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Tuesday, July 21, 2020

About Minfield Breeching Solutions & Ship-Launch Systems

Pearson Engineering’s business with India began in December 2013 following a visit by the DRDO’s Combat vehicle R & D establishment to the former’s engineering and manufacturing facilities. Thereafter, working in partnership with the MoD-owned, Bengaluru-based Bharat Earth Moving Ltd (BEML) based, Pearson Engineering had emerged as the winner during IA trials for the selection of a surface mine clearance system‎ (SMCS) for ICVs.
The IA first installed such systems on its BMP-2 ICVs and later on Pearson’s minefield breeching systems like track-width and full-width mine-ploughs also emerged as winners for fitment on the IA’s T-72CIA, T-90S and Arjun Mk.1A MBTs. The first such contract between the Indian MoD and BEML was signed in March 2016 for the delivery of 41 complete sets, with first deliveries commencing later that year.
Ship-Launch System For DRDO
The SLS, which was publicly displayed for the very first time at the DEFEXPO-2018 exposition two year ago, is a universal system capable of housing cannister-encased missiles meant for vertical launch, such as the AAD endo-atmospheric interceptor missile, Nirbhay land-attack cruise missile, and the BrahMos-NG supersonic anti-ship/land attack cruise missile.
The SLS is thus indicative of the DRDO’s plans for developing warship-based, cannistered-encased vertically-launched variants of such missiles in response to the Indian Navy’s future requirements.
The slide above also indicates that the land-mobile TEL-based variant of the SLS is now being developed for the projected Akash-2 MR-SAM now under development. The diagram shows six cannister-encased Akash-2 MR-SAMs being carried by the TEL.
Spinoffs From RF Seeker R & D
The last two decades have seen the DRDO’s Hyderabad-based Research Centre Imarat (RCI) develop a range of active X-band and Ku-band RF seekers for diverse applications, ranging from those for the Astra family of BVRAAMs to those for cruise missiles like the BrahMos-1.
In addition, the development of Ka-band active seekers has been taken up for futuristic applications on the projected PDV exo-atmospheric interceptor vehicle and the XR-SAM. The private-sector Kalyani Group too has begun developing Ku-band active seekers and plans to further expand this product portfolio.
Strangely, however, the DRDO has not yet made any effort to develop a medium-range high-subsonic anti-ship cruise missile that can be launched from the air, from warships and from submarines. Since the terminal homing active seekers operating in the X-, Ku- and Ka-bands are scalable, it should not be impossible for the DRDO to develop an advanced version of the MBDA-developed Sea Eagle anti-ship cruise missile (in air-launched, submarine-launched, warship-launched and ground-launched versions), which was acquired by the Indian Navy in the mid-1980s  in an air-launched configuration. The last of the Sea Eagles got decommissioned only earlier this decade.
Incidentally, there are presently two companies in India that have developed a family of turbojet engines required for powering such high-subsonic anti-ship cruise missiles.

One of them is the Kalyani Group, while the other is the subsidiary of PBS Aerospace of the Czech Republic, whose details can be found here:

40 comments:

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

And before anyone asks, the SLS is the key tool for developing a universal vertical-launch cell that will be able to house cannisters of varying shapes & sizes for missiles like the AAD, Nirbhay & BrahMos-NG, i.e. it will do away with the need for different types of VLS cells of the type now seen on board IN warships, like one for the BrahMos-1 & another for the Barak-8. This will enable the IN to load such missiles in varying quantities & combinations with minimal effort.

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

VMT for your reply in the previous thread.

1) Will ISRO and DRDO be able to rapidly return to the pre-covid levels as far as pace of activities is concerned, particularly on satellite launches and strategic missile tests?

2) Is the Covid problem likely to be under some semblance of control (allowing for ISRO/DRDO etc to resume activities at normal levels/close to normal levels) in around 3 months ?

