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Monday, November 1, 2021

General Atomics MQ-9B Sky Guardian & Sea Guardian MALE-UAV, LYNX-U NGFCS & PGM Avionics

146 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi Prasun,

This article says that the recent Agni-V missile test involved 2 MIRVs, was it so?

Also, why are missiles of similar sizes from other countries e.g. France has a much longer range than Agni-V, is it because the propellant used in our missile is not as good, or we are understating the range of Agni-V?

http://idrw.org/agni-v-ins-dhruv-played-a-crucial-role-in-the-recent-test/

Best Regards
Raj

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

https://bharatkarnad.com/2021/10/28/nuclear-wise-india-is-seriously-handicapped-by-govt/#comments

1) What do you think of this? Bharat Karnad claims MIRVs were not tested, and that no political clearance is forthcoming for the same.

2) Another analyst claims in comments to that article that India will meet Poland's fate in WW2 down the line, as when the time comes to use the nuclear deterrent, the US will convince India to back off to avoid destruction, leading to India's surrender to China and company.

3) Would'nt explicit MIRV testing be a better option to silence such critics/doubters of the credibility of India's deterrent?

Ashwatthama

Ranveer said...

Hind Prashant

https://youtu.be/rrD_7ORAX1k

Thanks

Ranveer

joydeep ghosh said...

@prasun da

i know you are a voracious reader, but your views on

1. The Fractured Himalaya: India Tibet China 1949-62'
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyY61bCqht0
3. https://theprint.in/opinion/why-the-chinese-build-up-at-lac-will-set-stage-for-a-permanent-solution/754029/

the last 2 are pretty depressing but would want your views on first bcoz I haven't got it

thanks
Joydeep ghosh

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

The General Purpose Machine Guns FMS and the SSS Defence Ak-47 upgrade deals seem very odd. Both are for Special Forces & the figures put out in public domain seem opaque. 400 crores for 700 odd machine guns & upgrades for just 24 Ak-47 assault rifles! How is the cost of a machine gun at nearly 60 lakhs per GPMG justifiable & how can such a measly upgrade for just 24 ARs be remunerative or cost-effective for either SSS Def or IA?!

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To RAJ: It is FAKE NEWS. France does not possess any ICBMs & its nuclear deterrent is now almost wholly SSBN/SLBM-based.

To ASHWATTHAMA: 1) FAKE Claim. 2) Delusional rants. 3) All in good time.

To JOYDEEP GHOSH: 1) Fractured Himalaya:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BlP3LOcPtA&t=200s

2) It will NOT be a permanent solution simply because China’s like India isn’t interested in holding on to real-estate in which not a blade of grass goes, but rather China wants to secure all land-based threats to the Shaksgam Valley & by consequence the CPEC that transits through PoJK. Anybody thinking otherwise & ASSUMING that a permanent solution to the China-India border issue is close at hand is being foolhardy & WHIMSICAL, kindly rest assured. In addition, China by 2024 will not feel the need to heavily defend its existing NH-219 Highway cutting through Aksai China since an under-construction national highway much further to the east starting from Xinjiang, cutting through the Taklamakan Desert & reaching Gartok in TAR will become operational by 2024 & there are also plans to also construct a high-speed railway line parallel to this national highway.

Afghanistan Ships 45 tonnes of Pine Nuts to China:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12p9_n4yXAg

China Rationing Diesel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy_uiSlgbIA

AI & Cyber Warfare in Indian Context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4hNlZ6BgrU&t=305s

Afghanistan Under Taliban: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILF4q-1Clwc

Anonymous said...

Sir, you response to JOYDEEP GHOSH,

1. Does that mean if we touch PoJK China touches us? (was it really all about winning elections- and making fool of the electorate)

2. Is taking of the PoJK by us a pipe dream?

3. What are the chances that LAC will become like the LoC, unless we back down? (Surely this will drain or resources and we will only be able to tackle Pakistan - are we back to 1960's again!!!)

RamB

just_curious said...

Prasun
1- China gulping doen Shaksgam Valley- You are saying that POJK will now be defended by china along with porkis? so any random hopes of recapturing GB & western Jammu(also called POJK) effectively is nil now.. shud admire the cunning minds of the porkis to involve chinese .. this is btw the classic modus operandi of the pakis, play 2 biggies against each other neither can win against the other & loot both..
2- Any strategic gains @G20 meet? Leonardo to come out of blacklisting? anyways wasn't the blacklisting going to expire anyways? ditto for Rhienmettal
3- what's happening in china .. first hi tech companies go under then real estate companies, then come the power cuts now the diesel rationing on one hand & releasing its crude reserves on the other
4- why does general atomics no sell guardian c - avenger.. is it banned for exports?

Sidharth said...

Prasun da,

In your last blog, you replied to Sanjeev and Chanakya that LACM is not available on both Project 15A and 15B DDGs.

IN does not have the LACM (Brahmos Naval version) or a different VLS will be required.

Sanjeev said...

Can you comment on the lynx U2 fire control system being produced by BEL? What’s the radar portion of it?

VJ said...

Prasunda,
Agni was tested multiple times in past but why is this ruckus in chines news media right now? Was it the first MIRVed test?

Unknown said...

Dear prasoon, you had replied as follows

"To UNKNOWN/KUNAL: It is a combination of patent-filing to secure the intellectual property rights, as well as an encryption system that is available for conditional release/sharing."

Could you suggest any documentation to understand this in more detail.

Regards

Kunal

asd said...

Dear Prasun,

As you have mentioned about the under construction national highway by China, what are its implications on India? How will India deal with China's aggressive posture to defend the land that gives India upper hand?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

CBI Chargesheet on Naval Corruption Case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QLDa0N_Zdg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2SW7XsB_cc

Wonderful & Educative Documentary on Brahmaputra River-based Eco-System in India & Bangladesh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2FRzsRrPgU&t=18s

India Defence Conclave 2021:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYJZFL9NJKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7cM9wrKon8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Yu9Tb3H7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O3wMjg7pC0

Wonderful intelligence assessments:

https://digital-commons.usnwc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1015&context=cmsi-maritime-reports

https://digital-commons.usnwc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014&context=cmsi-maritime-reports

Regretably, Indian institutions like IDSA, Institute of Chinese Studies & NMF continue to function at neolithic efficiency-levels, the latest being the recently-concluded 3-day webinar conducted by the NMF where the proceedings were uploaded en masse for each of the 3 days, without breaking up tghe individual sessions. Acts like these turn India into the world's laughng stock!

To SANJEEV: LYNX-U2 GFCS: https://bel-india.in/Products.aspx?MId=13&LId=1&link=69

To RAD: Upgraded Bofors L-70 AAA: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ya8U691G81A/WtKBpxHbdvI/AAAAAAAAOU4/VZNzIkDDjW4dFsBIS4ydyzflfJaT-U-XgCLcBGAs/s1600/BEL-upgraded%2BL-70%2BAAA-1.jpg

FSPU--the Primary Navigational Guidance System Usded for PGMs & LRGBs: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VQdj9M3F7YE/WtUE3r6wStI/AAAAAAAAObg/BC78_iD5n4EiLIbLduk25wgDxwWA65-rQCLcBGAs/s1600/FSPU.jpg

To KAUSTAV: MAN Diesel Engine: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KQhReYpCHHU/WtUFJHD1rZI/AAAAAAAAOb8/wS1iPpoHKLw9cVzFl0MiSvsUWyemVXojgCLcBGAs/s1600/MAN%2BDiesel%2BEngine%2Bfor%2BProject%2B17A%2BFFG.jpg

To ANUP: Wishing you & all your loved ones & fellow bloggers the very same.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To RAMB: 1) Yes. 2) Of course not. Where there is a will, there will always be a way. 3) Not possible, because not a blade of grass grows in those areas & hence neither side will expend resources on defending each & every inch of each other’s territories under their control.

To JUST_CURIOUS: 1) Refer to my reply above. 2) Leonardo & Theinmetall Groups will have ther blacklistings removed because the 10-year blacklisting period is now over. 3) Situation in China s getting worse & now the COVID-19 pandemic has entered the Forbidden City, as explained here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4To3KG1_2DY

4) The Avenger HALE-UAV is still undergoing developmental tests with additional on-board mission avionics like MAWS & IRST sensor fitments.

To SIDHARTH: The BrahMos-1s on board all IN warships are ASCM versions, not LACM versions.

To VJ: China has always commented whenever the Agni-V was test-fired.

Anubhav rai said...

How many of the Bofors L-70 were upgraded?

Thanks

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

https://news.usni.org/2021/11/01/investigation-concludes-uss-connecticut-grounded-on-uncharted-sea-mount-in-south-china-sea

Meanwhile, the situation is getting from bad to worse inside China:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OUYYKEGe6U&t=5s

Based on my controlled remote-viewing assessments, in the near future there will arise deep misgivings within the United Front Workers' Party (UFWP), which will be at extreme variance with the CPC's Princelings that dominate the CPC Politburo. The UFWP is likely to ally itself with the CPC faction led by former President Jiang Zemin, who has been extremely critical of how the Pincelings have dealt with Hongkong SAR, since the heavy-handed approach has only served to achieve reunification with Taiwan an impossibility from now on.

From an internal security standpoint, although Xinjiang & TAR have been sinicised, Inner Mongolia has resisted all such attempts & continues to be defiant. Hence, any probable internal haemmorhaging of the PRC will commence from Inner Mongolia & then spread to TAR & Xinjiang. Such haemorrhaging will cause Han China-dominated portions of China to choose sides: either align with the CPC or seek an alternate model that is far more closer to liberal & democratic Taiwan. It is this distinct prospect that caused the US to pivot to the Far East starting 2009.

For those who are unaware of controlled remote-viewing, here is an excellent explanation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1VX_W32mNM&t=275s

pm said...

https://youtu.be/ahKzbnqaTMg

Sir What are your opinions on this analysis.

Happy diwali to you and family

rad said...


hi prasoon
are we making man engines or assembling them?

Millard Keyes said...

Controlled remote viewing: isn't that activity termed as "peeping tom" ? LOLLZZZ As far as I know that is what they do he he he

Vedant said...

Have you ever seen about India in your remote seeing capability....?

Is the war about to happen
Will our nation ever become the leading force !?

Thanks
Happy diwali

Sarathi97 said...

@Prasun,da
1) In that 4th image that para sf soldier carrying a radio. Is that a Software defined mankpack or older radio set?
Last year you said sdr mannpack received bulk production order.
https://mobile.twitter.com/livefist/status/1455860507961794560?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

2) Do you know if integration of bnet sdr already began on our SU-30, mig, mirage? Or still testing?

Sanjay said...

Mr.Prasun

Happy Diwali to you and your loved ones.

Sanjay

Ashish Gautam said...

Happy diwali prasoon sir. Kaise ho aap??
Have been reading all ur posts n comments on them silently...
Sir an out of this thread context question I have, (1) the 1ton catogry bomb recently tested by DRDO Most probably I think Gaurav is its name, has what kinda guidance system? & What is its accuracy level? I mean CEP? I don't think it's LGB.
2) saw on SM that someone from DRDO told A1-Prime can hit moving targets too like aircraft carrier or big destroyers etc, is that true? If yes then what kinda guidance it's gonna use to achieve that level of accuracy??
3) kya IAF super Su30mki mei Israeli or French or Indian radar use Krna chah rahi hai? Coz they seems to be not interested in russian No.36 aesa bars radar I think. What's ur opinion? How they gonna operate foreign sourced radars in russian busses?? Or they gonna change entire wiring of aircraft during this deep upgrade.
4) sir why russian aircraft engines are not as good in performance as their Western counterparts?? Brain drain is reason or limited funding? Or simply coz Russians are not as good as westerners in this technology??

buddha said...

Wish you and your family a happy Deepavali .
Will the drone deal with US be materialised in this financial year.
Is Indian Navy still considering buying decomisoned US Austin class ships to fill the gap..
With Mr.Putin coming to India ,are the pending deals like sukhoi Upgradation
Mig 29 purchase 12 su-mki and 3 refurbished killo class submarine and AK203 gonna be fruitful.

Ranveer said...

Happy Diwali

Prasun da

Anonymous said...

Sirji,
Happy Diwali to you and your family.

1.) It looks like in the recent DAC meeting, decision has been made to not purchase the Mk 45 guns.
2.) The test of EO variant SAAW. How is it different ?
3.) Why don't armies around the world prefer not using long range cruise missiles ?

-Bhvk

Sanjeev said...

Finally the order for 12 lsp LUH has been approved. When do you think the larger contract for both IAF and IA will be signed? Also when is LCH’s time coming?

Parthasarathi said...

Prasunda,
Take my word Pakistan will try sell another piece of land at POJK to China to minimise it's debt. May be the area near Siachin glacier and adjacent will be offered. But not sure whether China will buy or not !
Pakistan is on verge of sovereign dafult. Greece was saved by Germany let's see who is going to save Pakistan.
Best regards.

The Sanatani Bhartiya said...

Prasun,
Wishing you and your family a very happy and prosperous Diwali!

