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Wednesday, May 18, 2022

Indian Navy's New Helicopter-Launched Missiles

After living for 14 years without helicopter-launched anti-ship cruise missiles, the Indian Navy (IN) will this June re-equip itself with such missiles with the arrival of about 100 Kongsberg HSMs that will arm the 24 Lockheed Martin/Sikorsky MH-60R shipborne naval multi-role helicopters that are on order for the IN.


It may be recalled that the IN had MBDA-built Sea Eagle subsonic helicopter-launched anti-ship cruise missiles that were service-inducted back in 1988 and were decommissioned in 2008.

The HSMs are likely to be followed by the DRDO-developed and Bharat Dynamics Ltd-built NASM-SR missiles. The maiden test-firing of the NASM-SR from an IN Sea King Mk.42B was conducted on May 18, 2022. At least nine more test-firings in both single-mode and ripple-fire mode will be required to be conducted before the NASM-SR is cleared for service-entry sometimes in 2025.

R & D work is also underway on developing a 130km-range, high-subsonic NASM-MR variant (usable by both airborne LRMR/ASW platforms and principal surface combatants) that will make use of the IMR seeker now board the BrahMos-1 Extended-Range supersonic multi-role cruise missile.

131 comments:

DAshu said...

After seeing this Sea Eagle ASCM realized NAG designers are not that mad to have multiple exhaust nozzle.

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

With the new bridges China is building in the Pangong-Tso area, wo'nt the PLAGF have a decisive advantage, allowing them to initiate conflict to 'teach a lesson' along the LAC ?

T9BK8

rad said...


hi prasun
will US allow us to integrate the nasm on to the r-60? did any input come from konsberg while designing the nasm as a quid pro for buying the norweigian missile

HOw far have we come in IIR tech? what about the desi IIRseeker for the proposed CCM .?

we seeem to have selected the older version of sa-16 manpads in the shoot off . will it be possible to upgrade the missile to the 3 color IIR veriosn Ie the verba?

The OFB site says India is producing RPG-7 AS well?. why ?

There are reports thathte OFB ammon screwed the sig 716 but on the opposite side OFB seems to been exporting 7.72 ammo?


Sanjeev said...

Any recent news on mk1A? Wasn't it supposed to be unveiled in April?

buddha said...

Sir why procurement of 30 Predator drones in a proposed $3 billion deal for Indian Army Navy and Airforce is out of news ....
Why next tranche of KI Vajra is not being ordered and its supporting vehicle..
Is any effort going on to purchase heavy torpedo for scorpion submarine fleet..

Does Recent France visit by PM Modi include additional purchase of scorpion class submarine and what will be fate of Rafale..36 would not make any difference
Is combined order by Navy and airforce on
Agenda
Can NASM SR be launched from navalised Rudra..And tejas...
What are the main impediment of ITCM or Nirbhay missile..Program.
Does India need 10thousand such missile for next decade if It wants to make parity with pakistan and chinese combined fire power..
Big ticket Procurement of navy like proposed helicopter carrier and 5 replenishment ship is in limbo..
Is India thinking for more C130 and CH 47 in large number for tactical lift
Hope your good suggestion of making air launched version of Prahara /Pinaka/Pralay missile will reach the concerned authority.. ..

Govind said...

Sir, why does the Indian Army operate assault rifles of different calibre 7.62x51mm, 5.56x45mm and 7.62x39mm?
Won't this be a logistical nightmare in a real war?

VSJ said...

1) Has giving up aug 2020 positions has resulted in us permanently losing potential offensive edge in Kailash range? With a new road and two bridges chinese seem to be countering them permanently.

2) We once talked about humvee based mobile divisions but you shot it down as too vulnerable to atgm fire. But now with army giving out RFI for MRAP sized 14T vehicles is it possible to convert some vanilla infantry division mounted on truck to semi mechanized?
What advantages do regular infantry trucks have over mobile APC/MRAPS?
1 M4 type can carry a 2 crew + 8 man section. 12 can carry a company.
Adding 6 vehicles each with 14.5 mm RWS and 40 mm Mk19 AGL RWS will give heavy firepower boost at 1.5 km LOS to each company. More ballistic protection than trucks.

Thanks in advance.

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

You have frequently pointed out about the use of bmp/Tank chassis mounted heavy mortars. PRC uses 120mm mortars, the Russians seem to use the 240mm Tank Chassis mounted Tyulpan mortars to good effect.

This serms to be the kind of weapon that India could deploy indigenously & would be useful against both PRC & Paxtan. The other utility besides vertical strikes is their ability to launch loitering drones.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ANUP: Because India wants semiconductor foundries for producing 65-nanometre & 45-nanometre microchips, whereas the TSMC facility in Singapore will produce 7-nanometre microchips. Watch this:

India’s Semiconductor Saviour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Z_uFwxPtk

To DASHU: The Spike ATGM too has thruster, but only 2 & not 4 like the Nag:

Spike: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjfBqNEcv70

And India’s ‘Peanuts’ moment: https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-to-offer-india-500-million-in-military-aid-to-reduce-dependence-on-russia-101652853517651.html

To T9BK8: Not at all. During wartikme such bridges will be easy targets for the IA’s artillery fire-assault Batteries located in northwest Chushul.

To RAD: Why not? The NASM-SR can easily be integrated with both MH-60R & P-8I since the missile’s integration source-codes (reqd by the platforms’ weapons management system) are DRDO-owned & therefore can easily be shared with Boeing, Raytheon & Northrop Grumman. IIR seekers for ATGMs (Nag & HELINA) & NASM-SR & AD-1 have been perfected for mass-production using Israel-supplied microchips (reqd for focal plane arrays & staring gate arrays) while the seeker for MANPADS/VSHORADS is still in the developmental stage.

https://theprint.in/defence/india-to-ink-repeat-order-deal-for-73000-sig-716-rifles-from-the-us/962103/

To SANJEEV: No. It was postponed to June 2022.

To BUDDHA: Because those contracts are still being negotiated. NASM-SR is too big for Naval Dhruv ALH. However, HELINA & SANT can go on board. Subsonic cruise missiles are rapidly becoming obsolete due to advances in SAMs capable of knocking out such cruise missiles.

To VSJ: 1) Not at all, fo such feats can be repeated. The IA has only withdrawn from such dominating positions but not permanently. 2) here’s the latest RFI:

https://indianarmy.nic.in/writereaddata/RFI/836/RFIDGST19052022.pdf

LSVs, LAMVs & PMVs are all used for different missions during peacetime & war. For instance, watch this video about how the PLAGF uses its MGS along with LAMVs & PMVs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDbISyf8D14

To KAUSTAV: Weapons like Tyulpan are ‘siege’ weapons designed for FIBUA battles. The IA shirks away from FIBUA-type engagements & that’s why even in 1971 the IA formations in East Pakistan did not bother to take on the PA forces that were entrenched in towns & cities. In fact, the IA does not even have field manual dealing with FIBUA battles. Even in future battles against China & Pakistan, the IA has no plan for capturing any town or city in the plains & highlands.

Pinkal Shah said...

Dear Prasun,

Greetings!!

came across article on HAL indigenization of fighters & helicopters achieved till 2019, does it hold true as of 2022, if not whether there is any chance to increase/achieve in location of content upto 90% (for ongoing HAL orders) in next 5 years.

Article say " HAL produced and produces MiG-21, MiG-27 and Su-30MKI aircraft under license from the USSR/ Russia, Jaguars and Hawks from the UK, Dornier Do-228 from Germany and Chetak and Cheetah helicopters from France. The degree of indigenisation achieved is broken down into indigenisation by content and indigenisation by value. By these measures, in the past, India achieved 90 per cent indigenisation by content of the Chetak (72 per cent of its engine), 88 per cent of the Jaguar (84 per cent of its engine) and over 96 per cent of the MiG-21b is engine, again by content.

In more recent times, HAL has achieved a 75 per cent indigenisation by content of the Su-30MKI (60 per cent by value), 72 per cent indigenisation by content of the BAE Hawk (42 per cent by value) and 73 per cent by content of the Do-228 (40 per cent by value). Contractual decisions as to indigenisation levels by content and value are decided by the priority to be given to the project and the timelines involved.

HAL has two indigenous designs in production – the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas and the Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH) Dhruv. The former is 75 per cent indigenous by content and 60 per cent indigenous by value while the latter is 75 per cent indigenous by content and 52 per cent indigenous by value.
"


Tololing said...

