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Saturday, July 9, 2022

Glimpses Of EAST TECH-2022 Expo Exhibits


HAL-SAFRAN JV

118 comments:

sasi said...

1)Astra-1/VL-sam has 15kg warhead, is it enough destroy incoming objects? Even barak-sr has 22kg....

2)any r&d by Drdo on thermobaric vaccuum bombs?

-Sasi

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Amarnath Cloudburst: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HUySflPKFo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEVTP4oyuzo

Looks like Lord Shiva is displaying anger against all the on-going political cockfights inside India WRT Goddess Kaali!

Primers on PoGB & PoJK Protests: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIb383uXaaE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFJwoXnrwyg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12dsRfLE8FM

Undercover In Guyana: Exposing Chinese Business in South America:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOOFSJqBYTY

Inside Atheist China: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgeXd13jO5M

Russia's KALINA Anti-Satellite DEW:

https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4416/1

The IA's Military College of Telecommunication Engineering (MCTE), the training institute of Corps of Signals, Indian Army, is planning to launch a small form factor student satellite with communications payload for training purpose as it needs to train its officers on various aspects of Space technology in general and about satellite communication in specific. Here is the RFI:

https://indianarmy.nic.in/writereaddata/RFI/846/MCTERFI070722.pdf

https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2022/jul/04/power-games-australia-may-not-accept-indias-g2g-trainer-deal-2472677.html

https://www.aviacionline.com/2022/07/f-16-vs-gripen-philippines-seeks-a-second-hand-upgraded-fighter/

just_curious said...

prasun ,

1-this is interesting .. why was this not much publicized ? anything new/interesting/innovative displayed?.. read bharatforge had a lot on display.. can you share some more pics/ content on the same

DAshu said...

Where did that Gotabaya go? CCP rescued him ?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To JUST_CURIOUS: Whatever new was on display is shown above. All exhibitors had only a single booth for their exhibits & hence no large-scale exhibits/product displays were present.

To DASHU: At anchorage on board SLNS Gajabahu within Sri Lanka's territorial waters. He is still reqd to administer the oath of office to the new all-party govt, since the Presidential form of govt still exists & cannot be done away with without parliamentary legislation.

Meanwhile, HAL has yet to upload its press-release, while SAFRAN has already done so:

https://www.safran-group.com/pressroom/safran-and-hal-develop-new-helicopter-engines-joint-venture-2022-07-11

https://www.safran-group.com/pressroom/safran-intensifie-sa-presence-son-empreinte-industrielle-inde-2022-07-06

So, it can now be confirmed that the HAL-developed IMRH will indeed be powered by non-Russian/non-US turboshaft engines. This is the likely powerplant:

https://pdf.aeroexpo.online/pdf/safran-helicopter-engines/aneto-1k/170453-15331.html#open48242

Incidentally, all such platforms--Dhruv ALH, LCH, LUH, IMRH, Tejas LCA, Tejas-AF Mk.2, TEDBF & AMCA--feature design/airworthiness standards based exclusively on NATO's STANAG standards. Not a single Russian GOST airworthiness standard has been adopted.

Lastly, here's this bizarre report:

https://theprint.in/diplomacy/us-consulate-wants-russian-ships-barred-from-mumbai-coast-shipping-ministry-asks-mea-to-weigh-in/1031290/

rad said...


HI prasun
how did turkey manage to integrate their desi missiles with the FCS of the f-16 ?Uncle sam is quite strict on that. Both air to air weapons seem to be a copy of the amraam and the aim-9x what is happening
it will be problem if it comes pak way on the f-16. will they surreptitiously do that without the permsissioN of the us ?
can we give greece some thing they will be scared off in return

Susan said...

Prasun Da,

Pakistan export of terrorism to western countries.

https://twitter.com/KyleWOrton/status/1546265926777061377

https://kyleorton.substack.com/p/a-lesson-the-west-ignored-from-77

just_curious said...

Prasun,
interesting read --https://idrw.org/america-needs-more-india-expertise-and-less-of-south-asia-analysis%ef%bf%bc/#more-288027 .. your views on US policies pls..

SUJOY MAJUMDAR said...

Prasun da, thanks for sharing all these images from East Tech expo.

Since the post is related eastern India, West Bengal govt. is planning to build a defence corridor in the state. Indian Army seems to be on board.

Given your experience what do you think the Bengal govt. need to do to attract investment in this defence corridor.

https://www.asianage.com/india/all-india/080722/wb-govt-plans-defence-corridor-with-land-sops-for-investment.html

Thanks, Sujoy

just_curious said...

- there is news about customized Makila 1B engine being ofFered for IMRH

rad said...


hi prsun
news reports say thatthe extra order for the p-8 has been shelved due to the fact that the drdo has made a MMMA suite > Is drdo taking india for a ride by promising some thing that is equal to the best in the world ?
WE have a desi aesa radar or even the israeli maritime aesa , what about the MAD, encrypted comms , data links , sonoboys. torpedoes , anti ship missiles etc and whatplat form do they propose to do that that has an equal range of the p-8?

just_curious said...

-wonder why india never attempted to extract rare earths from Myamnar -https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/opinion/china-needs-madagascar-afghanistan-to-save-its-rare-earth-empire-its-monopoly-is-in-danger/ar-AAZtBQD?li=AAggbRN

Anway said...

Sir,

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXdwMeUUcAEQZHP?format=jpg&name=large

Harsh said...

Sir, greetings

Whatever is given in this tweet is true or not?

https://twitter.com/INTELPSF/status/1546431297668751361?t=3lp-1oVo6lAXinfRlyJOuA&s=19

Does it mean it will get very difficult for IAF to operate?

Soumya Ray said...

Dear Prasun

1. How did this happen to Turkey? How come TUBITAK-SAGE convince Lockheed Martin for pylon interfacing of Gokdogan and Northrup Grumman for primary radar-BVRAAM integration, that too with blessings from Pentagon?

https://mobile.twitter.com/SageTubitak/status/1546518837801123842?cxt=HHwWhICw2Y2sq_YqAAAA

2. Can you share some information on developmental program & features of Turkey's Gokdogan BVRAAM and Bozdogan WVRAAM? Internet gives a lot of junk.

3. When I did a Google translate of the Twitter text, there was a phrase "infra-sight air-to-air missile". What does that mean?

4. How come their BVRAAM took first flight Apr'2021 & Jul'2022 - 6 years after development begin while our Astra 2 decades? यह क्या चमत्कारी बाबाजी की बूटी है?
https://www.dailysabah.com/business/defense/turkeys-air-to-air-missile-gokdogan-test-fired-with-radar-seeker

This is a serious case of indigestion for me for I was enjoying James Webb pics till this dropped as bolt from blue!!

Millard Keyes said...

Is drdo taking India for a ride by promising some thing that is equal to the best in the world ? Of course, if you follow their track record over the years. Vital military components and hardware were not acquired heeding to their go go gadget claims - never materialises of course. The entire bureaucracy in India with regards to defence needs overhauling. I mean RFI then evaluation then RFP then 3 years of evaluation and then then contract then procurement! By the time all this things happen India is 10 years behind. Somehow "slow and steady wins the race" psyche is so deeply entrenched in India that unless someone literally invades the country and almost wipes it from the face of the earth can they break out of such inertia.