Satyaki

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Logistics Challenges in Ladakh: As many as 6,000 ALS trucks are likely to be pressed into service to carry tonnes of rations and kerosene oil to Ladakh for winter stocking for up to 3 IA Infantry Divisions and an Armoured Brigade. The estimates so far suggest that, apart from the usual supplies for soldiers permanently posted in the area, the IA may need to transport an additional 20,000 tonnes of ration and at least 15,000 kilolitres of kerosene oil, approximately, for the 30,000 soldiers. Around 2,000 sets of previously worn serviceable (PWS) clothing—usable clothing of troops who have been de-inducted from Siachen, usually given to soldiers at slightly lower altitudes—are likely to be readily available and more will be reconditioned for use. The IA is also looking to arrange additional 15,000 sets of extreme cold conditional (ECC) clothing, and temporary shelters and tents. The XIV Corps, which usually serves at the LAC in Ladakh, has approximately 70,000 troops who also oversee the world’s highest battlefield at Siachen, among other areas. Additional Arctic tents are being ordered, and “operational works stores”—stores used to create habitat, protective defences and bunkers and security fences, among other things—have been reprioritised and reappropriated from other locations within the Command. Every soldier is authorised approximately 2.5kg of rations per day. For 30,000 soldiers over 180 days or the six winter months, this could translate to approximately 13,500 tonnes. Additional special rations are authorised for troops in high-altitude terrain, which could add up to another 6,500 tonnes. The IA has also estimated an additional requirement of approximately 15,000 kilolitres of kerosene oil. Both road axes in Ladakh—through Zoji La and Rohtang—are being utilised for ferrying the supplies, both of which remain snowed in during the winter months. Optimisation of Leh, Thoise and Kargil airfields is being carried out to speed up the turnover of troops. The IA has already been equipped with additional sets of riot-control equipment, particularly because the current rules of engagement at the LAC do not allow firing. A special session of the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) on July 15 empowered the armed forces to go ahead with Rs.300 crore worth of capital acquisitions to meet emergent operational requirements, even as the military has been on a shopping spree over the past few weeks. Among other things, the Army is planning to place orders for eight Heron-2 MALE-UAVs and 1,000 Spike-MR anti-tank guided missiles from Israel.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

This is the ultimate in stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggDsAnMGkXg

This autoclave could easily have been transported by a coastal barge.

PLAGF PCL-181 MGS in Shoot-n-Scoot Mode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bay5xuph8AE

PLAAF KJ-600 AEW & CS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1nCERqTK6A

PLAGF ZSL-92 APC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uehuc_Amr0c

PLAGF ZBD-09 8 x 8 APC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcXuyGR8cAE

Unknown said...

Mr Prasun I read that the Spike order will be same again for 12 launchers and 250 missiles? Is it true and the version should be LR not MR I guess which has 4 km range not 2.5km.

Satya said...

Do we even need Akash NG or Akash 2 when we already have Barak 8? Or is it being developed to replace the current Akash missile bases on a vintage Soviet missile and dismissed as a dud which can't be trusted during war?

Pinkal Shah said...

Dear Prasun,

Many thanks for Unidentified links of dailymotion, howver based on your reply some more questions below:

1. As you said Indian NCW capabilities & capacities are are far ahead, rest assured, does it means that our NCW capabilities & capacities as at par wrt European/Russian coounterparts (leave only US as they are the pioneers).

2. Whether we have any joint ATC system operational that combines air-traffic management data from both civilian & military radars across indian land mass

3. Regarding IMAC-IFC in Gurgoan, NCR, whether it integrates and conmbines all AIS, Coastal Radars, Navy radars & civilian ATC of India and Other coastal states in IOR for complete picture from Strait of Hormouz/Horn of africa to Malacca & Southern indian ocean

4. https://swarajyamag.com/defence/plain-truth-indian-army-is-fully-prepared-and-was-not-caught-unawares-in-ladakh-china-risks-losing-face
your views on above article

5. https://www.deccanchronicle.com/opinion/columnists/150720/syed-ata-hasnain-in-ladakh-operational-logistics-holds-the-key.html, sharing the same views for logistics challenges faced in High-altitude regions by armed forces

6. As per your comment wrt logistics challenges in ladakh, how well prepared our armed forces wrt to available equipment & manpower against Chinese counterparts

7. Whether Rudra gunship deployed in ladakh has rockets & ATGM fitted or it has only 20 mm Nexter gun or is it usd only for CSAR / Observation Mission?

8. What is definition of forward airbase, is it within 150 km from international boundary with dedicated HAS, Radars. Does all forward & hinterland airbases of IAF has HAS for respective aircraft stationed there or only some airbases has HAS. Kindly elaborate as it will be more helpful for us to get better educated on such matters.

9. Do you reckon any kinetic Limited high intensity war across LoC to get back PoK & Gilgit Baltistan area as per original IoA of J&K and get access to all-weather Wakhan corridor. We have time till September only, after that 6 months is impossible to stage any battle in such areas.

10. What is status of Project Varsha Navy new eastern base as on July 2020. Also any update on Phase-2 of Project Seabird in Karwar.

11. Whether IAF will exercise option for additional 7 Chinooks as per 2015 contract price to avoid any cost escalation and get more better air lift capability required for our northern and eastern borders.

12. Whether contract for engine upgradation for T-72CIA & T-90S to 1300hp from Russia has been concluded or still under CNC stage to achieve power to weight ratio of 25 hp/ton. Also it seems Arjun Mk-1A already has 24 hp/tone near to desired level, so why can't Arjun be deployed in ladakh sector (i.e cold desert).

13. "The production indent for Arjun Mk.1A has already been placed with HVF Avadi. Mk.2’s development is now underway & the hulls & turrets of four prototypes, each made of HNS, have already been delivered to CVRDE at Avadi for electrical/accessories outfitting & systems integration. By using a Cummins 1,500hp engine, the desired power-to-weight ratio of 25hp/tonne will hopefully be realised if the MBT’s weight is kept limited to 61 tonnes".