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To KAUSTAV: The contract calls for upgrading close to 8,000 AK-47s & also equipping them with various types of sights. Presently, about 200,000 AK-47s are being used by the RR & various CAPFs.

https://theprint.in/defence/hal-choppers-get-defence-ministry-nod-in-bid-to-replace-cheetah-chetak-kamov-hangs-in-balance/760653/

https://theprint.in/defence/cds-rawat-asks-defence-forces-to-submit-theatre-command-studies-by-april-2022/760897/

https://theprint.in/defence/navy-gives-private-firm-first-defence-order-for-india-made-lsraeli-pistols/760703/

https://theprint.in/opinion/why-the-chinese-build-up-at-lac-will-set-stage-for-a-permanent-solution/754029/

https://theprint.in/opinion/the-weight-of-dead-indian-soldiers-is-also-on-missing-body-armour-army-needs-them-now/757839/

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/amrullah-saleh-asks-ashraf-ghani-to-release-tapes-on-peace-talks-with-khalilzad-101635856127326.html

To ANUBHAV RAI: 400 L-70s & 48 ZSU-23-4 Schilkas upgraded, with 464 ZU-23-2s awaiting upgradation.

To PM, SANJAY, BUDDHA, BHVK, RANVEER & THE INDIAN: And the very same to you & all your loved ones. In fact, the term ‘Diwali’ is a corrupted one & it should be DEEPAVALI. For Bengalis, however, on this day the Goddess Kali is worshipped & venerated.

To RAD: It is mostly licensed final-assembly from kits brought to India is SKD condition. More information is available here: https://india.man-es.com/aboutus

To MILLARD KEYES: Not quite. ‘Peeping Tom’ requires eyes on the target, whereas remote-viewing involves the application of consciousness on the target.

To UNKNOWN: Not just about any country, but the entire cosmos.

To SARATH97: 1) That is the BEL-built STARS-V Mk.3 Backpack:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MnVDVqDBSdA/WKorSOSdx-I/AAAAAAAAMdo/T8L5x2ny_Kok8Sgz4hjpfhALZrpb1UY1ACLcB/s1600/STARS-V%2Bmanpack%2Bradio-1.jpg

2) Integration work was completed back in 2019 itself.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To BUDDHA: Hopefully the Sky Guardians & Sea Guardans will be ordered before the end of this financial year. There are no plans for leasing any ex-US Navy LPDs. The Super Su-30MKI upgrade & additional MiG-29UPG contracts should be inked this financial year.

To BHVK: 1) The intention was NEVER to purchase the BAE Systems Mk.45 Mod.3 naval guns. Instead, the US Navy has offered to lease to the IN 13 such guns. It is the delusional ‘desi patrakaars’ who are spreading FAKE NEWS like ths:

https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/1455446432941363209

2) Again, there is no EO variant. Instead, there are 2 variants: DEW variant & a variant with conventional warheads, the slides of which I have uploaded above. Again, it is the delusional ‘desi patrakaars’ who are spreading FAKE NEWS like ths:

https://www.livefistdefence.com/india-tests-new-version-of-precision-anti-airfield-munition/

GPS locational updates, be it for the SAAW or PG-HSLD (see the uploaded slides above) are obtained only for mid-course guidance, not terminal homing. Hence GPS locational update data is fed directly to the inertial navigation systems of asll PGMs while either an RF sensor (X-band or W-band) or optronic sensor (TV, IIR seeker or laser homing) is used for terminal homing. There’s no such thing as ‘default’ GPS guidance system.

3) Because armies don’t have the ISR capabilities reqd for monitoring such long-range strikes. Hence, only navies & air forces use such LRCMs.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SANJEEV: Just look at the stupidity of the way the LCH & LUH procurements are structured. How the hell can such platforms be certified for flight operations at the specified altitudes when their respective MTOWs have not yet been established? And the MTOW cannot be established unless & until such platforms have on-board the self-protection suites (RWR, LWR MAWS & countermeasures dispensers), full weapons loads (the HELINA ATGM is still to be qualified on the LCH) & the COMPASS chin-mounted FLIR turret + 2.75-inch rocket pods + Mistral ATAM on the LUH, which will also be employed by the IA as a recce/scout helicopter. Despite all such hardware lacking on the LCH & LUH, how can they be committed to limited series-production (LSP)? Sound common-sense dictates that LSPs are built ONLY AFTER the final design configuration is frozen. Hence, the actions of the MoD’s DAC only serve to make India the world’s laughing stock. And adding insult to injury are ill-informed commentaries from delusional ‘desi patrakaars’, like this:

https://www.livefistdefence.com/exclusive-at-worlds-highest-helipad-indias-luh-declares-its-ready-again/

To ASHISH GAUTAM: 1) In this video you will find all the performance parameters of the two LRGBs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmbmGVOFOoA&t=87s

Separately, I have also uploaded slides above that will give you a very good idea about all the avionics that go on board missiles & PGMs. 2) Till this day, no one in the world has demonstrated a strike by BMs against any moving target, either on land or at sea. 3) That is an impossibility since the entire flight-control system & weapons-control system of the Su-30MKI make use of an encrypted software that is not compatible with NATO-type software & since Russa won’t share the source-codes or IPRs for such software, the question of opting for a non-Russia-origin MMR for the Super Su-30MKI does not even arise. Only IT-ignorant & utterly delusional internet fanboys will continue fantasizing about MMRs from Israel, India or from anywjhere else going on board any combat aircraft of Russia-origin. 4) Because the Russians since the days of the USSR have had financial resource shortages due to which they never ‘gold-plated’ their hardware for the sake of obtaining long TTSLs.

Sanjeev said...

When will all of this equipment be integrated with LUH and LCH?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SANJEEV: When? Your guess is as good as mine. All I can say is that until the LUH & LCH are flight-tested in fully weaponised mode, they will not be worthy of receiving their respective airworthiness certifications. Or, the DRDO & HAL could once again be monkeying the same way as they did with the LCA Tejas Mk.1, i.e. offer the LCH & LUH in IOC & FOC configurations--which is IDIOTIC. Sound common-sense should have dictated that pending the availability of HELINA ATGMs, the IA & iAF should have armed the Rudra, LCH & LUH with 9K121 Vikhr laser-guided ATGMs that the IAF already possesses for its Mi-25/Mi-35P attack helicopters.

To KAUSTAV, ASD & BUDDHA: An excellent programme aired yesterday on the ancient city of Ujjain (Avanti), through which the 0-degree Longitude used to pass until 1885, when the colonial Brits in an act of daylight robbery transferred the Prime Meridien to Greenwich:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhcIDiackZU

In fact, the Europeans like Portuguese & Spaniards until 1498 could not conduct trans-ocean shipping voyages & consequently suffered from several shipwrecks whenever trying to navigate through the deep seas & oceans. It was only after Vasco Da Gama landed in India did the Europeans gain access to accurate marine stellar navigation charts using Avanti as the 0-degree Longitude location. But surprisingly, none of the IN officers (retired & serving) who I have met thus far had any knowledge of ths historical factoid, which is most shameful. Nor are such factoids reflected in any official IN publications that dwell upon India’s maritime history & heritage—again amost regretful state of affairs. Perhaps this is all due to legacy issues like the colonial Brits writing India’s history, which continues to be taught till this day. And that’s why while such historical narratives record ancient events, they never give the dates/timelines of ancient events. In reality, there is now ample verifiable proof about how European faith-based astronomers totally screwed-up the Epoch-based timelines of ancient India, ancient Greece, ancient Persia & even got the date-of-birth of Jesus Christ wrong, and the eras of Gautam Buddha & of Alexander of Macedonia as explained in these presentations:

Debunking 1 AD Epoch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C9YFJJmu4M&t=2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PPJT9P7tZQ

Saka Era Datelines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Qbs1HuiYs&t=24s

Sanjeev said...

I’ve read multiple helina tests from ALH for some time now. Is it still not qualified? What’s holding it up?

Anonymous said...

Sirji,

1.) Can this Lynx-U be replaced by Atulya FCR in future ?
2.) Didn't HAL showed a Desi weapons control system for the Super Sukhoi program during previous defence expo ?
3.) What radar will be used for VL-SRSAMs by the navy ?
4.) What additional changes will be required for LCH to be used in future from LHDs.
5.) Maybe its time the GOI set up Vedic institutes across the world and employ Indologists to bring out these facts.

-Bhvk

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

Indeed, the teaching of history by western bias & British colonial mindset has distorted & destroyed too much of Indian history making it seem like mythology. THANKS again for highlighting the Prime Meredian theft & the other perfidy of wilful destruction of our history designation everything as mythology and folk tales.

A Query on the proposed DAE Small Modular Reactors (SMRs) building on the experience gained from developing the PWRs half-boat S1 & subsequent S2 (Arihant), S3 & S4.

Will / Can India use such SMRs to power Indian Armed Forces Bases as the US has already started to do giving them a compact, reliable & powerful captive power supply which would require low maintenance & negligible refuelling?!

Anonymous said...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lkfv9IihIaQ

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SANJEEV: The publicised firing trials were conducted only at Pokhran & Jaisalmer. More such trials need to be conducted over Ladakh, Sikkim & Arunachal Pradesh before CEMILAC an issue the certification of airworthiness for both the Rudra WSI, the LCH and HELINA.

To BHVK: 1) Where’s the need for it? The Lynx is a standalone NGFCS for naval guns only & BTW the original design of this NGFCS came from Swiss company Oerlikon Contraves, which is now owned by Rheinmetall Defence of Germany. 2) Not weapon control system, but weapons management computer. Data on it was uploaded by me in the DEFEXPO-2020 thread in this blog. 3) This one:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RlyHAKakU3s/XSOeEJinxaI/AAAAAAAARZk/ZQoQdiYSzjwRKqRXByzRV0bcSPN3fj_dACLcBGAs/s1600/Pharos%2BNaval%2BRadar%2Bfrom%2BBEL-THALES.jpg

4) Nothing. 5) That won’t happen. Instead money will be spent on Aasthaa-specific gimmicks like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQpniMCd1nA

Bottomline: Nothing will be done to mentor or encourage the creation of scientific temprement on such issues.

To KAUSTAV: VMT. 1) What is far more worrisome to me is the sheer apathy of our own citizens, inclusive of the various political dspensations, who Instead prefer to spend money on Aasthaa (blind faith)-specific gimmicks like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQpniMCd1nA

You will find a lot of information on the state of R & D on SMRs & FBRs in India here:

https://www.nuclearasia.com/news/dae-working-small-modular-reactors-kn-vyas/3307/

https://southasianvoices.org/prospects-for-small-modular-reactors-in-india/

PLAGF propaganda videos on habitats in high-altitude areas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghhvab8RW4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdichX-eW0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWAyQAa99TQ

PLAGF propaganda videos on exercises in high-altitude areas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aZl4r-1u1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P-67ePp0cU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSKPQfppP00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VkF5fJ_qJw

CCTV’s animation of Agni-V ICBM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkJgUmfLX3s

And what is the guy’s source of funds for undertaking periodic junkets abroad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4V0eg0F8Yw

I suppose he’s going there to meet the Bhandaris & Ravi Shankarans.

And finally, a typical example of brain-dead actions of the present-day political dispensation in India, i.e. how the hell can State Investigation Agency be created for a Union Territory?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDIRcLKVkAU2SBh?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDIRcLKVkAYXBUm?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDIRcLLVQAQ2-yM?format=jpg&name=large

Karnflakes said...

Sir .. what do you think of this
https://youtu.be/BEWz4SXfyCQ

Karnflakes said...

He claims to have worked on what appears to be a gravity reactor from an alien craft.

rad said...

Stop using my name - your usage of PRASOON gives it away that it is the famous "Unknown - Kunal". So it is you using other people's name in your comments for example Sanjay!

Millard Keyes said...

remote-viewing involves the application of consciousness on the target."- hmmm that is what many men and male teenagers do whilst flogging their ponies in private ha ha ha ha (sorry these days of feminism a lot of lesbians and women do too)

Sanjeev said...

Reading reports that Hal helicopter factory in tumkur will be operational coming March. Is that true?

Gagandeep said...

Belated Happy Diwali Prasun da ! There was a thread going on in another forum in which some pro-US analysts were claiming that if France sells Barracuda SSNs to India (following formation of AUKUS and selling of Nuclear Submarine tech to Australia), they will have to be refueled every 7 years. They implied that Russian SSNs have also to be refueled after a few years. But US SSN tech is supreme and nuclear fuel in their submarines lasts 25 years. You, on the other hand, had written that Arihant and Arighat use Russia supplied U-235 fuel and these SSBNs will have to be refueled after 17 years. Simultaneously you had stated that this fuel is 22 percent enriched in core and 45 percent enriched in outer areas, but for our SSNs, fuel will have to be 60 percent enriched since they have greater speed and pick-up. So does that mean our SSNs will also need to be refueled after 25 years (since fuel is 60 percent enriched) and Russian tech is no way inferior than that of USA?

AMIT BISWAS said...

Some internet experts were hell bent on proving integration of French/British origin IIR missiles onboard su 30 mki..is it true??

Santosh said...

Is india working on ramjet powered artillery shell program?

voiceoftheneglected said...

https://youtu.be/gGSh4SiwtIY?t=1227

i. Former IA RR CO saying at the time of kargil war he had to pick tourist maps to find way to the forward base
ii. RR being the porters and coffin carriers for the 13 JAK RAF

Seems like there is problem in mindset of military and political leadership.
Like a procrastination mindset and not prepared at all .
So any move (even obvious) by the enemy always ends in surprise.