1.Prasunda , can you enlighten us sir what is the composition of our infantry platoon HQ(6 or 7 men) and company hq?Specifically i want to know if we have a weapons support platoon at company level like USMC or just the battalion support company only.And where do the 51mm mortar fit in?

2.How many LMG per section?1 or 2? Some say one,some 2,some say one in mountains and 2 in plains.

3.Do we have Carl gustav in every section in infantry battalions(non-mech).Or at platoon level?

4.There were reports that army had set up plans to reorganize infantry battalions into 3 companies instead of 4,new strength of 170 men each,eliminating one Company HQ of 25men.Each section would increase to 14 men.What do you think of this plan's merits and has it made any progress or dead with General Rawat's passing?

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/missile-firing-iaf-inquiry-on-but-pak-seeks-joint-probe/articleshow/90176509.cms

The author of this article claims to have been informed by 'sources' that strategic missiles like the Agni series carry self-destruct mechanisms. If true, would this not be very foolish, allowing any adversary a chance to sabotage the deterrent ? Or is it simply fake news ?

T9BK8

Anonymous said...

GS RFI is strange. Does not mention protection class or safety rating required (ncap ?).


Regards
Venky

just_curious said...

Prasun,

1-will there be a supersonic version of NASM if subsonic type's days are numbered?
2-MDL designing its own SSK? how true and how far are they from it materializing into actual product?
3-what gets discussed in Quad .. conclusion of Rus-UKR war? also what prompted Finland , Sweden to jump into the NATO bandwagon seems like they have been coercived.. why now when they did not at the peak of cold war?
4-You mentioned IN needing more seakings for minesweeping roles .. where would they get them from(assuming repurposed ones for quick buys)can't ALH/MH60's do the job or wait for IMRH version
5-The new S Korean PM showing keen interest in joining QUAD? how will china/russia react?

Park cho Moon said...

Small correction: South Korea only has a President not a PM

just_curious said...

Prasun,

6- why is the IN going ahead with the Rafale & FA 18 testing? is IAC 2 still on the MoD table?

Anonymous said...

Sir,
What initiatives DRDO is taking to enhance the accuracy of our country's arms/ammunition/missiles, etc. for pinpoint strike and reduced collateral damage? What collaboration it is making with Scientific Universities working on fundamental domains viz. Space, robotics, etc.

AKS

F said...

Prasun,

What do you think HAL's chances are of selling Tejas to the RMAF?

Anonymous said...

The Chinese video on Taiwan floating around. Looks like fake. Action could happen, but elsewhere. Your thoughts ?

Regards
Venky

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To PINKAL SHAH: So what do such figures reveal? The indigenisation levels by material content value for imported levels have been achieved when the concerned platforms have already approached the end of their operational service-lives. For instance, the T-72Ms began being licenced=-produced in 1988 & even by 2020 only 80% was indigenised. The same will be the case with Su-30MKI. On the other hand, when it comes to indigenously developed platforms like ALH & LCA, the pace of indigenisation of materials has been much quicker (with the timeframe being cut almost by half). Hence, it stands to reason that more & more indigenous platforms need to be service-inducted without any interruption.

To TOLOLING: 1, 2, 3 & 4) Such figures are openly available online. USMC ORBAT is totally different from those of others as the USMC has an expeditionary role to play. In India only the 50 Para Brigade has such a role.

To T9BK8: It is the other way around, i.e. only conventional warhead-equipped SS-BSMs have self-destruct mechanisms. Nuclear warhead-equipped BMs have PALS, not self-destruct mechanisms. This is what PALS is:

https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/nsam-160/pal.html

To VENKY: The RFQs will contain the specific parameters. Such videos are all part of disinformation efforts.

To JUST_CURIOUS: 1) Not reqd, as the range is only up to the horizon. 2) It can be done, since the reqd skilled human resources can come via outsourcing for the sake of procuring the reqd proprietary IPRs. 3) QUAD is multi-faceted, but the core military aspects will be dealt with by AUKUS & the Five Eyes grouping. 4) There exists different types of airborne minesweeping gear. The heavier ones are used by the CH-53s of the US Navy & Japan’s MSDF. ALH cannot do the job. This is the Raytheon kit:

https://www.raytheonmissilesanddefense.com/what-we-do/naval-warfare/sensors/airborne-mine-neutralization-system

5) They are interested in the QUAD’s AUKUS component. 6) No harm in hosting such demonstrations for as long as they are on a no-cost no commitment basis.

To F: If the Tejas LCA is to be sold to Malaysia then the following Israel-origin hardware needs to be replaced with comparable hardware from US/European sources: A) EL/M-2055 AESA-MMR. B) TARGO HMDS. C) Litening LDP & RecceLite pod.

Anonymous said...

Sir,

It's new project?

https://twitter.com/Archit_Ch/status/1528744911134085120?t=uIMXS8pRlCHfz44s_GROUw&s=19

Regards
Anway

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To VENKY: Here's the audio leak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6LT5y5YaSo

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/china-1-40-lakh-troops-953-ships-leaked-audio-clip-exposes-xi-jinping-mission-taiwan-101653294350647.html

Indian Navy RFI for National Hospital Ship:

https://indiannavy.nic.in/sites/default/files/Request%20for%20Information%20for%20National%20Hospital%20Ship.pdf?download=1

Judging by this interview, it does seem that India will soon re-open its Embassy & Consulates in Afghanistan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEXlczqPXSQ

asd said...

Dear Prasun,

1. What's your view upon conviction of Yasin Malik? Even you earlier wished him to be hanged!!! Is our court under pressure not to hand over capital punishment?

2. During the 90's we used to listen about the India's missile project called Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme. After this successful project completion, what's the future directions of the Indian missile programme? Or like Indian attitude, we are telling "baad main dekha jayega".

Please share your views. Thanks in advance.

Pratap said...

Sir, any comments on the situation in Pakistan? Looks like it is descending into chaos and will result in total collapse unless bailed out again by the West. This could provide once in a lifetime opportunity to do something big in POK. But I think we are too focused on the situation in Ladakh to consider doing anything in POK.

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

Is there any truth to this ? If so, why is GOI nor procuring enough 155 mm ammo ?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/nagpur/ordnance-psu-idle-as-negligible-orders-for-artillery-shells-in-four-years/articleshow/91715181.cms?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOIDesktop

Satyaki


Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ANWAY: It is an 18-year-old project.

To ASD: 1) He still faces trial in killing of four unarmed IAF men (that carries the death penalty) and kidnapping of Rubaiya Sayeed. The 2 cases in which he has been convicted don’t carry the death penalty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxromcSn6Ss

2) The IGMDP has evolved over the years to include more types of standoff PGMs.

To PRATAP: These should provide you with some answers:

https://theprint.in/go-to-pakistan/how-pakistan-economy-was-in-fast-lane-for-30-yrs-but-its-engine-kept-overheating-with-debt/969026/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tAdUFiFsFs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1dZ1bpTdgw

To SATYAKI: The information given is FAKE NEWS because OF Ambajhari NEVER produced any kind of artillery rounds, as explained here:

https://ddpdoo.gov.in/units/OFAJ

Instead, the following OFs produce the rounds & their bi-modular charges:

OF Badmal, Bolangir: https://ddpdoo.gov.in/units/OFBOL

OF Nalanda, Rajgir: https://www.indianembassyberlin.gov.in/pdf/Tendernotice_12.pdf

https://ddpdoo.gov.in/uploads/Documents/618bde46b56b063366b4793837e04181.pdf

Just_curious said...

Prasun,
Any updates from defence & technology expo chennai?

KAUSHIK said...

Hello sir,
1. There is a buzz in the internet that F/A 18 super hornet may get selected for IN. What are the chances of that? Is rafale m in disadvantageous position compared to super hornet? Wouldn't it be prudent to club the orders of additional rafale for iaf and IN together?
2. Is the P 75i program dead?
3. There was a recent news that IA has requested to HF SDR radio which radio will be selected bnet or indigenous one? Also if you could share the specifications of that radio.
4. When will be a new CDS be appointed?

DAshu said...

That Doval fella opened his mouth again who cannot deter Paki to stop cross border drone flights talking about enhancing Afghanistan's Counter terror capacity- what does this even mean in the current scenario. Giving legitimacy to current govt ?

James said...

Two interesting videos offering French and Japanese perspectives:

Off The Cuff with François Heisbourg:
https://youtu.be/HSsrRhPaSrw

China Threat: 'Firm Establishment Of Quad' In 'Most Productive Summit'; But Need For Security Teeth?:
https://youtu.be/eiaAx6F7AW0

Anonymous said...