It means 118 Nos Mk-1A is yet to be delivered to IA, also Cummins 1500 hp engine is developed by DRDO or again imported. What is percentage of imported content in Arjun-Mk-1A & Mk-2 in terms of value as well as content.

14. How many LRU's has been indigenized for SU-30MKI, Mirage-2000, Mig-29 & Jaguar's by DPSU & DRDO.

15. Why is IA not commencing FET/User trials for Kalyani group MGS 155 mmx39 cal 4x4 MGS system on war footing basis, as suggested by you.

16. How many numbers of M-777 UFH & Dhanush Howitzers are inducted as on July 2020 by IA. Any more such howitzers apart from what is contracted shall be ordered by IA.

17. is development of 190mWe PWR by BARC is completed for projected IAC-2 & S-5/S-6/S-7 SSBN.

contd below.....

Pinkal Shah said...

18. Any progress on Indian design SSN submarine fleet and addtional 3 nos of P-75 Scorpene SSK.

19. Indian Nuclear Umbrella is extended to how many countries in Middle East.

20. How many upgraded Mirage-2000 & Jagaur DARIN-3 aircrafts has been delvierd to IAF by HAL.

21. Whether IAF has achieve serviceability rate of 75% for all its aircrafts & rotorcrafts in service or achieved only during ex-gagan shakti

22. Any progress on TATA Advanced Systems had teamed up with Israel’s URBAN AERONAUTICS to co-develop the Air Mule VTOL-UAV for such air-maintenance reqmts by IA

23. Is TATA 4x4 LAMV ordered by IA

24. Are all heavy duty trucks from 8x8 to 12x12 is been designed & developed by indian private sectors players such as TATA, Ashok Leyland, Mahindra etc. I believe except for Engines & Transmission gear all is developed in house.

25. How many airspace surveillance radars mounted on tethered aerostats like the EL/M-2083 is available with our armed forces and where are they used.

26. If i'm not wrong then total contracted T-90 MBT is 1657 Nos, of which 464 recently ordered shall be of T-90M design and rest 1193 are to be upgraded to T-90M. Also how many T-90S MBT are licensed produced (from 1000 Nos) by HVF avadi till date.

27. Can 780hp V46-6 diesel engine & 1000hp V92SF (fully indigenized by OFB) be used by private players to power heavy duty trucks or we cannot due to russian restrictions

28. How you rate T-90M & Arjun MK-1A wrt Type-10 & K2 Black panther MBT.

29. What is status of IA Tac C3I & BMS project.

30. Could you pls share web links to understand physics behind ARV Flux liner.

31. Whether there is any existance of USSR/Russian black projects same as american counterparts, if yes than pl share some details on projects developed by the USSR/Russian.

Thanks & Regards,
Pinkal Shah

Buddha said...

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/indian-army-gets-bharat-drones-for-accurate-surveillance-along-china-border/amp_articleshow/77084103.cms
Sir want to know more about it from you..
Will this China threat speed up artillery acquisition like MGS, Dhanus , ATGS...
Sir Will DRDO and Baba Kalyani tie up to develop high subsonic antiship cruise missile..
If India can't get its engine For LRLACM then will Russia provide interim sollution like its engine for producing LRLACM..
As you said with 40 Tejas 1 and 18 Trainer and 83 + Mk1A ...Should it be regarded a stretched tired success story..
What will be ammunition for Tejas MK1A..
Looking at delaying culture MWF will take almost this decade ...Hope Tejas MK1A will get more order..
How you see this air craft vis a vis pak JF17..Block 2/3
As China is starting threatening to all like USA EU UK
Aus etc. How economically hardship is coming for china in coming days..

just_curious said...

Prasun,

1-how diff is VL astra from QRSAM .. can you share more details on it & how soon will it be realized. How close is the VLS laucher to production. ditto for QRSAM -how long before it is productionized
2- You mention usage of re-purposing sea eagle design ,, why not jointly produce NSM or a variant of it like what the turks have done with their SOM missile
3-what is the news about NASMAS 2 being rejected by IAF.. thought it a non starter
4- should india invest in partnering chinook upgradation program & add these to its fleet to serves across chinese border esp ladakh since some parts are alreadu being manufactured by tata grp & given its precision hovering capabilities. more of the heli could be manufactured here as a part of the deal.. should be a good earner.. had read that Ch 53 costs have been an issue
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28157/boeing-to-flight-test-ch-47-with-same-monster-engines-found-on-sikorskys-new-ch-53k
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31013/this-is-our-first-look-at-a-ch-47-chinook-with-super-powerful-t408-engines
5- Some days a gao there was an artcile about russia catching its artic studies head for passing crucial info to the chinese . how true was it & if true, has/will russia react/ed

asd said...