KIDDO said...

Dear Prasun

Would really appreciate ur thoughts on this:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/china-will-challenge-us-in-our-port-and-beyond-says-top-marine

Applying the same premise in our case, how do u think we should respond in case of Chinese attacks on what US Marines Commandant has termed as "soft targets".

For instance: would attacks on Chinese shipping (Naval and/or civilian) in the IOR be a likely response in case of PLA attack on IA/IAF assets or infrastructure in Ladakh or Arunachal.

Or do u believe that is a major escalation that India would want to avoid

Thanks

just_curious said...

Prasun,

-3 intertesting articles
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2022/07/brazil-wants-indias-help-to-maintain.html - will this materialize?
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2022/07/isi-luring-nepal-military-officers-to.html -- any trut in this, if yes, how is IA countering it?
https://www.rediff.com/news/report/ex-maldivian-prez-negotiated-gotabayas-escape/20220713.htm -- the islamist jihadi helping gotyaba .. this may come back to bite us in the future...

AMIT BISWAS said...

Sincerely hope no one comes here to burn their fingers like tata....anyone setting up shop here means he/she remains busy in handling cut money demands

just_curious said...

Prasun,


--that wily b***d erdogan is playing all sides-- first he got all he wanted from NATO now playing ruskies.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_d23W2kqFg.. looks like nobody wants him out apart from the turks themselves.. will this embolden him for more anti india rhetoric?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To RAD: There are 2 types of MILSPEC software codes: source codes & object codes. While the former cannot be shared, the latter can be for weapons interfacing through new weapons inferface boxes & pylon-adapters. That’s what Turkey has done. The MMMA is for maritime patrol only & not for ASW, as revealed by these slides:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OYCDcFV3oYM/XGvK54RDqvI/AAAAAAAAQok/N-pdlpfm7WYt991cCY7fGL9UGQ7iW7DAgCLcBGAs/s1600/CABS-Designed%2BC-295%2BMPA%2BProposal%2Bfor%2BIndonesia.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ml8DG36alAA/XkIFE0xHyeI/AAAAAAAASi0/FbS98-mAvr0GcPrXigavFnnLqYuKDml0gCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/CABS%2BProposal%2Bfor%2BC-295%2BMMMA-1.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VS4Tzemnp94/XkIFHOjwfRI/AAAAAAAASi8/3K7OPP31TNQZUd8Fvh4xr_XaRSKYI3LQACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/CABS%2BProposal%2Bfor%2BC-295%2BMMMA-2.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NoR1zDbZ4q4/Xj0tda2xajI/AAAAAAAASdQ/2lLvmy3vxO0yT1CgLMdsmYZKNMWTuJbVgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/DSC00768.jpg

What Boeing has proposed is that the DRDO’s mission management system & search radars that have been developed for its proposed MMMA can easily be integrated with the P-8I airframe. Further technical negotiations are now underway, following which the order for 6 additional P-8Is will be placed. In addition, the MMMA systems developed by the DRDO can also be installed on a Coast Guard variant of the P-8I & if such a common-sensical approach is adopted, then the combined strength of LRMR/ASW & MMMA variants of the P-8Is in India will reach the 35-unit mark. That, to me, will be an ideal win-win solution.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ANUP: Air India’s deal with Airbus is between two private-sector parties & hence no industrial offsets of any kind or G-to-G agreement of any kind is possible.

To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: Historically, WB had been a hub for defence production, given the existence of GRSE, OFB Ishapore & IAF MRO at Barrackpore & now Titagarh Wagons. This by itself is quite sizeable & can be scaled up further by establishing new MRO facilities to service the in-service military hardware now being used by the IAF & IA Eastern Commands.

To JUST_CURIOUS: It is the SAFRAN/Turbomeca ANETO-1K engine.

Afghanistan’s Aynak Copper Mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv-OIvEsHUM

To ANWAY: That photo was taken from this TV programme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dSfrpSPCIM

It is the armoured vehicle meant for carrying Kalyani’s 155mm/39-cal ultralightweight howitzer.

To HARSH: LoLz! It is all futile daydreaming by nitwits. This is the grim reality:

Pakistan’s Economic Meltdown Explained:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxu1xJE2UQo&t=461s

Being a national security state, all policy-making in Pakistan have always been securitised affairs. The downward slide began since 1990 when foreign economic & military assistance ceased till 2002 & again in 2014. Since then, in addition to the aspiration of seeking strategic parity with India, Pakistan has also had to contend with the prospect of building strategic deterrence against Iran & securing the Durand Line. Sound common-sense dictates that adopting such postures is unsustainable even in the medium-term & as a consequence, economic meltdown is a strategic inevitability. That in turn raises the question of whether the West will now insist on Pakistan’s denuclearisation through financial compellance. For India, the principal concern is the steadily worsening situation inside PoJK & PoGB, i.e. the increasing economic deprivation there is most likely to lead to increased calls for a merger with the UTs of J & K and Ladakh. If that will happen, then that might explain why India as a precautionary measure has decided to restrict the export of wheat & wheat-flour last month. Therefore, I see interesting times ahead.

To SOUMYA RAY: 1) It is possible by using OBJECT CODES, as I have explained above. 2 & 4) The imagery of Turkey’s homegrown BVRAAM & SRAAM indicate that technological assistance has come from South Africa’s DENEL Aerospace. 3) It means SRAAM.

To KIDDO: Rest assured that it is an over-blown assessment & is not achievable in the r4eal world.

To AMIT BISWAS: Interesting read:

https://theprint.in/features/kolkata-is-indias-newest-biggest-scam-zone-police-youtubers-mice-cant-shut-it-down/1035160/

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To MILLARD KEYES: This interview of Baba Kalyani explains it all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dSfrpSPCIM

Poor Babasaheb was needlessly given the run-around by the MoD, due to which he had to re-invent the wheel by spending money on Switzerland-based RUAG AG, which 15 years ago held the IPRs for the 155mm/45-cal towed howitzer originally developed by the late Dr Gerry Bull in the early 1980s for China’s NORINCO. This then became the Bharat-45 & then morphed into the Bharat-52 by 2016. All this merry-go-round & financial wastage could easily been avoided had the MoD shared with the Kalyani Group all the IPRs of the Bofors FH-77B that were in OFB’s custody. Both Kalyani Group & OFB could easily have collaborated 20 years ago to series-produce the Dhanush-45, followed by the ATAGS whose baseline design is that of the FH-77B. The good news is that Kalyani is now cooperating with NAMMO to co-develop ramjet-powered 155mm projectiles:

Nammo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vIPNElDkns&t=61s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J0XwLYmAc0

Boeing’s RAMJET 155: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEi9xJQbXak

The same is the case with MALE-UAS platforms. Given the vast geographic distances to be covered by them in the Indian context, it is evident that what India requires more are not MALEUAVs driven by rotax engines (like Heron-1 or Hermes-900), but both MALE & HALE UAS platforms powered by turbofans. Here again, HAL could have joined forces with Rolls-Royce to jointly produce Adour 871 turbofans meant for both such UAS platforms as well as for re-engining the Jaguar IS interdictor/strike aircraft.

https://hal-india.co.in/Product_Details.aspx?Mkey=54&lKey=&CKey=28

Anway said...

Sir.

