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Friday, May 13, 2016

That's Airpower For You!-1

Elephant Walks in South Korea During 
EX Beverly Herd 16-01
Now, what follows below is what one does not get to see, since they are all the end-products of 
BLACK PROJECTS.
In the late 1970s, the USAF initiated the Compass Cope R & D project to develop a tactical, survivable reconnaissance UAV. The mission envisioned for the aircraft would seem familiar today, for are nearly identical to that of the Northrop Grumman-developed Global Hawk UAV, and in many ways the two aircraft are similar. Boeing beat out Teledyne Ryan for the Compass Cope contract, only to have the project terminated soon after the competition ended in 1979. Around the time that Compass Cope was cancelled, the USAF had several aerospace companies study an Advanced Remotely Piloted Vehicle (ARPV). This would a mid-sized RPV with limited stealthy features and missions, including reconnaissance, EW, and precision-strike. Soon after the contractor studies were complete, the USAF ended the project. Beginning in 1978, Northrop Grumman began to study how to apply low observables experience gained from the Have Blue (and later Tacit Blue) projects to a number of roles, ranging from cruise missile carriers to loitering reconnaissance platforms. A number of older studies of flying-wing and span-loader aircraft were dusted off and scale-models were tested on indoor ranges to determine if any aircraft configurations had any ‘natural’ stealth qualities. 
The Have Blue project had left a very bad taste in Northrop Grumman’s mouth and it had nothing new lined up to keep money coming in, and Lockheed Martin’s XST had beaten its design by a considerable margin—largely due to Lockheed Martin’s experience with materials from the Oxcart project and the ECHO 1.0 software package. Northrop Grumman had little experience with the kind of computing required to predict RCS (ironically, Northrop Grumman’s employees started most of the world’s major computer and semiconductor companies, such as IBM) so they had to make do with trial-and-error and commercial radar absorbent materials. At DARPA’s request, Northrop Grumman in 1978 began studying a stealthy radar-carrying platform under the Battlefield Surveillance Aircraft Experimental (BSAX) project. At the same time, Northrop Grumman was working on its own to develop new projects that would be of interest to the US Dept of Defense. One of these was Tacit Rainbow--a loitering anti-radiation missile. Another concept was the Tactical High Altitude Penetrator, or THAP. Northrop Grumman had been looking at flying-wing span-loader aircraft for military use with great interest in the late 1970s. Recent advances in materials and flight-control technology made an advanced span-loader more possible than ever. Missions ranging from super heavylift transports and aerial refuelling tankers to intercontinental bombers were studied. A separate group at Palos Verdes investigated the span-loader as a stealthy platform. A great deal of indoor RCS work was done on span-loader scale-models in the late 1970s. In June 1991, AW & ST reported that this was the TR-3A Black Manta—a classified tactical reconnasissance aircraft supporting the F-117A force with laser target designation and bomb damage assessment. The article also identified the TR-3A as an outgrowth of the THAP concept, but it carried not a bay full of reconnaissance gear, but rather an internal weapons bay holding a Paveway-2 laser guided bomb, which in essence made it a manned Covert Survivable In-weather Recon/Strike (CSIRS) platform. 
The TR-3A is obviously optimized for high-altitude (50,000 feet and above) loitering over denied areas--like hanging out over a ‘SAM City’. This would suggest a reconnaissance role. Precision-strike aircraft are designed to get in and out fast to minimize exposure to enemy air-defences. Reconnaissance aircraft typically go one of two ways: fast in and out, like the SR-71; or long time over target to keep an eye on movements of the target and collect more targetting data. Anything that has to hang inside hostile airspace will be designed with stealth in mind. The TR-3A was thus optimized for low-observables (using off-the-shelf technology, no less) and it cruised at the uppermost reaches of the threat envelopes of SAMs. Only a few SAM systems can reliably hit something above 50,000 feet. But even those systems are only marginally effective at that altitude. And the small amount of radar energy reaching up there does not exactly help the SAM hit its target. So the chances of bringing down a TR-3A at mission altitude are pretty slim. Reportedly in 1983, an industrial consortium of General Dynamics and McDonnell Douglas received a contract from the USAF to produce 30 airframes under the name ‘Tactical Survivable Aircraft’. There are a number of missions that can be assigned to the TR-3A in wartime. For one, it could simply be a system for attacking the same targets as an F-117A, though from high altitudes. This would be similar to a tactical version of the B-2B attacking SAM sites as they turn on, or casing down mobile targets like C4I faculties and land-mobile tactical ballistic missile/cruise missile launchers.
By the late 1980s, the Pentagon had identified the need for a stealthy multi-role combat aircraft (MRCA) that can remain aloft for long periods and loiter close to enemy territory, and then switch to a high-speed mode to rush in and deliver a surgical blow before rushing back out at supersonic speeds. These two modes of flight require drastically different wing profiles for maximum efficiency. In the mid-1990s reports began to surface concerning a new swing-wing aircraft sighted near Cannon AFB, New Mexico and at Langley AFB in Virginia. In September 1994, that aircraft—developed by Northrop Grumman and known as the Switchblade (its utility patent was filed in November 1999)—was observed circling high over Amarillo, Texas, for several minutes at midday. The aircraft was not a standard variable swing-wing aircraft, rather it was employing a unique forward sweeping-wing mechanism that enables the aircraft to become an attack aircraft capable of delivering precision-guided munitions (PGM), super-manoeuvrability (for air combat) and Mach 3 ‘dash’ capability. 
It is thus a bomber, interceptor and high-speed aircraft all-in-one. The wings are attached to the fuselage at a pivot point toward the rear of the aircraft. With its wings fully swept aft the aircraft can slow to drop PGMs or land on short runways. When the wings are swept forward 20 degrees the aircraft takes advantage of the manoeuvrability that forward-swept wings offer, thereby becoming a highly agile air combat platform. Sweep the wings fully forward and they become flush, with the aircraft with the trailing edge becoming the leading edge, forming a highly swept 75-degree stealthy delta ideal for high-speed Mach 3 exits.
Shape-shifting MRCAs that can alter their wing configurations in mid-flight (i.e. variable-wing geometry, or swing-wing) can generate greater efficiency and performance in various flight modes.  With its wings swept perpendicular to its body, the Switchblade can fly at lower speeds to drop PGMs precisely on their targets. With its wings swept farther forward, the aircraft becomes extremely manoeuvrable for aerial combat. When the wings are swept fully forward, the trailing edge of the wing becomes the leading edge, and the Switchblade can dash away at speeds up to Mach 3. 
Back in 1986, there was speculation among US military pilots and industry insiders that a new secret aircraft was being developed having the mysterious designation F-19. The rumours were partially substantiated by leaks within the aerospace industry, and a US$9.95 scale-model was produced by Testors Model Corp, which incidentally became the biggest selling plastic model kit of all time. At the very least, the USAF added to the confusion by skipping a designation between the McDonnell Douglas F/A-18 Hornet, and the Northrop F-20 Tigershark. This left a gap for an aircraft that may have held the designation F-19. It was said that the F-19 was a low-observable stealth aircraft that was being developed by Lockheed Skunk Works. However, when the F-117 Nighthawk was finally revealed to the public on November 10, 1988 rumoirs of the mysterious F-19 disappeared. It was assumed that the F-19 was in fact the F-117. Subsequent research indicated that this assumption was fundamentally incorrect, and that there really was an F-19. In 1979, a retired SR-71 pilot was flying a Learjet north of what is commonly referred to as Area 51. After breaking through a group of clouds, the pilot noticed a very strange-looking aircraft just ahead and to his lower left position (he had been shadowing the craft for approximately 10 minutes). The aircraft measured approximately 65 feet in length. It was completely black in colour, and had a flattened football or rounded-diamond shape, and appeared slightly more elongated in the front half. The X-15-like cockpit was a fully enclosed blister that tapered back towards the aft end of the craft. There were two forward-facing triangular windows on either side of a wedge shaped splitter pillar. 
The internally-mounted engines were fed by two NACA air-intake ducts slightly aft and to either side of the cockpit. There were also two additional air-intakes on the lower surface of the aircraft. The craft featured what looked like trapezoidal shaped or trap-door exhaust ports near the aft end. There were control surfaces on the leading and trailing edges. The most unique feature however, was a very unusual dorsal and ventral tail arrangement. The vertical stabiliser looked very similar in appearance to that of the old B-17 Flying Fortress, but with an identical stabiliser on the bottom. The lower ventral fin retracted sideways and up, to allow clearance for landing. This particular craft had afterburner capability.
All of the evidence indicates that this was a twin-engined hybrid propulsion design aircraft. It would appear that this particular aircraft, built in 1976, was a proof-of-concept (first generation) design for what was to be commonly referred to as the Aurora. The pilot was quite startled after seeing this aircraft, and contacted air traffic control (ATC) at Nellis AFB to ask: “why did you not advise me of the other traffic in my vicinity?” At this point, there was a short pause, and then ATC responded by saying: “because there is no traffic in your vicinity, Sir.” Next, the Learjet pilot responded by saying: “the hell there isn't! I’ve got an all-black, diamond-shaped, no wings, single-seat, twin-engined aircraft with ventral and dorsal vertical stabilisers, flying 100 feet out in my 11 o’clock position right now! I’m looking out my windscreen at it as we speak.” After a pause of 10 seconds or so, the Learjet pilot saw the pilot of this other aircraft look out of his right windscreen, register an expression of extreme surprise, then abruptly bank away while simultaneously lighting up the afterburners, and disappearing into a cloud bank. After a pause of 20 seconds or so, a different voice came over the radio, (a much harsher sounding voice) which directed the Learjet pilot to vector south where he would be landing at Nellis AFB. The pilot complied, and was told to taxi to the end of the runway, shut down his engines, and to not depart his aircraft. At this point, the pilot was met by USAF security personnel, and was interrogated for the next 18 hours about his encounter with the mysterious ‘black jet’.
In 1974, the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) initiated a programme known as Project Harvey (named after the 6 feet 3 1/2 inches tall invisible white rabbit from the play of the same name). The ultimate goal was to develop a combat aircraft with as low a RCS as possible. Five aerospace OEMs were contracted US$1 million each to give it their best shot. Surprisingly, Lockheed Martin wasn’t among them. It was only an accidental tip-off that allowed Lockheed Martin’s Ben Rich to lobby for inclusion. Rich had been an engineer on the secret U-2 and SR-71 reconnaissance aircraft R & D projects and had by then advanced to become Lockheed Martin’s successor to the famous Lawrence Kelly Johnson as Director of the Skunk Works. The ‘Skunk Works’ is the official alias for the Advanced Developmental Projects Division that is responsible for all of Lockheed Martin’s highly secret advanced development projects. It was formed in 1943 to build the US’ first turbojet-powered combat aircraft, the P-80, and numerous other projects that belong to the shadowy world of military operations.
By the time Rich had gotten wind of Project Harvey, there was no money left for another developmental contract. So Lockheed Martin was offered a shot-for-a-dollar. But Rich wanted in and wisely turned down the token dollar. He knew that any new technologies developed with company funds would then be proprietary. Lockheed Martin was famous for building small fleets of extremely advanced aircraft-often used for highly secretive missions. During World War-2, it had built the P-80. Subsequently, Lockheed Martin skipped the Mach-1 era altogether and jumped right to fielding the first US-origin combat aircraft capable of speeds in excess of Mach 2, the F-104 Star Fighter. Along the way came the high-flying U-2, the higher-flying SR-71, the hypersonic D-21 drone (which would ride piggyback on an SR-71 until released), and other things not yet named. In Rich’s own words, the unsung hero of Lockheed Martin’s effort was an anonymous staff mathematician and electrical engineer named Denys Overholser. Overholser and his mentor, another mathematician named Bill Schroeder, had discussed the possibilities of utilising some of the equations associated with optical scattering (how electromagnetic waves bounce off variously shaped objects) on this project. Both had the rather odd hobby of reading obscure USSR-origin mathematics papers and had made the ultimate ‘nerd's nerd’ discovery. They had stumbled across a paper published in Moscow a decade earlier titled ‘Method of Edge Waves in the Physical Theory of Diffraction’. It had been written by Pyotr Ufimtsev, the Soviet Union’s chief scientist at the Moscow Institute of Radio Engineering and the last in a long line of scientists developing a long series of wave-equations originally derived centuries ago by the Scottish physicist James Clerk Maxwell.
The US intelligence community had helped translate this research paper and brought it to the West. The paper was in no way classified or related to weapons development at all. It was purely theoretical math. Years later, Ufimtsev immigrated to the US to teach at the University of California, Los Angeles, and only then discovered his inadvertent contribution to the development of stealthy aircraft. The equations that Ufimtsev had developed made the reflections of radio waves off hard surfaces predictable. Not invisible, transparent, or tactical in any way-just predictable. The problem for Lockheed Martin was that the calculations were so ferociously difficult that the most advanced supercomputers in the world at that time could only compute results for flat surfaces. Any attempt to perform the calculations for the curved surfaces you would find on a conventional aircraft--well, those machines would still be grinding away toward a solution today. Schroeder recognised how these equations could be applied to Lockheed Martin’s current project. The solution was not even to attempt to design an aircraft with any curved surfaces, but to build one with dozens, or perhaps hundreds, of individual flat triangular and rectangular plates. Then the challenge was to compute the reflection from each and every flat surface before adding them all together to build a picture of the aircraft’s total radar signature. Once you knew where every bit of radar reflection was coming from, you could then reorient those individual plates so that the reflection would go off in a direction away from the radar looking at it. This process became known as ‘faceting’. And that became the real secret--not to absorb all the RF emissions or make the aircraft somehow transparent, but to make the aircraft’s signature predictable. That predictability could then be used to shape a tactically useful aircraft. The aircraft would also be covered in thin sheets of radar-absorbing materials (RAM), but the bulk of the stealth effect was achieved by its shape.
Traditionally, a single engineering specialty will take the lead during the design of a new aircraft. An aerodynamicist may be in charge of pushing through a new wing or fuselage shape, as happened with the early delta wings and area-ruled fuselages of the ‘Century Series’ of interceptors. Sometimes it may be the powerplant guy: “Here’s the engine we’re going to use, build us an aircraft for it.” This is how the P-80 came about. Occasionally it may be the armaments people-- the A-10 Warthog is fundamentally a massive 30mm Gatling cannon with an aircraft  built around it. In this particular case, this was the first time the lead was owned by an electrical engineer. The computing programme designed by Overholser’s team to make these calculations was called Echo- 1. Armed with that tool, the first test subject, the Hopeless Diamond, was built. It was described as a diamond for obvious reasons and ‘hopeless’ for its aerodynamic qualities (or rather, its complete lack thereof). Early radar testing of the Hopeless Diamond turned out to be staggeringly successful. The White Sands experimental radar range near Holloman AFB was used. 
When the radar was fired-up for the initial testing, the only thing that showed up was the reflection of the pole on which the full-scale test-model was supposed to be mounted. Assuming that the model had fallen off the pole, the radar operators sent technicians downrange to fix the problem. To their surprise, the ten-foot model was still in place. To test the model at all, Lockheed Martin then had to design an invisible ‘stealthy pole’ to mount the model utilising the same technology as the proposed combat aircraft. The results were once again astounding, and incredulous USAF officials were called in to witness and verify the data. The first opportunity to impress these officials almost resulted in embarrassment. When the radars were turned on, the reflections, while still very small by aircraft standards, were orders of magnitude larger than what the USAF officials had been led to expect. They could still clearly see a small radar return from where the model was mounted. 
While the Lockheed Martin engineers were trying to explain this discrepancy, a radio call came in from a technician downrange. He reported that a bird was perched on the ten-foot model. The quick reply was an order to blow the horn of the pickup truck the guy was sitting in. As the startled bird flew away, the radar reflection on the test scope disappeared. The very idea that a combat aircraft could be made so invisible as to hide behind a bird was an opportunity that couldn’t be passed up. Everything associated with the programme became classified at the highest levels. The programme was consequently transferred from DARPA to the USAF’s Special Projects Office. The word ‘stealth’ was forbidden to be mentioned in any unclassified document. And in April 1976, the Ford Administration gave Lockheed Martin the go-ahead for a full-scale aircraft. The Skunk Works was officially in the stealthly, low-observable flying platform business.
In 1974, when DARPA was becoming more and more interested in the idea that an aircraft, or a remotely-piloted vehicle, could be almost totally invisible to hostile RF-based sensors, the consequent competition led to the emergence of the Lockheed Martin-developed F-117 Nighthawk. But this is the story about the loser. After fielding some secondary studies regarding the possibility of a combat aircraft that could pass completely unseen by enemy radars, the XST (eXperimental Survivable Tactical) project was formally launched and DARPA went searching for OEMs to pursue the project’s goals. What DARPA was looking for in particular from the initial phase of the project was to answer two primary questions: 1) What were the signature limits that an aircraft would have to meet to be undetectable at an operational range from enemy sensors? 2) What could each aerospace OEM bring to the table when it came to designing and building an aircraft with the signature-levels established in question one?
Five major aerospace OEMs were approached to take part in the competition to build a scale-model concept that would demonstrate a substantial reduction in radar cross-section for a manned tactical air vehicle. Originally, Lockheed Martin was not even one of these companies. Word got around that the shadowy project was in the launch phase, and legendary Lockheed Skunk Works engineer Ben Rich went and persuaded the powers-that-be at the Pentagon to give him and his Skunk Works team a shot. He wanted in so badly that and he proposed competing for free, while all the other competitors would receive a paying contract for their R & D work. Nowadays, it is almost unbelievable to think that Lockheed Martin was not even on the US Department of Defense’s (DoD) list for the XST competition, but then again, the mid-1970s were a low time for Lockheed Martin. Having not produced a combat aircraft for more than a decade, their commercial aircraft division was also in deep public turmoil. The company was facing a possible fire-sale, after which its bones would be picked apart piece by piece. Still, what many in the DoD did not know was that the Skunk Works built the first stealthy aircraft, the A-12 Oxcart and SR-71 Blackbirds, although its low-observable features were still highly classified at that time. After starting with a half dozen competitors, the XST competition was narrowed down to consist of the aforementioned Lockheed Martin Skunk Works team, a Northrop Grumman team and a McDonnell Douglas team that would later also drop out of the competition. Skunk Works, being accustomed to working on highly classified projects, had every element of the XST team working together openly. Powerplant, flight controls, low-observables, aerodynamics and so on, were all at the same collaborative design table. Northrop Grumman , on the other hand, had built an almost firewall-like divide between the highly classified low-observable folks and the less sensitive aircraft systems and design folks. This mistake would result in a very inefficient design process that would cost them later on in the competition, and would once again uphold the management structure of Kelly Johnson as superior to all others in the classified aircraft development business.
As noted above, Team Skunk Works used a fairly obscure research paper from a Soviet scientist named Pyotr Ufimtsev to build a then cutting-edge computer programme called ‘ECHO-1’ that could predict effects of radar waves on an object. This resulted in the famed ‘Hopeless Diamond’ design, which was shaped like a rough-cut gem, and was fully faceted to reflect radar waves away from the transmitter/receiver from almost every direction with great efficiency. When it came to its radar signature, the ephemeral ‘Hopeless Diamond’ was downright exciting. But when it came to its aerodynamics, it was a messy conundrum to say the least. Which was something that Kelly Johnson, Ben Rich’s boss, was not too excited about. Meanwhile, the Northrop Grumman team had been working closely with Hughes Radar Systems Group since early on for its XST contender. Hughes, the gold standard purveyor of US-origin military sensors at the time, gave Northrop Grumman a deep theoretical understanding of how radars and infra-red sensors detect targets, and what shapes were hard to detect under various conditions. With this in mind, and without Lockheed’s novel ECHO-1 computer-based radar cross-section modelling programme, Northrop Grumman’s design moved forward, albeit clumsily. The aforementioned intense compartmentalization at Northrop Grumman, between the highly classified low-observables team, the aircraft systems team, and the airframe design team, was proving to be almost impossible to work through. Some individuals who were active in Northrop Grumman’s XST R & D effort at the time have since described this unsatisfactory arrangement as like trying to build the most advanced aircraft design in the world via playing a game of telephone. Nonetheless, leveraging their work with Hughes, the team began experimenting with different shapes and configurations, and in a learn-as-you-go creative process, a design began to materialise. DARPA, by this time having realised the promise of low-observables technology, had upgraded the project from a theoretical design study to one that would provide a flyable prototype. With this in mind, the name of the project changed to eXperimental Survivable Testbed. A winner-take-all “pole off” showdown, in which scale-models of both manufacturers unique designs would be evaluated mounted on a pole at a radar cross-section measurement range, was set for the summer of 1975. Only the winner would get the chance to see their exotic design take flight as a real-life technology demonstrator. Lockheed Martin’s ‘Hopeless Diamond’ was tweaked a bit to better resemble a plausible aircraft. The whole design was still made up of a series of flat panels, or diamond-like facets, but its rear trailing edge would be notched in instead of shaped like one-half of a diamond. It would also feature more highly swept wings, its inlets would be mounted behind both sides of the cockpit and the aircraft’s exhaust would exit through slits in the upper rear trailing edge of the fuselage to mask its infra-red signature. Northrop Grumman’s design looked more like a plausible flying machine, with the cockpit set far forward and a large air inlet, covered by a fine mesh grill, was set high atop the fuselage. It did not feature a complex array of facets like Lockheed Martin’s entry, rather it used smooth, broad surfaces and finely rounded edges to reflect radar energy, as well as a diamond-delta like wing platform. The aircraft’s exhausts were mounted deeply inward of the trailing edge, shrouded between the inward canted vertical tails. Both designs were very impressive, to say the least, having achieved massive reductions in overall RCS returns as well as dampening their theoretical infra-red signature to a large degree. Northrop Grumman, not having the luxury of Lockheed Martin’s ECHO-1 programme, and being handicapped by a fragmented design team, concentrated on making the aircraft as invisible as possible from its front and rear quadrants. Their thinking was that the most risk for a penetrating attack aircraft is posed when it is approaching and leaving the target area, so this is where their signature reduction goals were focussed. The Northrop Grumman team accomplished this goal very well, but when the aircraft design was viewed by radar from the side hemisphere, the aircraft’s RCS return spiked higher than Skunk Works’ Hopeless Diamond-based competitor. The Northrop Grumman XST’s less competitive side-on radar signature seemed to be more of a result of the stiff compartmentalisation within the Northrop Grumman design team than just the design philosophy alone, and it is possible that with some tweaks the Northrop Grumman XST offer would have featured a lower overall RCS than the Lockheed Martin contender. Northrop Grumman’s XST design was also already optimised to have a lower RCS over a broader range of radar frequencies. Additionally, the argument was made that Northrop Grumman’s design would have provided better aerodynamic performance and airframe adaptability, as well as lower overall production risk than Lockheed Martin’s wildly faceted design. In other words, there have been multiple voices, not just from within the Northrop Grumman camp, that think that the Northrop Grumman XST would have been a better choice than Lockheed Martin’s design, especially considering how immature the designs, and their team’s accompanying low-observable knowledge bases really were at the time. Still, regardless of these opinions, Lockheed Martin’s design best met the particular design goals laid out by the Pentagon, as such, there was no denying Lockheed Martin won the pole off. Interestingly, years after the XST competition concluded, Northrop Grumman’s non-faceted design philosophy seems much more ahead of its time than Lockheed Martin’s faceted approach, especially when you consider that second- and third-generation stealthy aircraft and unmanned systems have much more in common with Northrop Grumman’s XST design than Lockheed Martin’s XST design.
