South Korea supply anything to India?
To KAUSTAV & BUDDHA: Events are now moving at a pace never witnessed before in the subcontinent, & these are also increasing my daily ISR taskings:
Japan To Share Military Intelligence With India:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLVIJlsy1x4
Japan has the world’s best EW threat library on all kinds of China-origin electromagnetic emissions & this definitely will come in handy for India & even Vietnam.
And as expected, the US Navy begins indirectly choking China’s SLOCs through naval exercises in the South China Sea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMdvl5rgXyI
A similar exercise led by INS VIkramaditya should be conducted in the Andaman Sea along with the navies of Myanmar, Japan & Australia.
When the US Secretary of State was talking about forces redeployments involving the USMC expeditionary forces, he was referring to the contingency plan for deploying such a force inside Bhutan in case of any PLA invasion of Bhutanese territory. So, if the USMC V-022 Ospreys are deployed in northeast India in both Assam & Arunachal Pradesh’s ALGs, this then will free the IAF’s Mi-17s for being concentrated in the western & central sectors of the LAC.
India Bans China Apps, Hurting Tibetan Refugees in India:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82o1CMEPuUU
This should have been done 8 years ago after this incident:
China’s Ministry for State Security has been using such Apps to secretly communicate with its UGWs & OGWs alike throughout all the Buddhist monasteries located in Ladakh, Himachal Pradesh & Sikkim where the Tibetan Lama clergy is dominant.
IAF increases its airspace familiarisation activities throughout Ladakh & northern J & K UT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr9aWG2KsFM
And that’s because Pakistan has literally walked into a trap by eulogizing OBL as a martyr & putting all its eggs into China’s basket when in 2016 it had openly declared that China’s enemy is also Pakistan’s enemy. Now the world wants retribution:
And the final icing on the cake: Pakistani Generals call Kashmiris ‘Traitors’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qIru5RZzLI&t=21s
The time now is indeed ripe for commencing the conquest of Gilgit-Baltistan through salami-slicing tactics over a 1-year period, starting with the capture of Oltinthang-Siari-Fraono area & forcing the eviction of the PA’s 323 Brigade from the Dansum-Goma-Gyari area.
If you are comfortable with it I would like to request you to do a piece on the present Economy of Pakistan, the challenges its facing in short term, medium term and long term. And what are the ways by which we can exploit those issues to our benefit. Maybe also add a paragraph on economies of Sri Lanka, Nepal and Bangladesh and how can we influence them.
It's then time to liberate the Trans Himalayan range (Karakoram to Kailas) from the control of PRC & Pak to restore India's natural frontiers, secure our water sources from Ganges(Ngari), Indus, Brahmaputra (Kailas - Mansarovar) & gain access to the Wakhan for North South corridor & connectivity to Russia & CARs. I look forward to the restoration of natural borders as defined by the title & ownership of the erstwhile princely state of Kashmir. Both India & PRC have been at this game for a year. Now with the US led coalition & Japan getting openly into the game with Intel & logistical & military support a Free Tibet, Eastern Turkestan & breakup of PRC might be on the cards.
A small heads up on the Trans Karokaram for other readers on this forum https://youtu.be/geZqiHq6pqA
Hope I m not too optimistically cuckoo 😜 Prasunda What say?
From the above discussion and article's it is quite evident that another Wuhan is not a possibility but a military option will be exercised because not doing anything or behaving like a subsurvient nation will cost us dearly in the long run.
* Lanka seems to have signed SOFA. I remember u mentioned some time back that stationing of Americans there would not be in India's interest.
http://www.asiantribune.com/node/94361
* the Hypersonic and ballistic tracking space sensors program seems interesting & moving fast. any desi plans along similar lines? i have a feeling i know the answer but humor me please.
* given the nature of china & russian realism, surprised that lavrov said what he said in raisina & now ryabkov saying china should be in G7. what explains this?
Heard an Australian podcost few days ago where a scholar called India a Chinese data colony and one that is enveloped by China. According to him it will be near impossible to get out of Chinese trap carefully set over the years.
Today Nirupama Rao in her twitter handle talked of diplomatic and political solution.
Thanks for the new post again want to ask you some thing off topic a bit TV9 has reported Israel strikes on Iran nuclear enrichment facilities and missile factory and Iran has promised counter strikes 1st Question Does Iran possess such capability or in process of acquiring them? 2nd Question Israel said to have used F-35 does this prove that F-35 are able to supress or fool the air surveillance capabilities of Iran which is mix of Soviet, Chinese and Iranian components? 3rd Question What will be the next course of this action mean in context with Pakistan? Thanks in advance
1. are you trying to imply that #hh Karmapa Lama was planted by China
2. if you remember few days back in last thread i had said India needs to take back PoK/GB by 2021 and finish off LoC and then shift focus on LAC and taking back CoK by 2025, seems this is what will happen eventually by your assessment that you have done till now
3. you said Tejas mk 1A will have air refuelling but where are the refullers to supply so many jets??
4. you talked only about 2 Bombarier jets wt about the 2 Netra AEWC or Phalcon AEWC couldnt these be used to keep eye across LAC / LoC btw when are the 2 Phalcon AEWC coming to India
5. Cant the Akash missiles by deployed n Andaman??
If China is careful not to start the first strike, then India should go ahead to capture Gilgit & Baltistan at the correct moment. After all and anyhow it is going to be a two-front war. Fortunately or unfortunately India can not escape from this destiny. "Correct moment" mostly is the Keyword when the oceans are hot or boiling.