Dear Prasun,

1.You vow many times for making the PSUs into public listed companies. There are many government owned public listed companies; but still they are not much popular like their EU or US counterparts. What's the reason?

2. In the last thread, you responded me with a link of elbit system for simulation training. May I know what stops our MoD to adopt it for our forces?

just_curious said...

Prasun,

a few more ...
6- what could be the possible outcome of the india-EU summit. Will they come more closer thx to china or its still a long way to go given their bureaucratic, often messy & chaotic internal squabbles and way of working ? read somewhere that france is also planning to send its ships in south china sea and the fact that India-france share defence interests & also have a logistics pact in place.. it was anyways france & Uk who were the big daddies inn the larger erstwhile EU when it came to force strength. Will france drive this initiative in favour of India?wot if we decide to buy more rafales & 6 additional subs from them
7 - why aren't India & Uk going ahead with a more comprehensive tie-up benefiting both economically & strategically now that UK is out of EU
8- can't we extend a defence line of credit to syria to show turkey we mean business if it meddles in our affairs again.. i recollect we already are providing humanitarian aid to them . Same with greece...
9- Since France & turkey are pitted against each other in libya & the rest of EU broadly siding with france.. how lomg before turkey is evicted from NATO?

Abir said...

Sir,does iaf buy aasm hammer with rafale weapon package? because there is an image in which Indian rafale seen carrying aasm hammer within.
https://www.livefistdefence.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/1.jpg

Unknown said...

PRasun Da,

You had replied to me earlier that Helina could attain only 5KM range successfully. Is there any improvement?

John

The RAT said...

Hi Prasun,

Thanks for informative update, so finally it will be safe to say DRDO is doing something right for a change. And good to know Kalyani group trying its hand in some technologies that may help in future. Regarding Sea Eagle cruise missile why don't you propose it to DRDO? Or Kalyani group? You are an Aeronautical engineer and word coming from you will have some credibility who will even entertain a thought from non engineering folks?
Thanks again

Vinod J said...

Prasunda,

When you mention that local MBT engine production is only feasible if it can be shared with diesel locomotives to generate volumes. MBT would require 1500-1800 hp powerpack, but the current locomotives of indian railways are in excess of 4000 hp upto 6000 hp. How can than the two ends meet?

Also, can actually a family of powerpacks with for both FCRV & FICV solve this issue of feasibility

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SATYAKI: 1) No, there will be delays that will result in a 2-year backlog. 2) Not under India’s unique conditions where the majority of folks sincerely believe that laws are made to be broken.

To UNKNIWN: Not true. The reqmt is for an additional 250 launchers & up to 1,250 missiles, i.e. four reloads of every 1 missile expebded.

To SATYA: Akash-1S & Akash-2 SAMs in future will replace the existing Akash-1 missiles, starting 2025.

To PINKAL SHAH: 1) Far ahead of China, but are behind the capabilities of NATO member-states. 2) At Bengaluru, as I had stated in my previous reply. Eventually this system will cover the whole country in another 8 years. 3) IMAC only gives data on maritime movements in the seas, and not about airborne movements. 4) Totally untrue, for if India was not caught unawares, then she would have pre-empted the PLA’s deployments all along the LAC. 6) India will face far lesser challenges than China, since the latter has to depend on the G-219 precarious roadway perched along the Kuen Lun & Karakoram mountain ranges from south Xinjiang to Aksai Chin. 7) I had already stated that the Rudra WSIs have only 20mm Nexter cannons. 8) No, Pathankot AFS for instamnce is only 70km away from the IB. Forward air bases house only small detachments of combat aircracft & that too for limited periods & hence the number of HAS there is also small. 9) There is time until November. 10) You can see it all yourself on GoogleEarth. 11) Yes. 12) No contract has been inked as yet. Arjun Mk.1A has total weight of 67.5 tonnes while its powerpack delivers 1,400hp. From that you can easily calculate what its power-to-weight ratio will be. Definitely not 24hp/tonne. 13) Cummins is a US-based private company. How can the DRDO develop an engine for this company? 14) A few thousand. 15) Because the IA does not have an institutionalised culture of internal in-house product development. 16) More than 20 M-777s & little over 12 of Dhanush-45. 17) The project was never sanctioned & hence no such work has been undertaken. 18) None whatsoever. 19) No one has officially sought it so far. 20) About 12 & 16. 21) Yes, but only for combat aircraft. 22) That project was terminated long ago & it never took off. 23) No. 24) All except the TATRA family of HMVs from BEML-TATRA. 25) Only 2. 26) Only 1,000 have been built by HVF Avadi. 27) They have still not been fully indigenised. Nor was any attempt made to indigenise their gearboxes. 28) Type 10 & K-9 are a generation ahead of the Arjun Mk.1A but are comparable to the T-90M. 29) Both projects have been cancelled. 30) I had already done so four years earlier. Don’t lose it this time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl_F0XIpacM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzY06MRzwPE&t=15s