Sir,

It's true?

https://twitter.com/cvkrishnan/status/1530471826631331845?t=3zavR68NRJcaMtqtGOjWmA&s=19

Regards
Anway

AMIT BISWAS said...

If IA shirks of FIBUA type engagements..then won't it put them in disadvantageous position?? I mean we assume that army goes through war planning for every scenario

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

Russia is said to have fired over 2154 conventional missiles at Ukraine. According to this link, 630 of them are Iskanders (both cruise and ballistic missiles).

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-russias-air-war-ukraine-total-failure-new-data-show-1709388

1) How many of the Iskanders were ballistic ?

2) How many Iskanders per launcher does Russia maintain ?

3) Of the remaining 1500+ missiles, how many are long range cruise missiles of the Kalibr/Kh-101/Kh-55/555 type ?

4) How true is the assertion in this article that only 40% or so of the missiles fired by Russia reached their targets ?

Satyaki

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To JUST_CURIOUS: Nothing new exhibited at that expo.

To KAUSHIK: 1) It will remain just a buzz, rest assured. 2) Yes, and here’s why:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRFUwMqDQWk

The panellists are flagging the very same issues that I have consistently flagged over the years.

3) The requirement is the high frequency (HF), Ultra High Frequency (UHF) and Very High Frequency (VHF). Indian army’s Corp of Signals is the lead agency for the programme. The Indian Air Force (IAF) is expected to order around 5,000 SDRs, which would include both hands held and airborne (for aircraft) sets. Rest will go to Indian Navy. The combined requirement for the three services--Army, Navy, and Air Force is over 55,000 wherein the Army’s share is around 50,000 of these radios.

https://www.makeinindiadefence.gov.in/admin/writereaddata/upload/project/eoi/EoI_for_VUHF_SDR_(Make-II)on_23_Jun_2020pdf.pdf

https://indianarmy.nic.in/writereaddata/RFI/837/Sigs5EoI240522.pdf

4) It is not just about a single CDS being appointed. The last time this was done, it created only chaos & confusion. In India, decision-makers are obsessed with personality-centric phenomena & that’s why starting from the very top we have hundreds of PM’s Yojanas & vaccination drives, when in reality they need to be presented as inclusive all-India initiatives. These malpractices then percolate down to, for instance, the armed services, with several past & present service chiefs labelling their services as ‘organisations’ when in reality they are ‘institutions’. That’s why only the post of CDS was accorded publicity & priority without first creating the institution of the CDS, i.e. the post of CDDS should have been accompanied by the post of Vice-CDS & a range of Deputy CDSes, with one of them (the Chief of the Integrated Defence Staff or CIDS) heading the Dept of Military Affairs dedicated to the overseeing & guiding of capital procurement projects, thereby leaving the CDS to focus exclusively on formulation of joint warfighting doctrines & the consequent theaterisation of joint geographic commands. That’s how it is done in the rest of the world, except in India.

To DASHU: here are the latest violations of Indian airspace by UAVs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KOqjvgCT8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XppGDuS6vQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSOI_568pI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NWi1ujjalQ

And here is pathetic state of J & K UT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tikIakC8cac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlQScw-iRfo&t=37s

Ever since the Kashmiri Pandits were accommodated in makeshift camps in Jammu & elsewhere since early 1990, not a single Indian PM or Union Home Affairs Minister has visited any such camp. That alone proves how much successive Govts of India have cared about the plight of such internally displaced communities!!!

To ANWAY: That is only a wishlist. Not a single direct offsets contract has been inked to date.

To AMIT BISWAS: Not if the IA is of the view that it won’t ever engage in any FIBUA/MOUT engagements for the sake of securing its battlefield objectives. For example, under a nuclear overhang, the IA won’t even consider taking the battle into the adversary’s populated areas like Phillora or Sialkot or Shakargarh.

https://theprint.in/opinion/tanks-will-win-you-battles-just-dont-leave-them-alone-like-russians-did-in-ukraine/973703/

IA Must Change: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5JOXXD3hBw

To SATYAKI: 1) None. Iskanders are SS-BSMs, not BMs. 2) Two, as several videos have already shown. 3 & 4) Read this:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/captured-russian-weapons-are-packed-with-foreign-microchips

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

So sticky bombs (magnetic grenades) & UBGL Grenades from Afghan US Arms are being sent by UAV. What is the Govt. of India doing to what are brazen acts of War. This means that India is politically unable to give directions to Armed Forces to defend India.
India might not admit it, but basically India is at war with state of Paxtan but isn't giving direction to the Military Forces to defend India. Is the world's fourth largest Military, third most powerful Airforce ( better than PLAAF) apparently unable to defend India from aggression?!

ANKIT KUMAR said...

Your thoughts on trimming of MMRCA 2.0 from 114 to 57 Aircrafts, now to be procured unde Buy Global, Make in India?

just_curious said...

Prasun,

- Japan opening up its defence sector ..anything that India can benefit from it?

Susan said...

Prasun da

International media has declared China as victor in 2020-22 border war.True or False

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/china-india-border-crisis-has-quietly-resulted-in-victory-for-beijing

Now Hindu Vs Muslim is use by government to hide this.

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

The Unmanned Underwater Vehicle projects proposed by L& T as well as MDL seem interesting & practical given the experience India has gained & also hiatus after 6th Scorpene launch.

The USN's Orca seems a good model to follow Also the fact that it's Li-Ion batteries would reduce complexity & give near AIP performance.


https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/navys-85-foot-orca-unmanned-submarine-will-be-a-minelayer-first

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

And Finally Time for you to say again 'I TOLD YOU SO' - Apparently logic, common sense, economics & even Atmanirbharta allow no other path - Reduce the numbers & drop the Strategic Partnerships or even Make in India mode to purchase 57 multi-role combat aircraft.

It ahould be the 57 Rafale for IAF then & why not 26 F-18 for the IN tho Rafales make sense too

https://www.businessworld.in/article/India-cuts-back-world-s-largest-fighter-jet-procurement-programme-by-half-/30-05-2022-430673#

asd said...

Dear Prasun,

Once you told that earlier Russia too asked India to compromise with Kashmir with regard to Chinese CPEC. What kind of friendship is this??? Please explain the scenario once in layman words. Apology in advance if I couldn't understand it.

rad said...

HIprasun
the drive also says that the pl-15 missile has a aesa seeker , will theyrisk giving that to pak ? is it unjammable ? do we need a aesa jammer to counter that?. can the normal jammers counter it?.

the are talks of the aesa radar seeker going on the astra later version and the astra ramjet mk3 when will they come in?

High time we start making desi aesa jammers as we seem to have aesa modules for all the bands c,s,x,ka etc. so can the antenna face be swapped and an aesa antyenn put n place ? is it simple as that. ?

can the pesa radar of the su-30 mki be programmend and used as an x band jammer after all it has a massive antenna face with high ERP. That would be wonder full to stop the enemy trying to search track and lock on to su -30. after all all airborne fighter radars seem to have th x band as their operational freq.?

the drive also says that russian avionics use american processors. now where do we go from here as the its quite obvious that the super su-30mki aesa radar will be using american processors and that makes the super sukhoi a dream?

rad said...


HI prasun
Is it difficult to make uhf and vhf aesa radars ? what would be the tech challenge for us > i believe low cost power amps are available commerically in freq that could handle 500w per module. we cud make anti stealth radars with them.

just_curious said...

Prasun,

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os1tzbZhlyU-- Seems erdogan is playing dirty again , if true..

just_curious said...

Prasun,

2-50 member TTP delegation to meet Pakis in Kabul.. is afghan taliban brokering a peace deal?
3- Cambridge/Oxford stop/cancel vivek agnihorti's address at their repmise after inviting him.. global left-Islamist forces seem to @work when you also consider turkey's sudden rejection of indian wheat

Sidharth said...

Prasun da,

https://eurasiantimes.com/1st-batch-of-lca-tejas-for-indian-air-force-had-28-concessions/?amp

What's your view on this analysis of ex IAF pilot

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

VMT. 2 Iskanders per launcher is what the Russians have in a ready to fire position. What about reloads ?

Satyaki

Anonymous said...

@Prasunda

I want you to treat this thread as two major components and give your respective views on them.

One, dealing with the present day dynamics of India-Quad and 'NATO of EastAsia' and the other on the possible prep for a G-3 world featuring 'US, China, India' among the US establishment.

https://twitter.com/kenmoriyasu/status/1531784523926556672?s=20&t=MaDrQkRHT3XS2BgSQa04hg


Regards,
Abs

DAshu said...