To ANKIT KUMAR: VMT, but I’m hard-pressed for time, given the rising number of daily ISR taskings.
To KAUSTAV: And here’s what Nostradamus had predicted for the year 2020:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcuUHFx64DQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KatpaWS3rEY
To ROHIT GILL: Exactly, but the military option has to be exercise in a cold-blooded manner with a cool mind & this calls for patience. After all, the campaign season for that whole area is till this November.
To SRINIVASA NANDURI: Instead of alarmist futurology, here are some rational assessments:
Of course the solution will be negotiated by politicians & diplomats, but to bring the adversary to the negotiating table as the junior of the two parties, the military tools/options have first to be used/exercised at a time & place of India’s choosing.
To THE RAT: Yes, that idiotic TV channel broadcast that FAKE NEWS & I wonder what’s in store for today or tomorrow: Osama Bin Laden & his band of Mujahids spotted in the Depsang Plains???
To ASD: Exactly how many times have you asked this question & how many times more will you ask it in future?
To JOYDEEP GHOSH: 1) If not planted, then definitely influenced. 2) Watch these videoclips for future developments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcuUHFx64DQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KatpaWS3rEY
3) Aerial refuelling in India’s case is not generally done during operational sorties, but when the combat aircraft squadrons are being ferried from their home bases to forward air bases. Only select long-distance deep-interdiction sorties (perhaps 1 out of every 100 sorties) will require aerial refuelling support. Ideally, the IAF ought to possess 24 MRTTs. 4) The IAF’s AEW & CS platforms are for airborne battle management & not for ground/battlefield surveillance, for which the 2 Bombardier 5000s have belly-mounted SAR sensors. So don’t equate AEW & CS platforms with ISR platforms. 6) Any SAM system can be deployed anywhere, provided there’s adequate transportation support available by land, sea & air.
1. Does these kind of reservations works? 2. Dushyant chautala in interviews claim 11 other states have them, but are these ever implemented or enforced or just for public optics? 3. If yes, then how come companies not object to these gimmicks?
1-Russians now playing both sides? .. https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2020/07/09/russia-confirms-progress-on-new-jet-engine-is-it-for-pak-jf-17-fighter.html.. is this to placate the chinese for selling weapons to indians? 2-UN raising kashimir again, chinese move as retaliation on ladakh-is the UN also taken over like WHO ?.. India should retaliate in strongest terms on its inaction on freeing GB & PoK & terrorism emanating from pakistan http://idrw.org/un-makes-its-third-communication-on-jammu-and-kashmir-public/ ...they dont speak on terrorists 3-whats stopping India to formally endorse Quad 4- oli hanging in ..How is china blatantly playing in nepal and India is not reacting/can;t react to pressure them . What is stopping us from propping up prachanda guy or any body else..is prachanda also bought out or he simply does not have enough support base..who is an alternative for india. 5- Joe Biden ahead of trump according to surveys .. given his utterances on kashmir as also the democrats stance, should India be wary of his election? 6- Dams plans in GB.. you had mentioned that the locals in GB will react to the dam plans by the paki-Chinese there.Are they in enough numbers given all the demographic changes the pakis have done since 47..also do they have the strength(financial & manpower) to fight them off .. the pak army will intervene & finish them off or will let loose the terrorists
Prasunda
ReplyDeleteThanks as usual & ofcourse your courtesy & knowledge as acknowledged by many ' Vidya Vinayam Dadati personified. विद्यां ददाति विनयं विनयाद् याति पात्रताम् ।
पात्रत्वात् धनमाप्नोति धनात् धर्मं ततः सुखम् ॥ I am sure your success & respect earned is from actually living this practically. Hope all Indians emaluate you. Thanks once again
"To ANIONE: VMT, but then the only answer to that is perhaps the decision-makers have their own list of priorities."
ReplyDeleteSir, this says everything.
Every time one will scratch the head wondering how difficult it is those decision-makers to just digest the gist what you are stating here. Maybe we are having some hopes from them and at the end disappointment.
Why the half-moon and the star just under Trtuk pin in 1st & 2nd slids?
Why is the cost of procurement of Su30MKI so high ? If we just want numbers, we should easily get double the numbers if we buy planes built at Irkut and western equipment fitted at a BRD of IAF.