Still, both teams had solid manufacturing capabilities, competitive cost estimates, and aggressive timelines, so all things being fairly equal, Northrop Grumman’s slightly less stealthy pole model gave DARPA something to hang their final decision on, and the Skunk Works design was chosen for flight testing. This action would result in the ‘Have Blue’ technology demonstrators, then the ‘Senior Trend’ project, which resulted in the YF-117 and eventually the famous F-117 Nighthawk as we know it today. The loss from the XST competition did not mean the end for Northrop Grumman when it comes to low-observable aircraft. Quite the contrary, in fact. The team regrouped and learned from its mistakes over the next few years, and eventually fielded the absolutely game-changing platform known as the Battlefield Surveillance Aircraft Experimental, otherwise known as the ‘Tacit Blue’ technology demonstrator. This aircraft, aptly nicknamed ‘The Whale’, paved the way for Northrop Grumman to win the contract for developing the B-2 Spirit bomber, build the YF-23 Advanced Tactical Fighter contender, and even the Global Hawk and X-47B unmanned aircraft testbeds as we know them today. Strangely, the Tacit Blue concept would also indirectly lead to the Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel, and the General Atomics Avenger UAV. In fact, the rumoured Northrop Grumman RQ-180 is supposedly the final implementation of the concept that ‘Tacit Blue’ proved more than 30 years ago. Seeing how close the XST decision was, and taking into account just how handicapped Northrop Grumman was by having two compartmentalised teams working on one integrated aircraft, as well as not having the help of the groundbreaking ECHO-1 computer modelling programme, one has to wonder just how successful its stealthy aircraft could have been with more time to mature. 
In November 2013, Lockheed Martin announced that it, along with Aerojet Rocket­dyne, was developing the SR-72 reconnaissance aircraft that will be able to accelerate up to Mach 6, or 4,567mph (7,349kph) when powered by a twin turbofan-/dual ramjet based combined-cycle propulsion system. Lockheed Martin describes the SR-72—to be available by 2030—as being an intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance, and strike platform, but its exact mission tasking/payload remains a secret. 
Ramjets forgo the big rotary compressors needed on turbofans and instead rely on their own forward motion to compress air. First, air is scooped into an inlet and compressed as it funnels into a diffuser. The diffuser also slows the air to subsonic speeds for easier combustion. From there, air and fuel are fed into a combustion chamber and ignited. Finally, an exhaust nozzle accelerates the resulting burst of hot, expanding air, producing massive thrust. Turbofans can take an aircraft from runway launch to about Mach 3; speeds faster than that require an air-breathing ramjet, which compresses high-speed air for combustion, but which typically begins operating at about Mach 4. To bridge the gap, engineers of Aerojet Rocket­dyne are developing a hybrid engine that can operate in three modes. The aircraft will accelerate to about Mach 3 under turbofan power, then switch to ramjet power to take it to about Mach 5, and then switch again to scramjet mode, which uses supersonic air for combustion. Aerodynamic friction at speeds exceeding Mach 5 will heat an aircraft’s exterior to 2,000 degrees Celsius. At that point, conventional steel airframes will melt. Hence, Lockheed Martin’s engineers are looking at composites—the same kinds of high-performance carbon, ceramic, and metal mixes used for the nosecones of ICBMs, SLBMs and space shuttles. Every joint and seam of the airframe must be sealed. Any air-leak at hypersonic speed, and the in-rushing heat would cause the aircraft to collapse. (That’s what had doomed the space shuttle Columbia). The stresses on an aircraft shift as it travels through subsonic, supersonic, and hyper­sonic speeds. For instance, when an aircraft is accelerating through subsonic flight, the centre-of-lift moves toward the back of the aircraft. But once the aircraft hits hypersonic speeds, drag on the aircraft’s leading egdes cause the centre-of-lift to move forward again. If the centre-of-lift gets too close to the centre-of-gravity it can cause dangerous instability. The SR-72’s shape must tolerate these changes, and more, to keep the aircraft from tearing apart. 
However, what remains unanswered till this day is why would Lockheed Martin’s Skunk Works and Aerojet Rocket­dyne spend exorbitant amounts of R & D funds on the SR-72 when they have already developed hypersonic aircraft like the SR-75 Penetrator, which uses pulse detonation wave engines (PDWE) and an aero-thermodynamic airframe design. On a hypersonic vehicle, thermal management is very critical, the cooling capacity of the fuel must be used carefully and efficiently, or else the range and endurance of the aircraft will be limited by heating rather than the actual fuel tank capacity. So how does the SR-75 reach such hypersonic speeds? Choosing the right type of fuel is crucial to the success of the SR-75. Because various sections of the craft will reach cruising-speed temperatures, its fuel must both provide energy for the PDWE engines and also act as a structural coolant extracting destructive heat from the airframe’s surface. At hypersonic speeds, even exotic kerosene such as the special high-flashpoint JP-7 fuel used by the SR-71 Blackbird can’t absorb enough heat. The only plausible solution therefore is cryogenic fuel. The best possibilities are methane and hydrogen. Liquid hydrogen provides more than three times as much energy and absorbs six times more heat per pound than any other fuel. The downfall is its low density, which means larger fuel tanks, a larger airframe and more drag. 
While liquid hydrogen is the fuel of choice for space launch vehicles that accelerate quickly out of the atmosphere, studies have shown that liquid methane is better for an aircraft cruising at Mach 5 to Mach 7. Methane is widely available, provides more energy than jet-fuels, and can absorb five times as much heat as kerosene. Compared with liquid hydrogen, it is also three times denser and easier to handle. So, at regular speeds, the SR-75 is powered by traditional turbofans built into the lower fuselage. Once it hits supersonic speed, the PDWE takes over. A PDWE works by sending liquid methane or liquid hydrogen into the engine. The fuel mist is then ignited. This detonation is made inside a specially designed chamber and occurs when the aircraft is travelling at supersonic speeds. At such speeds, a ‘thrust wall’ is created. This is when the aircraft is travelling so fast, air is pushed near the nose that creates a ‘wall’. When the detonation occurs, the aircraft’s thrust-wall is pushed forward, and this is repeated numerous times to propel the aircraft forward. The consequent jet stream looks like ‘donuts-on-a-rope’.
There is also work now underway in the US, France and Japan to develop pulse detonation turbines for higher efficiency power generation. Pratt & Whitney is developing a new combustor for turbofans that uses shockwaves for more efficient combustion through a process known as continuous detonation. GE Aero Engines has also been working on pulse detonation. When fitted to a conventional turbofan, CDWE technology offers to transform overall engine performance and simplify its design by using detonation waves to combust the fuel and oxidizer mixture. Theoretically, this system can operate from subsonic up to a hypersonic flight-speeds of roughly Mach 5, with higher efficiency than existing turbofans. This is because a detonation-wave rapidly compresses the mixture and adds heat at constant volume, thereby providing a thermal efficiency improvement of approximately 25%.
The SR-75’s airframe may well incorporate stealth technology, but it does not really require it should its mission simply involve high-altitude reconnaissance. Hypersonic aircraft are much harder to shoot down than a ballistic missile. Although a hypersonic aircraft isn’t very manoeuvrable, its velocity is such that even a small turn puts it miles away from a SAM’s projected (via the proportional navigation technique) interception point. 
The UK’s Ministry of Defence would have you believe that nothing untoward occurred at Boscombe Down, Wiltshire, on the night of September 26, 1994. But something sinister did happen at the airfield that night. The fact that the incident involved the US’ most highly-classified black project aircraft helps to explain the scale (and to some extent the subtlety) of the disinformation campaign which ensured. The story had begun to unfold on that windswept night as the aircraft began its takeoff run along Runway 23. Whatever happened in the few seconds following application of takeoff power was sufficiently catastrophic for the two-man USAF aircrew to abort departure immediately. Military controllers at the London Air Traffic Control Centre (LATCC) were alerted either directly or indirectly to the fact that a serious incident had occurred, and that the runway was blocked. Later that night, the stranded aircraft was seen by at least one witness near the eastern end of Boscombe Down’s Runway 23. A tarpaulin-covered frame had already been erected above the aircraft’s forward section, around which were a number of emergency-response vehicles. The rear section appeared unnaturally elevated by virtue of an apparent nose-wheel collapse, the only clearly definable characteristic being inward canting twin fins. Early the next day, one of four British Army Air Corps Agusta A-109 helicopters transited to Boscombe Down from Bournemouth-Hurn. All four A-109s were then exclusively operated by the Special Air Service (SAS), which has a base at Poole, near Hurn. Is it possible that a covert sealing-off operation was set in motion? It has also been suggested that at least one RAF Chinook was scrambled from Odiham to Boscombe Down late that night for just that purpose. The sighting was followed that same evening by a separate sighting of a grey USAF C-5 Galaxy on the ground at Boscombe Down. The aircraft had been monitored on airband radio as it cancelled its flight-plan to the USAF European HQ at Ramstein in Germany, and requested a diversion to Boscombe Down. On arrival, the C-5 parked on the ramp outside the DRA/DTEO hangar. It is likely that the incident aircraft was normally housed in one of Boscombe’s hardened air shelters (HAS). However, in the aftermath of the incident the first priority would have been to move the aircraft under cover to a place where the C-5 could undertake a loading or unloading procedure with minimum risk. With the taxiways leading to the shelters unable to accommodate an aircraft as large as the C-5, the most logical option would indeed have been to move the aircraft to the DRA/DTEO hangar. Despite these precautions, an unidentifiable tarpaulin-covered object was seen to be loaded into the C-5. This flight-plan (evidence of which has since disappeared) used a non-standard callsign of Lanc 18, but more noteworthy was its destination which was listed as KPMD. This is the ICAO airfield designator for Palmdale, California, better known as Air Force Plant 42 and home to the assembly lines of both the Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman Electronic Systems and Integration Division. The Boscombe Down incident aircraft is designated as the ASTRA, was originally referred to as AV-6 (Air Vehicle Six, its construction number), and was allocated USAF serial 90-2414. It routinely used frequencies in the 500 to 510 mHz range (highly unusual and beyond the tuning range of standard UHF scanner radios) and was operating with the callsign Blackbuck 11. It had been operating in tandem with at least one other aircraft. ASTRA is an acronym standing for Advanced Stealth Technology Reconnaissance Aircraft. The prime contractor was Northrop, with McDonnell Douglas (MDC) involvement, and the aircraft is directly related to the YF-23 (unsuccessful ATF contender). No doubt most controversial of all, the ASTRA is believed to be the Mach 5+ hypersonic tactical reconnaissance aircraft, most commonly referred to until now as Aurora. This, along with its YF-23 lineage, will be a major surprise to those who either denied the existence of a manned hypersonic project, or assumed it to be a product of Lockheed Skunk Works. Lockheed Martin has consistently denied involvement in a hypersonic project but in June 1991, Northrop Grumman had quietly set up its own version of the ‘Skunk Works’, called the Advanced Technology and Design Center, to pursue what it acknowledged to be both manned and unmanned ‘black project’ developments. It also began testing a distributed-exhaust/pressurised wing concept. The technology was said to be related to at least one US Dept of Defense ‘black aircraft’ project. It may be that the ASTRA is actually the project involved (rather than a special forces transport type as suggested), given that the concept involves using bleed-air from the engines and pumping it through the wings’ upper surfaces, and given that the YF-23 had bleed-air doors in the wing upper surface near the leading-edge wing-root, the purpose of which was claimed to be suction removal of the boundary layer from the underwing air intake.
The first evidence of flights by hypersonic vehicles emerged in 1989, with eyewitness reports of the characteristic ‘doughnuts on a rope’ contrails produced by the pulsing motion of a PDWE, which detonated the fuel in the jetpipe and expelled some of the gases created through inlets at the forward end of the pipe. At this early stage in flight-testing there were probably no more than two prototypes in the programme, with 1987 fiscal serials corresponding to the original project go-ahead. In February 1985 (just after Tacit Blue was grounded), there was an inadvertent leak in the US federal budget regarding Aurora funding, which showed US$80 million being requested for FY 1986, rising to a massive US$2.2 billion in 1987, the same year in which the YF-23 prototypes were funded. If the ASTRA was nested in Aurora, or indeed came to be the new name used when Aurora’s cover had been blown, then the funding request is consistent with the funding of one or two prototypes in 1987, which would not have been completed and flown until 1989. The greater proportion of hypersonic aircraft activity took place after February 1992, with night sightings of unusual activity at Beale AFB, and loud anomalous noises described as similar to sustained artillery firing, likely to have been caused by ground runnings of the PDWE. The aircraft were only present at Beale AFB for a matter of months, probably for pre-operational familiarisation. In addition, it is known that a security policeman at Beale AFB reported seeing a YF-23-like aircraft hangared there (in one of the SR-71 sheds) in nearly 1992. There was apparently little attempt to disguise the aircraft's presence, because it was surrounded by personnel wearing blue MDC overalls. The YF-23 prototypes themselves had ceased flying in late December 1990, pending the ATF contract award in April 1991.
In August 1989, Chris Gibson, a Scottish oil-exploration engineer and, at the time, a member of the British Royal Observer Corps (ROC), was working on the oil rig Galveston Key in the North Sea when he noticed an aircraft in the shape of a pure isoceles triangle refuelling from a USAF KC-135 Stratotanker alongside two USAF F-111s. The unknown aircraft, cruising in a formation northward through Air-to-Air Refuelling Area (AARA) 6A, is what people have come to believe, was the mysterious AV-6 Astra, which used to use the RAF airbase at Machrihanish, Strathclyde—with its three-mile-long runway—as a staging post for Mach 4, 200,000 feet-high dashes home across the North Sea. The aircraft has also been spotted across the US, in Norway and the Netherlands, often to the accompaniment of a deafening sonic boom and its characteristic ‘donuts-on-a-string’ contrail. Below, Chris Gibson explains precisely what happened, as well as giving an insight into himself.
“I welcome any questions on my North Sea sighting, as I am of the opinion that too much is taken at face value in the black aircraft snark hunt. I think that the snark hunt has degenerated into an exercise in regurgitating the same old stories with little or no new research being done. A bit about me. I work as a drilling technologist for a major oil field service company. I hold an Honours degree in geology, with some engineering, geophysics and chemistry thrown in. I also did a post graduate course in systems analysis, I was a member of the ROC for 13 years and was a member of the ROC’s aicraft recognition team for 12 of those years. In this field I was considered to be an expert and produced an aircraft recognition manual for the ROC. Some will obviously know the sighting story, but I will fill you in on what happened from my point of view. I was working in the indefatigable field on the jack-up rig ‘Galvestion Key’ in August 1989. My colleague, Graeme Winton, went out on deck but returned immediately. He told me to “have a look at this.” We went outside and Graeme pointed skywards. I had been at university with Graeme and he knew of my interest in aircraft. As far as Graeme was concerned it was a formation of aircraft and he reckoned I’d be interested. I looked up, saw the tanker and the F-111s, but was amazed to see the triangle. I am trained in instant recognition, but this triangle had me stopped dead. My first thought was that it was another F-111, but there was no gaps, it was too long and it didn’t look like one. My next thought was that it was an F-117, as the highly swept planform of the F-117 had just been made public. Again the triangle was too long and had no gaps. After considering and rejecting a Mirage IV, I was totally out of ideas. Here was an aircraft, flying over head, not too high and not particularly fast. A recognition gift and I was clueless. This was a new experience. Graeme asked me what was going on. I watched as the formation flew overhead and told him that the big one was a KC-135 Stratotanker, the two on the left were F-111s and that I didn’t know what the fourth aircraft was. Graeme said “I thought you were an expert?” I said “I am.” To which Graeme replied “Some expert.” It was obvious to me that this aircraft was something ‘dodgy’. I watched the formation for a minute or two and went back inside with Graeme. At the time I was writing the aircraft recognition manual and had a Danish Luftmelderkorpset Flykendingsbog in my briefcase. This is probably the best aircraft recognition book ever produced. I looked through it, but nothing matched. I then sketched what I had seen and sent this to Peter Edwards, who was a Group Officer in the ROC and was also on the recognition team. We discussed what to do about it but decided that if it was reported through official channels, it would be at best rubbished, at worst lead to trouble. Having signed the Official Secrets Act I didn’t want to jeopardise my position in the recognition team, so I kept my mouth shut. I told other members of the recognition team in the hope that they could shed some light on the subject. On returning home I had a look through my book collection. The only aircraft which came close to matching what I had seen was a Handley Page HP-115. It was not one of them. Whether this aircraft was a Aurora is debatable—my background precludes jumping to conclusions based on a single piece of evidence. I wrote to Bill Sweetman (Stealth expert) after being sent an illustration from Janes Defense Weekly, which matched what I had seen.” 
In an article titled: ‘Sightings and Engineers’ Dreams Taking to Skies as Black Aircraft’, written by Bill Scott, and published in Aviation Week & Space Technology on December 24, 1990, on page 42, paragraph 2 speaks of “well choreographed show-and-tell sessions given to selected members of the US Congress and key government officials”. At one such ‘dog and pony’ show held at Norton AFB on November 12, 1988, the second-generation ‘Aurora’ aircraft was put on display. This exhibit of various classified aircraft was arranged to garner further financial backing for special access or ‘black’ programmes. The second-generation Aurora looked very similar in appearance to the F-19, with the exception of the pilot and tail assembly. It also featured eight air-intakes instead of the four used on the manned F-19 version. A clear lineage of this specific aircraft type can now be identified.
Regarding the propulsion system used on the aircraft shown at Norton AFB, it featured hundreds of tiny fuel ejector holes located just aft of a ridge that ran laterally across the widest part of the aircraft. Looking from the side, it resembled a flattened football shape with a distinctive raised ridge or high-point that tapered back to the aft end. As for the external appearance, it looked like the entire aircraft was composed of black space shuttle heat-resistant tiles, which showed signs of scorched heat thermal erosion, due to the exotic propulsion system. The concept being, conventional turbofans would propel the craft to approximately Mach 3. At this point, the eight NACA ducts would close, providing for a smooth aerodynamic surface. Next, the craft would switch propulsion systems by turning off the turbofanss, and begin spraying a highly modified slush hydrogen fuel directly at the raised portion of the craft. By now, the craft, travelling in excess of Mach 3, would begin to glow in a very dull red colour at the leading edges and mid-section. Airflow over the vehicle at supersonic speeds caused a ‘wake separation’ to occur at the slight lateral ridge, and fuel injected into this superheated, highly compressed air-stream spontaneously combusted, expanding between the tapered ‘after-body’ of the craft, and the supersonic shock wave which separated at the ridge.
The TR-3B triangle-shaped nuclear-powered aerospace platform, built in the mid-1980s by Lockheed Martin and Teledyne Ryan, was developed under the Aurora programme—a top-secret, multi-tier developmental roadmap for advanced aerospace vehicles. The TR-3B’s outer coating is reactive to electrical stimulation and can change colour, reflectiveness, and radar absorptiveness. This is also the first US vehicle to use quasi-crystals in the vehicle’s skin. This polymer skin, when used in conjunction with the TR-3B’s ECM suite, can make the vehicle look like a small aircraft or a flying cylinder or even tricking radars into falsely detecting a variety of aircraft, no aircraft, or several aircraft at various locations. A circular, mercury-based plasma-filled accelerator ring called the Magnetic Field Disrupter (MFD) surrounds the rotatable crew compartment and is far ahead of any imaginable technology. The plasma is pressurized at 250,000 atmospheres at a temperature of 150 degrees Kelvin, and accelerated to 50,000 RPM to create a super-conductive plasma with the resulting gravity disruption. Sandia National Labs and Lawrence Livermore Labs co-developed the MFD, which generates a magnetic-vortex field that disrupts or neutralises the effects of gravity on mass within proximity by 89%. This is not anti-gravity, for anti-gravity provides a repulsive force that can be used for propulsion. The MFD creates a disruption of the Earth’s gravitational field upon the mass within the circular accelerator. The mass of the circular accelerator—and all mass within the accelerator, such as the crew capsule and the nuclear reactor—are reduced by almost 90%. This causes the effect of making a vehicle extremely light and able to outperform and outmanoeuvre (horizontally and vertically) any aircraft yet constructed. Except, of course, those ‘Unconventional Flying Objects’ (UFO) not of Earthly origin. The TR-3B’s aerodynamic performance is limited only the stresses that its human aircrew can endure. Which is a lot, really, considering along with the 89% reduction in mass, the G forces are also reduced by 89%. The TR-3B’s aircrew can therefore comfortably sustain up to 40Gs which, when reduced by 89%, will be about 4.2 Gs. 
By using electromagnetic forces to contain rotating systems, it is possible for the masses to reach relativistic velocities. Thus, a comparatively small amount of matter, if dense enough and moving fast enough, can produce usable gravitational effects. The requirement for a dense material moving at relativistic speeds would explain the use of Mercury plasma (heavy ions). If the plasma really spins at 50,000 RPM and the Mercury ions are also moving in a tight pitched spiral, then the individual ions would be moving probably hundreds, perhaps thousands of times faster than the bulk plasma spin, in order to execute their ‘screw thread’ motions. It is quite conceivable that the ions could be accelerated to relativistic speeds in this manner. For this to happen, it is necessary to strip the free electrons from the plasma, making a positively charged plasma, since the free electrons would tend to counter-rotate and reduce the efficiency of the MFD. One of Dr Albert Einstein’s postulates of general relativity (GR) says that gravitational mass and inertial mass are equivalent. This is consistent with claims of the inertial mass within the mercury-based plasma ring also being reduced by 89%. This also explains why the TR-3B is triange-shaped. Since it still requires conventional thrusters for propulsion, the thrusters would need to be located outside of the ‘mass reduction zone’ or else the mass of the thrusters reaction material would also be reduced, making them terribly inefficient. Since it requires a minimum of three legs to have a stable stool, it follows that one would need a minimum of three thrusters to have a stable aerospace platform. Three thrusters, located outside of the plasma ring, plus appropriate structural support, would naturally lead to a triangular shape for the vehicle. 
The nuclear reactor heats the liquid hydrogen and injects liquid oxygen in the supersonic thruster nozzles (developed by Rockwell), so that the hydrogen burns concurrently in the liquid oxygen afterburner. This multi-mode propulsion system can operate in the atmosphere, with thrust being provided by the nuclear reactor, in the upper atmosphere, with hydrogen propulsion; and in orbit, with the combined hydrogen/oxygen propulsion. Directional propulsion is thus provided by the three multi-mode thrusters mounted at each bottom corner of the triangular platform. The TR-3B is a sub-Mach 9 vehicle until it reaches altitudes above 100,000 feet. It is 600 feet across, which would make it similar in size to an aircraft carrier. At least three prototypes were built, each measuring about 60 metres across, and the operational model is about 180 metres (600 feet) across. The TR-3B can thus be used as a reconnaissance platform with an indefinite loiter time. 