Questions

1) After 22 years has the situation improved for Indian armed forces (Air force, Navy, Army) or we still overestimating ourselves ?
2) Doenst the IA /IAF/IN have any peacetime KPIs to achieve for every quarter ? eg: Improve capabilities in reconaissance in 3 months , Degrade PA SSG capabilities in 6 months
2) With this mindset & PLA and PA at the borders with all their sophisticated weapons forget offensive but we cannot even defend ourseleves professionally , what do you think ?
3) another biggest concern is Internal security - India very poor in handling this 5th+6th generation warfare .... large fires in soft targets + enemy made floods + cyber warfare (top military person laption wiped clean) + huge protests + covid new strains + crash of planes + military leaks + drones dropping weapons and drugs across IB
As far i understand the plan for enemy is to distract you at the border with all weapons and occasional tactical punches . But the real aim is to break the country using the Internal security weakness . How to stop this internal bleed ?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To KARNFLAKES: These provide far greater insights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV1N4m3sm7Q&t=60s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IMUG9ZhohM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0iZN_Wri34

The powerplant is known as an anti-matter/total annihilation reactor that works at 100% efficiency rate, i.e. ZERO energy wastage & does not leave any residue behind. Fuel used is Element-115 that changes to Element-116 after the reaction. The reactor is football-sized & one can even put one’s hand inside it while it is working & no adverse effects will take place. Such powerplants can be developed in other world’s where the laws of physics are totally different from those of Earth because in other world’s there exist totally different kinds of terra-forma & materials/minerals & consequently totally different laws of the physical sciences & mathematics.

And here’s a recent 6-part NETFLIX series on the UAP:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x857g9m
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x857gbz
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8580g7
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x858vpg
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x85b93c
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x85b93n

To SANJEEV: It better be. The new helicopter manufacturing plant is at Biderehalla Kaval, Gubbi Taluk, Tumakuru district, for which Indian PM NaMo had laid the foundation stone on January 3, 2016. The project is spread over 615 acres of land. Modi had then expressed confidence that the plant would be roll out the first helicopters produced there by 2018. You can check out the plant’s construction via GoogleEarth at this locational coordinate: 13 19 49.98 N, 76 48 25.78 E

While the AFS at Sulur (11 0 28.70 N, 77 9 6.48 E) serves well as an LCA Mk.1 flight conversion centre, it will be better if the National Flight-Test Centre relocates from Bengaluru to the DRDO’s instrumented flight-test range at Chitradurga (14 23 16.01 N, 76 34 25.25 E).

To GAGANDEEP: And the very same to you & all your loved ones. As I had explained earlier, the fuel used by India’s homegrown SSGNs use moderately enriched uranium (not highly enriched, which is anything above 60% enrichment) & consequently the PWRs will have to be refuelled avery 13 years. Even France’s Barracuda-class SSGNs used above 60% HEU & hence refuelling will be reqd only after 25 years of service of the Barracuda SSGNs. Anyone claiming that such SSGNs of France require refuelling every 7 years is clearly deluded & is not aware of the official figures/performance parameters quoted by both the French MoD & the Naval Group.

To VOICEOFTHENEGLECTED: Those are days of a bygone era. Matters are far better today. Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOxwLcQ1dVw&t=15s

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To AMIT BISWAS: Well, such delusional internet fanboys—be they ‘desi’ or ‘phoren’—indulge in such irrational theatrics because they simply can’t tell the difference between NATO-Standard MIL-STD-1553B & MIL-STD-1760 digital databuses & their Russian counterparts, i.e. GOST 26765.52-87 & GOST R 52070-2003. All such databuses make use of encrypted software so that their source-codes cannot be extracted. But then, such fanboys will claim that if Vympel R-73E SRAAM can be integrated with IAF Mirage-2000’s weapons management computer, then why can’t Meteor BVRAAM or AIM-132 ASRAAM be integrated with Su-30MKI? Such technologically absurd questions are in turn fed by equally irrational news-reports like this:

“But mating the R-73 missile to the DASH helmet was easier said than done. "There were key challenges," says an IAF officer aware of the integration challenges. "This was a new helmet and we were working without source codes." In other words, algorithms had to be developed for the radar of the Mirage and the Israeli helmet mounted sight to "talk" to the Russian missile. Without proper algorithms and modified software, the integration of the Russian missile would have been impossible. "Neither French nor Russian help was taken. They were obviously upset," says the IAF officer but the 'jugaad' itself worked. "The R-73 missile was more capable than the Magic II that it replaced." Eventually, the integration did take place, with more than a little help from engineers from the Israeli firm Elbit, which, by then, had been contracted by the IAF to supply its sophisticated DASH helmet-mounted display.”

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/iafs-french-mirage-2000-fly-with-russian-r-73-missiles-thanks-to-israeli-jugaad-2067318

What this idiotic ‘desi patrakaar’ & equally idiotic internet fanboys can’t figure is that by 2005 itself the DASH HMDS had been integrated with the R-73E SRAAM for the LCA Tejas Mk.1 project & hence all that needed to be done was to set up a parallel MIL-STD-1760 interface encrypted software into the Mirage-2000’s weapons management computer (that also used NATO-Standard MIL-STD-1553B avionics interface software that was always available to Iserael as well) without disturbing the encrypted MIL-STD-1760 software originally installed by THALES on the IAF’s Mirage-2000s. This is also how the Popeye Lite/Crystal Maze & Litening-2 LDPs were integrated with the Mirage-2000’s weapons management computer back in 1999.

But can a similar approach be undertaken with Su-30MKIs? Absolutely not, because no Non-Russia avionics/weapons manufacturing OEM has access to GOST 26765.52-87 & GOST R 52070-2003 databuses. Even the DARE-developed mission computer & two processors used by the NO-11M ‘Bars’ PESA-MMR make use of Russia-encrypted GOST 26765.52-87 & GOST R 52070-2003 databuses & since Russia hasn’t shared their source-codes with India, integration of non-Russia-origin weapons with the Su-30MKI’s weapons management computer is impossible, unless India pays a hefty financial fee to Russia to undertake such integration (which India did in order to integrate the Litening LDP & Popeye Lite/Crystal Maze PGM with the Su-30MKI). That’s why till this day all Su-30MKI & MiG-29UPG pilots continue to use the heavier SURA-M HMDS instead of the much lighter DASH/TARGO from Elbit Systems.

Cont'd below...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

I still remember that back in 2011 itself when I had stated that the LCA Tejas Mk.1's airframe had sub-optimal design characteristics & only a fuselage length increase of 1 metre will rectify the shortcomings, the 'desi' internet fanboys in various chat-forums went on an overdrive against me. However, I had the last laugh when back in February 2017 itself the then ADA Director Ret'd Commodore Balaji had to admit that a 1-metre fuselage extension was reqd & that this will be done on the LCA Mk.2, which is today's MWF. Therefore, as far as the 'desi' internet fanboys go, I can emphatically state that they are unrelenting, unending & totally consistent in showing their total disrespect for the laws of physics & mathematics.

Raghu said...

Hi Prasun

Ban on Leonardo lifted with conditions.

What next? Will the Black Shark be ordered or the French F21? Hopefully, navy can look to purchase the 127mm gun too.

Regards

Raghu

just_curious said...

Prasun,

1--S korea trying to sell F50 to slovakia .. best bit-- S korea has a separate engagement with central european countries.. shouldnt india learn & have the followng sub grouping in parallel to just engaging EU leadership in brussels? My take --India needs separate desks for - 1) central & eastern eu for countries like - Czech, slovakia, austria, belgium, poland, hungary, romania -these have a soft corner for india 2) south eu desk -- greece, serbia, armenia, georgia, croatia, slovenia, portugal, macedonia, bulgaria & montenegro- All have a troubles past with islam & the turks - again like minded can sympathize with us 3) Nordic desk- all nordic countries- deep pocketed & tech savvy, 4) baltic desk- all baltic nations ... these countries can offer both great industrial knowhow as well as a great mkt.. A side benefit of engaging them outside of the EU is that thay can be used in case EU acts funny against India. And finally a separate desk for the deep pockets & influential lot --- France, Germany, Netherlands, Swiss, Spain & Italy
2 - with the recent naval leaks, how bad are these kind of incidents as compared with other major countries. whatz lacking? what needs to done to prevent such incidents in the future.
fun trivia .. most such cases are a result of honey trapping :)
3 - Will India buy barracudda SSN?
4- will any decision be made on Ka226T during Putin's visit? & hoe will rusia react if heli project is cancelled? also whathappened to the planned upgrades o IL76/78 to MD 90A stds, 10 KA 31 AEW's and upgrades to existing ones? will the current bhishma tanks be upgraded to provy3M or MS stds? any chance of Armata being brought in the future?
5- Defence apart, why isn't India engaging Russia in other spheres esp manufacturing or electronics , trade etc , joint R&S in green tech and other areas- eg pharma.. while OVl is doing some small stuff in the artic there seems to be no real effort to engage Russia in that way.. it will be a win win as russia by itself is not seen as a great trading partner by many countries for consumable goods

just_curious said...

Prasun,
1-- why hasn't the IN opted for integrated mast for the new 4 talwar class ships? russia already has those on type 20385/86
2-- with the disintegration of the OFB & imminent signing of Ak 203 what is the status of the OFB 7.62x 39 mm rifle that was being developed? recent comments by kalashnikov spokesperson that some sections of paramilitary have been opting for ak 15 --http://idrw.org/exclusive-indian-made-ak-203-can-be-exported-ak-15-popular-among-indian-paramilitary-kalashnikov/
3-- will canada play ball --http://idrw.org/india-asks-canada-to-list-separatist-outfit-sikhs-for-justice-as-terrorist-entity/ .. if not, what actions should india do to make canada see light ..same question should go for the germans, brits & some nordic states who have gained notoriety in hosting anti state elements from other countries under the garb of human rights . wonder if this is ever firmly brought up with the EU..
4-- what position would Russia take if china attacks Taiwan? same Q for Asean as they will logicaly be next.. i know this is highly unlikely.. its too high a cost for the chinkies
5-- if all the latest processor chips are manufactured either by taiwa or the west, what is the source of these for the russians esp post the sanctions? or are the russians deprived of the latest chips are lag behind in a big way? Also has anyone shown any concrete interest in the chip mfg PLI scheme?
6--recent report of the naval scam about sindhudurgh class.. it is reported that the info was being old to South koreans.. wonder where do they fit in the larger scheme of things in espionage world? were they carrying out a job for the americans?

Ranveer said...

Prasun da

Few questions arise from your explanation above.

1)Is the Magic-2 AAM still in service?

2) Didn't the Popeye Lite/Crystal Maze come after 1999 maybe around 2004?

3)Is Su-30MkI compatible with Crystal Maze/Popeye Lite?

4)Is Su-30MkI compatible with Spice-2000?

5)Do we have Spice-2000 in service or Spice-1000 or both?

Thanks

Ranveer

Just_curious said...

Prasun,
Turkey test fired a long range Sam called siper which is advertised to have similar characteristics to the Barak er. How is turkey funding these defence projects with a crashed lira..and why isn't EU worried with these developments given Erdogan's caliphate fantasies?

rad said...


HI prasun'
if the flight control and mission control software of the su-30 was encrypted how on earth did the chinks get to that> they seem to be building more fighter as the time goes.

DAshu said...

It seems people here enjoy asking the same question again & again repeatedly.

Sanjeev said...

Heard shaurya missile is being okayed for induction. Is it true? If so how many missiles will be inducted? And in what timeline?

Ankit Kumar said...

https://twitter.com/DefPROMumbai/status/1457521227996676097?t=fXqIUKAQmyzaPTGSoTBL5A&s=09

INS Trishul with a 76mm SRGM instead of the A190E she had originally. Are there problems with the 100mm A190E main canon?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To RAGHU: After this development, Leonardo’s subsidiary companies like WAAS & OTOBreda wll be able to supply Black Shark HWTs, C-303 torpedo countermeasures systems & 127mm naval guns, as well as provide product-support for the IAC-1’s RAN-40L air-search radar.

To JUST_CURIOUS: 1) India will find it IMPOSSIBLE to penetrate either eastern or central Europe, leave alone the Nordic/Scandinavian countries in the military arena since the US, West Europeans & Scandinavian countries have extremely strong presence there. The Baltic countries are a no-gpo area for India for fear of offending Russia. 2) This incident is a classic case of corruption involving Indian companies competing against one another to become the authorised agents/representatives of Russia-based OEMs. The notion that the awarding of contracts to India-based vendors will prevent corruption is a totally discredited one & we all saw how some Indian OEMs were blacklisted in the previous decade for using unfair means to secure sub-contracts for the Arjun MBT production programme. 3) Of course not, due to the reasons I had repeatedly explained earlier. 4) Ka-226T project is a dead horse & was buried a long time ago. Decision on other upgradation projects has already been taken & some of those cntracts are ready for signing. 5) Simply because India prefers to adhere to Western certification standards for all kinds of products. 6) Tinkering with the basic Project 1135.6 FFG superstructure would have jacked up costs to prohibitive levels. The first two FFGs were already built & were awaiting only their powerplants & hence they were procured at cheaper prices. 7) OFB Ishapore had developed the 7.62 x 51 Ghaatak SLR. 8) It all depends on what kind of evidence the NIA can furnish. 9) Russia has already stated that China will never attack Taiwan by military means. 10) Russia had always manufactured its own microchips. 11) FAKE NEWS.