ReplyDeleteI sincerely hope that Fraono and Siari are captured.I have read a lot about this area and I have pored over this area on Google Maps quite often.Chewang Rinchen and his men were supposed to mount an offensive to capture this area on 17 December,1971(according to French Historian Claude Arpi)but unfortunately,the Pakistanis surrendered before that.Hopefully,the IA will not only capture Fraono and Siari but go further along the Turtuk-Khaplu road upto Hassanabad Chorbat or Marcha and take control of the entire Chorbat Valley.And Olthingthang is close to Kargil and it's capture won't increase the distance between Kargil and the LoC by much so hopefully,the IA will go a bit further up the Kargil-Skardu Road till Hamzigond(where the red pin is located) https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hamzigond/@34.7614816,75.9360217,10z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x38e346d78a391445:0x4ee6e8a9c403da49!8m2!3d34.8143529!4d76.1942882
ReplyDeleteI wanted to post some information about this area and I also have one small doubt.I will post the info first.Fraono/Siari are located North West of Turtuk and Thang.The area west of Turtuk is also under Pakistani control.But on the LoC that is west of Turtuk,there is point 5310 that we captured in 2000.I remember reading an article from Lt. General Panag about the operation to capture Point 5310.Here it is. https://www.newslaundry.com/2016/09/14/the-lost-operation-against-pakistan-in-chorbat-la
One important excerpt from this article "the LOC ran along the base of the ‘U’ for six kilometres before turning north towards the Pakistani side for two kilometres. The area of the ‘U’ was known as Karubar Bowl (a nullah is known as a ‘bar’ in this area and a ‘bowl’ is the military term for a small valley) and a road from its northern end connected it to Siari on the Shyok River, opening an avenue to cut off Pakistani defences opposite the Turtok Sector. The feasible approach for us was over a glacier at the southern end of Karubar Bowl, but it involved a movement of two kilometres through Pakistani territory. Whoever controlled Pt 5310 also controlled the 12 square kilometres of Karubar Bowl – which meant that if we secured Pt 5310, we would also ‘tactically’ control 12 square kilometres of Pakistani territory. Domination of this area also threatened the Pakistani posts opposite Turtok Sector from the rear."
And we did go on to capture Point 5310.So this does give us a tactical advantage over Pakistani territory in the Karubar Bowl west of Turtuk/Point 5310 as well which is good to know.
And now the doubt.There is a village called Dalunang that is located North of Kakshar and is the first village of Gilgit-Baltistan in that sector.Was Dalunang in Indian controlled territory before 1999?I have seen some maps in which Dalunang fell in the Indian side of the LoC so I had this small doubt.
Hello Prasun,
ReplyDeleteMy gratefulness for all that you do for the country.
It is a shame that sane thoughts having expiry dates are not acted upon in timely manner with the same zeal as self-marketing across the board; each one has their arses to take care of. Nevertheless, heroes are still there to take care of the situation however grave with their lives; alas there are still following the tradition of martyrdom rather than leading a successful life, leading by example . Personally, want the country to unite and handle the situation.
I wonder why retired generals behave enlightened compared to when they were in service. I don't buy the crap that service rules impede them and similarly serving generals are not idiots as it is portrayed. Anyways getting back to the ask; how realistic is the military inclination to do the needful and definitely will not ask whether political will is there; it is definitely not except for showmanship.
Thanks, Ganesh
Seeing the global situation develop.
ReplyDeleteI think India should order 114 F-16. 36 Rafale .
There is no point in depending on HAL to deliver Tejas on time.
OFB reports the Dhanush is delayed.
Why can’t the manufacturing be split between Tata, Kalyani and OFB ? We need minimum 414.
Venky
Prasunda,
ReplyDeleteWhat is the new Israeli Air deference system India is going to procure for Ladakh ?
Best regards,
ReplyDeleteWhat are the chances the BJP government will listen to your suggestions of taking the fight to the Chinese and capturing some of their terroritory and then swapping what they have taken from us?
If we don't do it now when do you think we will be able to? or will we accept the status quo?
Rohit
Sir, thanks for all information u provide by threads and questions and answers. I have 2 out of d context questions-
ReplyDelete1)why are we not equipping all present n future MiG 29 upg A/c with AESA radar & MAWS??
2) Additional 12 su30mki will be of super Sukhoi 30 standard or already in production su30 standard??
To KAUSTAV & GANESH: VMT Indeed.
ReplyDeleteChina Rattles Myanmar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f50Gu8wxIfM&t=34s
Now will be a good time for Myanmar to sell off its FC-1 MRCAs to Nigeria & negin negotiations for procuring 12 FOC-standard Tejas Mk.1s armed with RAFAEL’s Gabriel-5 anti-ship cruise missile. Since Myanmar has full diplomatic relations with Israel, it will welcome Israeli material content on the Tejas Mk.1.
https://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/files/2020-05/China_Space_and_Counterspace_Activities.pdf
To DASHU: In many ways today’s netas as well as those in the past have suffered from the same weaknesses as displayed by Prithviraj Chauhan, i.e. get swayed into the comfort zone with duplicitous niceties & with the p;assage of time, get attacked & overwhelmed with deceit & deception. It happened with A B Vajpayee in February & May 1999 & with NaMo first in September 2014, then in April 2018 at Wuhan & 60 days ago. In fact, a PLAGF mobilisation of this size isn’t possible without a minimum of 1 year’s planning effort, especially if one wants to present a fait accompli to India by unilaterally abrogating all the CBM agreements entered into by both countries in 1993, 1996, 2005 & 2013. And if a fait accompli is not quickly resisted or reversed, it becomes more difficult to do so over time as the aggressor consolidates and fortifies its position, establishing a new normal. Of 59 land grabs around the world where the aggressor held territory at the end of a militarised international dispute, there have been 47 where the aggressor held that territory uninterrupted for the next 10 years. Those are enviable odds for China’s ability to retain its new real estate in Ladakh. So what were India’s options:
The best one was to do a swift counter-occupation within six hours of the first PLAGF occupation in Ladakh. Obviously this did not happen & this then brought us to the 2nd option, which was to do a mirror deployment & initiate politico-military dialogues with the adversary for disengagement & de-escalation. But since China knew that India was expecting something like a prolonged faceoff without any direct confrontation or skirmish like OP Parakram in 2002, it decided to keep India engaged in lengthy negotiations that will last till this November. That’s why China’s Foreign Ministry yesterday stressed on the need to lower the temperatures along the LAC, and not eliminate the temperatures altogether, meaning disengagement yes, but no de-escalation. Here, the aim is to drag matters on till November, following which China will probably decide to get away from the Galwan River Valley & Gogra/Hot Springs areas, but in return win the right to stay where it is today at Panggong Tso & Depsang Bulge. Despite this, NaMo decided to give a face-saver on June 20 to Beijing by stating that the PLAGF had not physically occupied any territory under India’s control. But what NaMo received was a further snub through the PLA drawing a massive map of China at Panggong Tso (visible to every overhead recce satellite) showing its new borders & calling it CHING-KUO (in Mandarin it means not China, but the Middle Kingdom). Despite this, it took a full 7 days for NaMo to cancel his Weibo account. So now, on the 61st day of the faceoffs, there are only 2 options left: 1) Continue negotiations but undertake a horizontal escalation through vertical envelopment by capturing select areas of Baltistan while declaring that the conquest of Gilgit is only a matter of time. 2) Continue negotiations but undertake a horizontal escalation by occupying some China-controlled area anywhere along the LAC by this November (like Jelep la or Longju, over which India had physical occupation till 1965 & 1959, respectively.