Hope it's fake news.

https://t.co/qH7RtLUJNp

Black box said...

Hi Prasun,
Since reihnmetal has shown prototype of its mtb kf51 , will it fit in army’s fmbt competition or is armata the only contender.
Is the mbt kf51 really good as shown .
Thanks

rad said...

HI Prasun

now it is confirmed that the super su-30 program has become a flop due to the embargo.
Is it becasue that some prcessors used on the aesa radar are US?

if so, are there russina processors that can be replaced intsead. ?

now what do we do? of course fan boys want the bigger version of uttam.


dop you think 20 mill$ per ac is expensive?

Harsh said...

When will AKASH-NG enter production?

Susan said...

Prasun Da,

Myanmar will send back our Torpedo or sell it to China.

https://twitter.com/thewarzonewire/status/1547754610000990213

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/indian-made-torpedo-found-washed-up-on-a-beach-in-myanmar

Raghu said...

Hi

The following interview is interesting. Khanna says Indian brains went into helping improve the Su-57. How true is this?
And in what direction is Indo US cooperation is likely to progress, in AI, cybersecurity and the like going forward, give our balancing act with Russia and moves to shield Indo Russian trade from US sanctions?

How far are we likely to co-operate with the US in strategic matters?

Regards
Raghu

Raghu said...

Hi

Sorry, did not post the Ro Khanna interview link

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/ht-interview-amendment-will-expedite-caatsa-waiver-shows-white-house-politically-safe-to-give-it-says-u-s-congressman-ro-khanna-101657905126653-amp.html

Regards
Raghu

Raghu said...

Hi Prasun

Would like to know your views on the following

https://wap.business-standard.com/article-amp/current-affairs/india-s-military-no-match-for-china-s-ai-backed-war-machines-opines-expert-122071600235_1.html

The author advises reconciliation with China and Pakistan instead of confrontation.

Regards

Raghu

just_curious said...

Prasun,
whatever happened to Hal NRUAV, is he program closed can't it be developed as a weaponized platform for the coast guard/BSF/CRPF along with DRDO RUAV?

just_curious said...

You mentioned Bharat forge's collab for NAMMO, whatever happened to the IIT M hypersonic projectile? why not encourage it & develop it?

Soumya Ray said...

Dear Prasun

2 types of MILSPEC software codes: source codes & object codes........the latter can be for weapons interfacing through new weapons inferface boxes & pylon-adapters.... That's how Turkey has done..

1. Does weapons interfacing either via source code or object code impact BVRAAM performance & data-link?
2. Is there a cost factor in play for weapon interfacing via source & object code?

Regards :)

rad said...


HI prsun
how does the lca mk2 fare aginst the gripen e version the so called net centric and the best ew protected fighter. I n what areas they are better?
it seems to the common man that they are more or less equal. BUt i have my doubts?

just_curious said...

Prasun,

one more IN sub retired.. what is MoD/IN planning to do with P75I going no where

Parthasarathi said...

Prasunda,
As per Euroasianews India is going to buy F18 for Navy. How far it's true ?
If yes then would it be able to fire air Launched Brahmos ? Considering the source code now with us.
Regards

kaushik said...

Hello Sir,
1. what are those new antenna on su 30 mki? here it says it is for new bnet sdr radios.
https://twitter.com/raflanker/status/1549254760544382977?s=20&t=2F9ZMS24fIodsk8Dt-bUjw
2. Is the super sukhoi upgrade delayed?
3. Why till not the dual pulse astra mk2 missile has not been tested?

just_curious said...

prasun,

what is this about --https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-Mf2ZvF-1E??

Raghu said...

Hi Prasun

The following report refers to a heavy lift helicopter and diesel engines. We are not even half way through with the medium lift helicopter design. Who will take this forward, the private sector?

https://m.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/india-to-make-diesel-engines-for-ships-413614

Also, do we have the core technology for designing and developing marine diesel engines?

Regards

Raghu

rad said...


HI Prasun
there is a pic pointed out by another member kaushik that show derby missiles on a su-30 mki ?? i dont understand?

Chanakya Chatterjee said...

Dada , kothay?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ANWAY & RAD: It is FAKE NEWS.

To BLACK BOX: The IA’s FMBT & FICV will both be indigenously designed & built.

To HARSH: Not before 2024.

To SUSAN: That is a Myanmar-owned LWT. Read this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXjLywNVEAEKg64?format=jpg&name=large

To RAGHU: The Su-57 was already fully developed by the time India via HAL acquired a financial stake in the project. As for China’s AI prowess, matters are not what they are being made out to be in India. Here is the reality:

https://cset.georgetown.edu/publication/silicon-twist/?utm_source=Center+for+Security+and+Emerging+Technology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOso6ZZjHew&t=49s

And here’s Boeing’s statement released yesterday WRT F/A-18 Super Hornet’s sales prospects in India:

https://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-releases-statements?item=131106

The fact that Boeing has released such data & images while Dassault Aviation has not is enough indication of Boeing’s confidence in bagging the IN contract.

To JUST_CURIOUS: NRUAV was buried a long time ago, back in 2008 itself. IIT-M is decades behind NAMMO when it comes to developing ramjet-powered 155mm projectiles.

To SOUMYA RAY: 1 & 2) Yes.

To RAD: On paper, the Tejas-AF Mk.2 MWF compares favourably, but the Gripen-NG houses SATCOM data-links that the MWF does not as yet.

To PARTHASARATHI: Here’s Boeing’s statement released yesterday WRT F/A-18 Super Hornet’s sales prospects in India:

https://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-releases-statements?item=131106

The fact that Boeing has released such data & images while Dassault Aviation has not is enough indication of Boeing’s confidence in bagging the IN contract. Super Hornet can fire the projected BrahMos-NG, not the BrahMos-A.

To KAUSHIK & RAD: It is FAKE NEWS & the image is photoshopped.

To RAGHU: Kirloskar can make marine diesel engines if it wants to.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

KF-21 Boramae Maiden Flight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W11q_Q4O_BI

Why Are More Indians Giving Up Citizenship? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVYXwft8v0E&t=32s

Iron Beam DEW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1frHtUEqd4E

Millard Keyes said...

Isn't it sheer madness to keep buying different platforms when it is so much cost effective and efficient to use the same platform such as the Rafale? Whether naval or land based the plane itself is identical except for a few mods specific to maritime operations. Now if F/A 18 is bought that would add yet another financial burden having to set up everything to cater for such a new platform!

Parthasarathi said...

Prasunda,
Many thanks for answering my query. Now is it possible to convert V22 to Mini Awacs ? If possible then we should consider it for our carriers! Though it's possible to fold her wings but how big V22 is not known to me.
In case not fitting in lift can it be parked on deck ?
Best regards

Soumya Ray said...

Dear Prasun

1. What would be the probable fate of MiG-29Ks & KUBs if Indian Navy receives a green light from MoD for procuring either F/A-18 Super Hornet or Rafale-M?
2. Could you explain how the performance of BVRAAM is impacted if interfaced via source code & object code?
3. What is the possible compulsion of IN
& MoD for consenting to this MRCBF program and not going for early zero-lifing/upgrading of MiG-29Ks? Why wasn't it even explored?
4. What is the underlying motive & endgoal of MRCBF? Is it really force augmentation?