To ANUP: No to both.

To RANVEER: 1) Matra R-550 Magic-2 was retired from service by 2010. 2) In 2002 with the first Batch of 50 Su-30MKIs. 3) Yes. 4) Yes. 5) Both.

To RAD: It was all explained here:

http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2015/12/from-varyag-to-liaoning-cv-16-untold_2.html

China had a free-run in Ukraine from 1991 till 2014 due to Ukraine’s domestic chaos & mismanagement, which is very clearly & lucidly explained in this documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srCuoG9ECMQ

To DASHU: Yes, that does seem to be the case & the frequency is increasing.

Wonder what the GoI’s response will be to such barbaric attacks on Indian fisherfolk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHQmhfQtdOg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNREghAzBCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGcxgNExN7U

Is India The Next China: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKNPP8nwD_E

Military Build-up in Great Nicobar Island: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMR8WoccLZ4

To SANJEEV: FAKE NEWS. It is actually the Prahar SS-BSM & that will be followed by the Pralay SS-BSM.

To KAUSTAV: SMRs Explained: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbrT3m89Y3M

Raghu said...

Dear Prasun,

Given the hue and cry the current ruling dispensation made over the alleged corruption in the helicopter deal, even to the extent of pointing fingers at the Gandhi family indirectly, it is surprising that the opposition has been quiet on the current developments, specially the Indian National Congress.

Hopefully, our leaders and politicians of all hues have learnt a lesson from this experience as to how adversely it affects the armed forces

Regards

Raghu

Sanjeev said...

Thanks for the reply Prasun. A few more questions
1. Whats the latest on Shaurya? Has it been shelved?
2. Do-228 upgrade given go ahead. Will this bring them to do-228ng level?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ANKIT KUMAR: The earlier Ratep JSC 5P-10E Puma NGCS/Arsenal AK-176 combination has been replaced with Lynx NGFS/OtoBreda 76/62 SRGM. The 100mm A-190E is on board only the three Project 15 DDGs.

To RAGHU: Not quite, because UNHRC & the European Parliament have now officially taken by the case of Christian Michel’s unending incarceration in Tihar Jail. And ‘Pappu’ RG’s ongoing stay in the UK is no coincidence either, rest assured. Only the ‘desi patrakaars’ are not reporting such developments due to self-imposed censorship.

To SANJEEV: 1) Shourya BM was just a technology demonstrator. Both the IA & IAF prefer SS-BSMs. 2) Yes. Let’s see which MMR gets selected. Can well be the Selex Seaspray-5000 series AESA. Because this DRDO-developed 'Sea Vision' MMR is clearly obsolete now:

https://www.drdo.gov.in/maritime-patrol-radar

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

Thanks Sir, for your excellent research capabilities and kind response. Your blog remains as always very enlightening thanks to your interest & response. I too had discovered one such but it was more to do with small nuclear reactors, obviously relevant to the SMR https://youtu.be/UJ_b8y0LbMw

But the link provided by you above & previous material is more to the point on Nuclear Small Modular Reactors

Thanks & Regards

Kaustav

Anonymous said...

US DOD Report states that PLA has 1250 GLBMs & GLCMs.How many ballistic & cruise missiles does India have?

Thanks.
AMAN

just_curious said...

PRASUN,

Mediapart rears its head again .. RG on his well deserved "break" in UK :) possible link between the 2?

Glaginye said...

Prasunda,

The latest pics released on Weibo are pretty damning. Looks staged but we are so behind in this information warfare. What are your thoughts? It also looks like PLA got a pretty good thrashing in Tawang or why would they release such pics.

Unknown said...

Dear Prasun,
Recently watched doc about Tarapur nuclear power plant 3 & 4. They say it is fully indigenous system & they have training simulation for reactor control. I think it's pretty advanced. How much of the reactor/power plant components are locally made. Who supplied training simulation.
What prevent as from exporting our technology to other countries ( except political beurocracy). If exported can we able to supply the required fuel for the reactors or we need other supplier from international market.
Do you think 540MW is under powered considering export market is filled with above 1000MW reactors.
We have 40 years of PHWR design and operation expertise, 540MW design is under rated I think. Why we are going very slow in indigenous atomic energy. Where do you think we need to improve to speed up our 3 stage nuclear power program & what are the hurdles.

Raghu said...

Hi Prasun

Look at this now. Why do these kind of reports keep coming up every now and then?

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/mediapart-dassault-aviation-used-false-invoices-to-bribe-middleman-for-sale-of-rafale-to-india/articleshow/87582251.cms#_ga=2.47954215.149916425.1636366948-amp-ksSZJ8wcCLuqXHxbN487lg

Hope it does not derail any of IAF's ongoing or perspective procurement

Regards

Raghu

DAshu said...

"‘Pappu’ RG’s ongoing stay in the UK is no coincidence either, rest assured"- more on this, please.

Why are they propping him as no matter what hands down BJP is getting one more term for sure at the center?

SUJOY MAJUMDAR said...

Prasunda, in this latest article Saurav Jha argues that to be effective against PLA, India's coming Rocket Force will need tactical ballistic missiles that can prosecute targets at ranges of upto 2,000 kms away.

Your take on this.

https://thediplomat.com/2021/11/indias-coming-rocket-force/

Thank You
Sujoy

VIKRAM GUHA said...

PrasunDa,

Hope you and all your loved ones enjoyed Kali Pujo and Diwali.

Was listening to India's Defence Secretary's interview so a question came to mind.

Defence Secretary said today that they have received good response on the Indian Navy's P-75I submarines RFP from both the OEMs and the strategic partners as well. Bids will be evaluated shortly.

Assuming this deal does go through, what strategy/strategies can TKMS adopt to make their bid the most attractive?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To KAUSTAV: VMT. Here are a few more:

Outlook for Nuclear Power in India: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kessQozbbA

700mWT PHWR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta9_8-0Wsgs

Thorium, India's Solid-Fuel Approach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTFOzHsbvAE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGhEdcwXxdE

Meanwhile, the PN’s first Type 054A FFG was commissioned yesterday:

PNS Tughril 261 FFG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWnWRW-35c4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-c87xVUWzU

To AMAN: Here’s the full list:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDTHn_ZVQAEU_pW?format=png&name=900x900

India’s missile holdings are substantially lower.

To GLAGINYA: What it goes to prove is that China does not feel the need to adhere to international conventions to which it is a signatory. Release of such images/photos will only hurt China more, rest assured. The PLA has till this day not claimed its combatants who were killed in 1967 during the Nathu La military clashes & their marked graves are still there for all to see at the sites where the clashes took place.

To UNKNOWN: Unless India gains full entry into the Nuclear Suppliers’ Group (NSG), such PHWRs—no matter how good they are—will not be ordered by any other country. And China is holding up India’s full-spectrum entry into the NSG.

To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: LoLz! Looks like the internet fanboys still can’t tell the difference between BMs & SS-BSMs & consequently wrongly label SS-BSMs like the Prithvi SS-150 & Prthvi-2 as BM!

I had already explained in great detail the future rocket artillery reqmts in the following 2 threads:

https://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2020/04/punitive-targetted-medium-field.html

http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2018/10/from-prithvi-to-pralay.html

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RolnRcp3lMw/Xp5G3GkzD6I/AAAAAAAATH0/-4zzUtLma04m-GPSuBD-8phVa8cibnUAwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Lockheed%2BMartin%2BPrSM.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GG-JE7fJOcs/Xp5G99nKyhI/AAAAAAAATH4/kahYy4Pca58VOohzbisZn8ofSKM4ojOsACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Raytheon%2BDSM.jpg

To VIKRAM GUHA: And the very same to you & all your loved ones. Wasn’t this the very same Defence Secretary who had claimed that Malaysia was interested in procuring the Tejas Mk.1? That alone should suffice for his lack of credibility regarding military-industrial matters. As for TKMS, it will be reqd to ensure that its SSK design caters for the incorporation of the DRDO-developed MAREEM AIP system.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To JUST_CURIOUS, RAGHU & DASHU: Such reports are popping up due to India’s own stupidity. This is a fairly balanced interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XohjNZtRYmk&t=14s

Whereas the ones from the ‘desi’ patrakaars & self-appointed Sherpas are making the situation far more worse, like these programmes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ8Ti0O_y8s&t=18s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHrXyXXrAt8

And these are the ultimate Achilles Heels, showing Anil Ambani in close proximity (blatant display of high privilege) to the Indian PM during Aero India 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a4jqChePdM&t=2772s (watch from 47.20)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zllh0pqw_8 (watch from 46.24)

As is typically the case, while it takes an eternity for the CBI to file a chargesheet while the accused either secure bail or are left to rot as undertrials for decades, abroad matters move swiftly & if French Prosecutors officially request the ED to share the evidence about Sushen Gupta’s financial transactions both in the previous decade & as late as 2018, only then will one be able to get closest to the truth. If the ED refuses to share the evidence, then it will put India on the backfoot in the eyes of the world.

Similarly, the continued incarceration of Christian Michel will also have negative repercussions for India, since this very Sushen Gupta along with lawyer Gautam Khaitan was involved with the Italian Haschke in devising & implementing a highly corrupted direct offsets package for the AW-101 VVIP helicopter contract that benefitted a Chandigarh-based ICT firm & Mumbai-based MRO company AIRWORKS. Michel on the other hand wanted HAL to become the direct beneficiary of the direct industrial offsets package since AgustaWestland Helicopters had after 1998 cooperated with HAL in setting up a gearbox/transmission overhaul facility in Bengaluru for the Sea Kng Mk.42B/C NMRHs.

The INC’s ‘Pappu’ should be asked how can he afford to undertake such periodic trips abroad, i.e. does he have any verifiable source of regular income, or are all his visiuts sponsored by scumbags like the fugitive Sanjay Bhandari who continues to reside in the UK.

Sanjay said...

Mr.Prasun

1) What happened to operation Vajra Hammerhead on LOC?

2)https://mobile.twitter.com/IndiaembFrance/status/1456972579508342784

Industrialization of Defence and Autonomy of India

What are we upto wrt France and what are they upto or is it only lip service?

3)I remember after Pulwama attack on 14-2-2019 the UNSC had issued a statement condemning the attacks in Indian State of Jammu and Kashmir but this statement was delayed due to Chinese. This shows Chinese attitude wrt to us even before the 370 move in August?

Thank you

Sanjay

Sujit said...

Prsaun sir,
1- can't Indian Navy put up a design transfer clause in p75i submarine tender just like the South Koreans?
2-although the South Koreans are ahead in lithium-ion category do u think Indian Navy wud go for another design since it wud be cost prohibitive
3-in 2018 naval group declared to have developed a high capability lithium-ion battery LIBRT..how far are they in embedding it in smx3.0?
4- grse has laid down their first shallow water asw craft in l&t shipyard.what role l&t is playing exactly? Are they building it? Isn't grse won the contract??

pm said...

Sir are sea harriers of Indian navy still operational? Or could they be made operational if need be on short notice?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

While the televised political cockfights are raging on WRT Rafale M-MRCA procurement contract, the following can be deduced:

1) The ‘desi’ media entities & ‘patrakaars’ have got it all wrong & are Wrongly focussing on the Rafale M-MRCA contract. In fact, a closer examination of the timeline of events conclusively proves that the commissions paid to Susheen Gupta by OEMs like Dassault Aviation between 2004 & 2012 concern other contracts won by Dassault Aviation & THALES.

2) Sushen Gupta, his father Dev Gupta & hs brother Sushant Gupta started receiving money from Dassault Aviation since 2003. Sushen & Sushant were partners with Ranjan Kishore Bhattacharya in a hospitality services firm. In May 1996, Bhattacharya was appointed by then PM A B Vajpayee as an Officer on Special Duty (OSD) in the Prime Minister's Office. Here are backgrounders of RKB:

https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/cover-story/story/20010402-ranjan-bhattacharya-vajpayees-foster-son-in-law-who-dabbles-in-government-decisions-775430-2001-04-02

https://www.dnaindia.com/business/report-carlson-to-buy-ranjan-bhattacharya-s-stake-in-jv-2150595

3) It was in late 2001 that the RFI for 126 M-MRCAs, with an option for another 63, was issued. In September 2004, India ordered 10 more Mirage 2000Hs from Dassault Aviation in a G-to-OEM contract & these were all delivered in 2007.

4) On February 20, 2006 Dassault Aviation offered to supply 40 Rafale M-MRCAs to the IAF in a single-source G-to-G deal. The offer was made by Charles Edelstenne, the then CEO of Dassault Aviation, when he called on the then Minister of State for Defence Rao Inderjit Singh in New Delhi. The IAF’s then Deputy Chief of the Air Staff Air Marshal A K Nangalia was also present at this meeting. Edelstenne was part of the entourage of the then visiting French President Jacques Chirac.