The moon/star icon denotes the presence of a mosque. Now meet the Ladakhi Shias who are serving with Ladakh Scouts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZwMK1ltvQk&t=4s
To ANKIT KUMAR: had already explained it several times before, i.e. the flyaway cost of the aircraft has to include costs incurred by the manufacturer of importing raw materials, turbofans & avionics, and the cost of setting up the entire airframe construction facility & final-assembly line, i.e. 2.5 times more than the cost of importing the aircraft from the foreign OEM.
ReplyDeleteTo ARUN: All the information that you seek is mentioned in scanned pages that were uploaded here:
https://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2020/03/revisiting-mountain-warfare-learning.html
This is Fraono: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p8AlA-Hots&t=167s
And this is Thang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vJCZSvx2Rg&t=62s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yl2ERUktUI
To VENKY: That’s like Hyundai taking over the production of Suzuki Swifts from Maruti-Suzuki. And aren’’t TATA & Kalyani also affected by the lockdowns? So how can they outperform OFB?
To PARTHASARATHI: Barak-8 MR-SAM for the IAF.
To ROHIT: On the 61st day of the faceoffs, there are only 2 options left: 1) Continue negotiations but undertake a horizontal escalation through vertical envelopment by capturing select areas of Baltistan while declaring that the conquest of Gilgit is only a matter of time. 2) Continue negotiations but undertake a horizontal escalation by occupying some China-controlled area anywhere along the LAC by this November (like Jelep la or Longju, over which India had physical occupation till 1965 & 1959, respectively.
To ASHISH GAUTAM: 1) They will be, after 10 years. Afterall, they were only recently upgraded to MiG-29UPG standard. 2) Standard Su-30MKI, and NOT Super Su-30MKI.
PLA's LAMVs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu-snCblCVk
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBDJY_Ku62A
WZ-10 Attack Helicopter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4obrSmyale4
PLZ-07 122mm Tracked SPH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OTGbMTm4sI
PTL-11 ICV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1to0bQStLc
PCL-181 MGS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNM_-o4Utcs
PLAGF IED-Defuzing Training: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUCmVBw08gg
PLARF BM Launch Drill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqIsaWlHUJM
Japan GSDF's Type 19 155mm 8 x 8 MGS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvsW5SUyGnE
https://techcrunch.com/2020/07/03/the-uk-government-to-acquire-satellite-company-oneweb-in-deal-funded-in-part-by-indias-bharti-global/
ReplyDeletehttps://spacenews.com/british-government-and-bharti-global-buy-oneweb-plan-1-billion-investment-to-revive-company/
- the articles above speak of the constellation providing PNT services. do they mean GNSS capability like NAVIC? is it possible via such small platforms and if yes, with the same accuracy?
- is it the right call by Bharti? could they not have done this in-country?
- where do u c the usa, politically, 10-15 years from now? whole lot of craziness going on there
Prasunda,
ReplyDeleteGen. Panag in his latest article assesses that if we continue to stay firm having contained the intrusions to where they currently are, without caving in and going for a Wuhan like summit, even without our initiating any military action, China is likely to initiate military action to attempt to capture DBO, more areas around Pangong Tso, all of Galwan valley etc. He concludes his assessment stating that by June end, PLA has lost the element of surprise, that such scenarios have been wargamed by our armed forces repeatedly, and that PLA would come to grief if it makes such an attempt. Do'nt you think what he says is reasonable ?
Satyaki
Dada,
ReplyDeleteGone through the article you shared few days back on Ukrainian Powerplant manufacturer Motor Sich acquisition attempt by Chinese Firm.
1. Should India try to acquire Motor Sich?
2. Regarding Manik Turbofan for Nirbhay, has GTRE been able to make any headway? I have noticed quite a few reports by know-it-all desi journos claiming Manik is ready.
