The Indian Air Force’s (IAF) decision to procure close to 400 Armement Air-Sol Modulaire (AASM) HAMMER (Highly Agile Modular Munition Extended Range) PGMs from the SAGEM subsidiary of France SAFRAN Group along with related RAFAUT-built AUF-2 dual ejector racks for arming its Tejas Mk.1 L-MRCAs is yet another significant step further in the IAF’s attempt to play a significant role as far as joint AirLand ground campaigns go.
Available in 125kg, 250kg, 500kg and 1,000kg versions, the variant that the IAF is procuring is the 250kg variant of AASM/HAMMER, whose primary targets will be the network of unmanned SIGINT stations (encased within white-coloured domes & often mistaken for airspace surveillance radars) and static sites housing Ukraine-origin MANDAT-B1E R-330UM jammers that have since 2011 sprung up at dominating heights all along the Line of Actual Control (LAC). Secondary targets will be the high-altitude gunpits that have been constructed since 2017 at locations like the area north of Nathu La and at Chakung facing northeast Sikkim.
To be used in the opening hours of any future military conflict with either China or Pakistan, the 250kg AASM/HAMMER PGMs will enable the Tejas Mk.1s as well as the projected Tejas Mk.1As to launch such PGMs despite flying low at an altitude of 500 feet AMSL over the plains in the western front—a feat which gliding PGMs cannot achieve. When the battlespace is over high-altitude plateau areas or even over mountainous terrain, the Tejas Mk.1s/Mk.1As will be able to fly terrain-masking flight-profles (like flying over river-valleys) to evade detection by hostile ground-based air-defence networks and yet be able to launch the AASM/HAMMER from standoff distances.
This is because all versions of the AASM/HAMMER are propelled by a solid-fuel rocket motor allows the AASM/HAMMER to effortlessly cruise forward and change its altitude upwards for a pop-up cruise phase and vertical-attack in the terminal phase. A laser-homing variant of this PGM was once released from a Rafale that also designated (with a laser designator pod) the 90-degree off-axis target, at 15km range. The PGM launch was deliberately conducted on a partly cloudy day, with the PGM being initially guided toward the target by GPS, while the Rafale descended below the clouds to activate the laser of its LDP.
A Tejas Mk.1/Mk.1A will be
able to carry four AASM/HAMMER PGMs, which will be launched in a vertical
attack mode that can be selected from the cockpit. The laser-guided version can
also be used against targets moving at 80kph--twice the limit of LGBs--and it
is easier to operate from a single-pilot MRCA.
Weapons interfacing will be a seamless affair since the source-codes for the stores management system of the Tejas Mk.1/Mk/1A are owned by the DRDO’s Aeronautical Development Agency.
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Dear Sir , When can we expect a Follow On Order for RAFALES
And How many more Rafales will we buy
Excellent news that IAF is trying to make Tejas lethal.
1. How far can the electro optical sensors on predator-b see?
2. What is the range of its radar on GMTI mode?
Thanks
Hi Prasunji,
Between AASARAM & Python 5 which is better missile?
Please do in depth analysis of Air to Air missiles of Indian Airforce & Air Doctrine of Indian Airforce.
Thanks & Regards
Hardik Thanki
Sir you need to end your blogpost with this video. https://youtube.com/watch?v=lFgDkIwM32w
1) Why was Hammer chosen over Spike?
2) What are the DRDO alternatives to Spike/Hammer/Paverway? I thought HSLD has been tested.
3) IAF needs to commit to minimum 400 in the Tejas mk1/1a/2 family.
4) IN has confirmed 3rd carrier in next 15 years. Means TEDBF/ORCA is coming along for the ride? Same people who are against TEDBF are the ones who hated Tejas all these years...
5) If common sense prevails, then 108 TEDBF/ORCA will be needed on top of Rafale.
6) DRDO and IAF successfully tested Long Range Bomb (LRB) Gaurav on 29 October 2021 from Su-30MKI at Balasore, Odisha. How does this compare to the other PGMs mentioned earlier?
7) DRDO Swift looks similar to RQ-170 that was captured by Iran. Sukhoi S-70 looks quite similar too. Coincidences?
8) S-400 you keep flip flopping on whether it's used for ABM. So right now it's only an XRSAM?
9) Please give us some options and retaliations that we can do to counter this https://youtube.com/watch?v=zsyhZBJ_U60
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8g_HnuzWMwc
Londistan is a breeding ground for Sikh and Muslim terrorists.... let's update Agni-5 diagram to show that it hits Londonistan....
10) https://youtube.com/watch?v=70h_ImQPpX0 What does this agreement cover?
Prasun,
- Tejas seems to be shaping up well ...why not also go for the Rafaut triple rack pylon to carry @3 A2A missiles of diff kill range. what other foreign niche weapons will get added to tejas
Prasun,
1- recent visit by US Afghan envoy to porkistan & Porkis allowing India wheat to Afghanistan .. what has transpired. with teh wheat export we are saving basically saving the talib arse from the afghan populace what do we get in return?
2- Did Putin trigger the polish - belarus crisis? why?
3- what is your reading of the US-china meetup?
Prasun da, I had some questions for you on the last thread. Could you pls answer those here. Thanks.
Sir when the MAWS, Laser warning system and the DIRCM has not been installed on the LCH then why is everyone making such a big deal of inducting the LCH.
If I am not wrong for a low flying combat helicopter without these systems it is a sitting duck for any infantry soldier armed with a decent manpad.
I really thought after the shoot down of the Mi 17 during the Kargil war by stingers the IAF would have made it compulsory for helicopters in an offensive role to be equipped with these compulsory defensive suites.
Just wanted to know the timeline for when all these important systems will be installed on the LCH
Sir, there are rumours that Rolls Royce has been blacklisted. Can you confirm? And what impact will it have on the deal between HAL and Rolls Royce to supply spare parts for Adour engines?
Very well explained the utility of HAMMER Prasun sir! One question was niggling me from your last post. India is on the verge of signing 21000 crore deal for 30 MQ-9B Sea/Sky Guardian drones. No doubt these are very decorated UAVs in war against Iraq and in Afghanistan. But America is phasing them out as the focus has shifted to a near peer threat and these UAVs won't survive against China. Then why are we purchasing them especially when our resources are already stretched ? Reconnaissance and Surveillance purposes I can understand and the other plausible reason could be that India plans to reverse engineer them to make its own quality UAVs. Otherwise in strike role we can employ MQ-9B only against the MAOs. We can't even use them to strike against terrorists inside Pakistan, because they have means like HQ-9 to shoot them down. So my point was that when we are staring at war with China, we could instead have preponed Rs 24000 crore deal for Super Hornets Block III. As it is, Super Hornet with DPTN system, TTNT datalink and arguably the most powerful IRST in Legion pod, can be employed to take on stealth aircraft.
Is there any plans to equip python 5 and I derby ER on Tejasmk1A?
Is there confirmation that Tejasmk1A will have IRST?
Sir - What role will Tejas Mk1 and Mk1a play in IAF. Will it be all of tactical interceptor, short range bombing and recce?
Prasun,
You mentioned skyward G to be offered foe tejas..is it only for mk2 since tejas mk1/has space crunch..I had read in an article on gripen e that skyward g is a very light weight irst @40 kgs. Any chance on mk1/1a. If yes where will it be positioned.also drdo is working on a desi version..any progress on that?