Combined incompetence of GoI is on full show, especially the Shah-Doval combo.

And as you hinted India is about to recognize Taliban. Good move ?

And finally the victory of CCP over India is getting recognized world over through PLA and as well as through trade.

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pacific/2022/06/02/india-orders-astra-weapon-in-move-to-break-dependence-on-foreign-missiles/

This journalist claims that the Astra Mk-I is too bulky (50 kgs heavier than required) and has an operational range of only 60 km as per an anonymous IAF officer. Fake news ? If so, should'nt such peddlers of fake news face consequences ?

Ashwatthama

Just_curious said...

Targetted killings in kashmir..surely something needs to be done to put porkis in their place

Just_curious said...

Interesting article- https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/indias-engagement-with-taliban-should-redefine-tajikistan-relationship-101654311607084.html...
How true is it and how strong is Indias relationship with central asians

shukant chatrath said...

Sir apart from a flying test bed what different types of jet engine testing infrastructure is still missing in India and is the government doing something to acquire the required infrastructure?????

asd said...

Dear Prasun,

Please share your views upon Indian embassy's rebuttal upon Kuwait's government reaction to Nupur Sharma statement. Isn't it GoI bowed before it? When M F Hussain drew nude paintings of Hindu Gods and Goddesses, Kuwait granted citizenship to him. So secularism is one sided. Recently many Muslims reacted badly to Shivling due to Gyanvaapi mosque issue. And now ranting sar tan se juda!!!

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

Some suggestions are that India should now go after those that have insulted shivlings & file FIRs. That would be internationally stupid, if not universally so.

India's moves on the Ukrainian Issue & how India restricts it's Oil purchases hereon . To all Indians remember this spectacle of real 'SAB PE NIRBHAR'. No Atmanirbhar country gives in to such pressures unless they are really not so. The wannabe Vishwaguru has just found that they are still junior students where the US is the senior Headmaster & the US's own favourite senio student Qatar just disciplined the new Junior with a sound whacking as Secretary Blinken directed

Pratap said...

They didn't bow down to anybody. Read the press release issued by the embassy. The matchbox size Islamist kingdom was demanding pUbLiC aPoLogY from GoI, but forget GoI, even the embassy did not apologise. The embassy did not even express any regret, lol.

Arjun said...

Why are we letting this tiny, terrorist-sponsoring country Qatar humiliate us and dictate our internal affairs? Now these gulf jihadis will butt into every discussion about South Asian Muslims. Where's their f**king solidarity for Chinese genocide of Uighers?

This is why IN is asking for 3 CVNs and we have foolishly ignored that. Next time this happens, we need to blockade their peninsula and threaten an amphibious assault unless they learn to shut up. Use RAW and start assassinating these fat sheikhs.

Also BJP's handling of Hindu-Muslim issues is so stupid. They are using Hindus as votebank, but we keep loosing to their shortsighted policies. USA will achieve its goal of balkanizing this country unless we start thinking rationally and strategically. India is too much a potential competitor for them to trust us. This is why CIA and CIA-controlled NGOs/intelligentsia are launching thousands of toolkits against us.

Anonymous said...

One question about the 114 MRFA acquisition (https://www.financialexpress.com/defence/iaf-to-vault-multi-role-fighter-aircraft-program-under-buy-global-make-india-114-aircraft-in-the-pipeline-intact/2548146/). Why is this process is needed. We have already purchased 36 Rafale. Any additional requirement needs to be the same aircraft off-the-shelf, which makes sense from capability and logistics point of view, esp. because the next variant of Tejas isn't ready yet.
I may be missing something as my knowledge is limited, something here does not feel right.

Just_curious said...

What is project 28a Corvettes..how r they did from ngmv?? Then there are the shallow water anti sub boats too

just_curious said...

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/un-must-ensure-human-rights-in-kashmir-says-german-foreign-minister-annalena-baerbock-in-islamabad/ar-AAYbc3O?li=AAgges1
--serious foot in the mouth disease... the germans are generally at odds with us ...why are they even engaging porkis at this stage when they are perinially @the brink of economic collapse..time to teach the germans some manners...

Samparan Singh Gulmar said...

The fault lies with India. Like Prasun said earlier, India ought to parade the captured terrorists in J&K and get them to speak to the camera re: their identity and also display the slain terrorists thereby proving that these guys are crossing over from Pakistan and they are not Indian nationals. India needs to also show foreign journalists and diplomats the actual ground situation and security operations against the militants and terrorists NOT average civilians. There ought to be more public relations campaign to show the world how ordinary Kashmiris are suffering as a result of Pakistani sponsored violence. Instead the Indian government is keeping silent and shutting down media like China does thereby encouraging conjecture and rumour.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To KAUSTAV: Yes, indeed. On one hand one proclaims that there’s ZERO tolerance for terrorism but in practice one is displaying inexhaustible tolerance to continued violations of Indian airspace by Pakistan! The MRFA will indeed be the Rafale but there will be NO licenced-production due to financial/industrial that I have given numerous times before. If it costs 2.5 times more to licence-build third-generation MRCAs like Su-30MKI, then it stands to reason that it will cost up to 6.5 times more to licence-build a Gen-4 M-MRCA like Rafale or any other Gen-4 MRCA. No one can dispute this fact. Hence, all those claiming that the MRFA will be licence-built in India are either IDIOTS, or are spectacularly ignorant of ground realities.

To ANKIT KUMAR: LoLz! That’s FAKE NEWS. In addition, the MRFA will indeed be the Rafale but there will be NO licenced-production due to financial/industrial that I have given numerous times before. If it costs 2.5 times more to licence-build third-generation MRCAs like Su-30MKI, then it stands to reason that it will cost up to 6.5 times more to licence-build a Gen-4 M-MRCA like Rafale or any other Gen-4 MRCA. No one can dispute this fact. Hence, all those claiming that the MRFA will be licence-built in India are either IDIOTS, or are spectacularly ignorant of ground realities.

To JUST_CURIOUS: Japan is very strong in cutting-edge naval technologies like integrated masts & distributed active phased-array radars, plus composites-built warship sub-structures. Talks between TTP & Pakistan Govt are bound to fail because the TTP’s demands are such that Pakistan cannot fulfil them. Regarding Project 28A, no such project exists & the following is FAKE:

https://i.redd.it/3zzti5pnrnp81.jpg

To SUSAN: China has won in the sense that it has finally permanently annexed the Depsang Plains where the IA used to patrol before 2013 but cannot since 2014.

China Has No Intention Of Humouring India On The LAC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-36dS4sLIh0

To RAD: As I had stated before, the PL-12 BVRAAM is equipped with active radar-homing seeker developed by Ukraine’s Radionix. It uses a dual-thrust solid rocket motor and can exceed Mach 4 and endure 38 G. The missile’s omnidirectional sensors are accurate to within 1 metre. Its active radar seeker is the Ka-band ‘Onyx’ from Radionix, which has a range of 25km, search area of +/-40 degrees in azimuth and elevation and offers “fire-and-forget” capabilities. It has a 24kg warhead and uses a radio proximity fuse. Initial versions of the PL-12 had used the Russia-origin Agat/Istok 9B-1350E Ku-band seekers. The latest PL-15 BVRAAM, under development since 2009, was first test-fired on September 15, 2015. The missile weighs 210kg, has a range of 145km and uses a dual-pulse, smokeless solid-propellant rocket motor for extended range (two fuel chambers and one exhaust nozzle) that was originally developed by south Africa’s Denel Dynamics for the ‘Marlin’ BVRAAM. For long-range engagements the first pulse fires and the missile glides towards its target before the second pulse fires at a later point in time. For shorter engagements, both pulses can be fired almost simultaneously. Top speed is close to Mach 4. The active radar seeker is the Ka-band ‘Onyx’. Flight control is by servo motor-controlled fins. The PL-15’s airframe can sustain 30 G and its leading edges can function in temperatures of both -50 degrees Celsius and + 900 degrees Celsius once launched.

PESA-MMRs cannot be used for duirectional jamming. Only AESA-MMRs can.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SIDHARTH: Yes, it is true that 28 concessions were made but most of them have been eliminated on the Tejas Mk.1A & will be totally eliminated on the Tejas AS Mk.2 MWF.

To SATYAKI: Two reloads per supply vehicle & as many resupply vehicles as reqd can be accommodated.