5) Issuance of a RFP for 126 M-MRCAs was planned for December 2005. However, the formal 211-page RFP was released only on August 28, 2007.

6) In July 2011, India signed a US$2.1 billion (Rs 17,547 crore) contract with Dassault Aviation for upgrading its 51 Mirage-2000 MRCAs, of which the first four were to be upgraded in France and the remaining 47 by HAL starting 2015 & ending in 2023. A Chandigarh-based company, IDS Infotech, which was linked to Sushen Gupta’s Mauritius-based firm Interstellat Technologies, became the beneficiary of offsets contracts placed by Dassault Aviation & possibly THALES as well.

7) On January 31, 2012 Rafale was declared the winner of the M-MRCA competition

Cont'd below...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

From the above, we can safely conclude that Sushen Gupta’s Mauritius-based company Interstellar Technologies received at least 7.5 million Euros from Dassault Aviation & THALES between 2003 and 2012 for services rendered in securing the September 2004 order for 10 Mirage-2000Hs and securing the subsequent contract for upgrading the 51 IAF Mirage-2000s, thanks to IT contracts awarded to IDS Infotech that were clearly overbilled, and from which most of the money was discreetly sent to Mauritius using a system of alleged false invoices. Some of these invoices even got the name of the French company wrong, referring instead to ‘Dassult Aviation’.

On October 11, 2018, the CBI received a set of documents, which included the ‘fake invoices’, from the Attorney-General’s Office in Mauritius detailing all payments received by Interstellar Technologies from Dassault Aviation. On March 22, 2019 Sushen Gupta was arrested by the Enforcement Directorate (ED) & materials recovered from him included a pen-drive containing documents (classified as CONFIDENTIAL & SECRET) like draft notifications by the MoD & IAF HQ, confidential documents with regard to the supply of weapons, air package protocols, records on procurement process of aircraft for the IAF, meeting notices, agreements to purchase, documents regarding benchmarking of costs (dated May 14, 2015 & August 16, 2016); letters with revised offer for the Eurofighter EF-2000 Typhoon written to the Ministry of Defence; request for technical and commercial proposals for M-MRCA; internal documents of HAL and IAF HQ; records of discussions of IAF and Ukraine’s Spetstechnoexport; “forecast of requirements of various types of aircraft by the IAF over a period of time. All these clearly constitute a violation of the 1923 Official Secrets Act.

From these, we can safely conclude that:

1) This is a clear-cut case of military-industrial espionage of the type that was buested back in late 1984:

https://www.nytimes.com/1985/01/24/world/3-frenchmen-linked-to-indian-spy-case.html

2) It remains a mystery why Sushen Gupta’s trial on charges of treason has not yet commenced. In addition, who were Gupta’s suppliers of such data, be it within the MoD or within IAF HQ? Why were both the IAF’s Counter-Intelligence Branch & the Intelligence Bureau (IB) unaware of such illegal activities that were taking place? Or did they both know about all this, but were prevented from going public by the ruling political dispensation?

3) If Sushen Gupta has been officially-appointed ‘Agent’ or ‘Adviser’ to any foreign OEM like Dassault Aviation & THALES, then did he also register all such details with the Indian MoD?

4) Neither Dassault Aviation nor THALES can be accused of engaging in any illegal act WRT Rafale M-MRCA contract, which was inked between the Govt of India’s MoD & the French Govt’s DGA. In fact, it is up to the DGA to decide if the act of Dassault Aviation & THALES engaging Indian citizens as their paid Agents/Advisers for marketing purposes was an illegal one under both French laws & OECD anto-corruption conventions to which France is a signatory. That’s because the involved French OEMs did not ink a single contract with the Govt of India (thereby not violating any Indian law), but with the DGA. Hence, the Govt of India should have no problems with any cooperation that French state prosecutors may enlist from India WRT Indian Rafale M-MRCA deal.

5) However, since the IAF’s Mirage-2000 upgrade contract is still underway & will conclude only by 2023, the Govt of India must ascertain whether Dassault Aviation & THALES will continue to make progress payments of commissions due to IDS Infotech & Inbterstellat Technologies, which are in clear violation of the Integrity Clause contained within the concerned contract.

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Prasun K. Sengupta said...

6) Lastly, retired aviators/air warriors like Ret’d AM P K Barbora are only further muddying the waters by veering wildly off-course & are miserably failing to educate their TV audiences of the following:

A) It is an IMPOSSIBILITY to licence-build any Gen-4 MRCA, be it an L-MRCA, M-MRCA or H-MRCA, due to its inherent cost-prohibitiveness. And that’s why no country in the world has to date likcence-produced any Gen-4 MRCA of any type. Even Gen-3 MRCAs upgraded to Gen-4 MRCAs like the F/A-18D/E Super Hornet, F-15K & F-15SG have not been licence-built by any country & will never be due to the sheer cost-prohibitive processes that they entail. Hence, the prospect of HAL licence-building Rafales was a common-sensical no-brainer since 2007.

B) And that’s because if military-industrial entities like HAL were to licence-build the Rafales in a cheaper manner, then it would had to reject all French OEM-specified/France-origin industrial machinery & instead would have had to procure alternate & cheaper industrial machinery from Germany, Switzerland & Austria. Obviously this would not be acceptable to the French OEMs that would in turn refuse to certify HAL as an authorised/certified manufacturer of the Rafales, and would not accept any product liability for all materials licence-built by HAL for the Rafale & hence no product warranty clauses will apply. This has been the case with all aircraft that has been licence-built by HAL to date & this in turn has severe repercussions whenever any air-crash investigation exercise has had to be carried out by IAF HQ to ascertain the probable cause of any air-crash concerning a HAL-supplied aircraft.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SANJAY: 1) Suspended due to the ceasefire along the LoC. 2) Assistance for developing the MWF & AMCA Mk.1, plus supply of hardware like propulsors & optronic masts for the projected SSNs. 3) Yes indeed.

To SUJIT: 1) It can be done, but it will be cost-prohibitive. It was cheaper in the 1990s & even back in the 1980s the consortium of HDW/IKL/Ferrostaal had supplied such data & technologies for the Class 209/Type-1500 SSK to India. The ‘netas’ of India totally fucked it all up since the late 1980s by terminating the SSK production line after building two 2 such SSKs. 2) Japan & France are the market-leaders in this field, not South Korea. They can supply such batteries for any SSK. 4) GRSE won the contract but decided to share the production lots with L & T so that both can build them & supply them at a rapid rate.

To PM: All of them have been permanently decommissioned & some of them have not become displays at the entrances of various public & private institutions.

HMS Vengeance (S-31) Vanguard-class SSBN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihhoQd0N_oc

pm said...

Sir looking at china's navy size which is still growing at breakneck pace, how manpower exhausting are their surface and sub surface ships compared to another navies. How much do they invest in manpower training, maintainance of ships and how much capability do they have if they go for a sustained campaign anywhere in the world?

pm said...

Dear sir adding onto my previous question about Chinese navy, it is said that if we consider US navy as a nation then it will be considered as one of the largest carbon emitter( 16 in country rank if I am not wrong). Considering china's navy size what is and will be it's carbon footprint.

Sujit said...

Prasun sir,
1- those data and technology are still with MDL? can't Indian Navy design on its own a submarine along with the experience gained from scorpene manufacturing?
2- can l&t build frigates also? Can't mdl and grse do the same with their orders for destroyers and frigates?
3-do u have any info on ssn project?whether it's metal cutting has started? Will it have vls for brahmos or nirbhaya?

Ashish Gautam said...

Thanks sir for all answers.
How do u see PNS tughril aka type 54A frigate which got commisioned in PN on 8th? What's your opinion on its offensive and defensive capabilities?? How good adversary can it be for Indian naval ships and subs? Esp scorpene and upgraded kilo class one's.

3rd ~ EyE said...

There are reports stating India /US is trying to collaborate on Gremlin equivalent tech .. is it just sound bites or do we have a real game plan

Kaustav said...

Prasunda,

Thanks again for your excellent inputs and links. Much appreciated Sir.

SMRs present a new business opportunity for reliable green power supply while Nuclear Power seems to be making a comeback due to need for reducing use of petroleum & coal. With Nuclear Fusion vide the Tokamak, future energy requirements may easily be met

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59212983

https://www.sciencefocus.com/future-technology/fusion-power-future/

Ofcourse, N-Fusion Reactors are still 5 years away, atleast better than being 30 years away perpetually & always.

Since we live in interesting times and with everyone from Jhunjhunwala to Mobius being bullish on India & PRC projected to be in all sorts of trouble from pandemic to shortages to govt crackdowns to terrorist attacks. The ground reality being different atleast as of now - India isn't really a manufacturing powerhouse or technology solutions provider with huge infrastructure & skill bottlenecks while PRC is key to global supply chains & critical electronics

https://www.wionews.com/videos/gravitas-why-is-china-not-talking-about-the-mysterious-blasts-428101

But India knows the struggle is uphill with GOI accepting significant disadvantages in SC whether in Air Defence or Army assets deployment against PRC.

China Has Made Huge Build-up in Tibet Region, Army Need Broader Roads: Centre to SC-https://www.news18.com/news/india/china-has-made-huge-build-up-in-tibet-region-army-need-broader-roads-centre-to-sc-4423778.html

https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/army-wants-new-low-level-radar-along-china-border/articleshow/87629032.cms

It does seem though that mobile Low Level Medium to Short Range & Quick Reaction Air Defence systems are more India's need than imported long range SAM systems. Even the Air Defence Interceptors like the Mig-21 or Tejas Mk1 seem a necessity in the mountains though dedicated interceptors are redundant elsewhere.

My Queries -

1.Is India being primed to be an alternative to the PRC?

Old question but it seems so, going by the News & media

2. Is GoI & Indian Army alarmed & perturbed about the threat of military aggression by PRC within a decade?

This seems different from the 1980s though when Indian Forces seemed more confident & the power differential was less with PLA having little infrastructure near the LAC in Tibet or Xinjiang.

R. Jalan said...

Hello Sir

Susan said...


Prasun da,

https://twitter.com/sudhirmehtapune/status/1458343701671923713

Ease of doing business Maharashtra style.Zero chances of companies leaving china coming to India.

Chanakya Chatterjee said...

Bhai ... It's sound bytes and not bites ... And details, very minor details matter ... In language, defense and life itself

Anonymous said...

(To Chanakya Bhai) I guess you might want to let Merriam-Webster know that they're wrong as well: www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sound-bite

Kaustav said...

In reality, the Mathadi Kamgar Unions are a political patronage racket with political paties using this to finance their cadre & supporters.

While Mathadi workers are efficient, the way their Unions operate make it something that industries have cheaper alternatives to without the hassle & harassment of employing these labour which fleece factory managements in various manners. It's certainly one of the major industrial bottlenecks in Maharashtra which has to be 'creatively managed' one of the numerous reasons why India will never be an industrial or supply chain alternative to PRC

Parthasarathi said...

Prasunda,

Is there any chance that during Putin's visit Zircon will be offered ? If yes then will they share technology like Brahmos ?
Best regards

just_curious said...

Prasun,

1-Russia issues a separate stmt outside of the Delhi declaration on Afghanistan.. They are also a part of the trioka plus. Taliban welcoming delhi declaration.. are they so desperate economically or ther urge to be recognized that is driving it or have they really changed their mindset?
2- poland- Belarus border issue .. what is driving this?

SUVO said...

Prasun da,
What is coming out from the 8 country NSA meeting? What is the latest condition of NRF, Taliban & Afganistan? Why our govt. Not understand the importance of capturing GB? Pakistan again going towards a military takeover & this time it is because of China, not USA. Every time after a military coup,something big happened in Pakistan. Your views please.

Raghu said...

Hi Prasun,

One conference on Afghanistan in India with Russian, Iranian and CAR NSAs participation. Another in Pakistan with the US, China and Russian participating along with Pakistan.

Obviously, the absence of NSA from Pakistan and lack of Chinese presence shows what they think of India's initiative. All parties seem to have their own agenda wrt Afghanistan.

Wonder whose agenda will ultimately prevail in that land.

Regards,

Raghu

Raghu said...

Hi Prasun

Continuing from my previous comments on Afghanistan, what to make out of the following? Are the Russians hedging?

Where does the US and UK stand in all this?

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-russia-delhi-declaration-7617452/

Regards,

Raghu

Sujit said...

A “sound bite” is a brief snippet of recorded speech, usually used in the context of news reporting. The term originated around 1980, long before the recording of such snippets on personal computers was common; so those who argue that the correct spelling is “sound byte” are mistaken.(https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/05/31/soundbyte/)

Sound Byte or Sound Bite
https://btr.michaelkwan.com/2018/03/07/grammar-101-sound-byte-sound-bite/

So it seems the all knowing Chunu Chatterjee has made a boo boo LOLLZZZ

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

Your 'I told you so' moments are very frequent these days.

Whether, its Nuclear Power which is the only viable alternative to Fossil fuels aa a green fuel.

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2021/11/13/the-discreet-charm-of-nuclear-power

Which is ofcourse followed by your Nasal Vaccine for Covid which in the case of Covaxin ssems to be ready for delivery with both the Covaxin & Covisheild vaccines being effective & long lasting against the Delta variants against which the PRC vaccines are abject failures! Symptomatic of a falling PRC?! Either way, they have a long way to fall, even so. BTW, India has a long way to go too which could be either way given our meandering ways.