To ARPIT KANODIA: Apologies for this delayed reply to your November 14 query. Such phenomena have historically been witnessed whenever some kind of nuclear WMD-related activities on the ground have taken place. Perhaps something like that was going on at the IAF's Jamnagar air base, like an exercise conducted at nighttime by India's Strategic Forces Command.
To PANKAJ: Your guess is as good as mine.
To DEBASHISH GHOSH: That depends on the UAV’s cruising altitude.
To HARDIK THANKI: AASARAM is in jail. Both AIM-132 ASRAAM & Python-5 are comparable in performance. For some info on China’s AAMs & ASMs, do browse through this:
https://forceindia.net/feature-report/china-rode-military-tech-wave/
To KARTHIK BARMAN: 1) SPIKE is an ATGM. 2) PG-HSLD & SAAW & Gautam/Gaurav are all gliding PGMs, not powered ones & hence can manoeuvre only in azimuth & not in elevation—that’s the difference. 3) That will derail the MWF’s R & D process. 4 & 5) That’s a childish opinion. How can development of MWF, TEDBF & AMCA all take place at the same time? How many ADA-type laboratories are there in India that are reqd for concurrent MRCA developments? Even the US & Russia don’t undertake such concurrent platform developments. 6) They’re gliding PGMs suitable for use only on plains. 7) Yes. 8) You’ve totally misunderstood. S-400 makes use of four types of SAMs, each for a different type of threat/target. 9) What’s there to counter? Tipu Sultan had such wealth obtained through plundering & the colonial Brits plundered such wealth from him. What’s that got to do with India, which came into being much later? 10) Development of nano-satellites & development of cyber warfare software & techniques.
S-400 LR-SAM Capabilities Explained: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6JiTKlOJq4
To JUST_CURIOUS: Triple ejector racks are better suited for M-MRCAs like Rafale & H-MRCAs like Su-30MKI, not for L-MRCAs like Tejas Mk.1/Mk.1A. The MWF will be able to take triple ejector racks. Only the MWF have an internally-mounted IRST sensor. Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A will be able to accept only pod-mounted external IRST sensor.
To SHUKANT CHATRATH: 1) It is known as perception management, i.e. how to make fools out of people who in turn are ever-willing to be made fools of.
To PRRANSHU YADAV: There is a conditional ban but nothing to do with Adour turbofan family.
To GAGANDEEP: VMT. I must put on record the fact about any type of MALE-UAVs & HALE-UAVs not being committed by anyone thus far in areas involving contested airspaces. Consequently, in wartime, pod-mounted SAR sensors like EL/M-2060P & optronic systems like RECCELite will play a far more critical role.
To SANTOSH: 1) Tejas Mk.1A will have AIM-132 ASRAAM. 2) No internal IRST sensor for Tejas Mk.1A. The MWF will have such an internally-mounted sensor.
To PRATAP: They are L-MRCAs & hence their versatility will enable them to undertake all types of missions.
HI prasan
Force magazine say that the jf-17 has the grifo radar but how did they integrate the chinese sd-10 in that case?.It is belived that the jf-17 is equiped with a knock of version of the elm 2032?? why do the italians give radar fully knowing that it will copied?
I am not impressed by the dubai flight display debut of the LCA , I have a feeling they are not pulling as much Gs and bank to show the max rate of turn . am i right ?.
Is there a pod mounted IRST in the making for the LCA? have we definately selected the skyward aor waiting for the development of the desi one/?
you said that the asrram has been selected for the lCA. but what happened to the python 5 that seems to have overcome the flutter and aerodynamic problems?.
Have we deployed ew systems like the ukaraine stuff that china has.?
for the HAMMER missile i belive the gps cordinates and the photo of the targetted site ahs to be uploaded for target recognition.?
Great Article. I thought Tejas was not ready for terrain hugging sorties?unless that's something being developed?
AJ
Hello sir,
1) Will HAMMER and SPICE coexist on Tejas mk1/mk1A/mk2 and will be chosen mission per say?
2) Is integration of HAMMER and future planned SCALP EG on Tejas suggest the additional order of Rafale? (As weapon commonality will be cheap, specially considering the huge number Tejas and Rafale form).
3) can we see HAMMER on other aircraft type as well like Su-30mki, bcz integration of HAMMER and Lightening pod is already there?
Dear Prasun,
In this thread, you have appreciated the integration of Hammer PGMs with Tejas crafts.
1. Will this be game changer for IAF against PLAAGF?
2. With the integration of Hammer PGM with Tejas, has the criticism that Tejas Mk1 draws from you diminished i.e. Tejas Mk1 will be not tagged as wastage of tax payers money? I am assuming that even though it is deprived of IRST, MAWS, etc. still for air to ground operation can be used effectively in terrain masking profile.
3. Can Rafale alone help India win against China in case of war? Can the IAF give fitting response to the Chinese mechanization plan with the help of Rafale?
Apart from this, one out of syllabus topic base question:
Now a days why comedians keep on barking against country, majority community to gain popularity. Just for example Vir Das. Day before yesterday nobody could recognize him. After country and majority community bashing, he has got thousands of followers in Instagram and Twitter. Is it possible to stop the abuse of right to free speech in a democratic country (be it USA or India or any true democratic country)?
Hi prasun,
1) Seeing the latest HAMMER integration on Tejas, does this mean NO SPICE series for Tejas?
2) What's your new take on Spice integration on Su-30mki that we saw on the picture emerged last month? (Considering the HAMMER on Tejas).
What's IAF trying to do here?
- Atul
Prasun,
1) How will S500 be integrated with S400?Will it be that the missiles of S500 are added to the existing S400 system and the software and the other equipment on the existing S400 be upgraded to make it an S500?
2)As per your analysis it seems to me that the present administration is making a fool of the public in respect of getting back POK?Is it correct?
3) It is my personal opinion based on analysis that the administration both this one as well as the earlier ones have been using perception management to retain their hold on power as well as manage a lot of issues!Am I correct in thinking so?What is your opinion?
1) First Project 15B DDG INS Visakhapatnam will be commissioned in Mumbai on November 21, 2021.
2) Fourth CM-2000 Scorpène SSK INS Vela will be commissioned in Mumbai on November 25, 2021.
3) Second SSGN INS Arighat will be commissioned at Vizag on November 25, 2021. It won't be a public event & no public announcement will be made. Only selected invitees will attend the event.
To RAD: 1) This SELEX Galileo brochure (https://www.scribd.com/document/33774346/Grifo-Family) SAYS that the Grifo MMR is on board the JF-17. And that's why China did not export the PL-12 BVRAAM to Pakistan & instead exported the lesser-capable SD-10A BVRAAM.
2) Aerobatic displays NEVER show how a fully-armed MRCA will fly under combat conditions. That's why I never bother to watch such displays. 3) Po-mounted IRST sensor has already been developed by Lockheed Martin. In India, an internally-mounted IRST sensor has been offered by the MoD for development with minimum 40% local industrial content. 4) AIM-132 ASRAAM will go on board both Tejas Mk.1/Mk.1A & Jaguar IS/DARIN-3. 5) Yes. 6) Yes & I will be supplying them.
To AJ: VMT. EL/M-2032 MMR has the terrain avoidance mode of operation.
To UNKNOWN: 1) Yes. Weapons-to-Target Matching software developed in India takes care of the armament issues for all IAF combat aircraft. 2) SCALP-EG won't go on board any variant of Tejas LCA, but it will go on board the under-development MWF. 3) Not on Su-30MKI, but on the Super Su-30MKI & Jaguar IS/DARIN-3 & the projected MWF.