To ABS: The NATO of East Asia is the AUKUS, not the QUAD. The G-3 is an non-implementable concept.

To DASHU: India’s engagements with the IEA will be transactional along expected lines, as explained here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CCt4hR68cA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8_aVAraa7Y

To ASHWATTHAMA: Operational range of Astra-1 BVRAAM diifers in different altitude regimes, i.e. at an altitude of 5,000 feet ASL it will be 45km whereas beyond 12,000 feet ASL it will be up to 87km.

To SHUKANTH CHATRATH: None. Only a flying airborne testbed like a modified IL-76MD is reqd.

To ASD: LoLz! Since childhood, I have seen scantily-clad Indian Gods & Goddesses being drawn in AMAR CHITRA KATHA comic-books. The same goes for several Indian movies & soap-operas in various languages. Here are a few of them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIlCqg__Nvg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcahdsGOhI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnq0bvJMAV8

Should we also lock horns over why the likes of Krishna, Rama & Shiva have been portrayed with brown skin complexion when traditionally they have bluish skin complexion? Therefore, to single out just M F Hussein will be an act of dishonesty. But you are not the only one who has fallen victim to such confusion. Matters have worsened to such an extent that sects & cults are now opposing one another through competitive benchmarking both in northern & southern India & hence no one has the patience to listen to the likes of the RSS supremo. For instance, the Karni Sena has openly questioned the ‘generosity’ of Hindi-speaking Hindu litigants of Ayodhya, Kashi & Mathura & instead it wants some 3,500 Mosques to be re-converted to Temples no matter what the cost (even if it means waging war against India by any means). The VHP has adopted a similar stance. Down south the Shri Ram Sena has adopted its own stance & will not obey the diktats of Hindi-speaking ‘Hindus’. And finally, we have the self-styled convenors of the ‘Dharam Sansads’ who are now engrossed in infighting, i.e. it was always a money-making exercise, as revealed here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgydK-gR3uU

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ASD, KAUSTAV & ARJUN: Let’s stick to factoids & existing ground realities. And what are they?

1) The protests & denunciations from India’s Muslim wellwishers have come ONLY BECAUSE what was being propagated by the BJP’s spokespersons about the Holy Prophet was FACTUALLY WRONG.

2) Those wellwishing countries in the Middle East, North Africa & Southeast Asia have not uttered a word about the India’s domestic communal convulsions & confrontational rhetoric that have been churned out both in the streets & in various TV channels since the combined Ram Navami/Eid-ul-Fitr celebrations. And they NEVER will make any comment on India’s domestic politics.

3) It has YET to be established beyond reasonable doubt whether the structure within the Gyanvapi Mosque is a Shivling or a fountain (just like the ASI has conclusively proven that the Qutub Minar was in reality a Surya Stambh for making astronomical calculations & determining the seasons). In fact, the Varanasi court has not displayed wisdom by asking for only a visual survey to be conducted. The court should have demanded that the ASI conduct a comprehensive survey, including the usage of ground-mapping radars, to establish whether the disputed structure had any direct water-source so as to act as a fountain. Had this been done, matters would have become crystal-clear last month itself.

4) That the BJP’s concerned spokespersons were ill-informed & uneducated about religiosity-related issues is now proven beyond doubt, since they fell into the trap set by the likes of AIMIM. The BJP should have exercised restraint & waited for the courts of law of issued their definitive verdicts. Instead, such spokespersons & certain BJP ministers from UP & MP have constantly stoked the fires, which in turn emboldened the spokespersons to cross the red-lines.

5) And why do such reed lines have to be adhered to? Simply because none of those spokespersons & BJP ministers from UP & MP & retards like Tejaswi Surya ever bothered about the plight of 8.7 million Indians of all religious faiths that could face possible backlashes in the Middle East, as explained here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9MzGuHEytM

6) Therefore, we can conclude that the sheer stupidity of the BJP’s apex-level party decision-makers has resulted in India’s soft power taking a tremendous hit & enormous embarrassment, especially after India’s MEA totally failed to take pro-active measures in trying to limit the damage & instead waited for 10 days before waking up.

7) Lastly, my personal view is that the likes of Nupur Sharma should undergo lessons on religiosity-related consciousness so as not to propagate falsehoods & since she has publicly tendered an unconditional apology, she should be forgiven & all cases against her should be withdrawn, since both Allah & the Holy Prophet are all-merciful & compassionate. Whether India’s Muslims who are now up in arms against Nupur Sharma will follow the Holy Prophet’s footsteps remains to be seen. The ball in now in their courts.

And now, to more serious matters:

Shershah Suri, A True Hero of India: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmjEl5cjAoY

IAF SpyDer-SR Firing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzyqRBHR8To

IA Akash-1 Firing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWTmKvTo5fI

How Did a Polish Man Change the Pakistan Air Force?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=staSd0mY13g

बागी Gen Shabeg Singh की कहानी:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfU6LCDOemM

How China Plans to Counter STARFLINK:

https://gaodawei.wordpress.com/2022/05/25/prc-defense-starlink-countermeasures/

Santosh said...

Hi with regards to MRFA, why IAF chief says that it has to be built in India under new policy, Why can't IAF be clear and proceed to buy additional 36 or 54 more rafale, why GOI is delaying the decision?

Sidharth said...

Prasun da,

Thank you for the reply on Tejas regarding the LCA Tejas concessions subject but what I am more concerned is about the timeline - By 2036 the first operational Tejas AF MK2 will be delivered and by that time IAF left with 22-26 squadrons. Do the great mind in IAF and MOD think about it and any solution? Furthermore, Tejas Mk2 is only an interim fighter.

PRC has annexed Depsang plains - so what RaGa is ranting is correct, what more on the platter.

India toe to Gulf countries and apparently all Islamic countries joined to criticize (or scoring their issue if any with) India - has 56" balloon punctured.....

Anonymous said...

Hi, Thanks for the informative articles.
1. Curious about how you see Russia responding(or unable to) now that west is sharing MLRS, anti shipping missiles, armed drones, howitzers, MBTs with Ukraine?
2. How are the sanctions holding up? Does weaponisation of the dollar benefit US in the short/medium/long run?
3.Is it really as bad a situation for Russia as the media says or how is the reality?
4. How is China learning or planning to address this in a potential conflict with Taiwan or is Taiwan not in danger of invasion in the near term?
Thanks and regards
D

Just_curious said...

Prasun, what with the German foreign minister making stmts in Pakistan abt kashmir.. is it a retort to Ram's comments? Germans first shelter khalistanis now this .. they need to be put in place

Pratap said...

I forgot to add my name in my comment about the Nupur Sharma controversy. Looking forward to your reply

Regards

From Pratap

Anonymous said...

The age of Aisha at the time of her marriage is refered as 6 and consummation at 9 yrs in al bukhari. There are however interpretations through logical cross referencing that puts her age as 19 at the time of marriage and 21 during consummation. There is no consensus in different schools of islamic jurisprudence on her age. The wahabi school of thought, reflected also in indias deobandi school strictly interprets her age as per al bukhari 6-9 yrs. While what is happening in India is unfortunate and hilarious, with this nupur sharma episode you will see more chutiyapas by indian muslim leaders, who on drop of a hat have put prize money on her head, but are still to logically counter her arguments. The more they illogically rant against her, the stronger her image will become. If she gets killed, she will be a martyr, creating in the process more people who would further quote Al Bukhari to embarrass Indian Muslims. But then thats what you call as Karma.

Also the iranian foreign minister is in India to strengthen bilateral relations, despite this episode. Self interest always triumphs.

asd said...

Dear Prasun,

We readers are really lucky to have you for bringing the truth before us. Otherwise I would have carried the same hatred for the entire Muslim community assuming that everyone is radical from that community.

rad said...

HI prasun
you did mention that an interim fighter buy would not be feasible economicaly and that other fighter projets may be axed . Now i t seems that is gouing to happen , why so . cant we pull along and expamd that the LCA line and go full hog into the AMCA by investing the same funds .
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Or is it becasue they dont see the light of the day for the SUPER su-30 upgrade due to current situation and as the russian radar uses many processors form the US?
In a way ukraine asked forit by giving top notch tech to China in every sphere as in rocket engines , missilesetc

there seems to be a an up start with turkey trying to project itself wiht byraktar drones combined wiyhth koaral ew jammers.
do we have an equal to that?

KAUSHIK said...