3. What is the current status of HAL endeavors of HTFE25, HTSE1200?
@Prasun da
ReplyDeletea. you replied to DASHU 'In fact, a PLAGF mobilisation of this size isn’t possible without a minimum of 1 year’s planning effort, especially if one wants to present a fait accompli to India by unilaterally abrogating all the CBM agreements entered into by both countries in 1993, 1996, 2005 & 2013. And if a fait accompli is not quickly resisted or reversed'
b. It means China was preparing for this for past 1 year but when i asked similar question in last thread regarding something happening by July 15 you said 'Will any army preparing to go into battle concentrate all its forces out in the open in full view of everyone to see?'
c. this basically means we failed to anticipate it and China will make its land grabs permanent and further push into Ladakh before the terrain becomes inhospitable as winter sets in
d. the PMs Leh visit was a huge signal that something is up in next few days as military talks are bound to fail
e. i just hope better sense prevails with IAF and it goes for the remaining 13 out of unused 34 Mig 29s asap along with 8 more kits to complete another squadron
f. i still feel IA does have need for the 6 barrel version of Smerch which is not only road & air mobile but can reach to higher altitude than the original Smerch
thanks
Joydeep Ghosh
Sir,
ReplyDeletePawan sawhney does it again
https://youtu.be/f_hFZE4su-c
Lets keep him aside after all he is also man with his own agenda.
My question is what kind of scope indian and global market has for small arms manufacturing?
What are specialised small arms required by special forces that has good upgrade potential?
I see infantry soldiers as weapon platform the way aircraft are. What can be done to upgrade their lethality and survivability?
Dear Prasun,
ReplyDeleteI'm asking you a query out of curiosity. How do you rate the questions asked by layman to you about national security? I'm afraid whether any GoI representative is reading your blog. Have they done it, the so called rarest of rarest property i.e. commonsense they could have reaped by reading this blog.
Prasunda.
ReplyDeleteI believe, Pravin Sawhney is exactly right & forget Kargil, if accurate by more than 50% India should be grateful that it's not another 1962. India needs territory now, if not on LAC, then on the LOC. Morale aside, India as usual not ready, needs to improvise & be daring. After all the PM has said to the forces VEER BHOGYA VASUNDHARA & India has to negotiate with both from a position of strength not weakness
https://youtu.be/f_hFZE4su-c
Even tiny state Bhutan chose to protest chinese land grab.
ReplyDeleteUS carriers moving south china sea..
China threatening Australia...
Can a global alliance take place and global financial sanction to china to break its economic hegemony to reduce its military capacity so that China mends its behaviour.
Where will Russia fit into the equation...
Can china effort to antagonise every one surrounding...And what's the situation of Covid 19 in China...
Donald Trump seems to be defeated in the coming election ..Will Mr Bieden take on china more effectively...
Why islamic terror group has not yet created havoc inspite of muslim oppression in China...
https://warontherocks.com/2020/07/indias-pangong-pickle-new-delhis-options-after-its-clash-with-china/
ReplyDeletehttps://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-07-03/Will-new-border-clash-impact-China-India-70-year-relationship--RP2viXOxMY/index.html
https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/india-china-ladakh-border-tension-6488929/
https://theprint.in/opinion/why-pakistan-is-keeping-mum-about-india-china-lac-conflict/454034/
https://www.matrixmag.com/the-sino-indian-standoff/
https://theprint.in/opinion/indias-options-against-china-shrink-to-two-limited-war-or-another-wuhan/452796/
To SATYAKI: He's saying the very same that I had outlined/detailed earlier. I can also state that in the opening round of hostilities along the LAC, the first ones to be hit will be the G-219 Highway & its 6 arterial roads that provide logistics support to the now-entrenched PLAGF forces because these forces are nowhere near their hinterlands & hence, unless supplied from the ground or by paradrops (especially perishables), they will starve to death. Hence, terrain favours any tactical offensives by the IA anywhere along the LAC, but such offensives must aim at causing maximum attrition damage to the entrenched PLAGF formations & this can be quickly delivered only by IAF offensive airpower. But at the same time, the IAF will have to maintain total air supremacy over northeastern Ladakh since the PLAAF's strike aircraft will all be coming northwards from Xinjiang & hence the deployment of Barak-8s with the ability to give coverage even over Gilgit-Baltistan becomes very important. Hence, my first preference will be to secure the areas of Oltinthang & Siari/Fraono so as to be able to control a greater volume of airspace north of the LoC & to the northeast of the LAC. And since the PLAAF's bombers & MRCAs do not have terrain-avoidance capability, they will never be able to make use of terrain-masking flight-profiles.
Dear Prasun,
ReplyDeleteWill Turkey Convert Hagia Sophia into Mosque
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gNe_876ZfI
1. What are the side effects in the above adventurism.
2. Will this incident gives Israel chance to demolish Al Aqsa Mosque and build Solomon Temple.
Please comment.
Thanks & Regards
Senthil Kumar
Sir
ReplyDelete1. With regarding to the iaf 114 aircraft requirement do you think the order will be split between Rafale and F 18?
2. In one of your previous replies that stated that India will end up buying more than 21 mig29 upg? Would it be procured in tranches?
3. As per the articles you have posted it is high possibility that china will initiate a limited war along ladakh, is that why more build up of troops is being done?
You had implied that after the US sponsored Tibet independence law the India China border dispute will cease to exist. The only likely option for that to happen is to militarily implement it. If US does so does that mean setting up standard military bases in Tibet and land access through India?
ReplyDeletePrasunda,
ReplyDeleteAt first thanking you for answering my query. is it possible to install Derby's seeker with Meteor's propulsion. ?
If it's possible then it can be integrated at Tejas.