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Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun,

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2016/05/22/features/interview-ahmed-rashid-pakistani-policy-is-difficult-to-understand/

Interview by Ahmed Rashid on Porkistan Policy.

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

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Israeli Iron Dome in Super Slow motion
Israeli Iron Dome in Super Slow motion.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

http://www.dawn.com/news/1259979/afghan-taliban-chief-mullah-mansour-killed-in-balochistan

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Afghan-Taliban-leader-Mullah-Mansour-killed-in-US-drone-strike/articleshow/52381513.cms

That shows how impotent the PAF is! Can't even ensure airspace sovereignty. The same fate now awaits Pakistan's nuclear WMD storage facilities.

To S SENTHIL KUMAR: You're terribly overestimating China's capacities & capabilities. Any China-built SSK can't be supplied via the KKH, it has to transit the seas & several chokepoints are available in the South China Sea & IOR.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To S SENTHIL KUMAR: One doesn't need to physically attack a submerged platform with kinetic weapons in order to disable it. There are several other ways & options. As for sympathy, even now there's none coming from its so-called brotherly Islamic countries. US-Saudi relations have never been better & therefore the Saudis continue to be the best weapons-importing customers for the US military-industrial complex.

buddha said...

if storage facilities are to be destroyed in pakistan......can there be possibilities of china to supply again.....
can pakistan withstand such strike and remain intact....or this will be the end pakistan...and broken into 4/5 small country....
will indian sign remaining pacts within time frame
indian rafale taking part seems quiet unlikely on that air-land battle.....
is there any possibilities china opening any front against india
and what will be the reaction of indian opposition party...and
2018 being the election year..will modi govt take the risk of war

bhoutik said...

belated greetings on buddha purnima.

i have 2 more questions -

* does the IRNSS constellation have anti jamming capabilities?
*let me apologize for this question in advance as this might sound a bit silly - is the zumwalt class capable of going underwater? the thought just popped up - the entire surface is covered.

thanks again...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To BUDDHA: LoLz! How will that be possible when Gilgit-Baltistan too will be captured by India during such an AirLand campaign, resulting in reunification of J & K? In fact, Pakistan will become a pariah state just like North Korea, as per Zalmay Khalilzad's latest warning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNL-o8yOD-o

To BHOUTIK: 1) Yes, but it is not totally invulnerable to jamming. 2) LoLz! No, it is a surface warfare combatant.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

New ground-reports from Gwadar, Baluchistan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCd5kODz6V8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcorWyyz5_w

Gessler said...

The RLV-TD has been successfully launched, Prasun ji!

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/india-s-very-own-space-shuttle-launched-successfully-by-isro/story-53k4Yr6sdfxzj7BS9vEUSO.html

This thing actually looks more similar to the X-37B than anything else, although it doesn't follow that kind of boost phase (carried as payload).

Technology, Photograpy and Travel said...

S.Senthil Kumar,

Sorry that i came into Question you. Did World Muslim world help, Pak when they had worst floods and Earth Quakes ... Pakistan is neither a lamp of the Muslim world, nor they have any saying Muslim geopolitics. only 2 Muslim countries and can do it Saudi and IRAN and no one else in their clan can do it.

As for Taking out War heads lets see how the world powers work their way out I think it is doable. China will never burn their fingers take it for granted.

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun,

http://idrw.org/turbulence-how-we-almost-lost-tejas/


“Dr V.S. Arunachalam, a former scientific adviser to the defence minister and chief of DRDO remembers the day they almost lost the plane. “At one meeting in 1991, chaired by then Defence Minister Sharad Pawar, MP Suresh Kalmadi, said we should be sent behind bars because he had found large-scale misappropriation of funds. But Ratan Tata, who was invited to the meeting along with other industrialists had a contrary opinion. Tata told the minister that we had chosen the best technology and if for some reason the government wished to scrap the project, the Tata Group would take over and make the aircraft themselves. Pawar then decided to support us as many others had agreed with Tata,” he says.”

People like MP Suresh Kalmadi is always show stopper for India. This useless fellows should be thrown to dustbin.


Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

Siddharth said...

Prasun da,

http://idrw.org/indias-first-fully-indigenized-anti-airfield-weapon-tested/

Can you please enlighten all of us here about the achievement mad by DRDO.

Technology, Photograpy and Travel said...

Prasun Da


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/PM-Modi-in-Iran-India-signs-pact-to-develop-Chabahar-port/articleshow/52398453.cms

Your words in Literal Happenings

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun,

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/interceptor-missile-mission-a-failure/article8634085.ece

Is it really failure or just to fool the world the test is failure and we are no where near to develop & deploy.

Reason Why I am asking this is Pornistan shouted with big mouth about India's Anti-Ballistic Missiles Test recently.

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

Arpit Kanodia said...

Lol, Wajahat Khan indeed put himself into an uncomfortable position by discussing with local peoples of Gawahdar.

And acting like that this totally a casual thing, by making fun of them and ignoring what they saying.

Dushyant hardaha said...

India, Iran, Afghanistan sign pact for Trilateral Transport & Transit Corridor
checkmate for CPEC

rad said...

hi prasun

What is this SAAW ?. is it a glide bomb as reports say it has a 100km range?, reminds me of the spice 250. 100% indian again or 100 screwdriver tech?.

I congratulate ISRO on the flight of the RLV TD ie making a mach 5 capable vehicle in spite of not making any winged vehicle ever. Please give us a scoop of the above two. You had mentioned the RLV TD had a human controller. Please explain where will he be operating from and will he be having a real time scene in front of him like a UAV controller screen. THe fat journo released pics of the vehicle but why is there no proper video on the actual launch?Is there any thing classified after he release the pics.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To RAD: SAAW is what I had explained with illustrations in a thread back in 2015, i.e. an electromagnetic weapon that knocks out all air-defence & airspace surveillance systems of an air base.

As for RLV-TD, perhaps this will quench your thirst to some extent.

To S, SENTHIL KUMAR: For as long as either the AAD or PDV are not tested against a solid-fuelled ballistic missile-type target, it will be impossible to label the AAD & PDV as credible interceptors.

Ludwig said...

Prasun sir, when do you think AAD anv PDV will be tested against such targets and what is the role of the special ship DRDO has asked cochin shipyard to make in all of this?

Unknown said...

Sir, what will rlv-td's final version look like.

Seems like it would be similar to American space shuttle orbiter in dimensions.

But American space shuttle needed large expendeble boosters for launch.
Whereas ISRO wants rlv to be 100% reusable. How ISRO plans to achieve this.

Thank you sir

R. Sarath Kumar said...

Hello Prasun sir,

DRDO has reportedly tested a new anti-runway glide bomb. Is this the Smart Anti-Airfield Weapon (SAAW) shown in the picture below? Or is that just a placeholder image?

http://i.imgur.com/Hn9tFcA.jpg

About ISRO, let me tell you a very witty line i heard recently -

"Some countries have the Moon on their flags.

But some countries have their flags on the Moon!"

Thank you very much Sir,
Sarath Kumar R.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To S SENTHIL KUMAR: There’s a lot about the OBL mission that’s still not out in the public domain. Similarly, the way this Mullah Mansour was killed is not yet being understood. He was stalked all the way from Iran, meaning Iranian intelligence had facilitated this stalking. Secondly, the US publicly acknowledged this drone-strike, meaning it was the US military that conducted this strike & not the CIA. The CIA’s drone-strikes are NEVER publicly acknowledged. What this means is that for the SECOND time, the US armed forces have officially violated Pakistan’s sovereignty (the first being in May 2011) & have directly attacked inside Pakistan. What it now means is that a precedent has been set & in future such attacks will take place anywhere else inside Pakistan, if Pakistan does not militarily respond with an attack against the US. Will Pakistan be able to do it?

As for Pakistan’s nuclear WMDs, capturing components of missiles isn’t important at all. What matters most are the fissile materials for the warheads. Even warhead components aren’t important. Therefore, locations to be tracked, targetted, attacked & captured will not number more than 12. Saudis NEVER invested in Pakistan’s nuclear WMD programmes. They had invested only in KRL in Kahuta & that too for obtaining weapons like Baktar Shikan ATGMs & Anza Mk.1 MANPADS for the Bosnian civil war of the early 1990s & more recently for the civil war in Syria. China, being a thoroughbred mercantile state, will never throw all its eggs into a single basket & for Beijing, Pakistan will have to become expendable, or else it will lose all the goodwill it now enjoys with India, Iran & Afgfhanistan. In any case, China will never engage in direct kinetic military operations against the US, since it is decades behind the US in most military technological arenas.

It is also evident now that for the Muslim Ummah, what matters most are national self-interests. There never was & there will never be a common glue that binds all Muslims together, either as nations or as individuals. The Arabas too have a vested interest in preventing Israel from becoming a declared nuclear weapons state as this will engulf the GCC member-states & Egypt into a financially unsustainable arms race, & the Sunni Arabs will therefore not seek to provoke Israel by seeking access to any kind of ‘Islamic’ nuclear WMD. The Shia Muslims anyway are opposed to Pakistan’s nuclear WMDs.

As for the LCA, Ratan Tata must surely be eating those words. While the best technologies were indeed selected, what sealed the fate of the programme was the project steering/management aspects of the LCA-related R & D effort. Had HAL, & not ADA, been made the prime R & D contractor, matters would have been much better & far more productive.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SIDDHARTH & R SARATH KUMAR: The SAAW is exactly what I had explained earlier in a separate thread as well as to RAD above. Bombs equipped with glide-kits, fibre-optic gyros or GPS receivers can't exactly disable runways or taxiways or aprons or HAS. For that LGBs have to be sued for precision-strike. Therefore, any SAAW must first be tasked with neutralising all the airspace surveillance sensors & related self-defence weapons like SHORADS & MR-SAMs. And this can be done ONLY with weapons that generate EMPs to disable all electronic gadgetry in use in & around an air base for at least 2 hours so that strike aircraft armed with LGBs can conduct precision-strikes from medium altitudes. That's where the SAAW comes in. Do read all about it here:

https://trishul-trident.blogspot.in/2015/05/missing-woods-for-trees.html

Title is: Standoff DEW For SEAD

Pinkal Shah said...

Dear Sir,

Greetings!!

Thanks you for such in-depth & detailed narrative of black projects of USA.