To BUDDHA: All the DRDO-developed drones were highlighted here: http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2016/11/never-ending-unkept-promises.html Procurement of numerous types of field artillery howitzers can never be speeded up since the home-grown solutions will consume a lot of time to be refined & tested. High subsonic cruise misiles can easily be developed in-country, provided the IN makes a few of the decommissioned Sea eagles available to the private-sector for re-engineering purposes. NPO Saturn 36M turbofan has been available to India since 2012 for direct procurement for LRLACM. Weapons load for Tejas Mk.1A will be the same. JF-17 Blocks-2/3 will still be technologically inferior to the Tejas Mk.1A.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To JUST_CURIOUS: 1) The VL-SRSAM (Vertically Launched -Short-range Surface Air to Missile) is still another 8 years away fro becoming available whereas the reqmts for such SAMs are RIGHT NOW. 2) Turkey’s SOM PGM was designed with China’s help & it also uses a China-supplied turbojet. 4) The IAF needs at least 60 CH-47Fs it has to engage in cost-effective air-maintenance of all of the forward posts of the IA & ITBP all along the LAC. 5) Even from the Arctic sea route, China’s maritime traffic will still be reqd to negotiate the various maritime chokepoints in the Atlantic, Mediterranean & Aegean Seas. 6 & 7) India & the EU have been trying for several years to agree to a FTA, but so far matters haven’t progressed & instead it looks like India & the UK may strike a FTA much sooner. 8) That will anger the US & India’s Middle Eastern Arab friends. 9) Far better to evict Erdogan from power than to evict Turkey from NATO.

To ASD: 1) Because the divestment from the Govt of India hasn’t taken place & that enables the Govt of India’s bureaucrats to meddle in the corporate affairs of such companies & this only results in crucial decisions being made in a delayed manner. 2) It is the regressive mindset. For instance, at least one cockpit procedures trainer, one full-mission simulator & one maintenance training simulator for the Rafale should have been commissioned at least 6 months before the Rafale’s arrival in India. But nothing of that sort has happened & such simulators will probably end up in India another 3 years later!!!

To ABIR: Look closely & that image shows the Rafale RB-001 in French Air Force colours. Hence, the AASM being carried was used to replicate the Spice-2000 PGM. The AASM was rejected by the IAF back in 2016 itself after it emerged that the Indian company that had teamed up with SAFRAN/SAGEM was involved in corrupt practices & its owner (Sanjay Bhandari) is now absconding from the law & is in hiding in the UK. Do read this:

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/15857/Sagem__OIS_AT_To_Co_Produce_AASM_Hammer_In_India#.Xxck0ygzaM8

To UNKNOWN/JOHN: No, the shortcoming still exists.

To RAT: I had proposed it to everyone concerned 3 years ago.

To VINOD J: Not just locomotives, but also heavy-duty high-mobility commercial & military trucks. The diesel engines developed by Cummins for instance were always meant for commercial applications where the bulk of the demand lies. Only later were they adapted for military vehicle usages. In future the FRCV & FICV families will have to include 3 types of armoured vehicles with high degree of commonality: the FMBT, the MBT Support Fighting Vehicle & the FICV.

BHVK said...

Sirji,

1.) What is the total number of regiments for MRSAMs, LRSAMs/XRSAMs, QRSAMs, BMDs that are required by the military ?

2.) With joint air defence command being formed in the future will these regiment numbers increase or decrease ?

3.) What kind of support infrastructure is required to make Arjun Mk2 viable to use from Punjab to Gujarat theatre ? If this is possible will that mean we can remove T-90s in this sector and place them in Eastern borders with an upgraded engine like you suggested ?

4.) What is the 'Bharat' drone that army is acquiring from drdo ?


Vector said...

is this true story ? do they have russian origins or are they chinese replica ?

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/27355/Pakistan_Seen_Deploying_Unmanned_Ground_Vehicle_Near_Indian_Border__Media_Reports#.XxdJUCgzZPZ

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

1) When you say 2 year backlog, you mean no launch for the next two years, or slower rate than usual for the next two years ?

2) If the S-5/6/7 submarines are not yet sanctioned, has the definitive SLBM been sanctioned ?

3) If the answer to 2) is 'yes', would the definitive SLBM also be tested from the S-4 ?

Satyaki

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To BHVK: 1) It was all explained in the thread dealing with EX Gagan Shakti 2018. 2) Of course there will be an increase. 3) No wars in future will be fought by either country along the IB. The wars will be limited only to the WB, LoC & LAC. 4) Beats me.

To VECTOR: They are all Made-in-China UGVs & are meant for use by the Rangers & Frontier Corps in Balochistan. They are now in Sindh only for training purposes over barren land of the type prevailing in Balochistan.