Thanks & Regards 🙂

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To PARTHASARATHI: Bell-Boeing had already conducted detailed studies on the V-22 Osprey's AEW & CS variant 2 decades ago:

http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2012/07/p-8i-programme-status-briefing-slides.html

Indrajit said...

Prasun da, I don't know about other countries but to get citizenship in US one first has to get a green card (which is a lengthy process) and then spend 10 years finally to get citizenship. So this is not due any recent change. Whoever is giving up citizenship now had started the process 15 years back.

buddha said...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jGYJvAbcOQg
In the era of SAM is this viable option for china...
For special force may be effective..But not for regular ...Your thought..
Is Indian Navy going for F18 super Hornet
...
When deal of 30 US predator Drone going to be signed..
Scorpion class submarine still lacks the projected torpedoes..Is any positive news on this area..
What will be possible result of Russia Ukraine conflict..And america seems to be more interested in sending arms rather than talk and peaceful sollution in Europe..
Lastly Indian CDS conundrum is going long..

Anonymous said...

1. Has Pakistan reached the brink?

2. Any equivalent of Turkish HAVA-SOJ for IAF? (Bcoz Pakis will surely induct the HAVA-SOJ in near future)

rad said...


HI Prasun
its increasingly evident thathte f-18 e will be selected for the navy. now will the US allow the integration of brahmos ng or astr and otyher desi weapons?
do we have any answer or defence against gps guided MLRS from chin athat can hit targets 500km awway?
it sure will be a mass fire assault on our air bases and oither targets how do we curatail that?.

Pratap said...

Prasun Da, could the possible acquisition of the Super Hornet influence the MRFA deal? F-15, F-16, Mig-35, Su-35, Gripen and Typhoon don't stand a chance. So it's basically Rafale vs F-18. Dassault had an advantage in terms of cost and repair and overhaul since we already have 36 Rafales. But that could change with Navy opting for the F-18. The fact that Tejas MWF will use the same engine could also work for Boeing. In that scenario it will be a difficult choice to make. Which one among the two is the preferred option?

Nikhil M said...

Dear Sir

1. I have gone through the answer you posted to Mr. Raghu's question on the following topic. But what do you think regarding India's current position vis a vis concerns raised in the following videos? PLA has started taking substantial steps in these domains. But where are we? Can Western block help us in bettering PLA in these domains?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YGfipb1BdE&list=WL&index=5&t=1s

2. What do you make out of China positioning PHL-16 near LAC? Are we vulnerable? Should we also think of buying MGM 140 ATACMS from the US? In my opinion Brahmos is just too expensive to use as counter for PHL-16

Regards
Nikhil

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

1) Should'nt the correct counter to the PHL-16 be the induction of Prahaar (even conventional variants) ?

2) Has the Prahaar been inducted in service ? What about conventional variants ? Was this done without orders being publicly placed as was the case for the Pinaka ?

3) Has the Tochka-U often been shot down by regular Russian air defences in the current Ukraine conflict ?

4) If 'yes' to 3), dose'nt the Prithvi I/II have the same vulnerability as well ?

5) When will orders for guided Pinaka/ further Pinaka regiments (beyond the 4 in service and 6 recently ordered) be placed ?

Kritavarma

Satya said...

Prasun sir, would you like to say something about the current economic meltdown in Pakistan and whether it offers any opportunity to India with respect to POK? Will the collapse finally happen, or will the jihadist state get away again by using the gun-to-its-head policy? Pakistani politicians and commentators are already using nuclear weapons as a blackmail by telling the West, "Look, we have nuclear weapons, give us the money, or else...." What about Saudi and Chinese financial assistance? We have been waiting for this for years. Please enlighten us about how the situation will play out and what India can do if the opportunity finally arrives.

Regards

Parthasarathi said...

Prasunda,
There is a news that Derby ER is fired by Sukhoi ! How it's possible? How Israel got the source code?
Secondly why Navy is insisting on a 4 th generation fighter ( TEDBF ) when AMCA is getting ready.
I personally feel that AMCA should use GE414 engine for AMCA as we are familiar with it and GE has offered some kind of coproduction.
We should concentrate fully on AMCA.
Your opinion please.

Anonymous said...

Any update on what will be the outcome of the Russia-Ukraine conflict? How long will it drag on? Is Russia that much weaker/vulnerable what the western media is claiming? What’s the end goal from Russian side, what’s their best and worst case scenarios?
Thanks and regards
D

Anonymous said...

MoD has decided to make 4+ lakh carbines in India .
1. Have the models been chosen ?
2. These must be for support troops like artillery, armored corps, ASC etc right?

regards
Venky

Parthasarathi said...

Prasunda,
It seems Turkey is slowly but surely is becoming a new France in defence market. Their products are cheap but effective. Particularly in Drone technology they are superpower.
Why India can't follow Turkey's footstep and modernize our private defense Industry. I am sure LNT can built a corvette which much more modern than MILGEM. But they will not get a chance.
What India need is Harpoon and Barak 8 equipped Corvette for coastal defence so that frigates and destroyers can be sent to high seas. Frigates and Destroyers can be made by government shipyards and corvette and minesweeper by private shipyards.
Best regards

VIKRAM GUHA said...

Prasun Da,

Some news channels are reporting that the U.S will offer the F-35 to the Indian Air Force since the IAF is planning to acquire 114 fighter aircraft. Is this true? If yes, do you think India will accept the F-35?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFvUKqAwCio

Thanks,
VIKRAM

kaushik said...

Hello Sir,
1. Acc. to this report India has only 160 nuclear weapons. how true is that? also it says our weapons are all 40kt. https://thebulletin.org/premium/2022-07/nuclear-notebook-how-many-nuclear-weapons-does-india-have-in-2022/
2. why only 3 S5 ssbn are planned to be build ?
3. Will the deal for 30 predator drones be signed this year?
4. Also I am not able to comment from my smartphone.

Anonymous said...

Sir,

https://indiachina.substack.com/p/the-new-normal-in-india-china-relations?r=fmq&utm_medium=ios

I am unable to comment from my mobile.

Regards
Anup

Anonymous said...

Yesterday DAC approved a marine gas turbine for naval ships. Which one is it ?
Regards
Venky

Anonymous said...

Hello, What are option for IN navy for P75i and design own diesel powered submarine? Can’t a tech tie up for barracuda be done as it can be used for both SSN and diesel submarine with 80% common parts. AIP when is approved for scorpene sub can be used for barracuda ??

Chanakya Chatterjee said...

What quiet strategic khichdi is being cooked due to which all prominent defense analysts have gone silent, including you ... Prasunda what's keeping you so busy and away from your blog ?

Raghu said...

Hi Prasun,

Why was CAATSA actually waived in India's case. The following report seems to suggest a transactional relationship with India opting for F-18s for the IAF tender. Can this be true?

https://m.thewire.in/article/diplomacy/how-does-the-sanction-waiver-to-india-aid-us-strategic-interests/amp

Also the End user monitoring system seems quite tight and rigid. Perhaps we should eschew opting for critical systems from the US and instead look towards France and Israel for the same.

Would like to know your views on the above.

Regards
Raghu

Anonymous said...

Sir,

Looks like DRDO back in action.

https://twitter.com/Sandeep_Mave/status/1552678687442497539?t=thnokwnnf77Rebv1fiZ9Vg&s=19

Regards
Anup

Anonymous said...