Eagerly waiting for your rebuttal on Dr. Ashley Tellis papper on IAF Air Power and additional information on Black Star SSTO as well as Flux-Liner ARV.

Also waiting for your answer on Mr. Arup question posted on May 20, 2016 at 8:36 PM.

Thanking you in anticipation,

Regards
Pinkal Shah

Srinivasa Nanduri said...


Hi Prasun ji,

I have a question regarding Mullah Mansoor's killing. Will this make American strategy against Afghan Taliban more proactive. Will they target Haqqani and other top leadership now. And with 15 provinces being attacked at one level or other how safe is Afghanistan today. Pakistani Media almost give a picture as if these provinces are now under defacto Taliban control. Is Afghan National Army so weak that it is failing in Helmand, Farah, Faryab, Kunar and Nangarhar so badly. Will there be another civil war and if so what will be the impact on India's North South Corridor.

Regards,
Srinivasa N

Anonymous said...

prasun Da,

My Q about HAL_Pushpak into an autonomous aircraft, How possible is it.

Regards
Aditya ( Tech, Travel and Photo )

GHOST said...

Sir, WTF is the MOD/GoI doing about the fact that the Scorpenes are being inducted without the Black Shark?? These idiots have had YEARS to adddress the problem and yet they are still being inducted TOOTHLESS??

The problem is I can see the headlines in 2 years time, "INS Vikran being inducted blind" when the RAN-40L inevitably is not delivered because of these BULLSHIT "scandels".

Politcians commit the wrongdoing, their succesors sign some paper and ban XYZ and who ends up paying for it? US and the poor soldier/sailor/airmen forced to fight with their hand tied behind their back and a gushing wound.


And what of the need for a VVIP helo? This seems to be lost in "choppergate" what exactly is the GOI doing to ensure we don't lose our elected PM or memeber of the NCA in a preventable helicopter crash? You couldn't pay me to go up in a 30+ year olf Mi-8 and yet our PM is being made to do so on an almost daily basis. THIS IS CRIMINAL.

GLASSHOUSE said...

Sir, what you say about the NNCA protocals vis a vis transport of the AW-101s via the C-17s of the IAF raises some very important questions:

1) What now replaces the AW-101? VVIP versions of the V5 I would guess even though the Russian PM and deputy PM don't even use Russian helos themselves (lol) but this is all we are left with sadly.
2) We don't have nearly eough C-17s, the IAF wanted as many as 26 apparently and with at least 16 but with the Long Beach plant closing a couple of years ago we are left with just 10 and in 10-15 years the IAF's heavy airlift fleet will shrink by 66% as the 20 or so IL-76s are phased out. We have truly FUCKED UP here, there is NOTHING on the market that is a subsitute for the C-17A and NO WAY will we have developed an inhouse C-17 type wide body transport in 15 years so what the hell are we going to do? The Il-416 just won't cut it and I'm frankly sick of Russian products and their piss poor performance over their lifespan. We should have done everything we could to get at least 10 more C-17s, we have sleepwalked into a(nother) NIGHTMARE here and the consequences are grave.

Have you notiiced that every SINGLE time the IAF has needed a rapid response (HADR or evacuation) in the last 2 year they have sent C-17s NOT their workhorse that outbumber the C-17s 2:1 the IL-76, this is VERY TELLING. The availabiliy rates of the C-17 are 85% at anytime and Boeing is LEGALLY bound to deliver this to the IAF as per a contract signed by them.

birbal said...

GHOST said...

Sir,...........made to do so on an almost daily basis. THIS IS CRIMINAL

I think you Woke-up LATE my dear friend ooooppps..GHOOOSTT.., I am afraid of Ghosttt..eeeeeee...SCOOBY-DOO where are you...

Koi baat nahi...Daer aye par turusht aaye...
You know what, I am NOT Surprised.........Why??, Becoz you are a GHOST, Not a HUMAN form anymore...:)
Had you been a Human form, Not Ghost you would have POSTED your thinking uummm 5yrs BACK..........:)

birbal said...

GHOST Now GLASSHOUSE........Really SPOOOKY...I am Having GOOSEBUMPS that too in the morning...
I think we are in the MIDDLE of a Sherlock Holmes Ghostly novel....

GHOST said...

Birbal bro,

I'm glad you are with me that it is criminal behaviour but I also think we need to acknowledge that if this much-hyped current DM/PM are not fixing the situation then this is criminal neglect on THEIR part. It is no longer acceptable to blame the crooks that came before them, the NDA has been in power for 2 years now and no solution is on the horizon as far as I can see. In fact, this Govt is simply making the situation more toxic and unikely to be resolved anytime soon.

Unknown said...

Sir, contradictory reports are emerging about interceptor missile test drdo did this month...

http://m.thehindu.com/news/national/interceptor-missile-mission-a-failure/article8634085.ece

Report says that "interceptor never took off"

Can you plz confirm...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To PINKAL SHAH: VMT. I too am awaiting for answers from ARUP WRT the questions I had posed for him.

To SRINIVASA NANDURI: It is now becoming crystal-clear that the US is playing a long-con against Pakistan by calibrating the ratcheting up of pressure, which is likely aimed at provoking Pakistan into making a mistake or terrible mis-calculation, following which a nuclear WMD-armed Pakistan will be projected as a global menace that requires surgical operations for detoxification. That's how big countries play games; thery don't waste time/money on 'gulli-danda'. The skeletons are now cominbg out of the closet WRT the 'Good Afghan Taliban' & thery are being spilt out by Pakistanis themselves, for instance here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYecCWlVyms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POM2FtoZef8

To PIYUSH DAS: The RLV will eventually resemble the Boeing X-37B & its primary roles will be to 1) launch satellites in low-earth & polat sun-synchronous orbits; & 2) to clear up the enormous pile of space debris in such orbits. The US, India & Japan have already decided to team-up for undertaking such missions. And do watch these:

RLV-TD Launch-1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwlvW8cYh4Q

RLV-TD Launch-2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7E0thD--10

To GESSLER & ADITYA: Yesterday was a game-changing day. Here are the main glimpses:

India-Iran Joint Statement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxZHuo9gUXc

Announcement of Chahbahar FTIZ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-oHhV1YA3o

India-Financed Salma Dam in Afghanistan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVA_FsHHvPk

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To GESSLER & ARPIT KANODIA: These photos are now causing a lot of anguish in both Rawalpindi & Islamabad:

http://pibphoto.nic.in/photo//2016/May/l2016052383745.jpg

http://pibphoto.nic.in/photo//2016/May/l2016052383742.jpg

http://pibphoto.nic.in/photo//2016/May/l2016052383744.jpg

birbal said...

GHOST said...

Birbal bro,

I'm glad you are with me that it is criminal behaviour but I also think we need to acknowledge that if this much-hyped current DM/PM are not fixing the situation then this is criminal neglect on THEIR part. Very TRUE...

It is no longer acceptable to blame the crooks that came before them, the NDA has been in power for 2 years now and no solution is on the horizon as far as I can see. In fact, this Govt is simply making the situation more toxic and unikely to be resolved anytime soon. Also True...BUT,
Thinking ALONE doesn't SOLVE the Problem my dear friend, Taking ACTION does....as NSA Mr Ajit Doval had said last year, INCREASE your Weight and Punch accordingly, ...Also Prasunda says increasing your BP doesn't SOLVE the problem...

So RELAX,... and have a NICE time my friend ...

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun,

Thanks for your email. I agree with your post. Most of the Muslim countries or individuals are nowadays become selfish in nature. Only Muslim Ummah kind of slogans are in paper only. Earlier Most Muslim countries specially Arab league main problems is Palestine issue. Now Palestine is no more in world picture. Today most of the Arab countries started to feel that the whole Muslim/Arab countries or ummah is decades back in scientific knowledge or technology.

Past four decades of Petro dollar made them lazy & day dreaming for ever. Now chickens are coming for roast. Low oil price, fighting between shia-sunni, increasing expense, America quitting the place (Because of Shale Oil Production) are pushing them to hell. Recently you can see Saudi announcement of 2030 Plan to make KSA as manufacturing hub.

Now old Villan is emerging with New Mask. Turkey's New Othaamen Sultan Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is becoming Dictator. Now OIC is under his clouds. Porkistan & Turkish military friendship is like steel not like other GCC Friendship. I think he may raise the Muslim Ummah slogan very soon to unite the entire Muslim community.

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun,

Regarding LCA Project, MOD under R. Venkataraman should first merge the HAL under DRDO. Reason during that time HAL has more experience than DRDO in Aeronautical R & D and Manufacturing.

DRDO started all from the scratch which consumed most of the time. If it is done properly, LCA 1,2,3 are flying now with International Standards.

May be ignorance or lack of understanding or fight between DRDO & HAL may be the reason.

Do you agree?

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun,

Regarding Salma Dam, India did a good thing. But here porkistan is not against. Actually Iran doesn't want the dam to rebuild. Iran is playing double game with Taliban in Salma dam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salma_Dam

Please give your comments.

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

rad said...

hi prasun
EMP weapons!! great!.A couple of months ago group of college kids from a rural college developed a EMP jammer as their project.It could disable cellphones and other gadgets to a large extent . We do have talent . I believe all mil specs equipment are hardened for emp and even so can reboot .Cell phones are very prone to EMP and cant be booted its gone for ever as the front end tronics get fried!.
Are AESA radars better at dealing with this EMP?. The next question is why not make a nirbhay emp capable ? after all it has a bigger payload and hence greater ERP?.

I think we should let the ISRO make the next gen AMCA!!.

birbal said...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SRINIVASA NANDURI: It is now becoming crystal-clear that the US is playing a long-con against Pakistan .....projected as a global menace that requires surgical operations for detoxification. That's how big countries play games; theory don't waste time/money on 'gulli-danda'. The skeletons are now coming out of...

detoxification...hahaha, 'gulli-danda'...hahaha

Nawaz Shareef: Kya baat hein Obama sahab aajkaal aap hame najar-andaaz kar rahe hein, lagta hain ki aap hamse naraaj hain....aap aayeye hamare ghar, mehfil baanayenge...aur hamare peechware bagise mein Goli-Bandook, mera matlab hai ki GULLI-DANDA Khelenge....

Mr Obama: What GULLI-DANDA!!! ENOUGH of that...Now we don't have TIME to play GULLI-DANDA....we play Base-Ball..

Nawaz Shareef: kya Base-Ball..Wazire Azam!! kaise khelte he yeh?

Mr Obama: Base-Ball is played with a Bat and a Ball, where I am the Bat and You are the Ball and i am going to HIT you for a Home-Run


Gopu said...

I finished reading the main post and I had a couple of questions on these 'exotic aircraft'.

1) What is the reason for developing SR-72 which has a turbojet-ramjet configuration, when the SR-75 already achieves hypersonic speeds with a turbojet and PDWE. Is it just additional endurance from the ramjet?
2) Do you have any information on the USSR/Russia's project Ajax?
3) Does the F-117 exploit plasma stealth? I'm guessing plasma stealth is what makes the difference between LO and VLO.
4) The whole TR-3B conspiracy seems to be concocted by this Edgar Fouche bloke. I'm not really convinced on the whole 89% reduction of the Earth's gravitational field. You would have to clearly explain what is happening to the stress-energy tensor of the object in relation to Einstein's field equations for any of the TR-3B's theory to make any physical sense.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To GHOST: Do read this:

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/manohar-parrikar-agustawestland-bjp-two-years-anniversary-rafale-deal-defence-minister-defence-procurement-2815916/

Siddharth said...

Prasun da,

On Scorpene front RM is bluffing. Which other torpedoes can be fitted in Scorpene. Logically seems unclear to me.

GHOST said...

Prasun sir, re: the MP interview link ( for the link btw, VMT)

So MP has actually done it- he has banned Finmeccanica (something he said was counter productive 18 months ago and something he said he would no longer do), entirely ignored the AG's advice and in the process truly FUCKED our defence procurements across the board. That's that then- the IAC-1/Vikrant won't have a VSR, the sunk costs in the Scorpene configured to the Black Shark Torpedo (100s of millions of USD) have been WASTED and countless other defence deals will now be stalled/scrapped and countless defence products in service will be made unservicable. And this clown keeps harping on about "performance" and "delivering the best deal for India"?? The money he is trying to save on the Rafale deal is probably equal to the amount he has assured has been WASTED with the Scorpene torpedo debacle.



Finmeccanica is a HUGE company with mulitple world class subsidaries and we are now not able to do buisness with any of them? Great, one way or another we the taxpayer and the poor soldiers/sailors get screwed don't we?

And all for pure HERESAY, not a single person has actually been prosecuted of any crimes relating to the AW-101 deal in India as of yet. No one has even been arrested FFS!

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SIDDHARTH, ANUP & GHOST: The solution is at hand: the INJ's 6 Scorpene SSKs will be armed with the F-21 torpedoes that will be supplied by DCNS. An extra cost of US$30 million will be incurred in the process, since the torpedo fire-control software on the 6 SUBTICS CMS units will now have to be modified & upgraded & only DCNS can do this since the IPRs for the source-codes for SUBTICS are all owned by DCNS. Here are the details on the F-21, which actually is a derivative of the Black Shark & still contains several components supplied by WASS:

The wire-guided F-21 is scheduled to be operational in 2016. DCNS has developed an important component for safe deployment: an energy pack based on an aluminium/silver oxide electric battery that needs seawater for activation—an element unlikely to be found in the submarine. The new torpedo weighs 1.2 tons, has a range of 50km (31 miles), speed of 50 Knots, and 1-hour endurance. It can attack multiple targets and has extended fibre-optic wire guidance. DCNS says it is resistant to most countermeasures. The warhead contains PBX B2211, a high-impulse, high-bubble-energy, insensitive explosive that conforms to NATO’s STANAG 4439 and France’s MURAT (Munitions a Risques Attenues) standards. The torpedo uses an all-electric “fuse-and-slapper” detonation technology. Primarily used in missiles, the plasma-based slapper system is more stable and safer than the conventional electro-mechanical detonation systems in most torpedoes. To meet submarine safety requirements, the F-21 will be launched by a technique in which it is pushed out of the boat by a piston, after which a valve in the torpedo opens and lets seawater into the battery to activate it. The battery provides high energy density and is the best-performing type on the market. The battery is sufficiently compact that the overall length of the F-21—6 metres (19.6-feet) long with a 21-inch diameter—is compatible with legacy launchers. One problem with competitive torpedoes that are equipped with older-generation batteries is that to achieve the energy for their missions and countermeasures, they need long batteries, which add so much to their length that they no longer fit into launchers. The torpedo must also have enough energy left once it has reached its target to attack and sink it. The F-21 is digital and operates in depths of 15-500 meters, which means it can be used in littoral and blue-water operations. In shallow waters there are “parasite” sounds that confuse torpedoes, which home in on targets acoustically. The F-21 treats the sound signals digitally with the same up-to-date processing as in modern shipborne sonars.

Additional data on the F-21 is available here:

http://www.gican.asso.fr/content/f21

Varun said...

Could RLV-TD be Russian Yu-70 or China's WU-14 analog? BMD evading Hypersonic Glide Vehicle.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To VARUN: No. For that scramjets are reqd & the full-scale RLV won't have them. It doesn't need them since the RLV's mission is entirely different & there are no plans to use it as a weaponised platform.

Abhay Jain said...

prasun sir,

what's your take on this report?

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/interceptor-missile-mission-a-failure/article8634191.ece

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ARPIT KANODIA: The cover-up has begun:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/24/us/politics/afghanistan-pakistan-taliban-leader.html?_r=0

Good 'masala' for the likes of Seymour Hersh to come up with another scoop on Pakistan's double-dealing with its brotherly 'Afghan Taliban' comrades.

Meanwhile, post-signature of the trilateral agreement on ChahBahar FTIZ, the anti-Afghanistan/Iran/India tirade has commenced:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TLyPUfJiMw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53F-7VeL2C4

To ABHAY JAIN: So what? I remain unfazed. It is only through fasilures that one learns how to succeed. Just look at the number of times the US failed in test-firing the German-designed, US-built V-2 ballistic rockets after 1945, before mastering the science & art of developing ICBMs & SLBMs. So, kindly rest easy & don't have any headaches over it.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ARPIT KANODIA: Listen to how strong & efficient Iranian intelligence agencies are in southeastern Iran:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UNR28qtiSs

Therefore, there's no way Kulbhushan Jadhav could have been kidnapped overland in or around Chah Bahar. He therefore had to be kidnapped in the high seas in international waters.

Also, do read this:

http://www.joc.com/port-news/asian-ports/japan-seeks-join-iran-india-chabahar-port-development_20160511.html

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ARPIT KANODIA: LoLz! In a giant map, Tajikistan showed PoK to be an integral part of India during the recent CASA-1000 power distribution project earlier this month. Watch from 8.20 till 8.37:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY4QwG0CZwo

birbal said...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SIDDHARTH, ANUP & GHOST: The solution is at hand: the INJ's 6 Scorpene SSKs will be armed with the F-21 torpedoes that will be supplied by DCNS.

That's a GREAT news indeed...PHEWW ab jaake saas me saaz aayein....I think now GHOST can RELAX and come back to HUMAN form.....no need to TERRORIZE the CLOWN....:)

birbal said...

coontinued...

aur ANUP shayad kuch deeno ke liye CHUP rahega...:)

Technology, Photograpy and Travel said...

http://phys.org/news/2016-05-optics-breakthrough-revamp-night-vision.html

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun,

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/Russia-Remains-Determined-To-Stop-Israel-Turkey-Pipeline-Deal.html

Othaman Sultan Erdogan who acted as a Hero for Muslims NOW throw the Palestine cause into dustbin.

Now we wants to do business with Israel & allowing Israel to open office in NATO.

There is No Permanent Friends or Permanent Enemies in Politics again comes true.

Now let us wait & watch what is Russia's move in the Israel -Turkey Pipeline.

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun,

http://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Middle-East/Did-The-Saudis-Exaggerate-Their-US-Treasury-Holdings.html

Last two to three weeks two things are happening in world stage. One US plan to release Sep 9/11 secret report about Saudi Govt. Participation. Immediately Saudi threaten to sell all its US Treasury bonds worth $750 Billion. After Saudi announcements, Obama authorize Sep 9/11 Victim families to sue Saudi Government.

This all are happening after US-Iran Nuclear Agreement.

From the above things I have serious of questions.

1) Why suddenly US plan to rake the 9/11 Issues?
2) What happen to Saudi-US Relations? Why Turki al Faisal is telling relations have gone?
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/20/world/saudi-prince-turki-amanpour/

3) Is US & Europe planned to join with Iran and throw all arab regimes into dustbin? Is any great game is set for Next US President?.

Please share your Knowledge & give your comments.

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

RAT said...