Hello sir,
1. https://twitter.com/DrPVVenkitakri1/status/1534769897493827584?t=Ta9knWib5Zq5m3z5mOTqUg&s=19
Can you explain this system? What is the coverage, frequency band, accuracy etc.
2. Does 160 km dual pulse astra mk2 will have AESA seeker?
3. When will Gisat be launched?
4. Recently additional orders of astra mk1 were given will these missile have indigenous seeker? How many missiles are there in the recent order?
5. When will K5 slbm be tested?
6. Will the Ssn start it's construction in 2022?

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

Any possibility that China may initiate a military conflict with India ? What do you make of this article ?

https://twitter.com/BahadurManmohan/status/1535085332903108608/photo/1

T9BK8

Sidharth said...

Prasun da,

https://idrw.org/tejas-mark-ii-second-prototype-likely-to-be-delayed-due-to-fund-crunch/

Dealy games begin......

Rajesh Mishra said...

Looking in to the today, in your revered opinion, now how far away is the Gazwatul ?? Kindly reply.

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

You have said in an earlier thread that PLAAF is only capable of deploying against India from airfields in the TAR, which can accomodate 80 fighter aircraft or so. What about Hotan in Xinjiang, which now operates 25 fighter/fighter-bombers all by itself (and is 300 km or so from Ladakh) ?


Satyaki

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SANTOSH & RAD: That’s because the IAF’s CAS is playing safe & echoing all the hogwash that routinely comes out from the ‘netas’ WRT ‘Atmanirbhar Bharat’. In reality, the IAF’s CAS has nothing to do with the origin of MRCAs & in what shape they are procured.

To SIDHARTH: Not 2036, but 2026 as projected by ADA. By 2026 the AMCA Mk.1 is expected to become available.

To D: These will explain to a certain extent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxsHaGtiDio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2N_fHKrWIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOGeAokRZNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJYk82K0wR0&t=4s

https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Russian%20Operations%20Assessments%20June%207.pdf

4) There’s no credible military threat to Taiwan as of now.

How Ukraine is using its France-supplied Caesar MGS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8AF2s6vQLg

To JUST_CURIOUS: By now the Indian MEA should have forcefully replied back that it is Pakistan that is preventing the implementation of the UNSC resolutions that call for Pakistan to get out of occupied PoJK after the implementation of the 1949 Karachi Agreement WRT ceasefire.

To KAUSHIK: 1) It is FAKE NEWS. 2) No. It is not reqd. 3) Only ISRO knows. 4) Yes. 240 units. 5) After another 4 years at best. 6) No, because the funds for hull construction have not yet been released.

To T9BK8: It is a very poorly crafted assessment & all its conclusions are hogwash.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To RAJESH MISHRA: You must be referring to these incidents:

Hyderabad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQrAEzmfypE
Prayagraj: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCiJ4na5QXQ
Delhi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D42ji_YQvuw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi0-0-82cMI
Moradabad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUYxhA_IoOg
Srinagar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-N2BiZIPIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMVsa9E-3OA
Navi Mumbai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ohzP8kan9o
Solapur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEqoD5jaLn8
Howrah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynSJM0bsbj4
Saharanpur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfluA3eLOzE
Ranchi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aB3qKyxK_Y

Regretably, those engaging in rioting & resorting to violence are refusing to walk along the footsteps of the Holy Prophet, who had totally rejected such violence. Here are 2 prime examples of self-styled Muslim leaders of India who continue to call out non-Muslims as ‘Kafirs’ & ‘Non-Believers’:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HVuznkh6g0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-6MI2HwcQs

This is self-destructive & will only cause more harm to India’s Muslim communities. The ONLY sane voice emanating yesterday was that of the Delhi Jama Masjid’s Shahi Imam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dV9i98mTCs&t=27s

To SATYAKI: Tactical combat aircraft located in PLAAF air bases in Xinjiang like Hotan, Kasghar & Golmud don’t have appreciable combat radii reqd for operating along the LAC. Only the H-6K bombers have the reqd combat radius but they are subsonic aircraft incapable of terrain avoidance flight-profiles.

Gen Charles A. Flynn, Commander, US Army Pacific:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FdsuZ621Hc

Rohit Gill said...

I don't think prophet Muhammad rejected violence against non believers the truth is he and his followers massacred non believers and forcefully converted them. For the first 10 years or so nobody accepted his teachings people accepted his teachings only after he resorted to violence against non believers. Here in my hometown in Haryana today we are at peace because we got rid of these people back in 1947 itself. Muslim's cannot justify prophet Muhammad's marriage with a 6 year old girl. Muslim's have very narcissistic view of others where they consider themselves as believers and others as non believers.

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

1. By when will the 114 Dhanush guns be delivered by OFB ? Will further orders for the Dhanush be placed ?

2. When will we see further orders for the Pinaka MBRL (so far the orders are for 6 regiments + 4 existing regiments) ? Dose'nt IA require at least 22 regiments ?

3. How many regiments of the Prahar does India deploy ?

4. Dose'nt IA require an indigenous conventional MBRL of longer range range than the Pinaka (of 300mm/380 mm caliber) ? Is DRDO in the process of developing any such ?

5. Does the ATAGS require any further trials before orders are placed ? If not, when can we expect MOD to sign a contract for the 150 ATAGS ?

6. Can we expect MIRVed Agni-5 firings within the next year? Why has this program been delayed ? Could the last Agni-5 test on Oct 27, 2021 been with such a payload ?

7. Why has the MIRVed Agni-P with limited range been prioritized over an MIRVed Agni-5 when the Agni-P is not capable of reaching China's eastern coast ?

8. Is the DRDO developing a satellite launch vehicle different from ISRO's vehicles ? Is this to separate the civilian and military space programs ? If so, around what timeframe can we expect its first launch ?

2A46M

Swarup Mukhopadhyay said...

Rohit Gill- you got part of the assessment eight. Please red through my assessment before getting agitated. Quran has two phases. The first one was the one where Muhammed tried to win followers through peace. However the second phase is where he decreed Islam has to prevail over everyone and everything be it through force or otherwise and this phase has superseded the first phase of his ministry. Thankfully not everyone ardently follows the Mecca decree. However India has been home to Muslims and many have remained some of the world's most non fundamental Muslims. It is the BJP led government which started stoking communal hatred by equating Pakistani sponsored and instigated fundamentalism and terrorism with all Muslims. Today, Hindus in India or rather a large section identifying as Hindus, have become exactly the same as fundamentalist Muslims - highly intolerant, paranoid and prepared to blame all national woes to non-Hindus. No one is denying the peaceful, loyal Muslims of India are now not under threat from fundamentalism. But this is due to Pakistani funded Mullahs propagating hate and threatening to destroy the co-existence that made India an envy of the world. So what needs to happen is a review of both sides - who is responsible for creating such division? This is 21st Century where in the West only 1% people believe in God whereas in India and the sub continent, religion still controls people. No missile or defence shield will ever protect such countries that choose to deliberately destroy its own people through calculated racial and religious bigotry. I personally believe the Muslim agitation is imposed by Pakistan and it is succeeding in fomenting internal violence to achieve its purpose. Indian netas are using this as an opportunity to blame-shift their impotence on to Muslims or Pakistan without actually doing anything. It is time to really take the war to Kashmir and make those responsible for subversion a lesson. Enough softly softly approach. This should also apply to those bastards living in the West and never intending to live in a Khalistan of their making but creating unrest. If I was the PM, I will give Sikhs for Justice justice that they deserve! Not one politician stands up internationally and points out how come military entering the Golden Temple a sacrilege and yet a thug residing in there and carrying on thuggery, violating and shaming the great Sikh Gurus and such noble faith not a sacrilege?

Technology, Photograpy and Travel said...

@swarup mukhopadyay I think you keep forgetting the transformation of indian muslims into jam was not done by BJP but ALI brothers with their khilafath movement and support this by Gandhi and Nehru , this was first transformation of then indian muslims into a mob based gangs and this is still prevalent in india , if any one is to blame its Nehru and Gandhi no one else , all the radicalisation was completed by Mamata long back you need not do it now

just_curious said...

Prasun,

1-Spontaneous rioting across india post friday prayers is too much of coincidence, clearly seems to be sponsored.. likes of Qatar, turkey and our usual suspects @play?
2- Are Mirage upgrades still ongoing considering the costs & time involved? any updates on Jags?

