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Wednesday, June 1, 2011

VL Shtil-1 Proposed For Project 15 Delhi-class DDGs' Mid-Life Upgrade


Anonymous said...

Few days back you said that MPR radar is an Israeli radar but it is developed by DRDO will be inducted into the IAF on Friday. Its named Arudhra. So get yourself corrected next time.

Qamar said...

this is also used by china on their type 054a frigates, right?

Why India didn't adopted it?

Anonymous said...

can u provide some details about DF-21B and P-20 pakistanis are getting?


and their effect on India? can our ABMs counter them?

Anonymous said...

why in the hell Russians keep arming our enemies and than keep loosing the technology too?

It seems that russia is real angry with India right now an has cancelled two exercises and its officials are going to Pakistan which is after russia to buy Mi-35, Mi-17s and may be some missiles

Atul Sharma said...

Dear Anon 7.34 am;
Prasun seems to be right. Just chk this news link about the radar. The one being inducted is infact from ISRAEL.
"The Indian Air Force (IAF) chief, Air Chief Marshal P.V. Naik, will do the honours and induct the medium-power radars from Israeli firm Elta Systems, the official said. The IAF has named the new radar Arudhra, the official added."

ANon said...

Dear Prasun,

You wrote somewhere else regarding the Arihant:

"But one thing is for sure: it is at the insistence of the Russians that both the DRDO and the Indian Navy have so far refrained from releasing any photos of the Arihant."

I request to know why sir? You said the steel came from Russia. I wouldn't be even a bit surprised by that. But looking at the steel exterior / design, who on earth can conclude anything about its Russian components / contributions?

[PS - I think India is doing thigs right this time. Instead of vehemently wanting to be 100% indegenous ie.. no buying of technology, no reverse technology -- we ought to be doing it this way. If we need something but cannot make it ourselves, we should start building what we can step by step and importing the rest and in time we will develop the capability. In fact it's a good thing nuclear submarines aren't available for sale off-the-shelf]

Anonymous said...

??? are Pakis getting DF-21B ??

that's an IRBM isn't it?

Anonymous said...

isnt DF-21 developed to defeat and target US targets?

How can china provide them to Pakistan its IRBM. whats next ICBM for them.

Anonymous said...

Hi Prasun,

1. Is it possible that China has already developed an ASBM (w/o testing it)Is china with its 10 recce satellites capable of launching its ASBMs against a carrier in future after they deploy them?
2.What about Iran testing an ASBM this feb based on chinse designs reported by the media?

How is the US going to counter them?

3.What will it mean for India?

4.What is india's stance on the SCO when China invites Pakistan to join it?

5.How does india actually view SCO from its inception? and will India leave it at some point since China calls the shots there?

6.What is India's stand on US bases in Afghanistan and US strategies of reconciliation with Taliban?

7.India seems to look positively at a TAPI pipeline from turkmnstn that US pushes while it seems to have killed the IPI.Why so?
Where does it leave the india's stance on NAM if it joins the US as a junior partner in this architecture with the US pushing into the central Asia?(citing security 4 pipelines US gets inv.)

How does india view its link with the C.Asia.
why does India accept an outsider to become involved and control a process which India could herself do? for which Afghanistan is the gateway as many in the media seem to believe?

10.If India is trying to slowly and quietly forge a partnership with the US,then many will accuse(Africa) india of having finally folded in front of the US and becoming the next Europe after 50 years of NAM.

11.Your thoughts on the Mid-east uprisings and security issues Israel faces .US responses and prediction of US policies in the regioon in the near future

12.Libyan war


buddha said...

its a honour to get valued answer from you

i want to know the status of india's procurement of 4 landing platform docks''
or will it be LHD Design .far more flexiable amphibious assault ship which can operate STOVL Fighters if needed.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To Anon@7.34AM: It pains me enormously to see that despite my best efforts to help you achieve enlightenment and illumination by explaining much earlier how exactly the DRDO functions and how project names are accorded, you’re still totally in the dark and probably are one of those ‘I wanna believe BR wannabes’. If indeed the DRDO was behind the ‘Arudhra’ R & D effort, then, just as in the case of the ‘Rohini 3-D CAR, the R & D effort involving the ‘Arudhra’ would have been appearing in both successive Annual reports of the MoD and DRDO publications. Even brochures of the ‘Arudhra’ would have been distributed at successive Aero India and DEFEXPO expos. But obviously you’ve failed miserably in trying to take the effort to understand the ‘process’ as I’ve outlined above and before. By merely according a local name to a system does not automatically make it a home-grown product. As a matter of fact, the IAF has already accorded a similar local name to the THALESRaytheon-built Ground Smarter GS-100 low-level transportable radars, whose induction process will also soon get underway. So does that, in your reasoning methodology, also make this a DRDO-developed radar? Kindly grow up, study, learn, listen and then make informed conclusions.