To ASD: 1) It will be one of the gamechangers. 2) Not yet. Pylon-encased MAWS sensors will eventually be mounted. 3) Not at all, but the combination of Rafale, Super Su-30MKI, Tejas Mk.1/Mk.1A, upgraded Mirage-2000N, MiG-29UPG & Jaguar IS/DARIN-3 will.
To you, Vir Das may well appear to be mocking India. But to me, he is showing us all the mirror to us all & pointing out the present-day contradictions that we are loathe to accept & admit due to our own cultural deficiencies that instead promote the concept of brushing everything under the carpet. To me, far more globally embarrasng events/actions have shown India is very bad light. Take this example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goQ2j-YiRVY
The tens of crores of Rs wasted on such ‘Nautankis’/’Tamaashas’ could easily have been spent on bringing to life all of UP’s village-based primary health-care centres. But instead, the residents of UP were subjected to hardships like the unavailability of public bus transportation just because these buses were used for ferrying the ‘pasmaanda’ folks of Poorvanchal to slightly more urbanised areas! No advance warning warning was given at the various bus depots.
And then we have the embarrassment of having a Constitution of 1950 vintage but the Police Laws of 1867 vintage & Epidemic Law of 1895. And that’s why India continues to be ruled, not governed. Compared to such crimes, Vir Das comes out as an innocent lad, wouldn’t you agree?
To UNKNOWN/ATUL: 1) Have already explained it above. 2) It is all about weapons-to-target matching.
To THE INDIAN: 1) SAMs of the S-400 & S-500 are inter-operable & inter-changeable. 2) Not only PoJK, but also about what’s transpiring in AP, like this:
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/second-china-constructed-enclave-in-arunachal-show-new-satellite-images-2613160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFkrGYI733g
2) Of course, the IDIOTS at NDTV & CNN-News-18 have WRONGLY ASSUMED that the borders shown in Indian political maps are IB, which they are not since as per international law IBs are jointly demarcated & delineated by two countries, not by one unilaterally. In realty, the McMahon Line & Johnson Line adopted by India in AP & Ladakh are ‘conceptual claim-lines’. Most crucially, these idiotic ‘desi patrakaars’ are clueless about the COLOMBO PLAN, which had formed the basis for the two respective LACs of China & India & a demilitarised no-man’s lands in between the two. What China is doing now is to build its permanent settlements & structures within this no-man’s land, thereby violating the understanding reached as per the Colombo Plan back in late 1962.
Prasun,
Thanks for clarity on the issues!
However I fear for my country!How long will this continue?
Prasunda,
Thanks for your response.
The problem I have with Vir Das or any other liberal comedian is they will never criticize Indian Muslims or any of their traditions. A comedian will exaggerate things which is why he made the outrageous statements. If he was an equal opportunity offender/critic/comedian, I am with him. When only one religion is targeted, thats when I think most Indians like me have a problem.
I did my due diligence and saw his other acts. Its all about bashing Hindus and Modi Supporters. Dare he say a word for Sonia, Christian, Muslims of India.
Just my opinion. Thanks.
AJ
Dear Prasun,
I'm amazed at your response regarding Vir Das. This fellow has brought humiliation for this country. He has been exposed by many twitterati about his past tweets. They are full of vilifying women. You can't be a woman worshipper at day and a rapist at night. But Vir Das is!!!
What Vir Das told, had those words come from you or any knowledgeable person of course people would have given importance to it. The masses would respect it; but in case of Vir Das it is like ULTA CHOR KOTWAL KO DANTE. Hope you agree with me!!!
Accordingly then azadi gang is also correct who will chant Bharat tere tukde tukde ho!!!
Please enlighten me about the dark side of right to free speech and how to deal with it.
Prasun,
Do all IN ships including vishakapatnam class use the co.positw super structure from saab?
To people being offended by the admission of Vir Das,
Vir das is a Hindu Indian.
He is literally admitting that he worships godesses in the day and gang rapes his mother, sister , daughter at night along with his brother and father.
He is just a product of such inbreeding and is continuing this legacy.
He is admitting this at the Kennedy center just to fit in with the Americas because as we all know kenedy was a champion womanizer. And Americans are the world superpower in making and consuming incest porn.
Also all abrahamic religions believe in adam and eve and we all being the result of their children who were all brothers and sisters sleeping with each other to propogate the human race.
Another thing all abrahamic faiths believe strongly is that god raped a married woman so the Messiah could be born.
Hence the son of god is a product of rape
This is the very reason catholic priests rape babies ( they are just following in gods footsteps)
OR
he is from RSS and a caa , nrc supporter
And thinks all indians are Hindu and therefore whoever doesn't worship a goddess in day before raping a woman at night is not an indian. ( Basically he is saying non Hindu men are not indian)
We must take pride in the fact that he is expressing his right to free speech and showing a mirror to the westerners at their own home.
He is a brave man. Not many can admit being a rapist on YouTube.
I fully support vir das.
Prasun, please allow people to read this, freedom of speech and expression should be equal to all and we must tolerate opinions which are garbage and we vehemently disagree with.
To THE INDIAN: This will continue for as long as India does not rid herself of all the colonial-era dogmas, especially WRT foundational definitions. Here is one such honest attempt that was aired yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBgWzaYQQjk
To AJ: When Vir Das was delivering his monologue, he never distinguished between communities nor did he exclude himself. We all therefore have to arise above such Hindu-Muslim binaries simply because they are the byproducts of factually wrong Western thoughts & educational curriculums. For instance, the 3 Abrahamic religious theocracies place emphasis on theie respective Creators, whereas The Vedantic & Dharmic theologies place emphasis on the process of creation. If this isn’t understood, then one will forever be condemned to engaging in an irrational discourse that engages in retrograde bench-marking when there is none reqd because one then starts comparing apples with oranges & ends up severely degrading Hinduism/Hindutva.
To ASD: As I stated before, he only showed us all the mirror. If you are of the view that he humiliated India, then as I had explained earlier, there are far more people in great positions of authority who are humiliating India & unleashing suffering among the citizenry of India with every passing day, thereby wilfully violating the social contract. In addition, such reactive displays of hostility in social media only further reinforces the reality of India losing in the domai9n of information warfare. For instance, instead of whining & yelling about all kinds of ‘Tukde-Tukde Gands’, what needs to be said is that if some Muslim citizen is threatening to block the Siliguri Corridor, then there will be 1 million Muslims who will be more than willing to keep the Siliguri Corridor open even at the cost of their lives, just as the then Grand Mufti of Delhi’s Jama Masjid had declared in mid-1999 that India is capable opf producing 1 million Lt Haneefuddins who would willingly embrace martyrdom for India anytime. Hence, there is no dark side of free speech. Instead, one only requires an intelligent & swift retort.
But we should be worried about far greater threats, like this:
Crypto-Currency Challenges: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oOn9VJwUio
Since 2015, in anticipation of de-monetisation, several politicians, including the loved near-n-dear ones of those now occupying some of the highest positions in the GoI, have converted most of their ill-gotten wealth into various crypto-currencies, with a conservative estimate claiming that 1 crore Indian citizens already have Rs.6 billion worth of crypto-currences. But my SOUBHAGYA is that I’m able to engage in remote-viewing of the following events: of the 18-day Mahabharata War:
On Day-6, the battles raged beyond sunset but ended by nighttime.