Best regards
Prasunda,
ReplyDeleteIs there any way HAL can get some technology from Korea.
https://www.defenseworld.net/news/27177/Final_Assembly_of_S_Korea___s_KF_X_Jet_by_Yearend
Indonesia is going to get one prototype and technology once the trail is over.
First prototype is going to fly by this year end.
When everyone is going for stealth technology ( even Indonesia) , we are going for TEDBF. That is also first flight will be after six years.
We must go with Korea. And become partner with KFX development.
Best regards,
To BHOUTIK: PNT services of a commercial nature by OneWeb cannot be compared to those of NAVIC since the latter has strategic & military usage, while the former does not. Secondly, NAVIC is a regional sarellite constellation, whereas OneWeb is global in terms of coverage. Lastly, such innovations can’t take place in-country due to regressive mindsets. After all, something similar was being attempted by DEVAS MULTIMEDIA & everyone knows how the then ‘desi patrakaars’ led by the TIMES NOW Group had crusaded against such revolutionary business-models & helped shot down such innovative attempts.
ReplyDeleteTo AD: 1) And what will India do after acquiring such a company? Are there any Indian aircraft airframe developers that can develop aircraft designed for using engines developed by Motor-Sich? 2) Call it MANIK or LAGHU SHAKTI, such turbofans have yet to surface as functional turbofans. 3) Those engines have not even established their half-lives, leave alone their full total-technical service-life. Absolutely pathetic performance-levels of both GTRE & HAL. They both should have accepted defeat long ago & surrendered to the likes of Larsen & Toubro or Kalyani Group. This is what one gets when one appoints mediocre persons to the posts of Chief Scientific Adviser to the Govt of India & Chief Scientific Adviser to the Ministry of Defence.
To JOYDEEP GHOSH: B) That’s exactly what it means. What it also means is that it wants India to fire the first shot against the deployed PLAGF forces so that China can then label India as the aggressor. That’s why all the deployed forces there are not state-of-the-art weapons (which are deployed firther to the rear), but of 1980s vintage so that if they are destroyed by the IA, their losses won’t hurt the PLAGF’s ORBAT. C) Of course, it was an intelligence failure because the NTRO & the IAF does not possess ISR assets reqd for mounting PERSISTANT SURVEILLANCE. How can just 2 Bombardier 5000s fitted with SAR sensors maintain 24/7 surveillance along both the LoC & LAC? A minimum of 8 such platforms are reqd for constant ISR surveillance. D) August 5 will probably be the D-DAY. F) You are suggested that the feet be adapted to the shoe & not the other-way-around. What one needs are good MLC-70-standard roads & railway networks.
To VINEET KUMAR: It is too late for any India-based company to enter the global export market for small-arms of any type. The F-INSAS system for the standard infantry soldier needs to be inducted into service. Everyone seems to have forgotten about it.
To ASD: The layman will always ask the kind of questions derived from his knowledge & understanding of contemporary realities. This blog therefore seeks to widen one’s horizons so that enlightened discourses can take place.
To SENTHIL KUMAR: A church’s conversion into a mosque cannot be equated with the physical destruction of any place of worship. If Turkey goes ahead, then the Orthodox Christians will be the first ones to rise against Turkey.
To BENO: 1) No. Now that the Tejas Mk.1A will have aerial refuelling capability, there won’t be the need for importing 114 MRCAs. Which is just fine, as it will then release money for procuring more Rafale M-MRCAs. That’s why it can be reasonably concluded that the IAF will order more than 83 Tejas Mk.1As, probably up to 130. 2) Yes. 3) The PLAGF won’t be the first to initiate military hostilities, rest assured. The entire PLAGF gameplan rests on the premise that India will be the first to open fire.
To SANGOS: I had never implied that. As explained in previous threads, the Tibetans themselves today are resentful against the CIA for leaving them high-n-dry.
To PARTHASARATHI: Derby’s seeker & Meteor’s propulsion onside which missile airframe? Even South Korea is imported technologies off-the-shelf from the US for its KFX project. So how can South Korea supply anything to India?
To KAUSTAV & BUDDHA: Events are now moving at a pace never witnessed before in the subcontinent, & these are also increasing my daily ISR taskings:
ReplyDeleteJapan To Share Military Intelligence With India:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLVIJlsy1x4
Japan has the world’s best EW threat library on all kinds of China-origin electromagnetic emissions & this definitely will come in handy for India & even Vietnam.
And as expected, the US Navy begins indirectly choking China’s SLOCs through naval exercises in the South China Sea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMdvl5rgXyI
A similar exercise led by INS VIkramaditya should be conducted in the Andaman Sea along with the navies of Myanmar, Japan & Australia.
https://eurasiantimes.com/now-myanmar-accuses-china-for-creating-trouble-in-the-country/
Even Bhutan is now emboldened to openly challenge China:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiiZbDwz-8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUEARgHOKiA
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/china-says-it-has-border-dispute-with-bhutan-too/story-TlhVkk7TwAS97DiASzBSBK.html
financialexpress.com/defence/us-to-deploy-troops-to-india-southeast-asia-to-counter-growing-threat-from-china-mike-pompeo/2004477/
When the US Secretary of State was talking about forces redeployments involving the USMC expeditionary forces, he was referring to the contingency plan for deploying such a force inside Bhutan in case of any PLA invasion of Bhutanese territory. So, if the USMC V-022 Ospreys are deployed in northeast India in both Assam & Arunachal Pradesh’s ALGs, this then will free the IAF’s Mi-17s for being concentrated in the western & central sectors of the LAC.