To SATYAKI: 1) Both slower rate as well as suspension of launch schedules due to human resource constraints due to movement restrictions. 2) Not yet, because the developmental works are still underway & are not nearing completion anytime soon.

Meanwhile, the ‘desi bandalbaaz’ from BUSINESS STANDARD is claiming that with the first squadron likely to take about three months to become operationally ready, Rafales could begin combat operations by September-October (2020). On the other hand, the 3 resident bandalbaazes of INDIA TODAY are claiming that the IAF will take ‘only a few weeks’ to devise employment tactics for the Rafales. However, this is what the IAF has officially stated: “IAF aircrew and ground crew have undergone comprehensive training on the aircraft, including its highly advanced weapons systems and are fully operational now. Post-arrival, efforts will focus on operationalisation of the aircraft at the earliest”. Mind you, the IAF is clearly distinguishing between the aircrew’s operational conversion & being flight-qualified to fly the Rafale, and the operationalisation of the Rafale & that’s why the IAF has not specified any date for the latter. And why so? Because, as I had explained back on July 15, only after is formal service-induction can the aircraft enter operational service & be forwarded to TACDE, whose sole mission is to devise tactics for optimally employing such weaponised platforms in conjunction with various combat-support elements like AEW & CS platforms, aerial refuelling tankers, and the IACCCS network. This also includes live-firing of all the procured weapons during the specified 18-month or 12-month warranty periods. And only after TACDE completes writing the tactics manuals do the squadrons start practicing all that’s specified in the manuals & only after the squadrons acquire the specified proficiencies are they next declared fully operational. That’s the sequence & hence the mere commissioning of a squadron with new aircraft arrivals does not tantamount to that squadron being declared semi-operational or fully-operational.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

PA Paratroopers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us4fKvd-OW0

What Ails Infrastructure Makeover Of Andaman & Nicobar Islands?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqZTAFuGpa8

China smuggles Arms to India Via Thailand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH2kVUFwssU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rByUwn9-Z4

Sino-Indian Escalation: Blip or Lasting Strategic Shift? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EgBEqFm87M

Geopolitics of Opportunity: As World Rebalances, How should India Capitalise?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jJ3fccQ5rQ

How Ancient Religious Shrines Are Abused: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMWC5Aoz80o

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

VMT. But you had earlier said that we can expect MIRV testing to begin in a year or two. Does that mean it would begin with land based missiles (Agni-5) and only then will the definitive SLBM be sanctioned ?

Satyaki

Parthasarathi said...

Prasunda,

Pakistan is winning against Corona. With all probability they are using Sinovac v( Chinise ) Now the same vaccine is being used at Brazil.
India should start using Oxford vaccine on willing persons. If Brazil can do them why can't India ?
Best regards

Pinkal Shah said...

Dear Prasun,

Greetings!!

Many thanks for your reply, some more questions as below:

1. Whether IL-76MD & IL-78 upgradation contract has been signed or still under negotiation stage. If signed & aircraft sent to Russia then by when we can except upgraded aircraft in IAF.

2. IMAC only gives data on maritime movements in the seas, and not about airborne movements, but is IMAC combines all data from AIS, Coastal surveillance radars, Navy radars from India & other countries in IOR region.

3. Whether Rudra & LCH weaponisation be expedited now after so much pin-pong between MoD & IAF and got fully loaded with weapons for battle field operations along LoC & LAC
Also how many rounds of ammunition for 20mm Nexter gun is carried by Rudra gunship.

4. Is 118 Nos Mk-1A is yet to be delivered to IA.

5. What will be the percentage of imported content in Arjun-Mk-1A & Mk-2 in terms of value as well as content.

6. Serviceability rate of 75% is yes, but only for combat aircraft, it means for all combat aircrafts (Mig-21, Mig-29UPG, Mirage-2000 Upgrade, Jaguar (all variants) & Su-30MKI) operational with IAF. What about serviceability rate for Transport aircraft & Helicopter Units in IAF.

7. If No TATA 4x4 LAMV ordered by IA, but do IA has any other 4x4 LAMV in use across Hilly terrain prevalent all along LAC, LoC & WB

8. Whether there is any existance of USSR/Russian black projects same as american counterparts, if yes than pl share some details on projects developed by the USSR/Russian.

9. All except the TATRA family of HMVs from BEML-TATRA, it means all heavy duty trucks from 8x8 to 12x12 is been designed & developed by indian private sectors players such as TATA, Ashok Leyland, Mahindra includes engines & gear box as well.

10. Any movement for MRTT for IAF, whether IAF has agreed for used A330-200 airframes to be converted to use it as MRTT as suggested by you

11. Is M777 delivery schedule is on track to be completed by 2021, or any additional M777 apart from what is contracted shall be ordered by IA.