On Day-8, the battles continued to be waged at nighttime as well.
On Day-9, the fiercest battles commenced after sunset.
On Day-10, Bheeshma is injured and cannot fight anymore.
On Day-13 Abhimanyu is killed on the battlefield.
On Day-14, the battles were waged throughout the night & continued well into the next day. Jayadrata is killed on the battlefield.
On Day-15, Drona is killed in battle.
On Day-17, Karna is slain by Arjuna.
On Day-18 fighting continued well into the night, resulting in the deaths of King Shalya, Duryodhana, Dhrishtdyumna and the five sons of Draupadi.
To ANON@1.14AM: Freedom of speech & expression also comes with certain obligations, such as standing up & being held accopuntable for one’s words & deeds. Hence you ought to set an example (before making demands) by identifying yourself with an indetifiable identity, instead of taking refuge in anonymity. The motto ought to be: do as I do & not do as I say. Charity always begins at home.
THE COLOMBO PROPOSALS EXPLAINED:
IT IS NOT necessary to go into the details of the terms of the ceasefire unilaterally declared by China except the following salient points:
(I) Beginning from the midnight of November 21-22, 1962, the Chinese Frontier Guards would cease fire along the entire border.
(2) The Chinese would begin a withdrawal from December 1, 1962, and they would withdraw to positions 20km behind the line of actual control which existed between China and India on November 7, 1959. (The Chinese would thus completely evacuate NEFA and hold positions north of the McMahon Line.)
(3) In the middle and the western sectors the Chinese Frontier Guards would withdraw 20km from the line of actual control (which would more or less mean 20km from their claimed line of 1960. But they would evacuate Demchok, Rezang La, etc.)
(4) Inside the area in their side of actual control but to be vacated by them, the Chinese would set up checkposts with civil police and notify their existence to the Government of India.
(5) The Chinese and Indian Governments should appoint officials to meet at places agreed upon by both the parties
to discuss matters relating to the 20km withdrawal of the armed forces of each party to form a demilitarised zone and the establishment of checkposts by each party on its side of the line of actual control as well as the return of the captured personnel.
(6) When the tasks of these officials had yielded results and the results had been put into effect, talks could be held between the Prime Ministers of the two countries either in China or in India.
(7) Even in the absence of response from the Indian Government in good time, the Chinese Government would take initiative to carry out the above-mentioned measures. This proposal would leave the Chinese in complete control of the entire north-east portion of Ladakh known as Aksai Chin, Soda Plains, Lingzi Tang and Depsang Plains, but they would be completely out of the NEFA and also the territory they had occupied in south-east Ladakh. In the middle sector there would be no change as there had been no Chinese intrusion. It was quite clear that the Chinese were not in any way disposed to give up the territory of north-east Ladakh, which they had grabbed by force.
Cont'd below...
The Chinese started their withdrawal not on December 1, 1962 as they had announced but much later and moved at a snail's pace and did not cross the passes till towards the end of January 1963, taking over a month to traverse the area which they had covered in three days in their forward march. The explanation of this slow and delayed withdrawal given by the Chinese to their sympathisers was that they were watching the rate of flow of foreign military aid to India and assessing whether the Indian Government, strengthened by this foreign assistance, would be emboldened to strike back at their retreating army. The Chinese left in junk heaps most of the Indian arms which they had captured and for which they had no use. After rendering them ineffective, they asked India with a show of generosity to send officials to take over these arms. They, however, took away all vehicles, pump sets, hospital equipment, power units and even the helicoptcr which had crashed at Lumpu.
The Chinese did not allow the International Red Cross to visit Indian prisoners and thus violated the Geneva Convention. But the Indian Government allowed the Red Cross to visit Chinese civilian prisoners at Deoli and, though the Red Cross was satisfied with the way they were being treated, the Chinese carried on propaganda of maltreatment of these prisoners and repeatedly demanded their release and repatriation. These threats, however, had no effect on the Indian Government and, even when finally released, only a small number wanted to be repatriated to China and the rest went back to their homes in different states of India and settled down in the occupations they were pursuing before their arrest. The detention of these Chinese prisoners on security grounds, however, produced one good result. The Chinese released the Indian prisoners numbering about 3,000 by the end of April, 1963. They had done their best to brain-wash the prisoners and paraded the officer-soldier camaraderie supposedly prevailing in the PLA. They kept the Gurkhas isolated from the rest and made a special effort to win them over by propagating that they were not Indians and China and Nepal were good friends. But all this attempt to subvert the troops and separate the Gurkhas misfired. Again to show their friendliness, the Chinese took a batch of Indian officers on a conducted tour of China to impress them with the grand progress socialist China had made compared to poverty-stricken India.
Cont'd below...
In the meantime, the six Colombo Powers representing Ceylon, Burma, Cambodia, Indonesia, UAR and Ghana met at Colombo between December 10 and 12, 1962 at the initiative of the Ceylonese Prime Minister, Smt. Bandarnaike, and drew up what later became famous as the Colombo Proposals. It would be best to quote here the actual proposals and the principles underlying them and also the clarifications.
1. The Conference considers that the existing Ile fucto ceasefire period is a good starting point for a peaceful settlement of the Indian-Chinese conflict.
2. (a) With regard to the Western Sector, the Conference would like to make an appeal to the Chinese Government to carry out the 20km withdrawal of their military posts as has been proposed in the letter of Prime Minister Chou En-lai to Prime Minister Nehru of November 21 and November 28, 1962.
(b) The Conference would make an appeal to the Indian Government to keep their existing military position.
(c) Pending a final solution of the border dispute, the area vacated by the Chinese military withdrawals will be a demilitarised zone to be administered by civilian posts of both sides to be agreed upon, without prejudice to the rights of the previous presence of both India and China in that area.
3. With regard to the Eastern Sector, the Conference considers that the line of actual control in the areas recognised by both the Governments could serve as a cease-fire line to their respective positions. Remaining areas in this sector can be settled in their future discussions.
4. With regard to the problems of the Middle Sector, the Conference suggests that they will be solved by peaceful means, without resorting to force.
5. The Conference believes that these proposals, which could help in consolidating the cease-fire, once implemented, should pave the way of discussions between representatives of both parties for the purpose of solving problems entailed in the cease-fire position.
6. The Conference would like to make it clear that a positive response for the proposed appeal will not prejudice the position of either of the two Governments as regards its conception of the final alignment of the boundaries.
Cont'd below...
The Principles Underlying the Proposals
1. The Sino-Indian boundary dispute must be settlod by peaceful negotiations between China and India. The object of the Six is to create an atmosphere which would enable China and India to enter upon negotiations with dignity and self-respect.
2. The proposals of the Six are intended to create such an atmosphere.
3. In considering the proposals made by them, the Six welcomed the announcement of a unilateral cease-fire and withdrawal made by China on November 21, 1962.