Hi Prasun,

My last post did not get updated however wanted to know the status of KALI in context to Direct energy radiating weapon? will it or will it not be developed in full fledged anti-missile and anti-aircraft and anti-ship system or has all that research work gone down the drain? Please reply

Srinivasa Nanduri said...

Hi Prasun ji,

Thank you for your reply. It really was informative.

I have read in IDRW today that HAL is partner with Antonov to manufacture a 50-80 seater aircraft in India

http://idrw.org/ukraines-antonov-frontrunner-hals-military-aircraft-programme/

How true is this report. With MRTA and C295W induction in planning stage, do we need another such project. Why do DRDO and HAL do such contradictory works and eat up the funds and hurt armed forces this way. Cant they work in coordination with Armed forces and not in silos.

And also is it true that HAL might go for Gripen NG for Tejas MK II. And that Tejas Mk II is not going to happen now.

Regards,
Srinivasa N

bradshaw said...

Hi Prasun,

Any update on this news .. http://idrw.org/parrikar-torpedoes-upa-approved-rs-1800-cr-deal-equip-scorpene-subs/

Its claimed that the CMS of scorpene is already optimized for Black Shark torpedoes??

Common Sense said...

http://www.newsx.com/national/29772-newsx-exclusive-india-bought-the-junk-which-world-powers-rejected#comment-70276

Prasun, the above is an example of one of the world's crappiest headlines ever. You didn't need Maoists or JeM to weaken India when media lowlifes are there like a pack of wild dogs.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To COMMON SENSE: These desi nitwits also did a programme on it last night. Here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loLrgLP92yo

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To BRADSHAW: The F-21 torpedo will be ordered. Had already stated it earlier yesterday. Check up my earlier comment.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To COMMON SENSE: Here's more crap from these desi nitwits:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/VVIP-chopper-scam-sinks-torpedo-deal-for-new-submarines/articleshow/52422379.cms

Abhay Jain said...

prasun sir,

I earlier asked you why is there conflicting reports regarding AAD missile test and not that I was criticizing failure. I know very well that failure leads to success. I am sorry if you get that impression.


regards

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ABHAY JAIN: The reason why there are conflicting reports is due to those who specialise in manufacturing news & proclaiming everything is just fine, while other discerning journalists (and there are very very few of them) take the trouble to do some investigations before reaching a conclusion. This is what has gotten almost everyone confused about the Tejas Mk.1 & Tejas Mk.1A. In reality, all 10 Tejas Mk.1 SP-series aircraft are being built to IOC standard. So how exactly they will be granted FOC status is mind-boggling! The 120 Tejas Mk.1A that mostr are speculating about requires at least 20 major internal modifications for ease of maintenance, following which they will have to be flight-tested. These modifications are only about re-arranging the internal layout of various avionics LRUs & NOT REDUCTION of the LRUs. Plus, the cockpit display avionics will have to be changed as demanded by the IAF, & the EL/M-2052 AESA-MMR & the actuated aerial refuelling probe from Cobham will have to be installed & integrated. So where's the scope for weight reduction or availability of additional or spare internal volume that's reqd for these additional internal fitments? The external ASPJ fit does not include MAWS, so what will be the survivability factor of the alleged Tejas Mk.1A, which will be available only sometime in 2020 for flight-testing?

So, for all intents & purposes, the speculative Tejas Mk.1A will morphe into the larger Tejas Mk.2. There's no other option nor can HAL repudiate all existing laws of physics by claiming to be able to reduce the Tejas Mk.1's weight. Any MRCA without MAWS & internal ASPJ will be a dead-duck & will easily fall prey to WVRAAMs & BVRAAMs. So, let's stop wasting time on speculating about the Tejas Mk.1A & focus on the definitive Tejas Mk.2 & decide whether it should sport canards or LEVCONS, or should have thrust-vectoring nozzles instead.

Pinkal Shah said...

Dear Sir,

Greetings of the day!!

Thanks for your reply.

But still want to know whether there should any black projects exits for Russian or erstwhile USSR in response to US black projects.

Also eagerly waiting for your rebuttal on Dr. Ashley Tellis papper on IAF Air Power and additional information on Black Star SSTO as well as Flux-Liner ARV.

Thanking you in anticipation,

Regards
Pinkal Shah

Arpit Kanodia said...

@Gopu Stress energy tensor only works when there is conservation of energy exist, and in the universe of curved space time that don't exist.

Furthur the equations that provided by the Newton only works for stars or planet.

They predict meaningless things for small things like proton and electron or for large things like Galaxy.

For that there are two options, find dark matter that binding the galaxy or gravity just working differently that we don't understand till now.

Arpit Kanodia said...

And the best symptom of breakdown of conservation of energy is exponential growth of Universe. From where this negetive pressure coming.

My guess is the answer is Dirac Equations, where a negetive matter create capable of creating continues infinite energy.

Arpit Kanodia said...

BTW, The question is can we use this dark energy as anti gravity?

Creating negetive pressure between two objects.

Or we already done this in 1980?

Arpit Kanodia said...

Lol Seems like Pakistan is very desperate.

Now saying MTCR countries should act against BrahMos Aerospace & Project Sangarika.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1110154/analysis-pakistan-hinting-cap-missile-development/

Prav said...

@Prasun . Don't you think that the PMs visit to Iran and the triparty talks with Afghanistan deserves its own article ? There are a lot of details that are missed out by the MSM ?

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun,

Porkistan is buying AgustaWestland AW139 helicopter from Italy.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1260792/pakistan-signs-helicopter-contract-with-italian-aerospace-giant

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

sathead3 said...

@Senthil,
I am keen to hear your view on why the US is releasing 9/11 report and allowing affected citizens to sue the Saudi government since 9/11 was an internal CIA operation and had nothing to do with the Saudis?

youngbengal said...

Prasun Sir, here is the love letter for Pakistan with indecent proposal from her extramarital love!!!

http://www.india.com/news/world/china-warns-people-to-shun-practise-of-islam-1214861/

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To YOUNGBENGAL: I have something even better (LoLz!) to share with you:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1110571/name-protection-cii-bill-proposes-curbs-women/

To PRAV: Here's something to quench your thirst:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1110475/chabahar-port-new-game-changer/

Have been extremely busy for the past 2 days with the following conference/seminar:

http://www.cenjows.in/event-detail.php?id=82

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To S. SENTHIL KUMAR: Here's the official statement:

http://www.leonardocompany.com/documents/63265270/78613403/ComLDO_Pakistan_AW139_24_05_2016_ENG.pdf?download_file

These AW-139s will be used by the Special Security Division, numbering 10,000-strong, that is being raised for providing security for the Chinese expatriates involved in executing various projects in Pakistan & PoK under the CPEC framework.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To PRAV: Here are some more interesting reading materials:

http://www.theweek.in/theweek/current/bad-blood-over-bifurcation-of-top-post.html

http://www.theweek.in/columns/Sanjaya-Baru/irani-chai-for-narendra-modi.html

But if you really want to do some serious reading over this weekend, then I suggest you read the book INDIA's WARs by AVM Arjun Subramanyam, which for the very first time focusses on the wars of 1962, 1965 & 1971 & approaches them from the angle of joint warfare & combined operations (an analysis never attempted before in such critical detail), which in essence are the lessons learnt the hard way & therefore makes very interesting & reading of certain incisive conclusions. Do see these:

http://www.indianairforce.nic.in/images/coverpage.jpg

https://harpercollins.co.in/book/indias-wars/



Anonymous said...

I hope i don't get accused of being something I am not. All the links that various people put up wrt pakistan, actually show that they have very good analytical media. I am impressed by the standard of the content and design.

I have a question with respect to the ABM system test. This interceptor is based on the prithvi system. Does this not indicate that our strategic assets are not as reliable as one assumes?

There has always been a bit of ambiguity on the reliability of some of our strategic systems and anyone questioning that is automatically assumed to be an enemy agent. Speaking to a well versed gent, once of indian forces a little while ago, he said that if it comes to nuke war, we would be luck if half of our systems actually take-off and head in the right direction.

RAT666

Prav said...

Very nice links. Im glad that you mentioned the book too , books like this (about the Indian military )are very rare .

Paralay said...

Sir, Indian Army wanted the QRSAM for its maneuver elements so that when the armoured and mechanised inf formations penetrate into enemy territory, the Qrsam launchers will be able to accompany them and fire while on the move much like the SA-19 spaag. But recent media reports say Spyder has been selected and it emerged as the frontrunner in the technical trials while Tor M2KM and Bamse werent abel to pass the trials.
But Spyder SR launching unit cannot fire on the move. So how in the hell did it meet Army rrequirements. I remember reading some time back that they dont want any more Akash as it has a reaction time of well over 4 secs which the Army wants and its a static system meant for protection of fixed installations. So will you please explain what is going on or is it that i am missing something ?

Can you highlight the measures being taken by the airforce and army for combatting low rcs standoff pgm launched from combat jets and terrain hugging cruise missiles as well as tactical ballistic missiles and Pakistan's stocks of mrbm.

Are there any Spyder SR firing units in service with the airforce ?

Arpit Kanodia said...

@RAT 666 Dont act like if you talk sweet talks, you dont be perceived like a Pakistani.
And your questions and knowledge pointing at to same conclusion.

Firstly, if you dont know Prithvi was itself retired from SFC in last decade, so where is the question of reliability in Strategic force? You can assume anything, its upto you.

Secondly, PDV use solid fuel unlike Prithvi series, PDV only based on Prithvi airframe, and there is nothing common in between them.

So, thats why you can assume anything you want, same as Pak Fauj conceive Shaheen or Raad become operational just after one test.

This achievement neither done by US or USSR or by any other nation, just by Pakistan who just need one test to operationalization.

Further, for your sake of enlightenment, which I know very difficult for a Pakistani.

Check this how many THAAD are failed and aborted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_High_Altitude_Area_Defense

Varun said...

Russians say Tor M2 is better than SPYDER. Read: idrw.org/tor-m2km-is-better-than-israeli-spyder-sam-system-russians-to-india/ But now SPYDER has emerged as the fronrunner. Why?

Anonymous said...

No there is no spyder squadron operational with air force only Akash Sam squadron are operational with IAF ,only 2 or 3 squadron of Akash Sam are operational actually IAF still equipped with sa-3 pechora and unreliable sa-8. vinod

Anonymous said...

@Arpit,

the questions were not directed at you, so shoo off.

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Just saw the interview by AB with MP...some very interesting comments. Will he be able to bring the necessary changes without being accused of malpractice?

RAT666

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To RAT666: LoLz! A failure rate of 30 ballistic missiles failing to launch out of 100 is perfectly acceptable & force structures are always formulated taking such failure-rates into account. Have you ever seen any SSBN of Russia or the US every launching all its SLBMs in multiple salvoes in one-go? Almost all test-firings have been conducted only with solo-launches, & only a Russian SSBN once launched six SLBMs during a test-firing exercise. Does that mean all SSBNs of Russia, the US, the UK & France are all too-much-hyped-about? As for BMD tests, the latest test-firing was that of a solid-fuelled AAD endo-atmospheric interceptor which has nothing to do with the liquid-fuelled Prithvi. Even the latest PDV exo-atmospheric interceptor is solid-fuelled. Such interceptors are developed incrementally, i.e. sections of them are tested in a staggered manner. The complete, definitive design is tested only after 15 to 20 earlier test-firings. That's how everyone else in the world is doing it. Obviously therefore, India can't be the sole exception by choosing to test scores of parameters/test-points in just 3 to 6 test-firings. But I know why your mind is raising such questions & that's because you & everyone else were told previously by the DRDO that it is possible to test several parameters in one go (like what the late Dr Kalam had claimed in 1989 when the Agni-2 was tested). Well, as we all know since then, such claims were highly over-stated & anyone with a scientific kind of analytical mind will & should pooh-pooh such bombastic claims. So, I don;t blame you at all for asking such questions. And there's no need to get angry with ARPIT or anyone else trying to explain matters. Take it easy & remain objective in your analysis.

To PRAV, GESSLER ET ALL: Remember the FICCI-organised ‘Make in India’ Paradigm : Roadmap for a Future Ready Naval Force April 18-19, 2016? The papers presented there by IN nofficials are all available now at:

http://ficci.in/spdocument/20728/Indian-Naval-Officers-for-FICCI-Seminar.pdf

The section on nuclear propulsion clearly shows a version of the Afrikantov OKBM-designed KLT-40C PWR, which powers the S-2/Arihant SSBN. All in all, it makes very interesting reading. Enjoy it!

To PARALAY: LoLz! No QE-SAM SHORADS launcher is designed to fire on-the-move. Why should it. It has an engagement envelope from 9 to 16km, which is the distance covered by a mechaniused manoeuvring formation within 4 to 6 hours, depending on whether the terrain is mined or not, or whether the terrain is manoeuvre-friendly. Which means a SHORADS launcher--tracked or wheeled--has to change locations every 6 hours. Both the IAF & IA are looking at SpyDer-type SHORADS for combatting cruise missiles, & not hostile combat aircraft or attack helicopters, since the IAF today is perfectly capable of extending hardened air-cover over the FLOT during the contact battles. The IA on the other hand has helicopter gunships & in future the LUHs all armed with Mistral ATAM air-to-air missiles.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To RAT666: LoLz! How can anyone make any changes unless he/she first understands or knows what changes are reqd & why? The 'How' comes way later. It is all too good to shout & yell about corruption & middlemen inside Parliament, but when it comes to the crunch, folks like this RM just recoil by claiming the existence of an 'invisible hand'! In other words, he's saying "I have no proof whatsoever of any wrongdoing of the type I'm alleging, & yet I will prefer to cling to my belief/perception." Let him try that statement in a court of law & he will find both his brain & arse being sued for defamation. It's high time such jokers stopped underestimating the intelligence of the average Indian citizen & instead start focussing on the real dilemmas. For instance, this:

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/an-idea-whose-time-has-come/1/666100.html

While this RM has repeatedly stated that he is in favour of permanent CDS, what he refuses to divulge is the severe turbulence it is creating behind-the-scenes. For instance, the moment the CDS post is created, the HQ IDS will become the Secretariat for the CDS & consequently demands will arise for creation of tri-service HQs like Space Command, Cyber Command & Special Forces Command. This in turn will lead to the CDS demanding the creation of new posts of Lt Gens, Maj gens, Brigadiers etc etc, i.e. horizontal expansion of the uniformed military bureaucracy, which in turn will increase the defence budget's revenue expenditure at the cost of capital expenditure. And this in turn is now causing the civilian bureaucracy to oppose all this tooth-and-nail, who are stating that all these new Commands should in fact become 'Agencies' that do not require huge staff secretariats manned by three-/two-star officers. So what's the solution?

Clearly, there's a need for tri-services right-sizing. Existing sanctioned human resource levels need to be re-allocated different taskings. For instance, the IAF's BRDs & the IN's Naval Dockyards all need to be transferred to the private sector, as is the global practice. There are several other areas where the lean-and-mean concept can be applied without affecting war preparedness or warfighting capabilities. But for all this to be identified & articulated, a Strategic Defence Review is the need of the hour, which somehow the MoD seems to be avoiding since the previous decade after the 2002 OP Parakram. Instead, the carts always continue to be placed in front of the horses.

Paralay said...

Sir, I assumed some Shorad systems could fire on the move but I was dead wrong it seems. I did some study and found out even the Tor system has to stop while firing. When the target is locked and the missile is ready to fire, the TELAR stops for 3 or 4 secs and then the missile is fired.

Is the Army looking to buy Spyder SR or MR systems? SR carries just 4 rounds and needs to be reloaded very often. Increasing the no of rounds carried per TEL or housing them in a VLS like in MR will be better.

What are your takeways from that seminar on air and missile defense? Is Army looking forward to induct Mr-sam?
And how does the airforce plan to shot down standoff glide PGM? Is this why IAF wants to buy 234 air defense guns whose aon was recently approved by dac?

And inst the army and IAF concerned with theatre ballistic missiles and irbm ?Pakistan's huge arsenal is a pain in the ass? Can the Barak-8 being developed for IAF intercept TBM and Nlos-bsm if not MRBM?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To PARALAY: SpyDer-SR only. Cruise missile defence requires only IIR-guided SAMs for SHORADS. Up to 8 Python-5 rounds can be accommodated per launch vehicle, not just 4 as is shown during expos. IA does not require MR-SAMs like the Barak-2. That role is for the IAF. For the moment, the IA is happy with the Akash-1. The GB-MF-STAR radar for the IAF's Barak-2 MR-SAM will roll out later this year in Israel. Guns are obsolete against standoff PGMs. Laser-based GBADS are now the preferred choice due to far quicker reaction times. The 234 guns are about the existing L-70s & ZU-23 guns that are being upgraded with CONTROP of Israel's optronic fire-control systems. The same system is also on the LYNX shipborne fire-control system. TBMs & IRBMs that carry conventional warheads are NEVER accurate against static targets like air bases or industrial installations. They will therefore be used by Pakistan only as 'terror weapons' against soft-targets like India's major cities. There's no need to be defensive about it. If the need arises, India can retaliate by filling its C-130J-30s with gravity bombs & dropping them on Pakistani cities. Given the very-short warning time available for an inbound TBM or IRBM originating from Pakistan, kinetic interceotors like AAD or PDV won't be effective. The only solution is to go for high-power lasers located in static sites in cities like Delhi, Mumbai & Bengaluru & Jamnagar.

Lastly, EMI-compatibility tests involving the Dhanush 155mm/45-cal towed howitzer & the Shakti ACCS were successfully completed late last year in Leh & Sikkim & are now underway in Pokhran. Once this final hurdle is crossed, series-production of the Dhanush will be placed with OFB by this October.

VIKRAM GUHA said...

PrasunDa,

Today's Financial Express came out with a news item that BRAHMOS will be exported & talks with UAE, Chile, South Africa and Vietnam are in advanced stages.

http://www.financialexpress.com/article/economy/india-russia-team-up-to-export-worlds-fastest-anti-ship-cruise-missile-brahmos/266967/

You had explained earlier that Vietnam already has Russian built cruise missiles so they won't need the Brahmos. What about the other countries(UAE, Chile, South Africa) mentioned in the article.

Is there a possibility that they might buy the BRAHMOS?

Thanks & Regards,
VIKRAM

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To VIKRAM GUHA: LoLz! I have been hearing all this & about all these countries since late 2001. So far the result is a big ZERO (0).

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

For all those interested in the J & K issue, this Pakistani programme, aired yesterday, should be an eye-opener:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GEBgFgYlHo

This highly recommended ground report clearly explains why Pakistan wants to covet J & K, how it wants to exploit its economic resources, & how the systematic disenfranchisement of the inhabitants of PoK, especially since 1974, today makes India’s J & K a paradise when compared to the hell-hole that is PoK today. Any Indian information warfare official should exploit the contents of this programme from all possible angles. I have already forwarded this programme to the Office of the NSA in the Indian PMO.