India Bans China Apps, Hurting Tibetan Refugees in India:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82o1CMEPuUU
This should have been done 8 years ago after this incident:
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/karmapa-cash-row-ed-begins-probe/story-E3YgDfMiCauhmPc0oIQx4O.html
China’s Ministry for State Security has been using such Apps to secretly communicate with its UGWs & OGWs alike throughout all the Buddhist monasteries located in Ladakh, Himachal Pradesh & Sikkim where the Tibetan Lama clergy is dominant.
IAF increases its airspace familiarisation activities throughout Ladakh & northern J & K UT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr9aWG2KsFM
And that’s because Pakistan has literally walked into a trap by eulogizing OBL as a martyr & putting all its eggs into China’s basket when in 2016 it had openly declared that China’s enemy is also Pakistan’s enemy. Now the world wants retribution:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgZluXYfdM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17QbzZix69Q
And the final icing on the cake: Pakistani Generals call Kashmiris ‘Traitors’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qIru5RZzLI&t=21s
The time now is indeed ripe for commencing the conquest of Gilgit-Baltistan through salami-slicing tactics over a 1-year period, starting with the capture of Oltinthang-Siari-Fraono area & forcing the eviction of the PA’s 323 Brigade from the Dansum-Goma-Gyari area.
If you are comfortable with it I would like to request you to do a piece on the present Economy of Pakistan, the challenges its facing in short term, medium term and long term. And what are the ways by which we can exploit those issues to our benefit. Maybe also add a paragraph on economies of Sri Lanka, Nepal and Bangladesh and how can we influence them.
ReplyDeletePrasunda
ReplyDeleteIt's then time to liberate the Trans Himalayan range (Karakoram to Kailas) from the control of PRC & Pak to restore India's natural frontiers, secure our water sources from Ganges(Ngari), Indus, Brahmaputra (Kailas - Mansarovar) & gain access to the Wakhan for North South corridor & connectivity to Russia & CARs. I look forward to the restoration of natural borders as defined by the title & ownership of the erstwhile princely state of Kashmir. Both India & PRC have been at this game for a year. Now with the US led coalition & Japan getting openly into the game with Intel & logistical & military support a Free Tibet, Eastern Turkestan & breakup of PRC might be on the cards.
A small heads up on the Trans Karokaram for other readers on this forum
https://youtu.be/geZqiHq6pqA
Hope I m not too optimistically cuckoo 😜 Prasunda What say?
From the above discussion and article's it is quite evident that another Wuhan is not a possibility but a military option will be exercised because not doing anything or behaving like a subsurvient nation will cost us dearly in the long run.
ReplyDelete* read a few interesting articles. posting them for audit.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.rand.org/pubs/documents/D10703.html
https://openthemagazine.com/cover-story/is-india-still-paying-for-nehrus-china-submissive-policy/
* Lanka seems to have signed SOFA. I remember u mentioned some time back that stationing of Americans there would not be in India's interest.
http://www.asiantribune.com/node/94361
* the Hypersonic and ballistic tracking space sensors program seems interesting & moving fast. any desi plans along similar lines? i have a feeling i know the answer but humor me please.
https://www.c4isrnet.com/battlefield-tech/space/2020/01/21/one-military-space-agencys-plan-for-1000-new-satellites-by-2026/
* given the nature of china & russian realism, surprised that lavrov said what he said in raisina & now ryabkov saying china should be in G7. what explains this?
Hi Prasun
ReplyDeleteJust heard the Hindu podcost by hemant adlamka.
https://www.thehindu.com/podcast/how-the-chinese-news-commentariat-has-covered-the-galwan-clash-and-how-india-figures-in-their-strategic-outlook-the-hindu-in-focus-podcast/article31992235.ece
Paints a scary picture.
Is India ready for this chinese onslaught.
Heard an Australian podcost few days ago where a scholar called India a Chinese data colony and one that is enveloped by China. According to him it will be near impossible to get out of Chinese trap carefully set over the years.
Today Nirupama Rao in her twitter handle talked of diplomatic and political solution.
Why are we repeating same mistakes.
Really disheartening commentaries.
Regards,
Srinivasa Nanduri
Your
Hi Prasun,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the new post again want to ask you some thing off topic a bit TV9 has reported Israel strikes on Iran nuclear enrichment facilities and missile factory and Iran has promised counter strikes
1st Question
Does Iran possess such capability or in process of acquiring them?
2nd Question
Israel said to have used F-35 does this prove that F-35 are able to supress or fool the air surveillance capabilities of Iran which is mix of Soviet, Chinese and Iranian components?
3rd Question
What will be the next course of this action mean in context with Pakistan?
Thanks in advance
Dear Prasun,
ReplyDeleteIs the progress of Tejas Mk1A on the right track? Do you think that HAL can include all those 40 concessions into the final product?
@prasun da
ReplyDelete1. are you trying to imply that #hh Karmapa Lama was planted by China
2. if you remember few days back in last thread i had said India needs to take back PoK/GB by 2021 and finish off LoC and then shift focus on LAC and taking back CoK by 2025, seems this is what will happen eventually by your assessment that you have done till now
3. you said Tejas mk 1A will have air refuelling but where are the refullers to supply so many jets??