4. In the formulation of these proposals, the Six paid particular attention to the following principles:
5. On a consideration of these principles, the Six were of the view that it was not feasible to formulate one uniform proposal to apply to all Sectors of the Sino-Indian boundary now in dispute. On the Eastern Sector:
(a) it seems to be clear that, whether the McMahon Line is considered to be an illegal imposition or not, it has in fact become a line of actual control, with the Chinese Government exercising exclusive administrative control to the north of it, and the Indian Government exercising exclusive administrative control to the south of it, except in Che Dong and Longju which are disputed;
(b) a stable cease-fire must precede any attempt at negotiations between China and India;
(c) any cease-fire arrangements must be without prejudice to the boundary claims of either party;
(d) in the establishment of a stable ceasefire, neither side should be requested to withdraw from territory which is admittedly theirs, or from territory over which they exercised exclusive civilian administration;
(e) the establishment of a stable cease-fire may or may not, according to circumstances, require the establishment of a demilitarised zone.
(f) for purpose of a cease-fire, the Six considered that this line of actual control would be the most appropriate;
(g) if this line were to be adopted, the nature of the terrain would bring about an automatic disengagement of forces, so that the establishment of a demilitarised zone would become unnecessary;
(h) neither side should be in a position to derive benefit from military operations;
(6) the Six considered that China and India should enter upon immediate negotiations in regard to the disputed portions of the Eastern Sector (i.e. Che Dong and Longju), and that it might be appropriate if arrangements similar to Longju could be made in respect of Che Dong pending a final settlement.
Cont'd below...
7. In the Middle Sector, the Six considered that, inasmuch as there had been no military operations in the sector, and inasmuch as the line of actual control was not in dispute, except at one place (Wuje or Barahoti), it would be appropriate if, pending a final settlement of overall boundary question,
(a) both sides desisted from military actions;
(b) both sides respected the status quo.
8. In formulating proposals for a cease-fire on the Western Sector, the Six bore in mind the following factual considerations:
(a) that China and India are not agreed as to what is meant by "the line of actual control as of November 7, 1959";
(b) that India exercised exclusive administrative control to the west of what the Chinese claim to be the traditional customary line, and, prior to 1959, may have sent out patrols to the east of that line from time to time;
(c) that between 1959 and 1962, India has established 43 military checkposts to the east of what the Chinese have described as the traditional customary line;
(d) that prior to 1959, the Chinese held somewhere to the east of the traditional customary line as claimed by them;
(e) that between 1959 and 1962, the Chinese also have established some military posts westward but to the east of what China claims as the traditional customary line;
(f) that the Chinese reached what they claimed to be the traditional customary line in 1962 as the result of their recent military actions;
(g) that the area to the east of what the Chinese claim as the traditional customary line is uninhabited so that civilian administrative control in the strict sense of that term would not have been possible by either side;
(h) that at the date of the unilateral cease-fire declared by the Chinese, the Chinese and Indian military forces were confronting each other more or less along the traditional customary line claimed by China.
9. Bearing these considerations in mind, the Six propose as a basis for a cease-fire:
(a) that Chinese forces should carry out the withdrawal proposed by Prime Minister Chou En-lai on November 21, 1962 on the Western Sector;
(b) that Indian forces should remain where they are, i.e. on the traditional customary line as claimed by China;
(c) that the area in between should be demilitarised pending a final settlement of the border dispute;
(d) that the demilitarised zone should be so administered as not to exclude the presence of either India or China as hitherto, pending a final settlement of the border dispute;
(e) that pending a final settlement of the border dispute, this zone should be so administered as to exclude the presence of military forces of both sides. It is therefore proposed that this zone should be administered by civilian posts to be agreed upon by both sides.
Cont'd below...
Clarification Given by the Representatives of the Colombo Powers to the Government of India on January 13, 1963
Upon request from the Government of India, the following clarifications of paragraphs 2,3 and 4 of the Colombo Conference proposals were given by the delegations of Ceylon, UAR and Ghana:
Western Sector
(i) The withdrawal of Chinese forces proposed by the Colombo
Conference will be 20km as proposed by PM Chou En-lai to PM Nehru in the statement of the Chinese Government dated 21 November, 1962 and in Prime Minister Chou En-lai's letter of 28 November, 1962, i.e. from the line of actual control between the two sides as of November 7, 1959, as defined in maps I11 and V circulated by the Government of China.
(ii) The existing military posts which the forces of the Govt of India will keep to will be on and up to the line indicated in ( i ) above.
(iii) The demilitarised zone of 20km created by Chinese military withdrawals will be administered by civilian posts of both sides. This is a substantive part of the Colombo Conference proposals. It is as to the location, the number of posts and their composition that there has to be an agreement between the two Governments of India and China.
Eastern Sector
The Indian forces can, in accordance with the Colombo Conference proposals, move right up to the south of the line of actual control, i.e. the McMahon Line, except for the two areas on which there is difference of opinion between the Governments of India and China. The Chinese forces similarly can move right up to the north of the McMahon Line except for these two areas. The two areas, referred to as the remaining areas in the ColomboConference proposals, arrangements in regard to which are to be settled between the Governments of India and China, according to the Colombo Conference proposals, are Che Dong or the Thagla Ridge area and the Longju area, in which cases there is a difference of opinion as to the line of actual control between the two Governments.
Middle Sector
The Colombo Conference desired that the status quo in this sector should be maintained and neither side should do anything to disturb the status quo.
Cont'd below...
The Colombo Powers' proposals with the explanation given, if implemented by China and India, would mean that in the eastern sector the McMahon Line would be the ipso facto cease-fire line and Indian and Chinese troops could be posted right up to the frontier excepting at Longju and Che Dong, which neither of the countries could occupy till a permanent border settlement was arrived at. In the middle sector the status quo would continue and as India was in physical-civil and military--control of the entire territory up to the Himalayan watershed in Uttar Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh and Punjab, there was going to be no alteration to that position. In the Western Sector, i.e. in Ladakh, the Chinese would withdraw 20km from their line of occupation, i.e. their 1960 claimed line except for slight deviations in Depsang plains and Demchok area and the Indians would hold their existing positions along that line and in that 20km belt there would be joint civilian posts of the Chinese and the Indians. This would mean that in the south-eastern portion of Ladakh from Demchok to Spanggur the Chinese would vacate the entire territory of India which they had occupied by force and even withdraw from some portions of their own territory and India could then establish civilian posts in these places and so could China. In the Aksai Chin, Lingzi Tang and Depsang Plains, the Chinese would generally have to withdraw from most of their westernmost positions and even from a portion of the circular road from Shamul Lungpa to Lanak La. This demilitarised area would be occupied by civilian staff of both the countries. So, with these explanations the Colombo Proposals came nearest to the demands made by Pandit Nehru of Chinese withdrawals before he would enter into any talks. At the instance of the PM, Parliament endorsed the Government's acceptance of these proposals by a vote of 359 for & 59 against on January 25, 1963.
Cont'd below...