Meanwhile, whining continues against the Chah Bahar FTIZ project. First, it was being said that India is isolating Pakistan. Today it is the US & Iran that have joined India in isolating Pakistan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCIAYmEdV2o

And there are growing calls for Pakistani retaliation against the US, since Pakistan is a nuclear WMD-armed country. Will this mean Pakistan will contemplate terrorist strikes against soft targets inside the US? Or will it, like 1979, set fire to the US Embassy in Islamabad, which is already the world’s largest US diplomatic mission? Will the US then have access to IAF air bases or Indian airports from which to launch emergency evacuation of US diplomatic staff from Islamabad? Will the Pakistan Army in an act of desperation fire a few tactical nuclear weapons in those borderline Afghan provinces housing some 1 lakh Pakistani refugee camps that also house the TTP fighters? Will this be the beginning of the eventual US-led military campaign to de-nuclearise Pakistan? Watch these programmes that call for Pakistani retaliatory strikes against the US:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RS8Gn7ZSlI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtiI7xkpK44

R. Sarath Kumar said...

Prasun Sir, do you think the new Sikorsky CH-53K heavy-lift chopper would find use in any Indian service? Navy or even the supposed Naval Infantry force when it comes?

Thank you in advance, Sir.
Sarath Kumar R.

Gessler said...

Sir ji, check out this company Bellatrix Aerospace.

http://bellatrixaerospace.com/index.html

What the hell? Where are all the news reporters? What is this? Where have these people been hiding till now?

How come no one told me about this till now??

Garuda? Chetak??

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To GESSLER: LoLz! Don't worry about those fancy names for their conceptual launch vehicles. The only piece of hardware that this company has reportedly developed is the electric thruster motor. Meanwhile, do go through these:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Isro-to-launch-record-22-satellites-in-single-mission-in-June/articleshow/52481212.cms

http://indianexpress.com/article/explained/isro-reusable-launch-vehicle-rlv-rocket-launch-2820965/

Anonymous said...

Dear Arpit Kanodia,

Another video released. Shocking Truth on Onam Festival. Please watch and give yor valuable comments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA4o6mE51Wk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zjlRXi5TEo

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

Arpit Kanodia said...

@Senthil Kumar

I am already done with you, why you suggesting videos from that shit channel? I am no more interested in commenting on that Tamil Supremacy issue.

If you want to call me biased, then yes I am. I am all in favor for history and truth, but that is not truth but some propaganda. So, keep those brainwashing videos to yourself.

So, Thank You but no Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Gaurav tripura
Hi prasun da.feels good to back in your blog .want to say something about our RM manohar parikkar.seems he is following AK antonys footsteps
He has cancelled more deals then what he has signed.recently torpedo deal.at end our armed forces suffer.even we cant get a decent rifle for our army.many say parikkar is able administrator.but i think he thinks too much and does little.replacement needed

I have few questions for you
1) the new buzz about a new MMRCA to be selected this year under make in India.What you think will be selected?logic says rafale should be.but its expensive.so will it be F18 or even gripen?
2) media news recently says spike missile selected for indian army with tot to be made in India.so is it the end of javelin? How many spike missiled will be bought
3) there is slso news that Antonov 178 will be selected by HAL forIAF and also comercial airliner.is it true?

Plz plz reply tonight

Dushyant hardaha said...

http://idrw.org/parrikar-comments-creates-buzz-f-18-offer/
sir
why RM Mr parrikar is creating confusion over rafale deal?

Nirodh said...

An Interview with the PARIAH-Kar (sorry for borrowing this name)
Q. So why did you come to Delhi?
P. I didn't come to Delhi I was summoned because I was a Go-er.
Q. In defence matters you have not gone anywhere; like a game of poker each time someone is about to show their hand you say you got trumps...
P. I don't know - I always like to Poke journos.
Q. People say AKA was a fool but you are full of IIT (pron eat, meaning "it")
P. No comments. In my tenure there are more launches and activities outside the veshti is all I can point to.
Q. PKS thinks as a RM all you are good at is your own AthmoRaksha in lieu of desh suraksha.
P. who is he? I don't have friends I make Pariahs hence am Pariah Kar.
Q. There is no proof AW paid any Indians. Why claim the deal dirty when you got no proof?
P. Because you can't see doesn't mean there are no ghosts. Ask anyone they are not willing to sleep in a haunted house or by a graveyard. No one can definitively prove or disprove the existence of ghosts. That's all no more qs. I have to test DRDOs new anal ramjet - a lot of crap has built up you know...

Gopu said...

@Arpit

I have a fairly simple argument for you. Almost all of modern engineering relies on the typical "equations of Newton" (classical mechanics/electrodynamics). The only major technology that relies on advanced physics is probably semiconductor fabrication, where QM explains doping. There is no scope for altering gravitational fields under the classical mechanics paradigm. So how exactly do aerospace firms somehow recruit genius physicists that have more knowledge than published academia?

@Prasun

In your reply to Paralay, are there reconnaissance measures to tell if the TBM/IRBMs are conventional or nuclear? If so, what is there to do about the nuclear-tipped TBM/IRBMs? Just wait for the Ruskies S-400?

And check this out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAsTC39niug

birbal said...

@ Nirodh

Well TRIED...Keep it up.....

By the way do you have any FLAVOURED ones...or DOTTED ones OR is it the PLAIN Old simple ones.. you know people LOVE Flavors nowadays with an EXTRA edge of....I personally love the CHOCOLATE Flavor with an edge of...do you have any!!? If Yes send it to this Address- SUNNY on the LawNE @ Red Swastik opposite MOODS...

Arpit Kanodia said...

@Gopu This type of thinking only exist in India, not in countries like US. Thats why India reinventing the wheel, and why US doing groundbreaking discoveries since 1880.

And if our CBSE's 11th,12th Physics books not teaching about breakdown of current understanding of Gravity, then it doesnt means it dont exist.

Why you think why we need dark matter in first place, if gravity working fine?

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2013/11/our-understanding-of-gravity-is-fundamentally-wrong-two-conflicting-theories-of-the-universe.html

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/blogs/physics/2012/05/whats-the-matter-with-gravity/

And how you know Skunk Works or Phantom Works not working engineering challenge on such? Did the US notified world before working on A-Bomb? Did they notified before working on Have Blue Project? Did they notified before working on scramjet of SR-72?

No? So why they do this time?

The question is why we still teaching and using Newtonian Explanation , when this is proven beyond fact that Newtonian Explanation is no more valid in curved space time? Even in case Einstein was wrong about standstill and static Universe?

Then your other question would be, why we not feeling anti gravity on stellar or planetary scale, the reasons is simple the doublings of Universe are not enough that we measure there effect on Planetary scale. But on galactic scale it already working since last 4 billion years.

Prav said...

According to leaks it seems that GRSE has failed the post qualification criteria . Hyundai seems poised to win it. The whole tender did seem too good to be true.

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun,

Many People are talking about Newton Law, Gravity etc and all this are invented by so called US & Western people.

Truth is most of the thesis are stolen from India. Please go through this link and give your Valuable comments.

Why I am asking you, many users in this forums are not ready to accept some truth.

http://ajitvadakayil.blogspot.qa/2011/01/isaac-newton-calculus-thief-capt-ajit.html

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

Kaustav said...

Aahaa...the multi strand DNA attack

aniz said...

dear prasun,

one of the major reasons i feel corruption is rampant in indian bureaucracy is lack of information the general public have regarding procedures and policies.so we are at the mercy of the babus who will come out with last minute request for paperwork. i live in uk , if i am submitting or applying anything for government , all the information on how to go about is present in clear format in gov.co.uk websites. as you are in touch with our government policy makers would suggest you advice our government if they are serious about reducing corruption, they should come out with dedicated govt portals clearly listing the rules and procedures on how to go about doing things which will be really helpful no last minute paperwork request.

its based on my personal experiences in dealing with local officials who wont give informaton until their palms have been greased. the charity starts at home , i always wonder if hard working citizens have knowledge of information on bureaucratic procedures. there is slight chance of corruption reduced.

comming to back to defence related issues, one of the weakness of indigneous products having a bad rep in india is due to lack of awareness in the print media, if US companies are making a product they actively propagate their products in movies, documentaries involving veterans testing the product and slick production values.
whenever i watched coverage of products developed in-house i see clueless reporters asking dumb questions who dont research on the products for eg drdo have developed mciws where the predecessor insas have taken a battering dismissing them as crap, i wish some military background guy turns up to arde test these guns in actual combat conditions and change the perception of people in india on camera . future weapons host Richard "Mack" Machowicz is one prime example where american and global companies involve to promote their products.
at times i wish person of your calibre should go into print media on tv giving out your information rather than some retired armchair general or cluelesss morons who read from cues and reports. i hope that govt agencies like drdo hal cabs open the venues for cameras and actively promote their products with live testing and updates with actual reporting.

i request your views on my ideas.

aniz

Anonymous said...

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/modi-government-to-cancel-all-defence-tenders-bagged-by-finmeccanica-1413195?pfrom=home-topstories

Just stupid action s by Mr Parikkar..How can the govt cancel or blacklist any company when no indian court has convicted the company. This proves Mr Parikkar is another AK Antony and a huge dissapointment. The BJP just played too much politcs with Agusta westland scam..How can one also blacklist the subsidiary company? All those blacklist ted company should drag the Govt in court. Way is if there is a scam impose financial penalty and not blaklist and can cel everything. Again net loser indian armed forces

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Indus-era-8000-years-old-not-5500-ended-because-of-weaker-monsoon/articleshow/52485332.cms

SUJOY MAJUMDAR said...

Prasun Da,

This recently released report suggests that the CIA killed both Lal Bhadur Shastri & Homi Bhabha

http://lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com/pipermail/bitlist/2008-October/000400.html

rad said...

hi prasun
what happens to the selex ranl 40 radar ,? what would be the next best option .THe pics of the new aircraft carrier suggest that there are taking aboard the mfstar radar as well.What would be the damage to the country by banning selex

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To PRAV: It's simple arithmetic, & related to logistics/product support. Just compare the air-connectivity links between India-Manila & South Korea-Manila & you will find out which of the two--India & South Korea--can respond faster & cheaper when it comes to spares supply & adherence to periodic refit schedules.

To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: LoLz! The same tactic was employed to claim that Subhas Chandra Bose was killed in an air-crash when there was no incontrovertible evidence of Bose ever having boarded any flight from Singapore, leave alone land in Vietnam or Taiwan. Even Taiwan has since stated with supporting evidence that no Japanese aircraft had landed in Taipei on the date of this alleged air-crash. But folks can so easily be misled & therefore the debate continues till this day on the air-crash theory, when it is crystal-clear that after the unconditional Japanese surrender in the 2nd week of August 1945, no Japanese military aircraft was safe from hostile interception & forced landing. Furthermore, if Bose wanted to go to Russia by air, then why not from Bangkok itself? Why go all the way down south to Singapore? Was it because it was only in Singapore that the Imperial Japanese Navy had a submarine ready for such an emergency evacuation? After all, while an aircraft can easily be located & tracked while in the air, a submerged submarine is impossible to locate. If I were in Bose's shoes, I would have definitely opted for escape by submarine than by air.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To RAD: Had already explained it all several times before. Existing contracts will be adhered to. Only no new contracts will be inked. That means product-support contracts for 76/62 SRGM & RAN-40L will continue without any hindrance. But yet-to-be-placed contracts with SELEX ES for the Sea King Mk.42B & Ka-28PLs WILL NOT be signed. In other words, a whole new re-tendering exercise will begin. Similarly, the SR-SAM project with MBDA (in which Leonardo Finmeccanica has a stake) will be TERMINATED & that's why DRDO is now jumping & thumping its chest about the Astra Mk.1's suitability for the naval SR-SAM reqmt, which going by the DRDO's performance will be available only after another decade! So, all in all, instead of 'Acche Din', Parrikar & Co have only ushered in 'Bahut Bure Din' for the IN. On top of that, Arun Jaitley refuses to release money for the LW-155/M-777 contract, & continues to play truant with price negotiations for the first 16 S-70B2 Seahawks. In short, indecisive functioning at the apex-level as far as national security goes. Let's hope the forthcoming Union Cabinet reeshuffle ushers in some competent folks. There's speculative talk of Suresh Prabhu becoming the new RM.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ANIZ: The simple fact-of-life is that India has over the years emerged as an 'over-legislated' country, meaning too many contradictory laws & regulations being enforced as the federal- and state-levels. In addition, e-governance has been too slow to arrive. Just go to the Land Records/Deed Transfer Office in Gurgaon & you will experience it yourself. If you're not willing to give under-the-table money, various excuses will be given to you successive times about incomplete paperwork, or about the absence of a signed affidavit or a stamp of authentication etc etc. No one will tell you in one go the checklist that's required for complying with all terms & conditions! On the other hand, if you're willing to pay Rs.25,000 or Rs.60,000 through your lawyer, then you don't even have to go to the office & within 1 working day itself your application will be approved! Everyone in Delhi knows about it, yet no CVC or ED or any other authority will ever clamp down over such practices.

When visiting various military/aerospace expos since the mid-1980s, I have always seen that the pavilions of the UK, US & Israel always host booths of their armed forces as well & they're always on hand to explain the combat-proven characteristics of all the displayed weapons to interested parties. In India's case, there's no one from any of the 3 armed services to support the Indian exhibiting companies, even in expos that are held in India! That's why, while the DRDO exhibits indigenously developed BMCS modules in its pavilion, no one can answer why the Indian Army continues to import BMCS modules by the hundreds of thiusands from Nexter Systems & URENCO. If I want to know more about the LCA MRCA, then obviously a test-pilot will be able to share more convincing data & Points of view than a techie from ADA who has no clue about the MRCA's operational reqmts from an end-user standpoint. Similarly, no one from the IN's Warship Design Directorate or WESEE is ever on hand to support the marketing activities of the DPSU shipyards. In other words, it's all about adopting the right methodology for product marketing. What is now being practiced by the DRDO or OFB or DPSUs at expos abroad is totally wrong & a waste of time.

Anonymous said...

@Prasun da

Reg. Ur comment to RAD that MBDA cotract for SRSAM will be terminated..I dont think so.If this happens then the rafale deal will also be in jeopardy since most weapons in rafale are made by MBDA.I dint think gov can afford to blacklist MBDA. Yes Parikkar is a fool but I still think not toooo folish. Lets see in coming days..But yes he is a big dissapointment and urgent needs to be replaced. He once told that he wont speak to media..But after augusta giving interviews here and there

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To Anon@12.10AM: The deal for MICA AAMs for both Rafale & upgraded Mirage 2000s was negotiated with France's DGA, & not with MBDA. There was no supplementary contract inked with MBDA by the Indian MoD. They are not the same as the agreement between DRDO & MBDA for the SR-SAM. Now even the PARS-3LR ATGMs for Rudra & LCH too won't be procured. Only the earlier contract for Mistral ATAMs will be adhered to & remain operational. The Mistral VSHORADS too will henceforth not be considered for procurement.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Here are Parrikar’s Interviews:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4WWqJRtG6A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sPOwFr0Dy_M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pvqC4cbTgkk

In any case, his interviews can’t be taken seriously as he isn’t the one responsible for the military defence of India. The Defence Secretary is, as per the Govt of India’s Rules of Business Regulations.

youngbengal said...

Here is another evidence of probable existence of dark matter

http://www.gizmodo.in/science/New-Evidence-Suggests-a-Fifth-Fundamental-Force-of-Nature/articleshow/52453522.cms

Arpit Kanodia said...

I want to ask from Lord Shiva, maybe Senthil Kumar help us to bring our voices to him. Lol

Why giving such moron RM to India, one after another. Why not to China or Pakistan? Are our Karma are such bad?

And these leaders call themselves as nationalist, what a great nationalist leaders we have that think only about supreme personal interests.

Anonymous said...

@Arpit Kanodia & PRASUN DA

I think instead on scratching our head here , we should get public attention to the fact that Parikkar is a fool and what he is doing is going to des troy the defecnce preparedness.we all know what will happen if all these tenders are really canecled. We should get PM s attendtion here. I dont know but thinking of wrtiting on BJP s FB page which is NOW flooded with its 2 year ceremony pics or write to PMO. ,May be Prasun da can suggest few ideas?

Somebody has to try to stop this nonsence. Only in public outrage govt rethinks...I am a BJP suporter but now let down by this parikkar.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To Anon@2.39AM: The ability to think matters through rationally gets blurred & dysfunctional whenever one becomes arrogant. Consequently, Sonia Gandhi & her 'Pappu Yuvraj' are now at the receiving end because they had courted first-blood by coining the term 'Maut ka Saudaagar' at a time when there was no material evidence to substantiate such a claim; while the BJP's various spokespersons who appear on TV proclaiming that the BJP can never do any wrong & it is impossible to see BJP leaders engaging in corruption are now depicting themselves only as frogs lurking somewhere in a bottomless abyss. Such regressive & destructive tendencies are only to be found in societies that relentlessly engage in Hero Worship. The direct consequence of this is that there's no room for rationality. Thus, while these present-day ruling 'desi' politicians yell that the days of retrospective taxation are long gone, those foreigners & local industry big-wigs ask only 1 simple, commonsensical question: if those days are indeed gone, then why not the repeal or abrogate the Retrospective Tax legislation? Does it make sense to make claims that are not supported by law or legislation? Such claims only make fools out the present-day decision-makers, who it seems are determined to insult the intelligence of the average Indian citizen by claiming that only these leaders are blessed with all-knowing wisdom. And we all saw such 'wisdom' in full-play in Parliament earlier this month when all that Parrikar did was reproduce the CAG report on the AW-101 deal, instead of coming up with his own White Paper. And now the ED's investigations into the financial trail has uncovered only what I had stated earlier about fudhing in the industrial offsets clauses, & no financial trail leading to the former CAS of the IAF. Here, watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVIdldp67PM

Now, are any of those BJP-origin/BJP-affiliated BASTARDS/TRAITORS willing to offer an official apology to the IAF? I can bet there's no 'Maii ka Laal' with balls within the BJP now who can admit his/her mistake & apologise. They can at best only excel in enacting tamaashas & are Class A Nautankis. But, since what goes around, comes around, rest assured that these BASTARDS will soon face payback-time.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ARPIT KANODIA: Here's the complete 3-part ground report from PoK about the abysmal state of affairs there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GEBgFgYlHo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdqYRU5QLaA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux63xIlenck

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

And here’s a 2-part report on a press junket organised by China in support of the CPEC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBsw8HxQLEg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu3dJC04G2s

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ARPIT KANODIA: RE Lord Shiva, I deeply regret to inform you (LoLz!) that immediately after the immersion of Kumari Kandam in the Indian Ocean due to the meltdown after the ice-age, HRH Lord Shiva swore NEVER again to seek abode in a flat landmass & therefore he leapfrogged straight--bypassing the Indian subcontinent--into a high-altitude area that's now known as Mount Kailash which now happens to be inside the territory of PRC. His real-estate investments are apparently safer there. So, it can thus be inferred that HRH Lord Shiva has foresaken India for good, while the present-day GPS coordinates for HRH Lord Vishnu & HRH Lord Brahma remain unknown. And although the Chinese Communists remain atheists, they nevertheless are more than happy to make money out of those guilt-ridden Indians who wish to travel through Uttarakhand & Sikkim to visit Ngari-Gunsa & delude themselves into washing away all their accumulated sins in Lake Mansarovar.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Excellent short debate on Pakistan's Double-Dealing WRT Afghanistan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4e-w9iHmdI

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun,


http://ajitvadakayil.blogspot.qa/2011/01/isaac-newton-calculus-thief-capt-ajit.html

Please .....Please give your comments from the above link. I am 100% sure all our knowledge are stolen by the European thives.