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

Since every one is expressing opinions, here is mine FWIW

India might have been shamed but the BJP has won here and again its an opinion and I could be wrong :

1) The Gulf doesn't care about Indian Muslims, which isn't news. They raised an issue and also commended Modi for swift action and since then moved on. No major impact on India relations. Infact India has roundly criticised the Islamic countries & OIC as being narrow minded bigots issuing a public communication. Subsequently India has threatened Qatar & other Gulf nations over food security which thanks to war in Ukraine & sanctions in Russia puts India in a control position on both wheat & rice in this zone. The potential for blackmail with food is already visible. Meanwhile, India uses this as an excuse to ramp up Russian crude oil imports while exporting refined petroleum products from Indian refinery companies as there is no traceability of crude oil origin & no sanctions as yet on India. That this is part of the hybrid war on petro-dollar which both sides could have been handled differently. This won't be good for anyone and India's opportunistic use & cooperation with Russia is evident. But money & big business trumps morality any day.

2) With the Friday mob and India's violence, many liberal hindus have also been further polarized to go for the BJP. While these riots wouldn't stop the rioters since they are a mob of thousands, governments in BJP ruled states will use this opportunity to use strong arm tactics aa seen in UP. Again this is securing votebank

3) A selected verse painted a picture of Islam to a set of larger audience and re affirmed (rightly or wrongly) acertain viewpoint of Islam. It's obvious that if rhis heads to the courts Nupur Sharma wins since these are recorded & announced by Muslim preachers too. The matter isn't even so unique since most religions have similar instances & these things happened hundreds of years ago. Nupur Sharma is obviously looking for her day in court because that's where her rehab lies. She wins in court & she is back with a LS ticket. Ditto for Jindal.

A win win for the BJP.🤔

Anonymous said...

I think you have inaccurately assessed the situation. One needs to dive a little deep in indian history and understand the cause for present day issues. It is purile to blame one party like BJP for the wrongs. The problem is much more deep rooted in indian psyche and stems from lack of determination to succeed in eradicating symptoms still bring displayed post partition in an increasingly virulent political islamisation going on.

Regards

Kunal

James said...

whats your take on this? Which fighter is likely? F16?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/iaf-plans-to-build-96-fighter-jets-in-india-under-rs-1-5-lakh-crore-for-114-combat-aircraft/articleshow/92163379.cms

SOUBHAGYA said...

Dear Prasun,

Earlier you showed many times as you told that GoI never imposes the rule of the land. Now that GoUP under Yogi Adityanath bulldozing the houses of the rioters, do you support this move? Is it correct in a democratic country like India? Is it against the law of the land or justified? Is India becoming like a majoritarian country? Please share your view upon it.

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

1) There has been news of a fourth Brahmos regiment being cleared since 2015. Has it become operational ?

2) Are there more Brahmos regiments planned to be added ? If so, have the orders necessary for these been placed ?

3) Why are there such great delays from the tie the cabinet clears acquisition of hardware till they are actually acquired ? Pakistan seems to acquire hardware very efficiently.

Satyaki

Santosh said...

Another fake news by ANI? https://idrw.org/mrfa-96-jets-to-be-made-in-india-60-jets-to-be-paid-with-indian-rupee/?

Parthasarathi said...

Prasunda,
Few years back DRDO had showpiece a direct energy based anti drone system. Why it's not produced in numbers ?
Pakistani drones are violating Indian airspace without much resistance! Dropping arms or drugs or whatever thy like and returning to base.
Is it true ? If it's true then our country is not in safe hands.
Best regards

Piyush Hundia said...

Dear Kaustav,

A win for BJP need not mean a win for India. If you think in the long term, none of the outcomes will benefit our Country.
Why?
Time and again we have seen, that domestic instability and religious based divisional narratives in the political arena doesn't help any country - yes this does help a certain sect of media / political nexus.
As a country, we must steer our conversations to real issues and not manufactured ones. I think on this forum, mainly by Prasunda and also by many others it has been amplified on what are few of the real issues.
I am an Indian and what religion my beliefs are should be in my personal space - bringing this, in public space in a multicultural society like ours, may cause dis-comfort to other fellow citizens which I try to avoid. This is what I am supposed to do as an Indian.

Best,
Piyush

just_curious said...

Prasun,
while most focus is on J&K Punjab is not very diff ---https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/localnews/sgpc-to-install-suicide-bomber-dilawar-singhs-portrait-tomorrow-at-golden-temple-museum/ar-AAYn9K2?li=AAgfYGb... how to fix punjab?

Kaustav said...

Maybe you haven't read we hat I wrote. It's in the first line

just_curious said...

prasun ,

1 will porkis be off the greylist this time?? https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/pakistan-likely-to-be-off-financial-crime-watchdog-fatfs-grey-list/ar-AAYqG0h?li=AAggbRN - what with the germans mollycoddling with them?
2 Bramhos Chief says Bramhos NG to be serially produced in next 3-5 years . are all dev tests close to completion? also mentions 1st Hypersonic missile by 2026-27
3 another new permutation being thrown around for MRFA aquisition 18 off the shelf+ 36 thru joint venture+60 made in india with @60% indigenous content .. these creative geniuses should get some awards
4 classic indian scumbags -- they want indian govt to help their kids why? so hat they can earn a degree and practice outside .. such B***ds https://idrw.org/ukraine-returned-students-reject-russias-proposal%ef%bf%bc%ef%bf%bc/
5

just_curious said...

to add ---German Ambassador to Pakistan, Bernhard Schlagheck, expressed hope of Pakistan being removed from the FATF grey list this month

Samar said...

Dear dada,

Please share your views on the "Agnipath" recruitment scheme for soldiers.

Thanks and Regards,
Samar

just_curious said...

Prasun,

any views on Minerals security partnership? why is India not in it .. seems to be a critical grouping of all US allies on rare metals..

Raghu said...

Hi

Rheinmetall's new Panther KF51 Main Battle Tank concept

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fTBA5tQsDbE

Regards

Santosh said...

Sir please answer, the minority population is increased from 3 % to 14 %,d hindus population growth is reducing. SDFI declared that India will be Islamic country by 2050, i believe them looking at population growth data, wat is ur view, ? After Libya,Iran, afganistan india will be the next in this list?adding up rohingya nd Bangladeshi, this will be add on to their objective? Please share ur view thank u

just_curious said...

Prasun,

why is germany suddenly sending large consignments of weapons to Ukraine when it was the least interested member in doing so when the war started? US pressure? EU helped trigger the Ukr war as in the long term irrespective of whoever loses , EU will need to bear the brunt of refugees & that countries depleted economy. is EU realizing that every US war has had long term post war consequences for it?be it Syria, afghanistan or Iraq

just_curious said...

what's wrong wit5h the malaysians? Matahir has created radicals for sure--http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2022/06/investigation-into-malaysian-hacking.html

just_curious said...

Prasun,

- recollecting your article & observations on eurosatory 2018 --https://idrw.org/why-europe-is-looking-at-a-130-140mm-main-gun-for-its-tanks-should-india-take-note/..

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To JUST_CURIOUS & RAGHU: EUROSATORY-2022 Show Dailies:

https://showdailies.edrmagazine.eu/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/1P-eurosatory-daily-2022-MONDAY-June-13-web.pdf

https://showdailies.edrmagazine.eu/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/2Fbis-eurosatory-daily-2022-TUESDAY-June-14-copie.pdf

https://showdailies.edrmagazine.eu/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/3G-eurosatory-daily-2022-WEDNESDAY-June-15-web.pdf

https://showdailies.edrmagazine.eu/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/4F-web-eurosatory-daily-2022-THURSDAY-June-16.pdf

https://showdailies.edrmagazine.eu/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/web-5D-eurosatory-daily-2022-FRIDAY-June-17.pdf

To SAMAR: AGNIPATH Ki AGNI PARIKSHA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1j_EMxQaBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkTOHFOME6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWVLkEBiQ8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzDvphX-qpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rugwANriZ1c

Flawed CDS Selection Rules https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOqhCjPtQTw

He is stating what I had stated months ago!

Launch of PLAN's Type-003 Aircraft Carrier Fujian:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r89lVK8TKRM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXW_9tUckxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLE5xnFkRSc

rad said...


HI Prasun
I am imoressed by the research the chinks have done to make an electromagnetic sysytem. How did they beat the US and how did they make the very high power handling electronics to drive the system.?surely they will get a boost in operational range withe the su-27 . BUt can they make the su-27 strong enought to be pulled by the EM gun?