As per the phase 3 data, Covaxin was found to be 65.2 per cent effective against the Delta variant, 93.4 per cent effective against severe symptomatic Covid and 63.6 per cent effective against asymptomatic Covid. Covaxin 77.8% effective against Covid-19: Phase 3 data published in Lancet https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/vaccine-updates/story/phase-3-data-bharat-biotech-covid-vaccine-covaxin-lancet-efficacy-1875829-2021-11-12?

Bharat Biotech’s Krishna Ella: 2nd dose of Covaxin can be a nasal dose. We have found that nasal dose is more effective in preventing Covid-19 transmission in people who have been infected or vaccinated with one dose. It may eliminate need to wear a mask #TimesNowSummit2021

Bharat Biotech’s Krishna Ella: Booster dose ideal six months after second dose of Covid-19 vaccine #TimesNowSummit2021

It does seem that the Pandemic is now an endemic & as in South East Asia, Indians too will need to have flu shots, only of the anti-covid variety & via nasal spray exactly as you predicted last year when you had your flu shots.

Meanwhile PRC enterprises like Huwawei & ZTE face permanent sanction / ban

https://www.zdnet.com/article/us-president-biden-signs-law-to-ban-huawei-and-zte-from-receiving-fcc-licences/

Any other country in India's place would have seized the day but our self-imposed constraints & laziness prevents is as usual. It's a now or never but in India's case we will probably have to be dragged kicking & screaming to the ball if the Farm Law SNAFU is any indication.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To PM: Since the PLAN, just like the PLAGF & PLAAF, is a conscription-based service, only 24% of its in-service personnel are full-time servers, with the rest being conscripts & therefore not all PLAN warships have full crew compliments.

To SUJIT: Even if such IPRs exist with both the IN & MDSL, their validity had expired long ago & back 20 years ago neither the NDA-1 nor the succeeding UPA-1 govts chose to renew them & hence continued licensed production of Class 209/Type-1500 SSKs became untenable. Scorpene SSK manufacturing s just pressure-hull fabrication according to a specific design. No changes are permitted in that design & hence even if MDSL were to make any such changes, there is no one to validate such changes unless money is paid to the OEM Naval Group. 2) Yes, it is possible. 3) No new updates & neither has any metal-cutting commenced at a time when the S-4 SSGN is still under constructin. I had already stated several times before that the projected SSNs will be able to launch only torpedo-fired cruise missiles like the SCLM variants of Nrbhay & Brahmos-NG. No BrahMos-1s on them as they will not have VLS launch cells.

To ASHISH GAUTAM: All that was answered in the previous thread itself.

To 3rd-EYE: Such cooperation is presently limited to only private-sector ICT players of both countries under the US’ ‘Clean Technologies’ intiative meant for 5-G & projected 6-G cellular comms systems.

To PARTHASARATHI: ZIRCON was offered by Russia to India way back in 2012 itself & that was why BrahMos Aerospace has since then showcased that missile in every subsequent AERO INDIA & DEFEXPO expos as the BrahMos-2.

To JUST_CURIOUS, SUVO & RAGHU: The situation inside Afghanistan is getting more dire with each passing day, as evidenced by the following videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2KZsR2e_M8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVzRHJTfYHM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxd_N70e9vE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EnxuPwJXBQ

The Taliban now has no other choice (as beggars can’t be choosers) but to apply pressure on Pakistan to allow Indian truck-convoys carrying foodgrain supplies to Afghanistan. The other option is for Afghanistan to receive such shipments by sea via Chabahar, with the handover to UN agencies taking place at the Zarang border checkpost. China cannot provide any such foodgrains-related aid since Beijing itself is facing shortages in foodgrains production this year, while Pakistan lacks the financial resources reqd for prodiving such aid to Afghanistan. Hence, in the end, the partnership of India & Iran are the nett winners that will portray both China & Pakistan is very bad light internationally.

To EVERYONE: It may be noticed that in the aftermath of my exhaustive explanation of November 10, 2021 at 5.46 AM, all the mainstream Indian TV channels, plus print & electronic meda since then not indulged in any news-reporting or televised cock-fightng WRT Rafale M-MRCA contract. I can only guess why—this being due to my transmission of those very comments being sent by me that very day to all the TV/Print/Electronic Media channels/publications to point out the glaring errors in reportage. The e-mailing list also included the e-mails sent to the prominent ‘desi bandalbaazes’, all of whom have snce fallen silent, perhaps now engaged in licking their respective wounds.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To KAUSTAV: 1) Yes. 2) India’s armed forces are neither alarmed nor perturbed. But India’s MEA is. After all, it was the MEA that in the 1990s came up with the ludicrous proposal to do away with the McMahon Line & instead label as a LAC & then qualify it is a line of peace & tranquillity WITHOUT consulting India’s armed forces about the military consequences of such a changeover/makeover. Consequently, the differences in perceptions over the Indian boundary (that is a unilaterally India-claimed line drawn without any ground-level survey-work being done between 1947 & 1962) have arisen within India, with even senior retired OA officers differing in their opinions, as witnessed in this programme aired yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ0Pl3QuHn0&t=3s

To make matters worse, the present-day political map of India showing the Sino-Indian border is now being WRONGLY claimed by the ‘desi patrakaars’ of NDTV as being an international boundary (IB), because any IB has to be jointly delineated on a map & demarcated on the ground, following which boundary pillars are erected, something that was never done along the McMahon Line. In addition, NDTV is maliciously claiming that the MEA’s recent clarifications WRT China’s construction of ‘Xiaogang’ village townships along China’s border with Arunachal Pradesh was in response to NDTV‘s highlighting of this issue. In reality, the MEA was responding to US Pentagon-published CHINA MILITARY POWER-2021 annual report. NDTV is thus trying to bask in reflected glory, which is utterly shameful. Lastly, what is been happening along the LAC since April 2020 is China’s rejection of its own official proposal made in late 1962 itself as part of the ceasefire proposals under the ‘COLOMBO PLAN’, which is explained in the following 2 slides that had uploaded on January 21, 2021:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3oB8TckwsbU/YAok0FEE3hI/AAAAAAAAVFE/uKSldX2Dd4ETpfNWBI7G8tFkzcYjcpfEQCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/McMahon%2BLine%2BExplained-2.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lf0Hygi9cbg/YAoli0UYe8I/AAAAAAAAVFo/HCdLJLK7qQUFpTeZJUQVZK9dbP4cPWzUgCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/Colombo%2BPlan-3.jpg

Simply put, what China has done is to do away with its earlier written commitment on adhering to the COLOMBO PLAN (i.e. maintaining a demilitarised zone between the China-controlled LAC & the India-controlled LAC, while allowing both parties to mount patrols of such demilitarised areas that measure 40km in depth) while not allowing either party to built any permanent infrastructure within such areas. Consequently, the PLAGF is today occupying those areas with 20km depth that it had left unoccupied until April 2020 & is also building permanent infrastructure within such real estate. Unfortunately, neither India’s MEA nor the MoD are clearing explaining all this, due to which only confusion & disinformation is being created/spread among india’s masses.

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Prasun K. Sengupta said...

As for LLTRs (L-band Bharani of IA & S-band Aslesha for IAF), the IA has professed its interest in ordering the latter after already inducting the Bharani into service & is now interested in this:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rmQSdjv8cvU/WBKMeU65FNI/AAAAAAAAL2U/uR2BG6LyxV8sjJjOlZesAiO3E0LvJZ3CgCLcB/s1600/ELTA%2Bactive%2Bphased-array%2Btarget%2Bacquisition-trecking-engagement%2Bradar.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nIfv6plV5S4/XGvKyz5E1fI/AAAAAAAAQoY/wTGOeS8D0pkNhO2U_mjZLQFzTXNPv0BFgCLcBGAs/s1600/BEL%2527s%2BX-band%2BAir-Defence%2BRadar-1.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zAApiXRyN3A/XGvK1MN8XAI/AAAAAAAAQoc/6xzUWJiYy4YOvf1HiEfaeXZD4F-Ig__xwCLcBGAs/s1600/BEL%2527s%2BX-band%2BAir-Defence%2BRadar-2.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sw1stCpvOAA/Xj0yiRz8EwI/AAAAAAAASgw/O_SDqgDX1ZEvLtLjbFOOtMgKHfnV7EY4wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/DSC00698.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YehQmXKIayQ/XjlhEb9v9hI/AAAAAAAASbQ/dAc7C1wVmDAqMBmaRvRll2NCelZvo3k7wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/X-Band%2BAPAR-FCR%2Bon%2B4%2Bx%2B4%2BATV.jpg

This X-band FCS was co-developed by ELTA Systems & BEL for the ZSU-23-4 Schilka upgrade & back in mid-2017 I had formally suggested to HQ IDS that this very radar be mounted on 4 x 4 LAMVs. By 2020 this proposal had been acted upon & now bulk orders are being placed.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Totally facile & ill-informed debates devoid of critical thinking WRT China-Inda Relations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjhNj-LnUN8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc9o5B8pso0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FNCw725TuY&t=17s

This Maarof Raza fella can't even distinguish between a border & a boundary!!!

In contrast, a highly informative debate on China's future course trajectory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m54dWWExPA

More false hstorical narratives from India's CDS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpJA1fXyI4w

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

The Government will not clarify because that would mean that India has lost territory , ( upto which it had patrolling rights) upto 20 kms in the grey zone between LAC perception ,/ claim lines. Since India hasn't moved forward 20 kms to establish permanent posts, war memorials (as you have expressed the requirement for) communications infrastructure and other defence systems and sensors, it's evident obfuscation remains the order of the day as the lack of patrol rights upto certain points will be taken as a loss of territory by the layman. Thus the Denial. 😉

radha said...


HI prasun
the x band apar radar made by bel and elta .?. i thought it was a bought out item as i saw it on the zsu-23 the first time in aero india way back and it was clearly nameplated as made by elta. THe thermal camera , laser range finders etc? if so do we have the source codes and the all important algos ? what would be the range of it.?. perfect for shorads and the ak 630 truck mounted 30mm air defence system/?.
what about it being employed as an anti cruise missile radar?

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

Prasun Da,

So since, Xi cements his position, it appears that he has won the battle against Zemin faction , at least for now ? In a lighter note the comments section of the Youtube link have been provided is flooded by the Chinese 50 cent army using fake account.

But Xi faces an uphill task, as apparent from his decision for non leaving of PRC for twenty months:

https://tfiglobalnews.com/2021/09/11/why-xi-jinping-has-not-stepped-out-of-china-for-the-past-600-days/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMKfzsGwSdk

Dada, why the PLA is using USN Aircraft Carrier model with rails in desert ? How, the exercise will help at the time of hostility. There will be CBG, not a single lone Aircraft carrier ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7zDjo5aywo

The USA - planned Taiwanese 'Porcupine Defence' Strategy.

https://freedomhouse.org/report/transnational-repression/china
----Transnational repression by PRC.

"Since the PLAN, just like the PLAGF & PLAAF, is a conscription-based service, only 24% of its in-service personnel are full-time servers, with the rest being conscripts & therefore not all PLAN warships have full crew compliments."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teW5fEhGGsY

-- As per this report PLAN is still not battle ready.

2) Prasun Da, is Taliban facing guerilla onslaught from NRF :

Are this news report true ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvzSMVEJmYk

Then why this is not covered in mainstream media.

Sanjay said...

Mr. Prasun

https://www.deccanherald.com/international/chinese-pla-surveys-villages-and-military-posts-in-pakistan-occupied-kashmir-1049369.html

1)When will Indian personnel visit Taiwan now that PLA is conducting surveys in POK?

2)Also since last November Neelum valley had been in news is something serious happening there?

Thank you

Sanjay

Arpit Kanodia said...