Human History's biggest thief is "Sir Issac Newton".


Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

birbal said...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ARPIT KANODIA: RE Lord Shiva, I deeply regret to inform you (LoLz!) that immediately after the immersion of Kumari Kandam in the Indian Ocean due to the meltdown after the ice-age, HRH Lord Shiva swore NEVER again to seek abode in a flat landmass & therefore he leapfrogged straight--bypassing the Indian subcontinent--into a high-altitude area that's now known as Mount Kailash which now happens to be inside the territory of PRC. His real-estate investments are apparently safer there. So, it can thus be inferred that HRH Lord Shiva has foresaken India for good, while the present-day GPS coordinates for HRH Lord Vishnu & HRH Lord Brahma remain unknown....HAHAHA....JOKE of the day..


" And although the Chinese Communists remain atheists, they nevertheless are more than happy to make money out of those guilt-ridden Indians who wish to travel through Uttarakhand & Sikkim to visit Ngari-Gunsa & delude themselves into washing away all their accumulated sins in Lake Mansarovar....hahaha

birbal said...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

......all in all, instead of 'Acche Din', Parrikar & Co have only ushered in 'Bahut Bure Din' for the IN....haha..wuwuwu..:)/:(..hachu ya royu kuch samajh me nahi aa raha, ab aaplogo hi baatayiye dostoon kya karo..

" On top of that, Arun Jaitley refuses to release money ....In short, indecisive functioning at the apex-level as far as national security goes. Let's hope the forthcoming Union Cabinet reeshuffle ushers in some competent folks. There's speculative talk of Suresh Prabhu becoming the new RM."

Ab PRABHU hi BACHA sakte hai hame is SANKAT se....jaha Prabhu hai waha HOPE hai.... bolo bhaiyyo Bharat Mata ki jay..

birbal said...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ANIZ: The simple fact-of-life is that India has over the years emerged as an 'over-legislated' country, meaning too many contradictory laws & regulations being enforced as the federal- and state-levels. .... then you don't even have to go to the office & within 1 working day itself your application will be approved! Everyone in Delhi knows about it, yet no CVC or ED or any other authority will ever clamp down over such practices.

It HAPPENS only in India.....kuch to karna parega na dostoon....kya kyaa jayyen???
MILLION DOLLAR question!!!..Kuch aisa karna parega dostoon ki SAAP bhi MARE aur LAATHI bhi na TOOTE, par Kaise??? Remember Mark Antony... OR the Willy and CUNNING hamare Priya Naradmuni...Narayan Narayan, even if mythological...ya phir Mahes.....

Unknown said...

http://m.timesofindia.com/city/madurai/Harappa-like-site-surfaces-in-Tamil-Nadu/articleshow/52495353.cms

birbal said...

Human History's biggest thief is "Sir Issac Newton".

toh kya hum itne saalo se, Kitaabo mein ek CHOR ki LEEKHAYE parh rahe thein..ek Chor ke FORMULE par Atom Bomb bana diya!!! Bhai mujhe bhi banna hai aicha chor...:)

Iska toh pata nahin, par yeh JAROOR pata hein ki HMLAGOO ka ek DHANI Itihaas hein...
RIGVEDAS, Atharvavedas, Ayurvedas...and much more and we are PROUD of that..

birbal said...

Hey Sudipta that's a Really CUTTTEEE photo of yours....Please Love me i am sooo INNOCENT..

birbal said...

ek Chor ke FORMULE par Atom Bomb bana diya!!!

GALTI ho gaya, Galti toh INSAANoo se hoti hai na aur mai toh Insaan hoo...mera matlab tha ki kya ek CHOR ke Upar ek APPLE gir gaya tha....aur ek Chor ke FORMULE par hamare Rockets, Missiles,....hamare ISRO ke PSLV, GSLV ya phir BHabisya me aane wale ISRO ke RLV Chalte hain, toh phir bhai mujhe bhi banna hai aicha Chor..:)

Arpit Kanodia said...

Lol, @birbal if that chor able to make interpretation of that into scientific studies. While Bharatwasis scratching there heads from centuries, "wtf that means maybe exotic magic". And thinking of someday god come to earth in there vimana, while Wright Brothers tried to copy this. The reason is also same why Wright Brothers tried to copy this and not Kumar Brothers.

Then these chors were wonderful, we need chors like Newton, Edison, Tesla, Einsteinn , Schrƶdinger, Dirac etc.

But problem is we find our great scientists and discovering or by Vedas or in APJ Abdul Kalam, while people like Stayendra Nath Bose is totally forgotten in India. Maybe because he was also chor and APJ Abdul Kalam did some really groundbreaking discoveries. LMAO.

Arpit Kanodia said...

BTW, India is also chor by copying the engineering products like Rockets, combustible engine, robotics, nanotech, medicine, jet engine, radars, sonars etc etc.

The list is so long.

Anonymous said...

Dear Birbal,

"And thinking of someday god come to earth in there vimana, while Wright Brothers tried to copy this. The reason is also same why Wright Brothers tried to copy this and not Kumar Brothers".

I know the reason why Wright Brothers tried to copy and not Kumar Brothers.

Because last 2000 years Jews/Aryans/Nomads entered India. They called themselves as "GOD CHOOSEN PEOPLE". And they Implement the same idea called as Manu Dharma (Brahmins born in Head ...Sudras in leg) and put down the native people like Kumar brothers for 2000 years and called themselves as Upper caste and others as lower caste or dalits or untouchable. They denied education for 2000 years. That is the reason Kumar brothers cannot do aeroplane.

They destroyed/manipulated all the scripts and give Fairy tales about Hinduism and they ruled. Now After independence, Kumar Brothers start to look their past and coming out with the truths which many even in India cannot Digest the truth and still they praise their western Masters.

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

Anonymous said...


Dear Birbal,

There are lots of CHORS in India which will harm Indian interest. It is not lack of talent or education in India.

Forget about Moraji Desai, Chors like Vajpayee are in decision making process. That’s why India cannot do anything. Please see below...

“In 1979, as Chairman of India's Joint Intelligence Committee, Subrahmanyam authored a Cabinet note arguing for the resumption of India's nuclear weapons programme. The programme had been shut down in 1977 by Prime Minister Morarji Desai on his assuming office, largely on account of seeking to return to India's pacifist foreign policy roots. Subrahmanyam's note was prompted by Indian Intelligence's latest estimates of progress in China and Pakistan's nuclear programmes. It was discussed and shot down in a Cabinet meeting, principally by Morarji Desai and Atal Bihari Vajpayee, then India's External Affairs Minister.[57] Ironically, Vajpayee would go on to immediately authorise the 'Shakti' series of nuclear weapons tests on becoming Prime Minister in March 1998”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._Subrahmanyam

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

birbal said...

Arpit Kanodia said...

...if that chor able to make interpretation of that into scientific studies." VERY IMPORTANT part.

Then these chors were wonderful, we need chors like Newton, Edison, Tesla, Einsteinn , Schrƶdinger, Dirac etc....hahaha

" But problem is we find our great scientists and discovering or by Vedas or in APJ Abdul Kalam, while people like Stayendra Nath Bose is totally forgotten in India. "
Why only Satyendra Nath Bose, Ramanujan, CV Raman, Sushruta the FATHER of Indian Surgery, Aryabhatta, the inventor of ZERO and PIE...i think people have FORGOTTEN them also...i also think people don't remember the name of our first satellite which is named after the Great Aryabhatta...SAD but TRUE...we should be PROUD of our RICH history and WORK towards glorifying it....

birbal said...

S.Senthil Kumar said

Because last 2000 years Jews/Aryans/Nomads entered India. They called themselves as "GOD CHOOSEN PEOPLE". .......which many even in India cannot Digest the truth and still they praise their western Masters.
To be honest i have little information about it....BUT it's a TRUTH that we glorify the NEWTONS, the EINSTEINs.....in our books but no name, forget about the WORKS of our own scientists like JC Bose, Ramanujan, .....SAD but TRUE....
I think Prasunda had written a lot about the state of REAL Research & Development in India & there is simply no environment for RESEARCH in India...he once told there were about 6000 PhD scholars in a tiny country like Israel alone, how many are in India???....INCREDIBLE India...that's why i said It happens only in India....Relax and have a NICE time.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/manohar-parrikar-agustawestland-chopper-deal-fallout-finmeccanica-out-cloud-over-defence-pacts-2825108/

Now the GPS-guided terminal seekers for Pinaka-1/2 rockets too will be banned. As it is OFB is crying that instead of 6,000 rounds per year, only 1,000 rounds of rockets have been ordered. And since Alenia-Aermacchi (a member of the Airbus Military Aircraft consortium) too is a subsidiary of Leonardo Finmeccanica, one can bid goodbye to the C-295 as well.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To S SENTHIL KUMAR: LoLz! If they were 'Stolen', then they cannot be said to reside in India anymore! In reality, such theorems & discoveries were definitely studied in medieval Europe for purposes of corroboration, but it also remains a fact that all these discoveries were brought to light by European Indologists & archaeologists themselves, because the native Indians had almost forgotten all about this rich heritage. In short, instead of accusing others of stealing, we should blame ourselves for forgetting all these ancient discoveries & sleeping over them until the arrival of the European colonisers.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Yet another example of how India’s pathetic politicians never tire of shaming their own country:


For the past 4 gruelling years India’s Judiciary/MEA/PMO could not solve a maritime case. Now ITLOS (International Tribunal of the Laws of Sea), which handles UN Convention on Laws of the Seas disputes (UNCLOS 1982 and India is signatory), has issued. “Interim Directions” by President President Judge Vladimir Golitsyn. Interestingly, India’s Asst Attorney General Harish Rawal in Supreme Court in 2013 admitted that India did not have jurisdiction but he was removed. Italy even requested the NDA Government to resolve the issue diplomatically. Italy ultimately went to ITLOS in 2015 & has now won the case. Last week India’s Supreme Court had ruled that Salvatore Girone was free to go home at least until Italy’s dispute with India over jurisdiction in the Italian Marine case was ruled by ITLOS. Italian Defence Minister Roberta Pinotti embraced the uniformed Girone when he arrived at Rome’s Ciampino airport. He was also greeted by the Foreign Minister, the Navy’s Chief and relatives. On February 15, 2012 at around 4pm, armed Italian Marines, Latorre Massimiliano and Girone were on Italian Parliament-approved governmental and IMO-permitted anti piracy duty on board Italian flagged tanker MV Enrica Lexie 21 miles off Quilon (by GPS), on an innocent northerly passage to the Middle East in International waters (when intercepted after the killing of two Malyali fishermen Valentine Jalastine and Ajesh Binki whose families have been compensated with Blood Money and have dropped charges). News reached Quilon Police. As per UNCLOS regulations, all seas beyond the territorial waters of 12nm are “high seas”, under the jurisdiction of the Flag State of the ship applies in this case. Hence Enrica was in International waters, and Enrica was subject to the jurisdiction of Italy.

Cont'd below...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

The explanation in UNCLOS 1982 Art 97, states the seas beyond territorial for jurisdiction over the navigational and collision incidents lies with the ‘Flag State’(in this case Italy) and reads “causing loss of life or serious injury to nationals of another State or serious damage to ships or installations of another State or to the marine environment articles, 94(7), 97 and 58 of UNCLOS. The case to IDF mind ultimately hinges on Jurisdiction—India’s which is secondary or Italian which is primary for trial. If Italy loses the case in India with heavy punishment on the two marines, then it could go to the ICJ, and lawyer Harish Salve representing Italy in arguments for Italy warned in Supreme Court before Justice Kabir, argued that India would lose in ICJ. Indian Coast Guard at Cochin was alerted from Quilon Police of death of two Indian fishermen killed by a ship and it subsequently intercepted Enrica and ordered her to Cochin as she was heading North. Enrica anchored off Cochin. Thus began the ITALIAN MARINE DRAMA by people who do not know UNCLOS 1982 but only CrPc, & they slapped murder charges and the then RM Antony saw elections coming up and it became an MoD issue to please Kerala and Antony. The ICGS washed its hands off after the MoD took over and A K Antony under public pressure decided to punish the Italian Marines under CrPc/IPC. Since August 10, 2015 India and Italy completed submissions in ITLOS. The NIA was tasked to frame charges, but this was never done nor a Special Court made. French lawyer Alain Pellet, R Bundy, Additional Solicitor General P L Narasimha, and MEA/Home Ministry and a team represented India at great cost. Ministry of Earth Sciences now handles UNCLOS issues. MEA Legal and Treaties Wing crafted a retrospective law like for Vodafone Tax now challenged in arbitration, to punish the Marines, but India’s Parliament never passed it. THE CASE NOW WILL GET A FINAL RULING AND INDIA WILL LOSE JURISDICTION over the case.

VIKRAM GUHA said...

PrasunDa,

Previously you had explained that the fire control software on the SUBTICS CMS units of the Scorpene submarines will have to be modified so that it is compatible with the F-21 torpedo.

(1) 6 of the Scorpene class Kalavari submarines are being made at the MDL. Will the fire control software on the SUBTICS CMS units of all these 6 subs be upgraded, so that they can fire the F-21 torpedo?

(2) Will the Australian Navy also be using the F-21 torpedoes for their Barracuda submarines?

(3) Saab and Reliance are working together in developing the next generation Combat Management System for the Indian Navy and Coast Guard. In which ships will we see this CMS & what will be the role of Reliance?

Thanks,

VIKRAM

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To VIKRAM GUHA: 1) ALL 6 units of SUBTICS' torpedo fire-control components will have to be reprogrammed. 2) RAN's Shortfin Barracuda SSKs WILL NOT have SUBTICS CMS. They will have CMS of US-origin, probably from Rockwell-Collins or Lockheed Martin. Therefore, the HWTs of these SSKs will also be of US-origin, i.e. Honeywell's Mk.48 ADCAP HWTs. 3) These are for the SW-ASW vessels & NGMVs.

Pinkal Shah said...

Dear Sir,

Greetings of the day!!

Thanks for your reply.

But still want to know whether there should any black projects exits for Russian or erstwhile USSR in response to US black projects.

Also eagerly waiting for your rebuttal on Dr. Ashley Tellis papper on IAF Air Power and additional information on Black Star SSTO as well as Flux-Liner ARV.

Thanking you in anticipation,

Regards
Pinkal Shah

VIKRAM GUHA said...

Thank You PrasunDa.

(1)So with Finmeccanica banned the SAM system for the Kamorta class corvettes will also have to be procured from a different vendor. Any thoughts which vendors might be interested?

(2) I suspect that the Kamov-28 ASW helos will suffer because not too many Western vendors make avionics that suite Russian helos. Do you think IN will be successful in finding a new vendor?

(3) You had said that the cost of upgrading the fire control unit of the CMS units of the Scorpene subs will be $30 million. Does this mean $5 million per submarine for a total of 6 subs?

(4) Is it possible that SAAB is the front runner to win the IN's contract for the NGMV?

Thanks again

VIKRAM

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To VIKRAM GUHA: 1) The Barak-1 is always available. 2) A team of IAI & ELBIT is the most likely default winner now. IAI also is the only OEM apart from SELEX ES that produces AESA-based MMRs for both helicopters & UAVs. 3) Yes. 4) Too early to say. The Russians & French remain in the fray. But the Visby-derived design is the most modular of them all, & can therefore be configured as both NGMV (most probably with the Kongsberg NSM missile that is also available as HSM for the to-be-upgraded Sea King Mk.42Bs & Ka-28PLs & the yet-to-be-procured S-70B Seahawks), as well as SW ASW vessel that will have an on-board helicopter deck for LUH, as well as towed-array active/passive VLF sonars like the ACTAS from ATLAS Elektronik.

To PINKAL SHAH: VMT. Will explain all about Russian black projects in the forthcoming new thread.

Anonymous said...

@Vikram

Lets not jump of to full conclusions now. Parikkar has given a statement .He has given many such earlier also and many were contradictory. Lets wait for the official confirmation from Govt. Pls be aware that a cabinet reshuffle is to happen in next months(likely) and if it happens there are enough feelers that parikar will be out. Modi should not have called him in from Goa in first place...Lets hope that Govt does not make same mistakes as AK Antony maid

Arpit Kanodia said...

Thats eye opening from Asma Jahangir

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0MwekzwY3w

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar on Monday criticised judiciary claiming that some of the directives given by it are "senseless" and "without any scientific basis". "Senseless directions are being given without any scientific basis. Some people who do not understand science have begun interpreting it," he said while speaking at a public function here. "I was reading a report about Mercedes Benz company. They have stopped investment in India because they say the decisions of the court are beyond the limit of understanding. (They say) we don't understand the logic of banning diesel vehicles. "We understand that you can ban diesel vehicles which are polluting but what is the point in banning a diesel vehicle which may not pollute or be less polluting than the petrol vehicle," Parrikar said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Some-of-judiciarys-directives-senseless-Manohar-Parrikar/articleshow/52508498.cms

While the RM makes a valid point, he should at the same time also acknowledge that the same logic & principle applies to the selection of a 3-engined helicopter over a twin-engined one. One cannot pick-and-choose examples & be economical with logic.

Subho said...

@ Anonymous 1:41 AM
Mr. Jaitley needs to be replaced more urgently than M/P. He needs to vacate in favour of Jayant Sinha. Contrary to views expressed by Prasun and others on this forum I am of the opinion that Parrikar is doing a fine job and needs to stay at the helm longer.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SUBHO: LoLz! Care to elaborate in a report-card or bullet-form format what exactly Parrikar's achievements have been to date? Do you know why the DPP has yet to emerge, for starters? Do you know why the CII, ASSOCHAM & FICCI are at loggerheads with the MoD's bureaucracy WRT the issue of Strategic Partnerships? The list goes on & on, but I'd rather wait for your elaborations in favour of Parrikar & then respond in detail.

Subho said...

Prasun, I wanted to clarify a couple of things that have been misquoted here. Finmeccanica- the parent of Alenia has no stake whatsoever in Airbus Defence & Space. Finmeccanica is a partner in the Eurofighter consortium (Eurofighter GMBH) which is a external collaboration between BAE, Airbus & Alenia (now Finmeccanica). So as far the C-295 is concerned there is no issue.