4. you talked only about 2 Bombarier jets wt about the 2 Netra AEWC or Phalcon AEWC couldnt these be used to keep eye across LAC / LoC btw when are the 2 Phalcon AEWC coming to India
5. Cant the Akash missiles by deployed n Andaman??
thanks
Joydeep Ghosh
If China is careful not to start the first strike, then India should go ahead to capture Gilgit & Baltistan at the correct moment. After all and anyhow it is going to be a two-front war. Fortunately or unfortunately India can not escape from this destiny. "Correct moment" mostly is the Keyword when the oceans are hot or boiling.
ReplyDeleteTo ANKIT KUMAR: VMT, but I’m hard-pressed for time, given the rising number of daily ISR taskings.
ReplyDeleteTo KAUSTAV: And here’s what Nostradamus had predicted for the year 2020:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcuUHFx64DQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KatpaWS3rEY
To ROHIT GILL: Exactly, but the military option has to be exercise in a cold-blooded manner with a cool mind & this calls for patience. After all, the campaign season for that whole area is till this November.
To SRINIVASA NANDURI: Instead of alarmist futurology, here are some rational assessments:
https://warontherocks.com/2020/06/chinas-strategic-assessment-of-the-ladakh-clash/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTQjpqxQyJA&t=12s
PLA Unrest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEtRNFMSLTg
https://www.orfonline.org/research/5g-infrastructure-huaweis-techno-economic-advantages-and-indias-national-security-concerns-58644/
Of course the solution will be negotiated by politicians & diplomats, but to bring the adversary to the negotiating table as the junior of the two parties, the military tools/options have first to be used/exercised at a time & place of India’s choosing.
To THE RAT: Yes, that idiotic TV channel broadcast that FAKE NEWS & I wonder what’s in store for today or tomorrow: Osama Bin Laden & his band of Mujahids spotted in the Depsang Plains???
To ASD: Exactly how many times have you asked this question & how many times more will you ask it in future?
To JOYDEEP GHOSH: 1) If not planted, then definitely influenced. 2) Watch these videoclips for future developments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcuUHFx64DQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KatpaWS3rEY
3) Aerial refuelling in India’s case is not generally done during operational sorties, but when the combat aircraft squadrons are being ferried from their home bases to forward air bases. Only select long-distance deep-interdiction sorties (perhaps 1 out of every 100 sorties) will require aerial refuelling support. Ideally, the IAF ought to possess 24 MRTTs. 4) The IAF’s AEW & CS platforms are for airborne battle management & not for ground/battlefield surveillance, for which the 2 Bombardier 5000s have belly-mounted SAR sensors. So don’t equate AEW & CS platforms with ISR platforms. 6) Any SAM system can be deployed anywhere, provided there’s adequate transportation support available by land, sea & air.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/03/our-pastures-have-been-taken-india-china-himalayan-land-grab?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1593772641
And what can we say about this:
https://theprint.in/politics/rahul-gandhi-has-skipped-all-11-meetings-of-standing-committee-on-defence-since-september/454931/
Absolutely beghairat, besharam, behayaa, naalayak & nikamma, to say the very least.
Interesting assessment of affairs in PoK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAIMAv6h47A&t=32s
ReplyDeleteTo THE RAT: This is what really happened at Natanz:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDog1YpKQK8
And this was the FAKE NEWS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqYQ7Sx9Xhc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXCCWFqXHfY
To ANKIT KUMAR: This is the true state of Pakistan's economy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT20kxHw3EQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEjkE3mD6YA
And yet, delusional falsehoods are peddled like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osef8_tnTBw
Hi Prasun,
ReplyDeleteDo you have any idea why Boeing has brought the F15ex to the mrca competition.
Is the IAF interested in it ?
Regards,
Sandy
Hi Sir, Again a great article.
ReplyDeleteBut I have some off topic question though related to our industries:
[https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/haryana-drafting-ordinance-for-75-reservation-to-locals-in-private-sector/article32005316.ece, https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/andhra-passes-bill-giving-75-job-reservation-for-locals/articleshow/70374723.cms]
1. Does these kind of reservations works?
2. Dushyant chautala in interviews claim 11 other states have them, but are these ever implemented or enforced or just for public optics?
3. If yes, then how come companies not object to these gimmicks?
Thanks
Soikot
Prasun,
ReplyDelete1-Russians now playing both sides? .. https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2020/07/09/russia-confirms-progress-on-new-jet-engine-is-it-for-pak-jf-17-fighter.html.. is this to placate the chinese for selling weapons to indians?
2-UN raising kashimir again, chinese move as retaliation on ladakh-is the UN also taken over like WHO ?.. India should retaliate in strongest terms on its inaction on freeing GB & PoK & terrorism emanating from pakistan
http://idrw.org/un-makes-its-third-communication-on-jammu-and-kashmir-public/ ...they dont speak on terrorists
3-whats stopping India to formally endorse Quad
4- oli hanging in ..How is china blatantly playing in nepal and India is not reacting/can;t react to pressure them . What is stopping us from propping up prachanda guy or any body else..is prachanda also bought out or he simply does not have enough support base..who is an alternative for india.
5- Joe Biden ahead of trump according to surveys .. given his utterances on kashmir as also the democrats stance, should India be wary of his election?
6- Dams plans in GB.. you had mentioned that the locals in GB will react to the dam plans by the paki-Chinese there.Are they in enough numbers given all the demographic changes the pakis have done since 47..also do they have the strength(financial & manpower) to fight them off .. the pak army will intervene & finish them off or will let loose the terrorists