12. For Dhanush-45 seems again OFB is failling to keep delivery schedule for contracted 114 units by IA. Why can we expedite the production or again regressive mindset prevails in OFB & MoD.

13. Whether IAF has full mission simulator, CPT & Maintenance simulator for all combat aircrafts, transport & helicopter units available for use, if not than pl elaborate on number of simulator functional with IAF.

14. Only 1,000 have been built by HVF Avadi, does it means we have 1657 Nos of T-90S/SK operational with IA and 464 T-90M shall be in addition to 1657 Nos. so much confusion pl clear it with breakup once and for all.

15. As per your reply,the IA does not have an institutionalised culture of internal in-house product development, it means Kalyani group MGS 155 mmx39 cal 4x4 MGS system will never see the light of day with IA.

16. As per above comment, do IAF & IN has any institutionalised culture of internal in-house product development, if yes then what are the equipments/products has been developed.

17. why can't Arjun be deployed in ladakh sector (i.e cold desert).

18. Does all forward & hinterland airbases of IAF has HAS for respective aircraft stationed there or only some airbases has HAS.


Thanks & Regards,
Pinkal Shah

joydeep ghosh said...

@PRASUN DA

a small mistake by you

Subsector West was renamed Subsector Haneef in his honour and not sub sector north

https://www.rediff.com/news/special/the-courage-of-capt-haneef-vir-chakra-martyr-at-25/20190723.htm

just_curious said...

Prasun ,

1- looks like the chinese are winning in nepal . are there no madhesi/ gorkha leader who can stand up to these 2 morons? --https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/after-dahal-stand-down-in-round-1-fight-with-oli-is-now-for-cabinet-berths-in-nepal-reshuffle-ahead/story-wfwZmDbl8QPo1dukDKbsYN.html

Unknown said...

Hello sir,
Recently I found this website, became a big fan.
Here is my question....
What are the avionics for AMCA that has been planned in the sector like Radar, EW suite & Weaponry?
Bcz I think our indigenous systems like Uttam, Mayavi EW suite are not good enough to be fitted on 5th gen platform.
If there are more advanced indigenous systems planned, then what are they & what's their current status?
& If NO, then what foreign systems IAF/DRDO is looking for AMCA?

VIKRAM GUHA said...

PrasunDa,

1.MoD had announced that Israeli company IWI will supply 16.479 Negev NG7 machine guns (7.62 caliber, chambered for 7.62 × 51 mm NATO) for the Indian armed forces.

Does that mean they are going to replace all the PKT machine guns as coaxial guns in all their Soviet armoured vehicles?

2. Last week DRDO carried out trials of the ATGM Dhruvastra-39. What are the various tech related to this missile that are still being tested?
https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1285796330787319808?s=20

Regards,
VIKRAM

AMIT BISWAS said...

Has navy started procuring torpedos for scorpene submarines for future expected events?? I mean else they will be sitting ducks

asd said...

Dear Prasun,

With no de-escalation in sight, do you think that Sino-Indian limited high intensity war is inevitable?

Karmic said...

No Generatist has published any coment on actual production start for Helina/Nag after yesterday test called Druvastra. Is there a possibility to see Nag/Helina on borders soon?

Buddha said...

https://m.thewire.in/article/security/india-china-xi-jinping-lac-border-modi-1962-war

https://m.thewire.in/article/security/galwan-valley-clash-india-china-strategy

https://m.thewire.in/article/security/china-ladakh-rajnath-singh-narendra-modi-galwan-depsang

https://theprint.in/defence/india-prepares-for-collusive-threat-from-china-pakistan-rajnath-asks-forces-to-be-ready/466071/

Is small scale conflict is impending..

https://m.thewire.in/article/security/indian-army-china-ladakh-assault-rifle-import
Really sad state of indian defence sector..



https://m.thewire.in/article/diplomacy/modi-iran-chabahar-port-china-pakistan

https://theprint.in/past-forward/the-story-of-what-really-happened-when-chinese-troops-withdrew-from-galwan-post-58-years-back/460436/

Sir can Astra be transformed into small Helicopter launch air to air missile
Sir the SANT or version of Nag/Helina can be armed with Tejas MK 1 or MK1A for air to ground role or in future Indian Armed UAV


sandeep said...

Hi sir.... Nag and it's derived ATGM follow straight course to its target whereas KONKUR atgm has undulated path to the target.. Why this difference and will this affect efficacy of Nag family of ATGM capability to hit a moving target?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SATYAKI: The MIRVs for both the land-based Agni-5 & SSBN-based SLBM will be identical & hence MIRV testing will not involve sequential test-firings of land-based ICBMs & SSBN-based SLBMs.