On the other hand, though during Smt.Bandarnaike's' visit to Peking with the proposals, China had said that she was going to give a positive response, after the explanation given by these powers at New Delhi, China did not show any willingness to accept these proposals and made reservations where these were at variance with her own cease-fire proposals. She insisted that the main purpose of the Six was to bring the two countries to the negotiating table and this should be done without preconditions. This was the first diplomatic setback which China received and she thereby put herself in the wrong in the eyes of these six countries who were friends of both India and China. All their efforts at restoring and promoting friendly relations between the two Asian countries were rendered futile due to Chinese intransigence which thus blocked further peace talks. So they were frustrated and disillusioned. The fact that this friendly approach by six neutral, non-aligned Asian and African countries had been ultimately nullified by the Chinese had its own psychological effect on the minds of the other Afro-Asian countries and even on the minds of the socialist countries of Europe. To offset this and to isolate India, China, from her position of strength, made great efforts throughout the whole of 1963 to oust India from her position of influence in Africa by trying to win the friendship of the African countries and Chou En-lai made extensive tours and promises of lavish assistance. But the Africans, learning from the bitter lessons of the Indians, had become doubly wary and China's ministrations generally fell on deaf ears and, instead of being able to isolate India, it was China which gradually started becoming isolated. At one time the Chinese had also tried to gain influence in South America, but she was finally disowned even by the South American Communist parties. China also hastily concluded border treaties with Afghanistan, Mongolia and Burma, but in joint communiques issued in Burma and Afghanistan, these countries stressed in their statements that peace between India and China should be restored on the basis of the Colombo Powers' proposals. As it was China which had so far refused to accept the Colombo proposals, inclusion of this suggestion in the communiques was really a slap in China's face. Ultimately by 1964 the only real friend China was left with was Pakistan, not because of any ideological unity between her and China but because of their common hostility towards India. The upshot of all this was that though India's military prestige, which had been high till then in the Asian and African countries, had received a severe blow, she held on to all the territories which were under her occupation prior to September, 1962 except in north-east Ladakh. Most of this area in Ladakh had been occupied by the Chinese prior to September, 1962 but India lost the strip of territory (2,500 sq. miles) east of the Chinese-claimed line which she had occupied before the hostilities. Considering the nature of this terrain, the net material loss in territory was little; but the humiliation suffered was great.
Rezang La: When 124 IA Soldiers Faught 1,000 PLAGF Troops in 1962:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wQ3CpgN5T4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quWUicBpkwI&t=113s
How former Indian diplomats (Rajiv Dogra in ths case) try to defend the indefensible WRT China-India border:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW3Ka3sjxjM&t=19s
To JUST_CURIOUS: Such superstructures exists ONLY ON the latter two Project 28 ASW corvettes, as stated by SAAB:
https://www.saab.com/globalassets/products/kockums/composite-superstructure/saab_compositesuperstructure.pdf
Prasunda
Excellent Sir👍
The Chinese ain't 9 feet tall but then so isn't Elon Musk. The Chinese have a governance system as a handicap but the Amreekis have a self-imposed one of hubris which their own open mark system takes care of in a manner keeping rhem dynamic. What does India have?! This goes beyond EVs as is pretty clear - https://youtu.be/hTOtAniwC18
Prasun.
Why has the composite superstructure been Ltd to only 2 corvettes..is it due to cost or that it's not possible to build larger structures. Also had read that it was a transfer of technology to one of the desi ship yards so cud the tech be used on future ships?
Sorry Sir my fault, I got mixed up like Y front with panties!
Oi Anonymous- first show proof then have the guts to get a real identity instead of abusing other people's faith with baseless arrogance. If there is a real God of Israel and you dared mock that God you don't know what you have done to yourself. Mark my word it is not me who says this but see what happens to you.
HI prasun
If the griffo is on the jf-17 it means 2 thing thatthe kj7 is not up to it . NOw why would selex part wihthte codes integrate the sd-10?
you will be supplying the photo and GPs cordinates for targets??!! wow that is something , i really wonder if bloggers here know the value of that and what techinical expertise and resouces are needed to get that. Hats off!!
Prasun da,
Farmer Bil repelled: Spineless, vote adjustment, or masterstroke (definitely not)? Next what in the feathers: more road blockage - CAA, 370, etc..., now it seems now keep no hope of POJK
Prasunda,
What is the TBO of Tejas's GE 404 ! What is the life expectancy of airframe ? Have heard it's only 3000 hours ! Is it true ?
Thank you very much.
Best regards,
Hello Prasun,
1) What do you think of super Sukhoi upgrade, in terms of, what major russian components would be there? Like will there be russian radar/mission control system/EW suite/store management system...etc?
2) which russian weapons IAF is looking for super Sukhoi upgrade?
- AP
Prasunda
Excellent article by Lt. Gen.S. A. Hasnain & very topical in view of today's announcement by the PM in repealing farm laws
That Pakistan & PRC are very good at hybrid warfare be it 4GW & 5GW while PRC has been long ready with it's informationised warfare. https://www.newindianexpress.com/opinions/columns/2021/nov/16/analysing-indias-threat-spectrum-2383998.html.
Having said that, this government shall remain a lame duck government for bungling up the issue, not discussing it & failing to convince which will only lead to more such pressure tactics, whether the PM did it for the farmers then or whether he does it for the nation now or even whether he does it for the UP elections now & later for the Lok Sabha. If the country was facing a perilous situation because of the government's inability to manage the show with external threats, the situation just got more tougher right now. A bad decision & a big reverse for India. It's not likely that India is to emerge as an alternative to PRC in economic terms any time soon. Very Bad.
Hi Prasun,
Would appreciate your views on the following
https://asiatimes.com/2021/11/chinas-belt-and-road-chugging-along-in-central-asia/
Bhadrakumar may be stretching it, but the Uzbekistan involvement seems to be real and serious. Both China and the US seem to be interested in opening trade routes through Afghanistan Pakistan route. Even though Chabahar seems more stable, the Pakistani ports look very attractive too.
Your comments please
Regards
Raghu
Prausn Da, do you agree with what Swarajya has to say about the intension against withdrawal of farm bill:
"Is it a tactical withdrawal? As Swarajya’s R. Jagannathan writes, this is about discretion being the better part of valour, and marks the third time Modi has had to back off. The two earlier occasions were the aborted land reform bill, and the National Judicial Appointments Commission which the courts struck down. This ties in with word on the street, that some important bills might be tabled in the forthcoming winter session of parliament, but without corroboration, these whispers remain purely speculative.
Is it a mistake? Maybe it is, but there again, the original question comes up: why? We are looking for motive here, in the absence of which, value judgments are misplaced; which also means that we can’t term it a shrewd political move either.
In which case, does this mean a slow-down on reforms? Is Modi going to limp through the remaining half of his tenure, as some hope, and others fear, crafting half measures with half effect?
No, because make no mistake, this repeal is a move. Modi’s eyes did narrow at times during his morning broadcast, and that’s always an indicator of deep intent. We just don’t know what for, just yet.
That inference presents us with another possibility – of a hot winter (no elaboration necessary for those who understand). It cannot be discounted, because push has been coming to shove for some time now, and any canny government would want to calm tempers in border states first, before a balloon is floated somewhere. The move also ties in with National Security Advisor Ajit Doval’s recent statement, about civil society being a new frontier of war (yes, he used those exact words), which could be subverted to harm a nation.
Nonetheless, while the bottom line is that we don’t yet know why exactly Modi chose to repeal the farm laws, this much is clear:
Modi’s detractors shouldn’t exult at the repeal, just as his supporters shouldn’t get disheartened, because everything we know about the man tells us that a centennial cleaning of the swamp he has initiated will continue. Rather, his opponents should be concerned about what comes next, while those who voted for him should quietly keep the faith. A new phase in Indian politics is about to begin."
https://swarajyamag.com/politics/why-are-the-three-farm-laws-being-repealed
Again these are the logic opposition has to offer:
1. Upcoming Elections: While an official reason for the government’s big decision is awaited, Opposition parties have claimed that the Modi’s government has decided to repeal the contentious laws in the wake of forthcoming elections in five states— Uttar Pradesh, Punjab, Uttarakhand, Himachal Pradesh, and Goa, scheduled to be held next year. “After 600-700 farmers died during the year-long agitation, the Prime Minister is now apologizing for the laws but he has not uttered a word about martyred farmers. What about Lakhimpur incident and why has the minister not been dismissed till now? We will have to understand that the government decided to change its decision only after recent surveys showed that it was slipping,” Congress general secretary Priyanka Gandhi Vadra said.