BUt in the indian scenario i am not too worried as... if they enter the indian waters as a battle group which they will eventually do.. a salvo of brahmos and zircon can easily stop them in their tracks. Do u share my optimism.?
do u think the zircon AKA bramoss -2 will be manufactured in collaboration like the brahmos or a bought out item as it is very high tech? the front end of the zircon is wedge shaped for aerodynamic reasons. where is the place for a radar seeeker?
what is the homing system on the zircon?

will hambatonta port used in war ?. does it give a right for us to attack it ,,, it being another country?
after the agreement wiht vietnam why cant we base missiles there as they do in pakistan?

Just_curious said...

Prasun, Is the US reverting to the 80's? Sudden raking up of human rights n this..http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2022/06/will-look-at-ways-to-advance-ties-with.html?m=1... Guess not toeing their line on Russia seems to have touched a raw nerve..

rad said...


HI Prasun
Is this this report of making the mistral mpad in india credible?
we seem to be getting russsian sams as well and devolping our desi manpads as well... what is the truth?.

Ankit Kumar said...

It's just an MoU now. BDL had an MoU for Starstreak missile with MBDA too. But are we producing it.

rad said...


HI prasun
becasue china is not part of the MCTR did russia give them S-400 misisle more than 300km?

just_curious said...

Prasun,

-can you pls throw some light on-- https://idrw.org/india-just-brought-russian-sula-radar-that-can-track-space-debris/
- is this finally materializing --https://idrw.org/drdo-starts-studies-to-develop-an-airborne-electronic-attack-aea-aircraft-on-the-su-30mki-platform/-- by when can we expect dev trails?

just_curious said...

- India’s Act East policy; key pacts inked with Malaysia, Indonesia? what to expect of it? is India now a player in the south china sea? Any key outcome of indo-Asean summit?

rad said...

HI prsun
to equal chinas j-16d ew fighter can we do the same using ready available Israeli pod mounted pod mounted jammers? with aesa antennas
acouple of el 8251 and 8222wb shud do the job. of course integration and rfi problems have to be sorted out . will engines of the su-30 will have enough electric power the jammers?

James said...

National Security Advisor Ajit Doval speaks to ANI's Smita Prakash on the agnipath scheme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VdU5ENAufI

just_curious said...

prasun,

Attack on Indian Event in Maldives-- why isn't the govt screaming from the brooftop to fu***ng west and asking them questions on their hypocrisy?

Sidharth said...

Prasun da,

https://idrw.org/paf-procures-nearly-50-year-old-c-130-to-revitalize-its-transport-fleet/

Look like Pakistan is acting wisely while we don't - why can't we approach UK for their C-130H are we have too much spare money

just_curious said...

prasun,

Canadian NRIs finally waking up -- https://bakchodi.org/post/9798
About time we started to show some spine on the international stage like Jaishankar is doing. Why not more people like this?

AKS said...

Sir
Is there any credibility in this news: Pakistan may cede Gilgit Baltistan to China to pay off its mounting debts: https://www.aninews.in/news/world/asia/pakistan-may-cede-gilgit-baltistan-to-china-to-pay-off-its-mounting-debts-report20220622152854/
Pakistan has done this before by ceding Shaksgam valley to China, can be done again on any pretext!!
Are we prepared for such a disaster? Whether Russia, Europe, Brits and US will oppose this? Will they come to our rescue/ support in any manner possible? Our domestic politics never mustered to show spine in this matter, alas.
I may be assuming here, but the threat remains. Plz enlighten us!!

AKS

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Terrorism/Pakistan-holds-dead-alleged-mastermind-of-2008-Mumbai-attacks

What the British Army Can Learn From Ukrainian Soldiers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTs6GG81ak4

India’s ZEN Technologies Anti Drone System: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vca6rF_i1wg

PLAAF Anti-Drone Laser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfSz4dd-dCA

Assessing Russia’s War in Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd4xRBuVs48

War India Is Not Preparing For: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YGfipb1BdE

TATA WhAP/Kestrel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NtpFqahAV0

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

'War India Is Not Preparing For: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YGfipb1BdE'

--- Prasun Da, why do you always have to refer to this Fellow ? Everything is gushing out of him is concocted, meliaceous, I don't know why guys like him spend their valuable time is dishing out such ludicrous reasoning rather than visiting and educating themselves through your blog:

http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2020/06/how-successive-cartographic-errors-have.html

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To সুমন্ত নাগ: LoLz! Alright, here is a more sober assessment:

Intelligentization in PLA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnK_vZZzPyY

Raghu said...

Hi Prasun,

More reports coming out saying the French CAESAR howitzer and other arms supplied to Ukraine has fallen into Russian army's hands intact and have been take ln back to Russia for further study.

Could this be one of the reasons the west is reluctant to supply Ukraine with more sophisticated arms? For fear it may fall into Russians hands?

What is your take on the current situation in Ukraine? Slow grind by the looks of it and Russia seems to be gaining ground.

Regards

Raghu

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To RAGHU: The Ukrainians are outnumbered by 1:70 against Russia. This video explains it all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd4xRBuVs48

Meanwhile, more IMPORTS by India:

For Tejas Mk.1A:

https://www.safran-group.com/sites/default/files/2021-05/col100017.3.0_vs1510_a4_0.pdf

https://www.safran-group.com/sites/default/files/2021-07/Brochure%20-%20Mission%20Data%20Management.pdf

For the IAF's Mi-17s:

https://twitter.com/BEL_CorpCom/status/1540285202458562565?cxt=HHwWisCqlePOmOAqAAAA

https://defin.by/defense_initiatives_production.pdf

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

All of Sawhney, Doval, AI, Intelligentised & Information contacless warfare, Information War apart, the bottom-line is that till India has a robust Military Industrial capability, India cannot, will not & should not go to war with PRC. Russia has this, PRC built this, India hopes to build one yet - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/biden-better-buy-more-bullets

just_curious said...

Prasun ,

-how is the belarussian heli defence system diff form IDAS as saab too recently offered to co develop IDAS ver 3 in an indian entity(hal/BEL)
- Who is funding Ilan/Rashida Jihadi gang for anti india activities? Also why is india not asking the US to take action against the likes of SFJ/IAMC etc ..guess the dems as obliged as the current govt campaign was heavily funded by the islamists like qatar
- Qatar like turkey has been using anti india rhetoric for its own selfish movities. has the recent official visit to qatar quelled this nefarious agenda?

rad said...


HI Prasun i
is the data recorder so difficult to make ? is there a desi attempt ? what are the hardware an software challenges?
A defense suit from belaurus? what on earth is happening . i hear that we have a collaboration with SAAB for this?. They will promptly sell it to china and negate the advantage.

just_curious said...

Prasun,

- First AKUS now pacific group-possibly against Russia apart from China includes all major US allies in the pacific. On the other side its the middle east air defence group- aganist- Iran , QUAD on either side is already dead.. and like i always say US creates some rukus which always goes against india's interests.. add the fact that they had time to appoint an ambassador to Porkis but not for us 18 months n counting..

James said...

Whats your take on this? Espionage?

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/chance-arrest-on-bihar-nepal-border-leads-to-sprawling-illegal-club-in-delhis-outskirts/article65564159.ece

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To KAUSTAV: ONMITSU: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VbbrmAKZnA

J/FPS-5 ABM Radar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny16HrhZw5E

XF9 Turbofan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDaci39ju5s

AMIT BISWAS said...

So iaf has risen from its slumber to protect its heliborne assault missions from ground attack??

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

Aero-engines apart the stealth Integrated Mast is something, India can co-operate with Japan on. Maybe India can get it's hands on some LCS that USN seeks to dispose of & equip them or our built stealth Kamorta class / NGMVs with such integrated masts slaved to VL-SRSAMs & SR/MR AshMs

Thank you 👍 for the great shares

Soumya Ray said...

Dear Prasun
This is what Def Sec Ajay Kumar said about C-295 in a recent interview with FT:

"outer wings, center wings, box, nose fuselage, center fuselage, appendages and doors. These key components will be done in India. Besides, two testers for these parts and major sub-assemblies will be done in India. Assemblies of aerostructure, including the subassemblies will be all done in India. The various systems such as engines, landing gear, avionics, EW suite will be done in India.............96 percent of the total manhour per hour which Airbus used to employ at its manufacturing facility of Spain is planned to be undertaken here in India. The ninety six percent– is the level of indigenization. There are going to be more than 125 MSMEs suppliers who will contribute in manufacturing C-295 in India."

The no. 96 is the troubling me given these small size of order book. What do you make out of this detail?

Actual full interview:
https://www.financialexpress.com/defence/sumbarine-project-75i-moving-ahead-under-the-strategic-partnership-model-onlydefence-secretary-ajay-kumar/2571775/