Sir whats your opinion over this

https://twitter.com/ahmedabadmirror/status/1407220591376179207

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gwoa91Zp0A

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To KAUSTAV: In fact, all successive Govts of India have since 1962 refused to clarify the ground realities simply because the first 2 political maps of India published in 1950 & 1954 were NOT the end-products of detailed ground-surveys conducted by the Dehra Dun-based Surveyor-General of India. These are the 2 maps:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4I4DAdFdylc/UYRI1ThSVSI/AAAAAAAAEwE/CwSx8iMnXJ4/s1600/Govt+of+India's+1950+Map.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5Yb6V4UyiPc/UYRI7OPDnZI/AAAAAAAAEwM/fAFs1OlTVwY/s1600/Govt+of+India's+1954+Map.jpg

Consequently, ambiguity arose about the exact locations of the watersheds & their depths. Contrast that with the detailed surveys conducted by China throughout Aksai China between 1950 & 1957 & only then did China officially begin asserting its territorial claims. This is the reason why the IA has always been uncertain about its patrolling methodologies & why the IA infamously decided to unilaterally withdraw in 1959 from Longju in NEFA and from Jelep La in Sikkim in 1967. It was ONLY AFTER 1976 that the Limits of Patrolling Policy (LPP) were formally drafted by the China Study Group (CSG) & a new political map of India was issued in 1978 by the Surveyor-General of India, but again this map did not make use of any ground survey data. Consequently, in the early & mid-1980s there were a few significant but unreported clashes between the IA & PLAGF during which the IA had opened fire (which again disproves the popular myth about the IA & PLAGF last exchanging fire at Tulung La in Arunachal Pradesh in 1975). In fact, the IA had opened fire during the now-forgotten Thandrong Pastures incident in early 1986 & later that same year during the Wangdung/Sumdorong Chu incident. Here is the account of what had happened then:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HFUjY-hhETk/V6YrkDvf10I/AAAAAAAALZE/TMZX3Hw8VokvbiKQS5iNxr5WESBaTJ9dQCLcB/s1600/18.jpg

https://www.deccanherald.com/international/chinese-pla-surveys-villages-and-military-posts-in-pakistan-occupied-kashmir-1049369.html

Now, fast-forwarding to today, if the likes of CDS Gen Bipin Rawat, Maj Gen (Ret’d) Meston & Lt Gen (Ret’d) Kulkarni are appearing on mainstream national TV channels & claiming that Longju has been under China’s occupation since 1960 & hence it is not a cause for any concern, followed by India’s MEA stating that all that it will do is lodge a diplomatic protest with China, then all this can only mean that the Surveyor-General of India has NOT YET conducted a detailed ground-survey of its claimed borders in Arunachal Pradesh & consequently the MEA’s/CSG’s laid-down LPP also remain ambiguous & hence some like Ret’d Lt Gen Jaswal refer to the grey-zone areas as ‘Rest of Arunachal Pradesh’ (RALP). This then puts the local IA forces commander at Company-/Battalion-levels under tremendous psychological stress whenever there is a faceoff with a PLAGF patrolling party because the fomer does not have any map or document to show to his PLAGF counterpart to prove that the PLAGF patrol has transgressed or intruded either intentionally or inadvertently into India-controlled territory.

And this is exactly what the Henderson-Brooks Report had stated & so if it were to be made public, then it will become evident that India’s political & military decision-makers have since the 1950s have failed to delineate (on a scaled map) & demarcate (along the Himalayan watersheds) the McMahon Line & this in turn will severely degrade India’s negotiating stance with China WRT boundary issue’s resolution. This was also stated by former DGMO Lt Gen (Ret’d) Satish Nambiar in this TV programme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o6j1-U7mwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xsZepld_vI

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To RADHA/RAD: Yes, it was first shown at Aero India 2013. There was a licenced-production ToT transfer by ELTA to BEL & now its production & servicing are totally indgenised. Such X-band radars are for fire-control/target engagement of all types of airborne objects, be they aircraft, helicopters, drones, cruise missiles or other PGMs & hence can be used in conjunction with any rapid-fire AAA system.

To SANJAY: Those visits have been underway for a very long time & concern surveys reqd for laying fibre-optic cables for improved communications connectivity. Indian personnel regularly visit Taiwan & bith countries have since the 1990s had trade representative offices in each other’s capitals.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SUMANTA NAG: Last week during the closed-door 6th Plenum, there was a discussion within the CPC on whether or not to carry out an amphibious assault of Taiwan’s Pratas Island, followed by a similar invasion of the Taiping Island further south. But eventually, the CPC decided against it, because the PLAN still is Not ready for such an operation. Hence, there were lots of airborne recce sorties conducted from Japan by the USAF’s RC-135s & Global Hawk HALE-UAVs. More details are over here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YisWg92dUic&t=9s

The PLARF & the PLASSF have built such full-scale rail-mobile models of USN warships in order to perfect the target recognition & tracking algorithms of a new generation of LEO space-based satellites that are now being developed. In addition, such ground-based targets were earlier built in Inner Mongolia at the Dunhuang Target Area (40.468772 N, 93.508881 E as seen on GoogleEarth) for perfecting the ring laser gyro-based & fibre-optic gyro-based inertial navigation systems of TBMs & SRBMs that are meant for use against air bases. Here are their images:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD_HBVNXIAYi9L6?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD_HEqcXIBsnZyD?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD_HNP1XIAw3Piw?format=jpg&name=large

The ‘Porcupine Defence Strategy’ was the brainchild of 3 military personalities that were assembled togather in Singapore in the early 1970s by the late Lee Kuan Yew for the defence of both Singapore & Taiwan. They were Col Ted Metaxes of the US, Lt Gen Mathew Thomas from India & Maj Gen Israel Tal from Israel.

As for the AF-PAK region, drastic changes are due to take place on either November 19 or 20, according to this, which predicts the imminent ouster of IAKN & his PTI party from power:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBhkV83u-FM&t=34s

In fact, IAKN has been at loggerheads with the PA since August 2019, when he was for a far more hostile posture being adopted against India, while the PA favoured a solution that called for a permanent solution to the J & K issue that was under deliberation since 2017 in back-channel talks held in the UK between Indian & Pakistani interlocutors. Thus, it was IAKN who was behind all the drone-delivered weapons & narcotics that were dropped in northern Punjab & southern Jammu between mid-2020 & last August, in defiance of the PA’s directives. You will also have noticed that after the PA prevailed over IAKN on matters relating to Afghanistan, all the drone flights into have also stopped for good. And that also perhaps explains why the IA or IAF did not militarily retaliate against Pakistan whenever such drone flights took place. Now, WRT Afghanistan, it was again IAKN who was resolutely against providing the land transit corridor to Indian humanitarian supplies, but it now seems the PA has won this bout too & hence the PA prevailed upon the visiting Taliban representatives in Islamabad to officially state that the Taliban would welcome India’s humanitarian relief supplies that would be transiting through Pakistan.

So the stage has now been readied for ‘Modi ka Yaar’ Mian Mohd Nawaz Sharif’s triumphant return back to Pakistan from self-imposed exile in the UK.

pm said...

Greetings Sir, may be Iam making some typing mistakes but I am unable to find either thandorong Pastures or sumdorong in Google maps or earth.Is it deliberately not shown? Could you please share the the coordinates for the above.

Black box said...

Hi Prasun,
At your last reply you mentioned about back channel negotiations (2017)on permanent solution to Kashmir .
1)What were the highlights of it .
2)if it involves settiling for present boundaries of loc India be unable to recover ajad Kashmir and GB for ever .
Thanks

Raghu said...

Hi Prasun,

If a resolution of J&K is on the cards, what happens to our current stand on POK? Do we just compromise?

What about the parliamentary resolutions and a tall claims of taking back POK?

Regards,

Raghu

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

Prasun Da, do you agree on Mr. Arif Ajakia's prediction on possible break up of Pakistan as below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KJfWB4mMWQ&t=491s

Please share your views.

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

Thanks for your excellent refreshers & unique updates.

Since my post Diwali R&R is now at a close, I have just one more query

With the Augusta Westland ban now having been formally lifted & new contracts can be bid for while investigation continues; Can the contract for remaining helicopters AW-101 be restarted but more critically can the 3 mothballed AW-101s of the IAF be used since vendor support contracts might be signed or revived.The 12 helicopters can be very useful now besides VVIP transport?! Encashing & recovery of paid amounts by invoking guarantees might have been necessary but was done in an unprofessional & churlish manner!

https://theprint.in/defence/3-agustawestland-choppers-lie-grounded-in-a-delhi-air-base-and-are-likely-to-remain-so/153204/

Satya said...

Prasun sir, there are some media according to which S-500 will be discussed during Putin's visit next month. I think Russians are going to make an offer to supply the S-500. What is your opinion on this?

Sanjay said...

Thanks for the replies Mr.Prasun

I know our Military Intelligence personnel visit Taiwan but next steps need to be taken.

Also you have rightly mentioned that firing incidents in LAC before 2020 took place in Sumdorong Chu incident in 1986-87.

I remember that controversial Caravan Article by Ex COAS Gen VN Sharma about that.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/caravanmagazine.in/amp/interview/general-v-n-sharma-indian-china-conflict-wangdung-tawang-1987-mcmahon-line

I think the last time you mentioned the Singapore Porcupine Defence strategy was back in 2012-13 in this blog.


Sanjay










I do

rad said...


HI prasun
where did this desi turboprop engine that powers trhe rustom 2 come from ?.Ithought the saturn turboprp was on it .
will you be co vering the dubai air show?

Millard Keyes said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG-TSCzgeDk

DROK 82mm spm

buddha said...

How you see next term of chinese supremo XI ..Will he try to wage chinese dreamed war to recapture taiwan and others area in 2025-26 ..
Will India show interest in new Check Mate su75..

SUJIT said...

Prasun sir,
1-isnt S4 is built at naval shipyard vizag?? While u have always said that the SSN class are going to be built by l&t..then why wait till S4 is completed??
2-china has deployed pcl181 mounted howitzer while we have deployed m777 towed howitzer.even if the topography doesnot favor mobility don't u think chinese have an edge here?
3-what progress has been made in reequipping the jaguars with new engine? And whether iaf is interested to go for hawk i upgrade to make bae hawks an effective cas aircraft?
4- can japan supply lithium-ion battery for indian navy scorpene in future if the govt ask for it?
5-doesnt the indian navy design beareu have no skills to design a conventional submarine at all??
6- does skills required to weld conventional submarine is different from skills required to build nuclear submarine?
7- how long will it take for us to operationalise s400 after receiving delivery?
8- wasn't drdo developing a 300mm mlrs? Had it been ditched?? When can we expect first trials of pralay missile? If hadn't been already tested.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To PM: You will never find them marked on Google Earth by anyone, but your’s truly, who engages in ISR taskings, will be the only one to provide the locational coordinates:

Sumdorong Chu: 27 47 21.00 N, 91 48 27.00 E

Thangdrong Pastures: 27 47 2.14 N, 91 43 58.00 E

Where the IA’s M-777 UFHs were shown deployed in Arunachal Pradesh on Indian TV channels (above Panga Teng Tso Lake): 27 38 32.73 N, 91 51 32.60 E

IA Tube/Rocket Artillery Storage Area in Pasighat, AP: 28 5 55.80 N, 95 23 39.57 E

To BLACK BOX & RAGHU: The countours of the settlement will be the same as that agreed upon in 1972 at Shmla, i.e, convert the LoC into a permanent IB. Since it was also agreed then that the issue will be resolved peacefully, India prevented herself from using military means for reunification with PoJK/GB. The only golden opportunity for India was in 1999 when Pakistan unilaterally violated the terms & conditions of the Shimla Agreement & therefore India had the perfect legal right to retaliate via military means & liberate PoJK/GB. But that opportunity was then lost forever because the likes of Jaswant Singh had then prevailed in the CCNS meetings where he scared everyone by claiming that if India were to go on the offensive in PoJK/GB, then she would be classified by the US as a rogue nuclear WMD-armed state. At that time, no one had the common-sense to point out the various flaws in Jaswant Singh’s arguments.

To SATYA: No, it is FAKE NEWS.

To SANJAY: VMT for refreshing all our memories about those previous comments.

To RADHA/RAD: It isn’t a turboprop engine, but a DRDO-developed diesel engine. My ISR taskings invlude every expo where China & Pakistan are present as exhibitors.

Anonymous said...

Hi Prasun,
I am deeply sceptical about there being a resolution to Kashmir.
Let me explain the reason for my scepticism.
1) If Kashmir issue is resolved permanently, Pakistan will have no justification for having such a large army.
2) Pakistan won't have any good justification for having nuclear weapons.
3) the Chinese wont be able to use the Pakistanis to keep india bogged down and Indias entire focus will shift towards china.
4) India will no longer be able to object to cpec
5) Pakistan will get much better integrated into indian economic sphere and will not remain completely dependent on Chinese capital and imports
6) The Pakistani masses which have been conditioned for several generations to consider India and Hindus as enemies will have an existential crisis.
7) The BJP will be going against parliamentary resolution passed unanimously.
8) The BJP base won't be particularly enthused and BJP won't get any electoral benifit out of this

As, Pakistan Army, BJP and CCP all stand to lose much more than what they will gain , I seriously doubt if this Kashmir problem is heading for a solution.

I would love for you to rebutt my view and give me the rationale being used by the powers that be for going ahead with the resolution of the Kashmir problem.

Thanks in advance.

Dr KRG

Satya said...

Sir, thanks for the reply. So does India not need the S-500 or a system with comparable capabilities? And based on your reply about LoC, has India decided to relinquish her claim on POK? Should we forget about taking it back even parts like Haji Pir, Neelum valley and Skardu?

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

Prasun Da, Subsequently, there'll be no wy to reach wakhan corridor, if these compromise reached.

Plus, present state of Pakistan and PA's policy will subsequently continue to unleash the dogs like JeM, LeT And TLP etc., as evident from the link I have prementioned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KJfWB4mMWQ&t=491s

Eventually, will force the occupants of ruling positions , to go along for the writing of the wall, i.e. to capture PoK, dismantle terror sturcture and thus destabilise PA's foundation for ever.

Please share your views, Dada.

Unknown said...

Greetings,

We are getting lch ... It has no weapons suite.. no missiles what is it doing in ladakh now.. is it lsp or fsp

Sanjeev said...

Reading news reports that the first set of LCH are going to be handed over in the next few days. As of today what all weapons, electronics etc been integrated and tested on it?

rad said...