2. Humiliating Defeat in Civic Polls: The Bharatiya Janata Party’s debacle in the Punjab civic polls and Haryana by-elections are also said to be the reasons behind the government’s sudden change in mood. Owing to the farmers’ protest, the Congress party had registered a thumping victory in the Punjab civic polls that took place in February 2021. The grand old party had bagged six municipal corporations—Bathinda, Hoshiarpur, Kapurthala, Abohar, Batala, and Pathankot and had emerged as the largest party in the seventh—Moga.
3. Winter Session: It has been said that the decision to withdraw farm laws has been taken in the wake of the upcoming winter session, scheduled to begin on November 29. The last sessions of Parliament were almost washed out due to the relentless and vociferous protest by the United Opposition over the controversial laws and a slew of issues.
----https://www.india.com/news/india/explained-why-pm-modi-repealed-the-three-farm-laws-5102094/
Please share your views, Prasun Da, on all of a sudden, this came as bolt from blue for not only the supporters but also for the sections of the naysayers. Though again Politics is not my cup of tea and I'm least bothered about the ruling dispersions.
Prasun,
More good news!
Geo News: UAE signs whopping Rs6.84bn ammunitions contract with Pakistani firm.
https://www.geo.tv/latest/382960-uae-signs-whopping-rs684bn-ammunitions-contract-with-pakistani-firm
Our Ordnance Factories are most inefficient- product quality is not of NATO standard and cost is beyond any comparison. Pak and China both beat our defence production sector hollow.Only the life of the Indian soldier is so cheap that there is no accountability for these criminals with gold taps in their houses who manufacture shoddy items for their captive Indian armed forces customers!What devoted service towards the nation!Your opinion please!
Sirji,
1) Tejas Mk.1 has a pretty impressive weapons package. What more weapons need to be added to its arsenal and the Mk.1A variant.
2) Why was the superstructure changed between first two P 28 ship and the remaning ? What will they do with the follow on P 28A ?
3) Is there any plan to increase number of nuclear warheads with change in deterrence policy.
4) Never seen a country where taking back of reforms is celebrated and same people wish to attract companies/industry from china.
-Bhvk
Dear Sir, do you find that the GOI now a days is moving in the right direction in most of the matters regarding the defense. Kindly reply.
Sir, everyone is talking about the farm laws and feeling disappointed. I'm feeling disappointed and also a bit fearful at the same time because I think Modi is looking at possible clashes with China in the near future so he wanted to cool down things internally. Also, what the akal takht leader, basically the Pope of Sikhs said today is very important. He said attempts were being made to show it as a Sikh vs Indian State and Sikh vs Hindu fight and that it could have had implications for his community so now that the laws are being taken back he was feeling relieved.
Some would assume that he was talking about BJP IT cell, but he was referring to Khalistanis sitting abroad in all likelihood. I think it was becoming a national security issue so the government decided to retreat in national interest.
But if they have done this with eyes on elections then it's very unfortunate because a very bad precedent has been set today by bowing down to street thuggery.
Request you to address my question separately from others who are also asking about you on this development. Thanks.
How does the Shakti EW suite compare with western counterparts.
To JUST_CURIOUS: The main masts built with composites was just a one-off attempt by IN’s Naval Design Bureau. I future, more portions of the superstructure can be built with composites, as SAAB has shown in its brochure how this had been done with the Republic of Singapore Navy’s vessels.
To RAD: The KLJ-7 is nothing else but the EL/M-2021 MMR that came out much before the EL/M-2032 & EL/M-2035. Selex Galileo shared the Grifo’s source-codes with Pakistan for integrating the SD-10A BVRAAM with the JF-17’s weapons management computer & stores management system. The source-codes were obtained from Pakistan & were embedded into the weapons management computer in Italy, not anywhere else.
To PARTHASARATHI: The certified TBO of GE’s F404-IN-20 turbofan is 3,000 hours. The Tejas Mk.1’s airframe life is still certified at 3,000 flight-hours & the final figure will be available only a few years later as more time goes by the aircraft in IAF service. Ultimately, the airframe life should approach the 8,000 flight-hour figure.
To AP: Had already answered that several times before, since March 2020.
To RAGHU: Nothing new at all, since one of the main objectives of China’s BRI is to have a land transportation corridor that transits through Central Asia & Russia before ending up in Iran & Europe. But all this does not in any way clash with India’s projected North-South Trade Corridor.
To BHVK: 1) All the DRDO-developed PGMs. 2) To try to reduce the warship’s weight, since the Naval Design Bureau’s original estimations of the total displacement of the Project 28 ASW corvette were WRONGLY CALCULATED. 3) There always is, since the scenario is of a dynamic nature. 4) Nothing surprising at all & one will find such events occurring in those countries where the bulk of the labour force is dependent on agriculture for deriving financial incomes.
To RAJESH MISHRA: I wish I could agree with the GoI, but I don’t due to sound common-sense. For instance, what’s the use of fabricating components of BrahMos-1 in either Kerala or UP when the final-assembly line is in Telangana? Would it not have been better to locate such component-manufacturing facilities in Tamil Nadu? Why should propellants for BDL-built guided-missiles & PGMs be produced in UP when the defence-industrial corridor in Tamil Nadu is far closer to BDL’s fnal-assembly line in Hyderabad?
To SUMANTA NAG & KAPIL: Everything that needs to be done regarding agricultural reforms is explained here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZBKCNgWemc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG6o8jf3jzc
As I had stated before, even if policy initiatives are launched with the best of intentions, the adoption of terribly flawed implementation methodologies always leads to total disaster. But why all this gloom-n-doom? Instead, why not rejoice at all rtevelations made yesterday at Jhansi? For, instance: 1) Existence of the hitherto secretive Nano-LCH & Nano-UAVs that were officially handed over by India’s PM to the IAF & IA:
Nano-LCH: https://static.pib.gov.in/WriteReadData/Gallery/PhotoGallery/2021/Nov/H20211119104508.JPG
Nano-UAV: https://static.pib.gov.in/WriteReadData/Gallery/PhotoGallery/2021/Nov/H20211119104510.JPG
These nano-platforms, which will be manufactured in the UP defence-industrial corridor at specially configured production facilities equipped with electron microscopes, will have RCS figures that will make them totally invisible to hostile air-defence networks. In fact, this is the very reason why the Nano-LCH will have no need for electronic warfare suites & defensive countermeasures suites. The full-scale inferior versions of the Nano-LCH will be available only for export.
And why was only the Shakti EW suite was symbolically accept by the outgoing CNS of the IN? What happened to the Varuna ESM Suite & Nayan COMINT Suite?
Shakti EW Suite: https://static.pib.gov.in/WriteReadData/Gallery/PhotoGallery/2021/Nov/H20211119104509.JPG
Next, we come to the greatest example of Indian hypocricy, i.e. glorifying India’s past female warriors why presently shying away from inducting females as combatants into India’s armed forces.