Sir,
Another MIG21 lost. We lost 2 pilots.

https://twitter.com/IAF_MCC/status/1552705784190214144?t=MqMuqe3sPZNK73LmNjtc6w&s=19

Regards
Anup

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

https://twitter.com/daeroplate_v2/status/1552650769614090240?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

How true is the claim in this twitter thread that PLAAF has 10 airbases within reach of Leh, allowing them to outnumber IAF over eastern Ladakh ?

Satyaki

just_curious said...

Prasun,

IN has commited to 45 TEDBF in batch 1, time for IAF to join the bandwangen? MRFA- 54 Rafales+ 60+ ORCA's.. if TEDBF will become a reality then why th hulaboo about rafale -M /F 18?

DAshu said...

What an epic fall of the erstwhile super power USA!!!
-1 Could you please explain why the gossip of Pelosi's future visit to Taiwan started when eventually POTUS reiterated its regular statement of "US policy has not changed" regarding one-china to Xi?

-2 Did the begging of POTUS to Saudi worked as I can see the gas price falling blow $4 now?

-3 Do you agree that Russia has achieved its goals regarding Ukraine war now?

Enlighten us about behind the curtain info please.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To DASHU: Here are 2 primers on what's happening 'behind-the-scenes':

World According to China https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShfgNtUulzk

World of China’s President Xi Jinping https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DKIQpu4hhQ

To CHANAKYA CHATTERJEE: I can't speak for others, but I have been busy with some ISR taskings along the LAC as this is the peak of any campaign season inside TAR & therefore requires lots of persistent ISR monitoring.

To JUST_CURIOUS: Verbal commitment to 45 'desi' TEDBF amounts to nothing unless project funding for R & D is released & so far that has not happened.

To SATYAKI: There are countless internet fanboys spreading such falsehoods.

To RAGHU: It is entirely true. To come in future are follow-on orders for AH-54E Apache attack helicopters, CH-47F Chinooks, MH-60R Seahawks & six P-8I LRMR/ASW aircraft.

Anup said...

Sir,
Please explain physics behind this. I think ADA must keep this in mind for TEDBF and AMCA.

https://youtu.be/watch?v=QubD5ezi8Hw

Regards
Anup

Anonymous said...

Hi prasoon..there is news that teajs will be indicted in large numbers for replacing mig 21 aircrafts by 2025..is tejas good enough for this task?what will be its tactical utility in the iaf given it lacks critical systems

Regards

Kunal

Raghu said...

Hi Prasun

Even assuming that the defence equipment purchase from the US is a transactional relationship, should we not restrict that to equipment that will help to counter China? I really don't see how buying F-18s for the IAF will as the US would keep a check on how it is used, especially against Pakistan, which is where we need it.

Should we not restrict the purchases to weapons which will help to counter the Chinese Navy and perhaps something to counter the Chinese along LAC?

Seriously, how badly can application of CAATSA hurt us? Can you give some examples? And how can we counter it?

Regards

Raghu

Raghu said...

Hi Prasun,

This is interesting

https://m.economictimes.com/industry/indl-goods/svs/metals-mining/russia-for-mkts-connectivity-infra-links-with-india-oleg-deripaska-russian-aluminium-tycoon/amp_articleshow/93261571.cms

How far are we likely to take thile relationship with Russia forward, given the current circumstances? Is it likely to come down or will trade increase? The above link offers some very interesting options.

And if we increase trade with Russia, how is the US likely to react?

What are the implications of the Russia Ukraine war on India with regard to China given that Russia is pivoting towards the east. It's an angle not many commentators have explored. What are the possibilities since we have representation in SCO, BRICS etc. Iran too has good relations with India, China and Russia. New states applying for BRICS membership. Is a closer relationship between Eusrasian states likely?

Regards

Raghu

rad said...

hi prasun
ISR tasking ? are u really on the border physically?. congrats then as the GOI and the Army has certainly recocgnised u to do that. So i hope they will take u seriously on other issues that u put out on this blog and elsewhere.can u tell us more on that at least the unclassified stuff.
I wonder what happened to truck mounted ak 630 with the desi aesa uttam acting as a fire control radar ?.
how is the chinese copy of the f-35 doing in carrier trials and whatare the possibilities for it to be given to pak. I here that they have finally a working engine for that?

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

1.https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/YUAN-WANG-5-IMO-9413054-MMSI-413289000

Prasun Da will Chinese Missile Tracking Vessel's presence in Humbantota, affect the schedule of India's test firing of Long Range Missiles including SLBMs ?

2. https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/why-likely-1-bn-french-deal-is-a-reminder-of-india-s-failure-to-build-indigenous-jet-engine/ar-AAYfftF

"The Kaveri project has helped us master several critical technology domains and, because of this project, the ecosystem exists within the country for design, development, manufacture, assembly, testing and qualification of indigenous 80-kN class of engines,” a senior DRDO official told ThePrint."

--If so, why not the Government allow the Private Organisations as well as HAL to tie up with the Foreign Players like Embraer, Boeing, Airbus, Ilyushin to design regional airliner to cater Domestic market as well as South Asian Region powered by those engine, so that the effort could not go waste and also economical, the technology can be transferred to the capable PSU and Private Player (Indian)s.

3. Can not India acquire a Flying Test Bed (FTB) for its experimental engine test programme ? Is there a plan to that effect ? Can not French or Russian help be taken to convert any existing airframe of Ilyushin IL - 76 or Airbus, that is existing in the inventory of AIR India or IAF ?

Please share your views.

Anonymous said...

Sir,

One of the best article. Hope you reply.
https://kaypius.com/2022/08/01/barmer-mig-21-crash-mods-apathy-or-iafs-defensive-posture/

Regards
Anup

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

VMT. Is the presence of the Chinese Yuanwang 5 tracking ship in Sri Lanka (Aug 11-17) and its subsequent stay in the Indian Ocean meant to prevent/deter India from conducting BM tests by being present to track parameters/sensitive data about any such test by India ?

Satyaki.

Raghu said...

Hi Prasun

Apparently the Taliban realising what you had stated here a while ago

https://www.news18.com/amp/news/world/exclusive-afghanistan-needs-indias-help-desperately-to-secure-peaceful-environment-taliban-interior-minister-haqqani-5670295.html

India seems to be the only country that can help Afghanistan at ground level, in grass root development

Regards
Raghu

Anonymous said...

Hi prasoon..with nancy pelosi visiting taiwan..what possoble retaliation can china do?

Regards

Kunal

joydeep ghosh said...

@prasun da

i think selecting FA18 over RafaleM will be a bad error in judgment for the Indian Navy to replace the Mig 29k as once TEDBF arrives these jets will become access and useless whereas if RafaleM is chosen after TEDBF arrives it can be used by IAF minus the tailhook, and with reinforced chassis and mid section those RafaleM can carry the 2.5 tonm Brahmos A in addition to 42 Sukhoi30 mki. so I think RAafale M is the best buy

thanks
Joydee[p Ghosh

KIDDO said...

Hello Prasun
Based on ur analysis of almost 6 months of the Ukraine War, what are ur biggest takeaways so far in terms of Military Hardware and Weapons.