To Qamar: The VL-SAM used by the Type 054A Jiangkai-2 FFGs is the LY-80 E-SHORADS with 35km range. It is a cloned version of the 9M317 missile.

To Anon@3.58PM: The DF-21C MRBM is expected to replace the rather unsuccessful M-18/Shaheen-2 MRBM. Specs for the P-20 are more or less the same as those of the Iskander-E. India’s BMD system (meant to counter IRBMs and MRBMs) is still under development and it will not become operational at least for another eight years (primarily due to the unavailability of space-based reconnaissance satellites in adequate numbers). But theatre-level BMD systems built around the Barak-8 LR-SAM and EL/M-2248 MF-STAR AESA radar should be available earlier, by 2015.

To Anon@4.02PM: Pakistan’s Army and Air Force have been procuring Mi-17s for utility/air transportation purposes since the early 1990s.

To ANon@6.39PM: To the trained eye one mere look at even parts of the Arihant’s superstructure can reveal details like its design bureau and few OEM vendors. For a country whose industrial manufacturing sector accounts for a mere 15% of the country’s total GDP, achieving self-reliance in military-industrial production will always remain a pipe-dream.

To Anon@7.33PM: The DF-21B/C MRBMs located at northeastern Tibet are presently targetting northern and central India. China can provide DF-21Cs to Pakistan just like it had provided the M-18/Shaheen-2 MRBMs.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To Anon@8:39PM: There is no demonstrated test-firing as yet of as ASBM from China. But what could be the case is that just like the Shaurya, the DF-21D will be employed as a depressed trajectory hypersonic cruise missile against aircraft carriers. The only defence against such weapons is a multi-layered shipborne BMD system of the type now deployed with the navies of the US and Japan. In India’s case, the Barak-8 LR-SAM will be able to neutralize such threats. And in future airborne lasers mounted on both manned aircraft and UAVs like the Global Hawk will form an additional defensive layer.
The SCO is to China what SAARC is to India. India’s stance is that Pakistan should be a member of the SCO since most of the insurgents from the Central Asian Republics have been seeking sanctuary within Pakistan and the Central Asian Republics with China’s help can pressurize Pakistan to crack down on such insurgents, particularly those from the Russian Caucasus and Uzbekistan. I don’t think India will leave the SCO since countries like Afghanistan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan want India to remain within the SCO. As for India’s stance regarding Afghanistan and Central Asia you can obtain some interesting insights from the writings of well-informed and discerning former diplomats like M K Bhadrakumar in both THE HINDU and ASIA TIMES. Regarding the future of India-US relations and US efforts to make India into a world-recognised economic-cum-military superpower, the debate has been largely skewed against the US, with several Indian intellectuals and former military officials accusing the US of being over-patronising and trying to draw India within the US sphere of influence. Actually, all that the US has told India is: “the way things are going, while the US will retain its pre-eminance in the Western Pacific, the US influence in Southeast Asia will definitely decline, but not disappear over the next 50 years. Therefore, why not India, instead of China, fill the gap?” Regretfully, the Indian answer has at best been non-existent, leave alone being vague. Indian policymakers have not yet crafted a grand vision for India’s future role in Southeast Asian affairs and as a consequence of all this, China has now become the predominant power to be reckoned with in countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, Cambodia and Myanmar.
Regarding the situation in the Middle East and Israel’s threat perceptions, I will by early next week upload some thought-provoking analyses on how Israel is articulating the next round of RMA for its armed forces. It will make pretty interesting reading and provide a much welcome break from the kind of vague remarks that are made from time to time by India’s senior military decision-makers regarding RMA in South Asia.

To Buddha: The Indian Navy is looking at designs like the Mistral from DCNS and Dokdo from South Korea’s Hanjin. These vessels can be deployed as both LPDs and LHDs, depending on the mission. The Indian navy does not want such vessels to have on board any kind of STOVL combat aircraft. Instead, such vessels will be equipped with medium-lift helicopters and light attack helicopters that will enable naval infantry forces (that’s right, the MoD has already decided to do away with the Army’s so-called part-time amphibious Brigade and instead raise a dedicated naval infantry Brigade like the US Marine Corps’ expeditionary force) to undertake vertical envelopment operations in hostile territory. This is what the Indian Navy calls “effecting maritime manoeuvres from the sea”. Close air support and tactical air superiority will be provided by aircraft carrier-based combat aircraft like the MiG-29K and LCA (Navy).

Qamar said...

Thanks sir,