To PARTHASARATHI: On a per capita & population density-wise, India is faring much better than anyone else, you can kindly rest assured. Most of the recent infections in India are in the mild to moderate symptomatic categories. But I was deeply saddened by the lack of any publicity given yesterday by the various ‘desi’ TV channels to the achieving of criticality of India’s first 700mWe PHWR at Kakrapar, Gujarat. Only these 2 announcements appeared:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0OJnje5-98

https://twitter.com/DAEIndia/status/1285845442475913216
https://twitter.com/DrJitendraSingh/status/1285800197692379139

In these new-generation PHWRs, 2,166mWT is converted into 700mWe at an efficiency of 32%. Total number of such PHWRs being & to be built include 2 in Gujarat; 6 in Rajasthan, 4 in Haryana, 2 in Karnataka, and 2 in Madhya Pradesh.

To PINKAL SHAH: 1) Not yet. All negotiations have been completed. 2) Yes. Data from more than 23 countries come into IMAC & there are also some foreign naval liaison officers posted there. 3) Check out the following thread. 4) Yes. 5) More than 50%. 6) The rate for them is lower, perhaps 60%, except for the C-130J-30s & C-17As that have more than 90% availability rate. 7) There are no LAMVs for use in military operations. But there are plenty of them for counter-terror operations. 8) Not to the best of my knowledge. 9) Yes. 10) None whatsoever. 11) No follow-on orders placed as yet. 12) The pandemic has caught everyone by surprise, especially in a country where civil-defence drills are an alien concept since 1972. 13) For Mi-17V-5s & IL-76MDs & IL-78MKI there are no full-mission simulators available. For all the rest there are both cockpit procedures trainers & full-mission flight simulators. 14) No, the 464 will be part of the original no of 1,657 members of the T-90 family finalised for procurement. 15) It may well be ordered in future, but after an arduous & avoidable process. 16) Only the IN has. The IAF too has been a very slow starter like the IA. 17) Because it does not come fitted with internal heaters. 18) All hinterland air bases have HAS but FOBs like the ones at Car Nicobar or Thoise don’t.

To JOYDEEP GHOSH: Yes, that’s correct, but folks still refer to it by uts old designation. That’s the sad part.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To JUST_CURIOUS: The best option is to ignore such clowns. The lesser the attention they get, the faster they will fade away.

To UNKNOWN: You will find them shown in the Aero India 2017 thread.

To VIKRAM GUHA: 1). No, the PKTs will remain where they are. The Negev GPMGs are for dismounted infantry & will replace the INSAS LMGs now in use. 2) Kindly browse through the following thread.

To AMIT BISWAS: No, because perhaps they reckon such HWTs won’t be used in the Panggong Tso Lake, unless some ‘desi patrakaar’ claims tomorrow that the IN is thinking of deploying a Scorpene SSK there!

To ASD: That depends on India’s political will, which so far as not yet been able to embrace the ground-realities & hence the RM is giving away some inducations to this effect in bits & pieces. Perhaps the ‘netas’ in power ar4e still hoping that this will end like how OP PARAKRAM had ended in October 2002.

To KARMIC: Hence your’s truly has uploaded the following thread. Kindly browse through it. And here are the videoclips:

NAG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vwTHA04Gi0

HELINA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1lHzrxioEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJUwN_hF0WE

To BUDDHA: The Astra is far too big for any attack helicopter especially when the attack helicopter does not have any multi-mode fire-control radar. For being launched from combat aircraft, the SANT must have a range of at least 15km, not the 12km it will have. And as for the LAC standoffs, it is highly surprising & disappointing that between mid-April & now, no one seems to have found out why China what it did & what are its intentions & desired end-states. And of all the weblinks you’ve given, only the one written by ret’d Maj Gen Ashok Mehta makes sense to me. But even he with his military background has spelt only what he thinks are the military intentions of China. The strategic intentions still remain unexplained or hidden till this date. But as I had stated earlier, thanks to some CRV sessions, it can be fathomed that the intentions are Tibet-centric & a few more CR$V sessions will contribute further to the existing data-points gathered so far through such CRV sessions.

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

VMT. Then does your earlier assertion that we can expect MIRV testing to start in the next two years still hold (possibly with a few months added to that timeframe due to covid delays) ?

Satyaki

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Analysis of J-10 Dogfight Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l04RA_hOx7A&feature=youtu.be

rad said...


Hi prasun
how did kalyani suddenly develop samll turbines and high tech missile active seekers? surely ther has to be some input from some where?
Again how did they achieve to mkae a missile seeker all of a sudden ? Is it different form the drdo make ?
pse elaborrate on the w band seeker as there seems to be very less information. what is the reason for selecting w band which is much abov e the regular missile seeker freq?
so i assume that any heli borne radar like the apache has to be in the similar freq so as to have the data link etc?
will it be prudent to have a AAM seeker in that freq so a s to be above the common jamming pod range? it would be nasty surprise and un jammable as far as i know there aare no jamming pods designed to this freq?