I would specifically like to hear ur thoughts on what sort of lessons we can draw in the China context. For instance where do we seem to be lacking the most (and would be at a serious disadvantage vis a vis the Chinese):
1. Rocket artillery?
2. Mobile Gun systems?
3. PGMs?
4. Air and Ground based ISR?
5. EW and Comms systems?

Also whats the Govts plans for addressing these in an effective manner??

Thanks

Amit Biswas said...

Only rafel are somewhat good rest are not upto the mark who uses mig 21 in 2022 even soviet countries stopped using it mig 29 is less about fighting more about bhai bas crash land mat karna ijjat rakhna bhai please miraj 2000 is somewhat good tejas is kinda retarded kid who is loved by his rich parents because he is the only child they have india should improve their squadron before they get a vibe check

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwA4m2b4b-0

Raghu said...

Hi

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/national/defence-ministry-to-unveil-atmanirbhar-bharat-ii-for-indigenous-production-of-core-technologies/article65716952.ece/amp/

How long is it likely to take to fully indigenize marine diesels of higher power? Is PPP model an efficient one to produce the desired results?

Regards

Raghu

Ashish Gautam said...

Hello prasun sir, how r u doing these days? U so much busy in ISR works these days, blog ko time he nahi de pa rahe aap...
Sir few questions:
1) what's your opinion on works being done by cl!nton c@bal and their associated people to destabilize and create civil unrest in India esp before 2024 elections??
2) in your opinion do u think M0di may attempt to annex P0J&K n GB before 2024 elections to turn tide in his favour??
3) could u provide any info on what they gonna put on DRDO -L&T light tank in terms of firepower and defensive systems? Powerpack too
4) FOC variant of LCH N LUH kab tak ayenge? N what gonna be their upgrades in them? Apache type mmw radar?
5) why IAF & IN are not going ahead with joint funding n development of AMCA naval aircraft as their next dual engine combat aircraft instead of going for TEDBF n AMCA 2 totally separate projects?? AMCA naval & subsequent air force version based on it just like Rafale can solve problems of both force's and will be more cost effective considering economy of scale and future export opportunities.

AMIT BISWAS said...

Definitely a bot..this one prasun sir

DAshu said...

After Ukraine, is it Taiwans turn to surrender ?

Anonymous said...

Good Evening Sir,

Why does Mr Rahul Gandhi term " How AI Will Shape India’s Final Showdown with China, Pravin Sawhney, " as a must read .

Regards
Ash

Millard Keyes said...

Whom did Ukraine surrender to? They did sacrifice their sovereignty by selling out to the US since 2014 but never heard of them surrendering to Russia.

joydeep ghosh said...

@prasun da

http://idrw.org/iaf-has-plans-to-procure-tu-160-blackjack-from-russia-defence-analyst/

am i reading this correct?

thanks

Joydeep ghosh

Anonymous said...

@Prasunda
Tu-160 to be inducted into SFC?

Regards,
Abs

AMIT BISWAS said...

Can you share some snippets about the hyped ISRO Spy scandal

just_curious said...

Prasun

http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2022/08/india-pakistan-backchannel-talks-hit.html--Its p0lain insult to all those ppl & their families who have been victims of terror attacks. Shameful is the least we can say..

just_curious said...

Prasun,

why is IN pushing for AIP incorporated P75I instead of additional scorpenes with new features when they have already created the indigenous AIP system ?

pimpale said...

Hi prashn
Kindly Reply to questions ...We waiting for your response since 1st August....!!!

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To JUST_CURIOUS: That’s because the IN wants a proven & in-service AIP module so that there are no future fatal disasters involving its SSKs. The MAREEM AIP module needs to be tested in sea-trials involving an in-service single-hulled Scorpene SSK & only after it demonstrates its safety features & functionality at-sea can the MAREEM be service-inducted. This AIP module cannot be tested on-board any double-hulled SSK like the Type 877EKM.

To AMIT BISWAS: The so-called ‘spying’ scandal was nothing else but a deliberate & successful CIA-initiated disinformation campaign in order to sabotage & terminate the India-Russia industrial collaboration aimed at developing an India-specific cryogenic engine. At the same time, most of the claims now being made by Dr Nambinarayan about ISRO’s missed opportunities are spectacularly outrageous, to say the least. Folks like him are not ‘scientists’, but just engineers. To date, how many patents have been filed by such folks for their discoveries? Exactly what ground-breaking discoveries have they made? Instead, all they do is study the expired IPRs & patents of the 1960s & 1970s & try to engineer them. Kindly read this as well:

https://english.mathrubhumi.com/features/specials/nambi-narayanan-s-claims-in-rocketry-are-utter-lies-sasikumar-isro-espionage-case-1.7773941

To ABS & JOYDEEP GHOSH: LoLz! This is how news get spinned over in India! In reality, all that Ret’d ACM Arup Raha had stated was: “We need a bomber squadron…especially for the air vector of the Strategic Forces Command (SFC).” Nothing else was stated in terms of the type of platform to be acquired. Nor can such platforms be leased, as some internet fanboys are assuming. That’s because any leased platform, be it a bomber or a nuclear-powered submarine, can only be used for peacetime training & not in times of war. That the IAF is reqd to operate a dedicated supersonic bomber squadron under the SFC’s command & control is beyond doubt, since such a platform without aerial refuelling can fly over vast distances at low-level & launch LACMs or air-delivered nuclear munitions (like hypersonic missiles or subsonic air-ALCMs. On the other hand, Russia will not be able to spare any of its Tu-160s or Tu-22M3s for India, rest assured, due to their availability in very limited numbers for Russia’s own use. So, what then are India’s other options? One is to to modify the Su-30MKI to carry air-delivered 800km-range missiles like an air-launched variant of Pralay. The other is to develop a variant of Pralay that can carry & launch the Zircon/BrahMos-2 hypersonic weapon.

To ASH: Why? I have no idea since I have never communicated with Mr Rahul Gandhi in any manner to date & so I can’t answer on his behalf & you will therefore have to contact Mr Rahul Gandhi & ask him for his reasons. All that I can say is that China’s AI-related activities & advances are terribly over-stated by & large by many, since China does not possess the microchips like GPUS, ASICS & FPGAS that’s reqd for cutting-edge AI applications. Furthermore, most of China’s AI-based R & D effort is meant for developing surveillance networks for domestic internal security-related applications like the social security net. But even for less advanced applications, China is facing severe shortcomings, as revealed here:

https://www.news18.com/news/world/xi-cracked-down-on-semiconductor-sector-bigwigs-as-they-failed-to-meet-aims-wasted-billions-5719609.html

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ASHISH GAUTAM: 1) LoLz! Why should the Clinton cabal’s services be reqd when there are several ‘desi’ cabals already doing a good job? 2) It is not about when India will annex PoJK, but when PoJK will become the low-hanging fruit to fall into India’s lap. 3) LoLz! The existing T-90S itself is a light MBT when compared to the Arjun Mk.1A MBT. 4) Let’s see the LSP variants of the LCH first. MMW radar-equipped LCHs are a long way away. 5) Obviously because the IAF & IN have still not absorbed the merits of joint warfighting!