Rani of Jhansi: https://static.pib.gov.in/WriteReadData/Gallery/PhotoGallery/2021/Nov/H20211119104505.JPG
https://static.pib.gov.in/WriteReadData/Gallery/PhotoGallery/2021/Nov/H20211119104504.JPG
And finally, we come to this Govt of India’s solution for increasing patriotism, i.e. creation of 100 new Sainik Schools & expanding the NCC—a solution which no other country in the world has bothered to adopt. And on the other hand, no money is being spent to reverse the ever-expanding phenomenon of ‘Ghost Villages’ close to the LAC in Uttarakhand, Ladakh & Himachal Pradesh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSAZg5seJ3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf2MqLsqPGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsjIPOi_XcU&t=37s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGAyxUbZRfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B44wiHtyN6w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sqpd0AVC4E
All of the above, dear Gentlemen, illustrates how ‘Nautankis’ & ‘Tamaashaas’ are being staged in the name of national security!!!
Prasun,
As I have already realized especially with the repeal of Farm laws, the present administration is only interested in utilizing all its strength and powers to hold on to power any which way it can least bothering about anything else cheap nautankis included!Wonder when will people understand all these cheap gimmicks are meant only to fool them and turn such brain washed entities into a herd mentality for ensuring that they vote in the manner so wished by the creators of such nautankis!What do you say?
Prasunda,
I personally feel that Mr Modi is expecting a Chinese advancement in summer. That's why he is trying to cool the things down internally.
At next skirmish with China IAF will take a lead role ! But there is no urgency from Government to order more Rafale ! When we are going to order second batch of Rafale ?
Best regards
Prasun,
1)Any Indian angle in the Israel UAE anti submarine deal?
2) Is the purchase of heavy weight torpedoes for the scorpenes and our SSN's being combined under a new purchase procedure?
hahaha, I always envy your willy-to-the-point sarcastic replies. Hence proved India is a leading player in nano technologies.
Prasun Da,
So, Chengdu FC - 1 Xiaolong (Pakistani Customised License Assembled by PAC, Kamra, JF - 17) has its root in Romanian cancelled IAR - 95 project. It was possible that after 1991 USSR Collapse, PRC having its free run through CAC(Chengdu Aircraft Corporation), acquired the IPR of the cancelled IAR - 95 from Avioane Craiova, Romania through financial deals. Since, it did not suite their purpose, they have decided to have to market it to developing world, through Pakistan, which desperately needed a low cost Fighter, but with western avionics. CPC decided to make the Frying Fish with its own oil.
https://hushkit.net/2021/11/18/the-pakistani-chinese-jf-17-fighter-aircraft-does-not-have-russian-origins-but-it-may-have-romanian-ones/
Btw, Dada, its neither doom or gloom for me, since, I am only an audience of the play being enacted.
Thanks for your reply.
Prasun da
What is the timeperiod of Mahabharata according to your remote viewing.
Another act is coming to surface; Open Air Sino - Pak nuclear ring:
https://www.msn.com/en-in/money/topstories/india-seizes-radioactive-substances-on-way-from-pakistan-to-karachi-at-mundra-port/ar-AAQTcP5
Prasun Da, Can not GoI counter PRC openly so that its credibility goes downwards in NSG ?
Thanks in advance.
UK moves 'Scrap Citzenship Without Notice' Bill naming 'Nationality and Borders Bill' in parliament.
https://www.dhakatribune.com/world/europe/2021/11/20/post-is-bride-shamima-chaos-uk-moves-bill-to-scrap-citizenship-sans-notice
Hard days will be ahead for the guys like Pannun.
Demo trials of 'Samudrayaan' Project is successful.
https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/tamil-nadu/2021/oct/30/demo-trials-of-samudrayaan-projecta-success-in-tamil-nadu-2377494.html
To THE INDIAN: 1) It is a simple equation, i.e. it takes two to tango, i.e. there should be conmen & there should be those who are ever willing to be taken for a ride. And when the two are available in plenty, then the stage is set for such grandiose ‘nautankis/tamaashas’. 2) No Indian angle at all since India has nothing extraordinary to offer. 3) The reqmt for HWTs was always a combined one for both SSKs & SSGNs.
To PARTHASARATHI: Here is one alarmist assessment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqSCKvqHLks
My assessment is Beijing will now move swiftly towards disengagement this year, followed by de-induction next year. However, de-escalation to pre April 2020 will not take place.
To SUMANTA NAG: No, that’s not true by any stretch of imagination, since the Grumman-designed Super-7/Super Sabre was ready by 1987 itself & was to remain the same until 1998. The only changes made by CAC were extended wingroots. Here are the images of the Super-7/Super Sabre as depicted by China’s CATIC:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZXDUXQXkAIlx4T.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/51o3qck.jpeg
https://preview.redd.it/7yhvcmh8yn641.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d2053be50f01fbe1816ea029aeac40fc3d6932e9
https://www.flightglobal.com/bidders-line-up-for-fc-1-super-7-avionics/24161.article
Gwadar Protests https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8iNJ4Rkhjk
Why Do British-Pakistanis Under-Achieve? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGDwDzYyfwE
Did India Really Lose the Peace After Winning the 1971 War? New Book By C. Dasgupta Shatters Myths:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Uov9sybmms
The truth is at last emerging in bits & pieces.
INS Vishakapatnam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdG4Zc9EqPY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukNcV8YQxTM
To DASHU: VMT. I forgot to mention that the Nano-HELINA’s development is almost complete & will soon be offered for the LCH.
so all that is awaited now is some form of nano-common sense to the pollies!
"Existence of the hitherto secretive Nano-LCH & Nano-UAVs that were officially handed over by India’s PM to the IAF & IA"- I thought you were serious at first. Upon questioning the manufacturer I was told these were mere models representing their actual product and has no combat function or role other than being placed in showcases.
Prasoon was.kidding..hahahahaha
Regards
Kunal
Prasun,
How true are the theories of khalistani threats being the reason for farm withdrawal? If true it is again a massive intel failure as always, we are caught napping. Why are the khalistani seperatists not listed as terrorists under UN sec council or with interpol.porkis, on the other hand have got pretty much all of the geniune baloch nationalists, pojk nationalists listed under interpol. also how come countries like Germany, Sweden, Canada are allowed to get away for providing a safe haven to ppl like these- esp who have a known history of being involved in terror activities like say the kanisha bombings and the Punjab unrest.clearly the west plays it as it suits them ...will the recent discussions with Canada put a lid on extremism emanating from canada, what abt UK, US germany & Nordic safe havens frm where they operate? Btw tye west has a history of harbouring fostering these anti social elements who they then try to pillar be it khameni to bin Laden and everybody in between.
To MILLARD KEYES: Even that will be hard to come by, rest assured.
To RAM JADHAV & KUNAL: Whether I was serious or kidding can be proven by this photo that was tweeted by RM Rajnath Singh himself:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEpgnXBUUAYErwt?format=jpg&name=medium
In that, one can see nothing atop the EL/M-2248 MF-STAR radar. So I guess the ESM/COMINT/EW suites sited there are all nano-suites.
To JUST_CURIOUS: Khalistan reached a dead-end a long time ago. All the troublemakers are OUTSIDE India & consequently they can only make trouble for the citizens of those countries in which they reside. They can’t do anything inside India, not even send money since all such digital transactions are tracked in real-time nowadays.
Prasun,
Can you enlighten us on what nuclear material was seized moving from Pakis to the Chinks?What is the objective behind the movement and the complete story on it?
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