HI prasun
we expect some nice pics from dubai.. pse tell some body there to take good video of the LCAdemo . really amateurish..
I really wonder where on earth do high flying uavs sport piston deisel engines given the cold and thin atmosphere where they work. I know that diamond DA-42 have them but on a UAV?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SUMANTA NAG: A broken-up Pakistan will be a far-greater threat to regional peace than the existing Pakistan since only those sections of the country that have a coastline (Sindh & Balochistan) will be able to survive, while the landlocked ones like Pakistani Punjab & KPK will likely end up like the so-called slamic Emirate of Afghanistan (IEA) & these 2 areas will have to depend solely on narco-terrorism in order to survive. Hence the PA & the elites of Pakistan will do everything to ensure that Pakistan never breaks apart. Over the past 3 years 40% of Pakstan’s population has sld below the poverty-line while 42% of irrigated land belongs to the PA & the country’s ruling elites hail from 220 families. So, what the future portends is that Pakistan will in the end become a mirror-image of the IEA, i.e. sliding almost back to the Stone Age.

To BUDDHA: World History is testimony to the fact about totalitarian states having limited shelf-lives, be it the former USSR or former Imperal Japan or Imperial Iran. China won’t be the exception, rest assured, because trying to equate the State with the Govt is a confirmed & pre-ordained recipe for total disaster of a very violent kind. India should not & will not show any interest in either the Su-57 or the Su-75.

To SUJIT: 1) All SSGNs & SSBNs & SSNs will be built at SBC in VVizag since L & T has leased the SBC from the MoD, just as Ashok Leyland had leased the OFB’s industrial facility to assemble the Stallion truck. 2) The terrain in TAR is dry & hard soil where there is no rain (due to moisture & clouds being obstructed by the Himalayan mountain range) & hence there’s no soft-soil & hence motorised & tracked vehicles can be employed throughout the Tibetan Pkateau. Eaxctly the opposite holds true for India where, again due to the Himalayas, the moisture & clouds are forced to get concentrated over the Northeast & northern India& consequently road-building is a near impossibility. Hence, air transportation by both fixed-wing transports & helicopters becomes critical for mobility. 3) No progress as yet. 4) Yes. 5) Designing isn’t the main roadblock. It s the engineering part that is most challenging, mainly from a metallurgical standpoint. 6) No, they are the same, but welding quality is totally different due to metallurgical reasons. 7) 12 months. 8) No one is presently developing such an MBRL. DRDO had only announced its wish/intent.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To DR KRG: Right now, it is choice for survival, since Pakistan is no different from the IEA & bth are close to total financial meltdown. Trying to tactically resolve the J & K issue does not mean Pakistan giving up its two-nation theory. Making peace with India while retaining PoJK/GB will save the CPEC & this in turn will assure geographic contiguity with China. Pakistan will find new excuses for possessing its arsenal of nuclear WMDs, such as having a Sunni strategic deterrent against the prospect of a nuclear WMD-armed Shia Iran. However, I’m far more worried about India’s ‘netas’ who already seem to have regularised China’s occupation of Aksai Chin & the Shaksgam Valley.

To SATYA: 1) India doesn’t require S-500 because both the PDV & PAD interceptor vehicles are under development & will be available in another 5 years. 2) Had India’s decision-makers been serious about liberating PoJK/GB, then the re-balancing & theaterisation of the armed forces should have begun after May 1998 itself & not in 2017.

To SANJEEV: The event of November 19 will see only these being ‘handed over’:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/two-hal-light-combat-choppers-deployed-in-ladakh/story-mQ3MtbvOn9KoNQprZtZw6O.html

This seems to be another ‘fashionable’ exercise, i.e. after IOC-1, IOC-2 & FOC, we now have this event of ‘handing over’. Only the ‘netas’ & ‘babus’ know what exactly all this means.

To RAD: That’s why de-icing systems are installed on such UAVs.But you can kindly rest assured that just like the sole flying Rustom-1 had crashed in Gadchiroli last February, the Rustom-2/Tapas too will be given a quiet burial (especially after the procurement of the Sky Guardian/Sea Guardian UAVs) & both the Rustom-1 & Rustom-2/Tapas will have glorious afterlife inside the DRDO’s museum!!!

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To KAUSTAV: VMT. The ban had become irrational after Finmeccanica was dissolved & LEONARDO was born. Now that AgustaWestland Helicopters PLC has also been de-listed from the MoD’s blacklist, the next step will be to terminate the arbitration proceedings that had been initiated. Only after that will it be possible to initiate commercial contacts wth AgustaWestland & it remains to be seen whether the 3 AW-101s already delivered willl be made airworthy for service-entry by the IAF. However, I have grave doubts about their service-entry simply because too much dirt has been thrown at the very idea of the IAF possessing VVIP transportation helicopters & hence six of the IAF’s Mi-17V-5s & Mi-171s had to be modified for VVIP transport. And why so? In my view, it all has to do with the present-day sick/regressive mindset that has arisen out of the Puranic-origin SANATAN DHARMA concept (preaching frugality & thrifty way of living) that presently dwarfs the original Vedic/Vedantic DHARMIC codes of conduct. Cult-centric Sanatan Dharma gained prominence over the past 20 years when colonial rule & its de-industrialisation of India was at its peak & hence was meant to serve as a pair of psychological crutches for India’s enslaved natives. But regretfully, Sanatan Dharma predominates post-independence India as well & its symbolism has repeatedly been invoked for selfish political milking. And such a confused state of affairs has been compounded by further confusing & irrational narratives, such as the differences between Hindusm & Hndutva, as exemplified by both a hilarious & thoughtful debate on this topic that was aired yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKbVM_3Q0Q0

At the other end of the spectrum we have the likes of Salman Khursheed who, while from a legal standpoint he accepts the SC’s verdict on the Ayodhya Ram Mandir issue, from his theological perspective he is unable to accept the replacement of a Mosque with a Temple because his Abrahamic religiosity-inspired tenets dictate that Islam is the world’s last religion & none will appear thereafter & hence a Mosque ought to be the latest & last place of worship that cannot be replaced by any other type of place of worship.

What gets lost in all this is that the AW-101s were an operational necessity for the credibility of India’s National Nuclear Command Authority, with VVIP transportation being a secondary reqmt. Nor can any twin-engined helicopter compete with the 3-engined helicopter since the laws of physics dictate that the latter type has a faster rate of climb, higher cruise speed, a greater max takeoff weight & greater survivability due to powerplant & hydraulic flight-controls redundancy—all of which are non-negotiable performance parameters for any VVIP transportation helicopter.

Cont'd below...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Which next brings us to the utterly brazen mis-reportng on the Sky Guardian & Sea Guardian UAVs yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAVhWjJMDxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03u4F7gjwpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxi0oIG5aZk

While that nitwit Srinjoy from TimesNOW does erroneous reporting (claiming that approval of the Defence Acquisition Council will come after the Defence Procurement Board’s approval, when in reality it is the DAC whose approval is reqd for the DPB to begin the procurements-related processes), the ‘desi patrakaars’ (the Aroor/Unnithan combine) from INDIA TODAY seem oblivious to the PA’s procurement of the HQ-9B HIMADS/LR-SAM, whose principal mission will be airspace denial & consequently will be used against Indian MALE-UAVs & HALE-UAVs even when they will be flying inside Indian airspace. Of course the same applies to the IAF’s S-400 LR-SAMs that will be used for denying the usage of friendly airspace for the MALE-UAVs & HALE-UAVs of both China & Pakistan as well as the AEW & CS platforms of the two countries. Not one of them even had a cluse about how the Sky Guardians & Sea Guardians would be flown & that nitwit Srinjoy made the spectacularly outrageous claim that such UAVs will be flown by technocrats & scientists, not by pilots!!! In reality, all 3 military operators in India will be using US comms satellite transponders for beyond-the-horizon data-linking with the UAVs & US-supplied & India-based encrypted modems will be used for two-day data-linking purposes—all this being possible due to the inking of the COMCASA foundational agreement. And connected to all this was this event, which has been glossed over by the ‘desi patrakaars’:

https://www.spacecom.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2810590/dickinson-meets-with-india-minister-of-defence/

https://twitter.com/drajaykumar_ias/status/1447906195264524288
https://twitter.com/drajaykumar_ias/status/1447111630979051523

And finally we have this hilarious spectacle, according to which Shaurya TBM & Nirbhay LACM are already in service, while former career diplomat Vishnu Prakash has suddenly become an expert on weapons employment & he claimed that he has serious misgivings about both China & India being S-400 operators:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_xz9clh3YY

So, in conclusion, yesterday proved to be quite a hilarious day in many respects & exposed several ‘desi nalaayaks’!

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

This is the Mukti Yoddha Hero who back in mid-1971 had given detailed imformation to India about the PA's inpenetrable defences in the Shakargarh Bulge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zGfgqKaHcY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk0S6B8CDZY

Despite all this & related warnings given to IA HQ by Lt Gen J F R 'Jake' Jacob, the IA's then COAS Gen Maneckshaw ignored all such warnings & authorised the IS to undertake the futile land offensive in the Shakargarh Bulge that only resulted in an uncalled-for slugfest & the aviodable loss of previous lives like that of 2nd Lt Arun Khetarpal during the Battle of Basantar--all this also being a matter of record in the Indian MoD's Official History of the 1971 War.

Unknown said...

Prasun da,
https://youtu.be/Is-qhmmbCBI
Ottoman Empire কি আবার তৈরি হতে চলেছে?

pm said...

Thank you sir for the info.

Ved said...

https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/hammer-missiles-france-lca-tejas-indian-air-force-defence-1877170-2021-11-16

Deat Prasun,

Have we already placed order for Hammer LGB for Rafales??

Further are we ordering them for Tejas as well?

If i remember correctly you had clearly said that integration of hammer is not possible with IAF Rafales as they use Israeli LDP.

What has changed since then or did I miss something?

Please clear my doubts.

Technology, Photograpy and Travel said...

Dada

any truth in this https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/hammer-missiles-france-lca-tejas-indian-air-force-defence-1877170-2021-11-16?fbclid=IwAR1xdeMV47ESNwBSkIefx8Q51AlSqsrMgeXDZiJRFQi6ysS0Xv-Rczpgh7E

Raghu said...

Dear Prasun,

Can you please explain the operational scenario of Sky and Sea Guardian UAVs and how they are likely to be exploited even given the threat of HQ-9B HIMADS/LR-SAM across the border?

Regards,

Raghu

3rd ~ EyE said...

https://twitter.com/hvtiaf/status/1459691620035489796

Do we have Kiran mk2 optionally manned prototype ?

DAshu said...

Netas not only regularised China’s occupation of Aksai Chin & the Shaksgam Valley but seem on overdrive to prepare the groundwork to surrender before CCP and PA in coming months.
ONLY CORRECTION here is not the only netas equally ARMED FORCES too.
That's why increased showmanship like handing over LCH without its fully loaded armaments certification, by the PM and open handshake by PAF officials with IAF officials in Dubai air show, etc.

finally, we can give a complete burial of taking the GB(PoK) question.

Pratap said...

Prasun da,

1) There are reports that during Putin's visit India and Russia will sign an agreement for Military technical cooperation for the next decade 2021-2031. What possible joint collaboration do you see between Russia and India in this field in the next decade? We haven't developed anything together after BrahMos.

2) India also signed a 10 year defence collaborate plan with Israel. Can we expect some Barak-8 like joint military hardware development as a result of this agreement?

3) There are a lot of speculations going about the S-500. You have said that India has opted only for the 380 KM range missile of the S-400 complex and that India will also get the two new hypersonic missiles that Russia has developed for the S-500 as part of the 5.5 billion dollars deal. Doesn't that already makes India the first foreign customer of the S-500?

4) How many TELs are we getting in the five regiments of S-400 that we have ordered?

Parthasarathi said...

Prasunda,

This question is related with power supply for radar. At Tejas radar get power supply probably from engine not from auxiliary power unit.
Can't we install a auxiliary power unit for electronic and utility use ! Then that much of power ( 10 -12 Kilowatt ) will be available for thrust.
Secondly how the radars are getting cooled in stealth aircrafts ! We know engine can be installed but if radar is insulated then inner heat will not disapitiate. Electronic will get damaged.
Best regards.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ANUP & TECHNOLOGY, PHOTOGRAPHY & TRAVEL: The following thread answers your queries.

To VED: What I had stated was that AASM/HAMMER can be integrated with Litening LDP but at an additional cost due to additional software upgrades reqd for weapons interfacing.

To RAGHU: All UAVs for surveillance can be used during peacetime without any hiccups. But during wartime when airspaces will be contested, unless complete air supremacy is achieved, it will be impossible for UAVS of any type to operate unhindered at medium & high altitudes.

To 3rd-EYE: LoLz! Do remotely controlled or unmanned aircraft really carry all such cockpit avionics & instrumentation? Sound common-sense therefore dictates that someone really STUPID is engaging in such antics.

To DASHU: The hell-hole that North-East India has been reduced to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0eu6OW-czY&t=11s

Pakistan's New Ambassador To US: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbFZhyeNri8

How a Pakistani citizen can become the President of ‘Azaad Kashmir’ is anyone’s guess!

PLAGF Winter Habitat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3nJIWk3UzU

PLAGF Decoy Dispensers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WulcL5_up-A&t=31s