To RAGHU: LoLz! Marine diesel engines are available by the dozens for co-production with foreign OEMs. But for gas turbines, the only option now is to import them & these are the ones to be ordered in future:

https://www.gepowerconversion.com/news/BHEL-signs-MoU-with-GE-Power-Conversion-for-development-of-Integrated-Electric-Propulsion-Systems-for-Indian-Navy

https://www.rolls-royce.com/~/media/Files/R/Rolls-Royce/documents/defence-aerospace/VCOMB3258-MT30-Marine-Gas-Turbine-Brochure.pdf

The US has no more love for Pakistan now & will therefore not seek to hyphenate India with Pakistan. On the other hand, this is likely to be very interesting:

https://theprint.in/defence/amid-india-china-tensions-army-conducts-exercise-skylight-to-test-satellite-based-systems/1070655/

https://theprint.in/defence/india-us-to-hold-high-altitude-military-exercise-near-lac-amid-rising-tensions-with-china/1067250/

It will be interesting to see what kind of assets & platforms the US brings for this exercise.

To KIDDO: The biggest takeaway is that the opening shots of any future war will be fired from/in space. Had it not been for the availability of STARLINK, Ukraine’s armed forces would have been defeated in detail long ago. Secondly, the robustness of an air-defence network comprising SHORADS & E-SHORADS is a must since they can take out subsonic LACMs & PGMs like the ones used by Russia & in-service with China. Thirdly, persistent ISR through battlespace surveillance radars is a must for detecting & monitoring hostile troop concentrations & for positioning the defender’s mobile tube/rocket field artillery assets. Fourth, hard-kill DEW-based anti-drone weapons will have to employed tactically in large numbers for neutralising the much smaller killer mini-drones.

To JOYDEEP: GHOSH: The Rafale-M as it is now cannot be accommodated by the IAC1’s twin elevators. Nor is Dassault willing to develop a folding-wing variant of the Rafale only for India. Nor can the Rafale carry BrahMos-A. It will be able to carry only the BrahMos-NG, which even the Super Hornet can.

To SATYAKI & সুমন্ত নাগ: It is possible, but the YW-5 can stay in the southern Indian Ocean or Bay of Bengal for long periods since the PLAN’s fleet replenishment vessels can easily resupply it. So why then is China insisting that the vessel visit Hambantota?

To সুমন্ত নাগ: 2) The videos in the previous thread clearly explain the R & D-related shortcomings as far as turbofans go. As for regional airliners, HAL can easily design one & had proposed it to the then Govt of India back in 1999, but the then NDA-1 govt instructed HAL to stay focussed on military aircraft projects. 3) The IAF can easily offer one of its IL-76MDs for conversion into a flying testbed with Russia’s assistance. China did so 20 years ago.

To KUNAL: The Tejas Mk.1A will have adequate on-board mission avionics & PGM arrays reqd for both air-defence & tactical strike missions, especially when used in combination with Rafales & Su-30MKIs.

To DASHU: How China is Buying Solomon Islands:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfXX0QaNLWw

Revelations on Australian SAS Battlefield Atrocities in East Timor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfUmumixFcQ&t=18s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3ey5uX1ZlI&t=87s

Revelations on Australian SAS & British SAS Battlefield Atrocities in
Afghanistan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h9TnGyxyKc

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/only-4-iaf-bases-have-new-age-security-system-419237

Kaushik said...

Hello Sir,
In a previous reply to me you have stated that India will not go for super hornet jets now in this thread you are saying that rafale cannot fit in iac 1. Please clarify.

joydeep ghosh said...

@prasun da

that is ok but if F18 are chosen what will happen to to them once TEDBF arrives after 2035, they will become useless

btw what will happen to Mig29k after F18 arrive, I think they should be under operational command of IAF minus tail hook, they can bolster the Mig29 numbers

Russia has over 300 Tu22 & nearly;y 500 Tu22Ms (wiki), so Indias SFC can definitely get at least 2 -3 dozen of them to strike deep inside Southern China north of TAR and South & East XAR

I don't expect we need Tu 160s

btw were you busy past few weeks preparing for HH Dalai Lama visit to Ladakh couple of days back?

thanks

Joydeep ghosh

joydeep ghosh said...

@prasun da

internet says all Tu22s are retired with over a dozen in reserve and about 70 Tu22Ms are in service with equal numbers in reserve

thanks

Joydeep ghosh

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

1. What does India do regarding ICBM/SLBM tests if China keeps assets like YW-5 for very long periods in the Indian ocean to track such tests. Can India still proceed with such tests successfully ?

2. Can assets like YW-5 cause missile test failures of ICBM/SLBMs through electronic interference ? This may be unlikely.

3. Has India inducted in service long range MBRLs like prahar/pranash to counter the PLA's PHL-16 ?

Ashwatthama

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

Prasun Da, I think India will have to resume the test of missiles irrespective of whether PRC's ship's presence in Indian Ocean or not.

Santosh said...

Did india purchased I derby ER from Israel?
Wat happened to pranash/prahaar missile program?

Raghu said...

Hi Prasun

It seems we are at the crossroads. Our armed forces are dependent on Russian arma and ammo. We also have dependence on Russia in strategic economic sectors like nuclear energy, oil etc.

We are also facing pressure from west to cut out or minimize relations with Russia which we obviously cannot do. How do you see future relations developing with Russia, what impact will the corridor through Chabahar port to Russia will have on developing economic relationship with Russia? What about payment modes, especially if Russia is totally cut off from Western payment systems? Currently, dirhams and yuan is being used for coal payments? But that may not be a feasible approach for the private sector if we are going to explore the Pharma, apparels and consumer items sector where there are opportunities.

Would like to know your views on this

Regards

Raghu

Raj Gupta said...

Why peacefuls commiting to sar tan se juda? Should GOI reverse ban on Salman Rushdie's books? Can Bharat Ratna be given to Mr Rushdie? Why GOI not going to start regulating masjids like Saudis are doing? As opposed to current scenario where Saudis and Iranian mullahs control our masjids depending on the specific sect.

Complete silence on this issue from present dispensation is indicative of wholesale national security failure.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SOUMYA RAY: 1) The MiG-29Ks are due for replacement starting 2030. 2) That depends on what MIL-STDs are being followed, i.e. NATO’s STANAG or something else based on Russia’s GOST. 3) Because the IN is interested in procuring not just the Super Hornets, but also other networked solutions like the General Atomics MQ-9B Sea Guardian UAS, Boeing MQ-25 Stingray aerial refuelling UAS & Northrop Grumman E-2T Hawkeye AEW & CS. 4) It is a critical reqmt since the MiG-29K’s performance to date has been sub-optimal, especially the Klimov RD-33MK turbofans.

To RAD: MBRLs like PCL-191/PHL-16 can easily be targeted by SS-BSMs like Pralay.

To PRATAP: The IAF is still fuzzy about the MRFA deal, but there is strong & compelling support for additional Rafales being procured off-the-shelf.

To NIKHIL M: 1) For a better understanding of China’s advances & deficiencies in AI, you need to watch & absorb the following:

Understanding the PLA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7JcAvnbRtE&t=44s

World of Xi Jinping: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DKIQpu4hhQ&t=35s

2) No one from the PLAGF positioned any MBRL near the LAC. Instead, the OCL-191 MBRLs are positioned here:

A) 41.6280 N, 86.4353 E, i.e. Korla PLAGF Training Ground, Yuli County, Bayingolin Mongol Autonomous Prefecture, Xinjiang.

B) 35.4352 N, 78.9458 E, i.e. on the bank of Lake Hongshang, Aksai Chin, Hotan County, Hotan Prefecture, Xinjiang.

To KRITAVARMA: 1) The Pralay. Prahar being an SS-BSM designed for carrying tactical nuclear warhead, does not have the warhead mass reqd for conventional ground strikes. 2) Yes. 3) Yes, both have shot down each other’s Tochkas. 4) Yes. 5) As soon as the order for six Pinaka-1 Regiments is fulfilled.

To PARTHASARATHI: Photos showing Derby BVRAAM on Su-30MKI are photoshopped & hence constitute FAKE NEWS. The ‘desi’ TEDBF will be easier to develop than AMCA. Hence the TEDBF will be available much before the AMCA Mk.1 becomes available.

To VENKY: This is the carbine to be procured in large nos:

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Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To VIKRAM GUHA: It is FAKE NEWS. Neither has India sought the F-35 JSF nor has the US offered it.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/iaf-wants-industry-to-assemble-elint-system-using-commercial-technology-421390

To JOYDEEP GHOSH: F/A-18E/F Super Hornets will operate from IAC-1/Vikrant R-11 while the TEDBFs will operate from INS Vikramaditya. MiG-29K’s performance to date has been sub-optimal, especially the Klimov RD-33MK turbofans. The Tu-22s & Tu-22Ms are not hardened against EMP since they were never meant to be used for delivering air-launched nuclear weapons. Instead, they were developed for flying at high speeds from within the USSR’s hinterland towards the Atlantic & Pacific Oceans with the specific intent of attacking the US Navy’s Carrier Battle Groups. Hence, they don’t qualify for use as strategic nuclear bombers for India’s Strategic Forces Command. Nor will Russia export Tu-160s since they are part of Russia’s strategic nuclear triad & are therefore prohibited for export as per the terms & conditions of the SALT treaty between the US & USSR/Russia—a fact of life not quite understood by ‘desi imbeciles’ like Bharat Karnad & hence all his needless rumour-mongering. And here’s the full presentation by Ret’d Arup Raha in which he makes no mention of any type of bomber to be acquired by the IAF:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl_mndwLfbs

I can’t fathom what pleasures the ‘desi imbeciles’ derive from outright rumour-mongering!!!

To Ashwatthama: The YWS-5 has been present in the southern Indian Ocean even during previous test-firings of Indian ICBMs. Its presence does not threaten India in any way. 2) No. The YW-5 carries only trajectory tracking radars, not DEWs. 3) Prahar cannot neutralise PLAGF’s long-range MBRLs, but Pralay SS-BSM can.

To SANTOSH: No one in India procured IDerby-ER BVRAAMs.

To RAGHU: The Rupee-Rouble currency exchange mechanism is the best option, just like the Rial-Rupee exchange mechanism between India & Iran.

Anonymous said...

So Indian forces will add one more caliber of gun ! 7.62x51, 7.62x39, 5.45x45..now 5.45x30.
US army uses only 2.
Regards
Venkatramana Siddheshwar

Indrajit said...

Prasun da,

If that is the case why is there so much humdrum on YWS-5? Why are the Chinese so much desperate to have it docked at Humbuntota?

SUJOY MAJUMDAR said...

Prasunda,

1.What are the various technologies that Indian Navy/Shipyards want from the P-75I project?

2.Didn't they get these technologies from the P-75 project?

Thanks,

Parthasarathi said...

PrasundNaval
Just now completed ' The Last War ' by Mr Pravin Sawhney. Few things may be just borderline of science fiction but some of them may be true.
I am aware of Chinese capabilities of commercial ship building. They are good but not as good as Japan or even Korea but years ahead of India.
Let me be frank that China is way ahead in Marine engineering and Naval architecture. Their workforce is also much more dedicated.
Probably same is true for other engineering departments also.
The main problem I feel in standard of engineering education. Beside IITs and NITs and beside some good universities like Jadavpur or Anna most of government and private engineering colleges are just certificate mill.
If India wants to compete with China then we must revamp our technical education system. Earlier is better.
Military must establish good engineering colleges. And no one other than STEM graduates can join as officers.
AI is the future. And earlier we understand it is better.
Best regards

Just_curious said...

U seem to suggest that there is a distinct possibility of f18s being bought ..while u had suggested previously that 45 migs were enuff for the both carriers.. what has changed? Also 45 tedbf seem to be pretty small count to be produced? Will there will be a 3rd carrier for IN and will Orca also meterialze for the Iaf as one of mrfa - 54 new rafles + 60 ORCAs?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To Venkatramana Siddheshwar: One must not conflate SLRs with carbines. They are for 2 distinct reqmts.

To INDRAJIT: China is using this incident as a test case for mapping out the new Sri Lankan govt’s strategic manoeuvring space vis-à-vis India & the US. India’s fears on the other hand are baseless since the YW-5 is neither a spy vessel nor a survey vessel used for seabed mapping & hence India is over-reacting.

To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: The P-75 project was just a licenced-production project that did not involve sharing of IPRs related to structural matters, i.e. how to derive the hull-crush depth parameters, how to determine the platform buoyancy parameters, etc etc. Without such data, the baseline design limitations cannot be modified, i.e. compressed or lengthened. The same goes for the P-75I project, since the design will be an imported one whose design & performance parameter derivations will all be IPRs owned by foreign OEMs. So yes, from both P-75 & P-75I, domestically built clones is very much possible, but no modifications to the pressure-hull designs are possible as they will be extremely risks endeavours.

To PARTHASARATHI: In terms of marine engineering & naval architecture, Indian shipbuilders can easily compete with their PRC counterparts PROVIDED the vessel designs are frozen, i.e. the universal integrated hull outfitting & painting (IHOP) protocol must be adhered to. This is not the case with all Indian warshipbuilding projects, where concurrent design & construction is the norm. AI’s future is totally dependent on advances in NI, or natural intelligence. Without the latter, the former cannot advance & hence human resource development is imperative for any knowledge-based society.

To JUST_CURIOUS: What has changed is the worsening reliability of the MiG-29K fleet. Land-based variants of TEDBF is a possibility in case the AMCA project encounters technological challenges. IAC-2 will definitely be procured. ORCA is a figment of imagination of internet fanboys. No such project exists in the real world. For strategic air campaigns, a procuring a force of 12 Tu-22M3s is a distinct possibility for operating only within the IOR when armed with BrahMos-NG supersonic multi-role cruise missiles (for both maritime strike & land-attack). Operating such bombers over land is a no-brainer ever since the advent of LR-SAMs like the S-400 & HQ-9. That being the case, it remains to be seen who will operate them, the IAF or IN. That was probably what Ret’d ACM Arup Raha was referring to.

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

VMT.

https://thebulletin.org/premium/2022-07/nuclear-notebook-how-many-nuclear-weapons-does-india-have-in-2022/

How reliable are these assesments of India's deterrent? They claim India has about 160 warheads but only about 10-12 Agni I, II and III with no Agni IV/V as yet, with warheads limited to 40 kt or less. The same people attribute a larger nuclear missile force to Pak even though Pak BMs are less tested. They claim India has no MIRV capability.

Are they just indulging in wild speculation ?

Ashwatthama

blackurrant said...

You have the answer in your question