Also Finmeccanica is in the process of offloading its 25% stake in MBDA to its partners BAE and/or Airbus D&S. So, I don;t see that being an issue either.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Meanwhile, another scandal has hit the billboards!!! Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4qsCA-YQqk

This is the company now in the eye of the storm:

http://www.ois-at.com/

http://www.ois-aerospace.com/

This is a rather shady outfit, much like what the UK-based Chaudhary brothers tried to do since the late 1990s with certain Israeli UAV manufacturers. This company portrays itself as an OEM when, in reality it is only the country representative for products of UK origin. For instance:

http://www.ois-at.com/products/3d-bird-detection-and-monitoring-radar-systembdmrs/

http://www.ois-at.com/products/bird-deterrence-systems/

It even has the gall to call itself an OEM through its fraudalent press-releases, such as these:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ois-at-enters-into-strategic-partnership-with-ism-uk-as-oem-of-integrated-command--control-display-systems-in-india-243742291.html

http://businesswireindia.com/news/news-details/ois-advanced-technology-samp-announce-joint-venture-manufacturing-research-development-india/47988

http://businesswireindia.com/news/news-details/ois-advanced-technology-ois-at-sagem-announcemake-in-india-joint-venture-collaboration-aasm-hammer/48246

Like I had stated before, a full-fledged operation is now afoot to split the Indian National Congress party by hook-or-by-crook by directly isolating Senora Sonia Gandhi & her 'Pappu' Yuvraj & 'Bablu' Damaad & making them the prime accused in corruption cases. This will relentlessly carry on until an open revolt erupts within the Congress & the majority of the party card-holders insist that in order to save the party, the Senora along with her Pappu must be thrown out of the party. Bablu will only end up as the collateral casualty. Only time will tell when this happens.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SUBHO: Do go through the details of the Govt of India gazette of April 29, 2016 officially notifying everyone about the blacklisting of Leonardo Finmeccanica & the terms & conditions of the blacklisting. As for MBDA, Parrikar obviously could not wait for Leonardo Finmeccanica to offload its shares into MBDA & therefore as of April 29, 2016 MBDA won’t be eligible to independently bid for any Indian MoD contract. It is immaterial what you or I may THINK or speculate about.

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun,

I accept your explanation. Actually we Indians forget all the past discoveries & heritage. This started to happen since last 2000 years because of the invaders who destroyed our inventions and heritage and put us in slavery.

Now it is the time to relook back our past heritage and discoveries and start to do real research.

That's why I told we need to start our work from God Shiva. Immediately some of our forum members criticized me and ask question Do Human Civilization started from 1956 once after Tamil Nadu created?

First of all Indians should start to Respect other Indians. Listen what they say and if you disagree give your arguments in decent way.

I am sure Indians can come up & succeed. First they should comeout from slavery mind.

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

Anonymous said...

Hi Prasun,

Half of INS Kalvari is in red color why so? is this red part not covered with anechoic tiles? And why is that the submarine appears as though it is close to retirement?

Best Regards
Raj

Anonymous said...

Dear Arpit Kanodia,

“BTW, India is also chor by copying the engineering products like Rockets, combustible engine, robotics, nanotech, medicine, jet engine, radars, sonars etc etc.”

India never said these are invented by Indians. These are applications which every country manufactures. But all the basic maths, theorems, formulas are copied from Indians by Europeans. But they told to the world that they invented all this. That is the problem.

Do you know Sugar was in usage in India during Alexander times?. Actually all the basic machineries are invented and used for past 5000 years by Indians. Iron, bronze, copper etc.

This useless Europeans from 1300 AD they went to many counties stole the idea and claim they did it and people like you will support them.

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

RAT said...

@ S.Senthil Kumar
You have posted so many links of blogs that state that these technologies existed in India (South India to be more precise) then how come India never developed any of cutting edge technologies (research on Raman effect is getting conducted in US and not in India). Calling one superior than the others is a disgrace to the Almighty (even Shiva/Vishnu would not like it) still all elections held in Tamil Nadu (or anywhere in India) are based on religious equations even Brahmans have upper and lower between them(that's human ego). All the information that you have provided only gives inputs of science of ancient India was theory there is no information of Science in Practicals and definitely not in improvements its like "we have discovered the technology to fly Oh! Darn its to very advanced for the common Indian to understand lets wait for US to teach them first". Don't develop an Ego based on some past books. Starting living in the present and work towards the future or you will become same ignorant idiot that had lost the country to foreign invaders and same sort of mentality till date has produced nothing but just filled the pockets of foreign companies (this mentality includes every one all the so call religious intellects, politician, bureaucrats and so called ancient scientist) simply put "ą¤šą¤¶्ą¤®ा ą¤¹ą¤Ÿा ą¤¦ुą¤Øिą¤Æ़ ą¤¦ेą¤–"

birbal said...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Like I had stated before, a full-fledged operation is now afoot to ....isolating Senora Sonia Gandhi & her 'Pappu' Yuvraj & 'Bablu' Damaad & making them the prime accused in corruption cases......the Senora along with her Pappu must be thrown out of the party. Bablu will only end up as the collateral casualty. Only time will tell when this happens.

HAHAHA....Bechari Senora, kaha jaayegi woh...Sasural se DHAKKE Marke neekal diya jaayega aur saayad Maike bhi nahi ja sakega...aur Pappu Bechara ANATH ho jaayega... aur Bablu saayad shochega meri GALTI kya hai!!....:)



birbal said...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SUBHO: Do go through the details of the Govt of India gazette of April 29, 2016 ......MBDA won’t be eligible to independently bid for any Indian MoD contract. It is immaterial what you or I may THINK or speculate about.

Isiliye toh bola, na hamare, na Subho aapke, na Prasunda ke chahne aur nahi kisi aur ke CHAHNE par kuch hota hai, Wohi hota hai joh Manjure Khuda nahi, Kurchi pe joh baithe hue hai jaise ki hamare Pyare Pariah-kar sahab unhi ke chahne par SAB hota hai.

Anonymous said...

Dear Rat,

I am not claiming anything by self-ego of Indians. What I am saying all these thesis, maths, knowledge existed in Ancient India.

This is copied by west & they further developed & used in various applications.
I accept India lost the glory because of various reasons. But West SHOULD NOT PREACH to the world that all are their inventions. (Morally they should accept that they took from India most of the things)

J.C. Bose was the inventer of Radio. But Who got the Nobel Prize. Now you can understand west mentality.

http://web.mit.edu/varun_ag/www/bose_real_inventor.pdf

You should know west is doing research past 500 to 600 years. India started modern day research last 50 years only. Please wait Indians will catchup. Gap is coming down.

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

G said...

Seeing the Knee Jerk reaction of RM , very sad indeed

The question now comes , if actually Re-tendering will be done OR the L2 of each tender will be taken - if the latter, then this itself a conspiracy , as maybe the L2 made the RM to blacklist , to favor them i.e someone other than the L2 is benefiting from all this!.

Sadly our defence preparedness suffers

ARH93 said...

Prasun da I just found out that Australian submarine matters blog reposting your April 15 2016 under-sea-webs post as a 4 part series.

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun,

http://www.dawn.com/news/1261792/trade-route-linking-chabahar-port-with-afghanistan-a-security-threat

Chabahar Port is a security threat for Pakistan. Pakistan is slowly waking up to reality. Pakistan feels threated that their strategic depth Afghanistan is going out of their hands.

Can we expect some ISI-JEM-LET sponsored terrorism in Chabahar Port area?

Please comment.

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To G: Well, Parrikar's headaches have just increased & so has tghe IN's. Read this:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Chopper-scam-Finmeccanica-threatens-to-reconsider-ongoing-projects-in-India/articleshow/52523063.cms

Meanwhile, additional data is emerging on OIS:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/who-is-sanjay-bhandari/listshow/52521855.cms

To S. SENTHIL KUMAR: Not just Chah Bahar, but it now seems even China is emerging as a threat to the religious theocracy of Pakistan:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/Jamaat-ud-Dawa-chief-Hafiz-Saeed-rejects-Beijings-call-to-prevent-practice-of-Islam-in-China/articleshow/52514754.cms

To GESSLER: Very good news for Andhra Pradesh:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Westinghouse-to-relocate-planned-nuclear-plant-to-Andhra-Pradesh-officials-say/articleshow/52519958.cms

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To G: Here's the official statement from Leonardo Finmeccanica:

http://www.leonardocompany.com/en/-/india-1

Anonymous said...

HTT-40 first flight video ....

https://twitter.com/BahadurManmohan/status/737539284241022981

Anonymous said...

@Prasun da

Good that Finamecanica has released thier official statement. Now Parikkar should realize the cost of putting foot into own mouth.a problem with Many in BJP..When an investigation is ongoing and yet to reach a court, how can any Govt. do this..just based on Italian court verdict. Not only finameccanica but also the british ambassador has warned now. Parikkar was beating drums which is empty from inside.Even now if parikaar remains adamant then he is to bring doom not only to himself but also national security.. I have a gut feeling that Modi will step in to reach a acceptable solution and will realize that parikkar is not the guy for defence..Banning all these firms will have serious consequences on national security..I understand there are political risks involved by not blacklisting finameccanica. But thats why people chose BJP with such big mandate to take some risks and put country on top

Rajesh Mishra said...

Hafiz Saeed is now facing a Catch-22 situation.

Arpit Kanodia said...

@Senthil Kumar

So, some 1000 years ago, when Aryans or Caucasus invaded ( BTW there is no proof of this, even DNA ) Tamil lands with Bow and Arrow, the Tamil still unable to thwart them back?

Even after they were so advanced that they researched Gravity,Planes(Vimana), E= MC2 etc etc. Now, I am confident we defeat aliens in next galactic war with bow and arrow. LoLz.

Lastly, start to quote me directly, instead of replying to birbal and using my my quotes from my reply.

If you want to blame me that I am a Jew or a member of Illuminati. I am more than happy that I am controlling the world. Can you do anything about this? You know I embedded a chip inside your brain? LMAO.

VIKRAM GUHA said...

PrasunDa,

Just following up on the link about Finmeccanica that you posted.

Assuming finmeccanica is banned and they choose not to support existing weapons, sensors leave aside selling weapons, sensors etc in the future isn't this Finmeccanica's LOSS?

I mean this will be a huge windfall for US, Israeli, French, Russian and god knows how many western, asian defense companies.

Please do shed some light.

Regards,

VIKRAM

Arpit Kanodia said...

""""You have posted so many links of blogs that state that these technologies existed in India (South India to be more precise) then how come India never developed any of cutting edge technologies (research on Raman effect is getting conducted in US and not in India). Calling one superior than the others is a disgrace to the Almighty (even Shiva/Vishnu would not like it) still all elections held in Tamil Nadu (or anywhere in India) are based on religious equations even Brahmans have upper and lower between them(that's human ego). All the information that you have provided only gives inputs of science of ancient India was theory there is no information of Science in Practicals and definitely not in improvements its like "we have discovered the technology to fly Oh! Darn its to very advanced for the common Indian to understand lets wait for US to teach them first". Don't develop an Ego based on some past books. Starting living in the present and work towards the future or you will become same ignorant idiot that had lost the country to foreign invaders and same sort of mentality till date has produced nothing but just filled the pockets of foreign companies (this mentality includes every one all the so call religious intellects, politician, bureaucrats and so called ancient scientist) simply put "ą¤šą¤¶्ą¤®ा ą¤¹ą¤Ÿा ą¤¦ुą¤Øिą¤Æ़ ą¤¦ेą¤–"""""

That was seriously wonderful reply. But problem is people love to live in "Sone ke Chidiya" days, even when that is no more exist.

And then hilariously talking about morality here. @Senthil Kumar You showing wonderful morality here. I am impressed that a man know word "morality" which have such racist agenda.

Srinivasa Nanduri said...

Hi Prasunji,

How long will this BJP govt. play this destroy congress program no matter the cost. Finmeccanica has substantial part in naval and armed forces modernization. This is going to play badly in the long run. God save us.

And what is this with HAL BTT 40 trails. Are we going to have two types of trainers now in one airforce?

Regards,
Srinivasa N

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SRINIVASA NANDURI: What's happening has been brilliantly summarised here:

http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/narendra-modi-government-bjp-achievements-failures-progress-economic-contradictions-at-play-2819273/

http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/raghuram-rajan-rbi-governor-india-niti-ayog-subramaniam-swamy-2826342/

In the end, if folks really want closure in the AW-101 case, then they will have to go for arbitration in which, just like the case involving the two Italian marines, India will lose the case against Finmeccanica/AgustaWestland. The ONLY OTHER SANE option is to say 'enough is enough, let';s all start with a clean slate', meaning the Aw-101s are inducted into service after taking into account the country's supreme national interests. It is now amply clear that no kickbacks were paid to anyone to secure the AW-101 deal. Instead, all that Finmeccanica did was to use the money paid by India to fund certain Italian political parties, reportedly acting at the behest of Sylvio Berlusconi, & also fudging the account-books in order to claim that AgustaWestland was adhering to its industrial offsets contractual obligations. Finmeccanica has already admitted its guilt in fudging with its internal accounting practices & has also paid the fine determined by the Italian courts. So, as far as the Italians are concerned, the case is settled & closed. If India persists in insisting that some 'invisible hand of an Indian citizen or citizens' is still the financial beneficiary, then all I can say is that in any such legal battle, India's defeat is pre-destined.

Same was the case with the two fleet tankers. Both Hyundai & Fincantieri had rightly said that the plan to use DMR-249A steel was the wrong decision. In any case, DMR-249A steel (whose IPRs are owned by MIDHANI NMRL) was then being produced only in India & nowhere else & for this too SAIL was then having difficulty in ramping up production-levels (required for building IAC-1/INS Vikrant) & that's why ESSAR Steel too was allowed to produce DMR-249A for the IAC-1 project. But such details easily get lost when the battle becomes political. Only after the dust has settled will the horrendous repercussions be felt. And this is exactly what will happen with Finmeccanica because all it has to ask the Indian MoD is: "where is the conclusive, proven evidence of any wrongdoing on my part?" If the MoD like an ostrich replies that "I have no proof, only a hunch about some invisible hand", then we all can guess what the rest of the world will then conclude about India's decision-making machinery.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To VIKRAM GUHA: Finmeccanica’s financial losses will be marginal. India’s losses will be far greater in BOTH financial & operational terms. Imagine warships with non-functional naval guns & totally grounded fleets of Sea King Mk.42B/C helicopters. And such hardware cannot be replaced in months or years, but in decades. And above all, it will send the wrong message to foreign industrial investors. As it is, almost every Indian & foreign business entity is now openly saying that this Govt within its 1st year itself should have repealed the retrospective taxation law through an act of Parliament. The mere fact that this could not be achieved till this day, & instead nonsensical polemics targeting Raghuram Rajan are made to garb the headlines, all shows how misplaced the priorities of the Union Govt & its Union Finance Ministry are.

To RAJ: That’s for the purpose of testing the weld-quality of the pressure-hull. Only after sea-trials for testing the structural integrity of the pressure-hull are completed will the tiles be attached.

To S SENTHIL KUMAR: No foreign invader ever brought the entire Indian subcontinent under his/her control. Postions of India, to the south & northeast, were always free to safeguard & make use of such ancient mathematical & scientific advances. But is seems even they were unable to live up to this task. If you really want to begin rediscovering all the rich/glorious heritage, then you will have to start from GENESIS, i.e. from the creator Lord Brahma & learn about the Brahmmand. If you leap-frog straight to Lord Shiva, then not only Brahma, but also Lord Vishnu will be pissed offm leave alone other mortal human-beings active in this blog! But there are far more down-to-Earth ways & means of rediscovering the past. For starters, how about making serialized biopics about ancient Indian mathematicians or scholars or scientists? Why have these not been done as yet? Why are such biopics being made in the West, & not in India? Why this constant fascination with Gods & Angels & warring Kings & Emperors in various Indian TV channels? Why should programmes like India’s Got Talent & Indian Idol deal only with fancy acrobatics or singing or dancing? Why can’t a spelling competition (like the ones organised in the US) be organised & telecast? Why this perpetual fixation with only dancing & singing? Therefore, let’s get the basics right first before deciding which Lord should be the point-of-departure in one’s quest for rediscovering the past. Take the baby-steps first, & for the time-being leave all the leap-frogging to the Lords of Yore.

Anonymous said...

Hi Prasun,

http://idrw.org/cancellation-finmeccanica-torpedo-contract-delay-ins-arihant-induction-3-years/

Is this true?

Best Regards
Raj

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun,

Thanks for your reply. I agree with your most of the point’s except Lord Brahma.

As per ancient literature & archeological proof there exist Lord Shiva, Lord Murugan, and Lord Vishnu etc. All these gods have huge temple structure. Lord Murugan is in Indus Seal. Even today Lord Murugan is worshipped in Africa as Murgu.

But in ancient literature or archeological sites there is no mention of Lord Brahma and there are no temples in south India for Brahma. One or two exists which are recently build 100 years old.

The term Brahma or Brahman means Knowledge people. This Brahma God is created by Invaders in their fairy tales. So they keep these names as Brahman which suit and ruled India.

Do you agree all Hindu Gods fight each other to show their superiority? This are fairy tales created by vested interest peoples.

Yes I agree with you, Indian Government should form a national committee which includes researchers, archeologist and historian and start to dig all the heritage without bias.

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

Anonymous said...

Dear Arpit Kanodia,

“And then hilariously talking about morality here. @Senthil Kumar You showing wonderful morality here. I am impressed that a man know word "morality" which have such racist agenda.”

Discussion starts with human civilization. You said Did Human civilization started after Tamil Nadu created during 1956? I refused your arguments and gave some links to watch. After seeing the videos you said these are brainwashing videos. Because so far you learnt a wrong history. Now you don’t know whether to accept or reject my theory. Immediately you started to tell that I am a racist. Ok Fine.

I will ask one question. Do you accept “Dharma of the four Varnas” meaning Brahman born in head…. Sutras in Leg. This is racist or not. Do you accept in same religion people are divided. First start correcting the base issue in our society.

Do you know one truth all Christians and Muslims who converted before 1947 are low caste Hindus. To get recognition in the society they changed. Not on love affair with Abrahamic gods or by force.

You can call me whatever. But I am going to fight for India till death.

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

Ganesh said...

Regarding the article - http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/narendra-modi-government-bjp-achievements-failures-progress-economic-contradictions-at-play-2819273/

The prescriptions of Mr Bhanu Pratap Mehta is recipe for disaster for BJP if followed. As a government it has to cater to its consistency more (Majority) and the party should grow using every opportunity including article 356; best thing is it is being done subtly; does the pressitute expect a riot for it? We do not need a Prime minister who says Muslims have first right on all Indian resources and do nothing to them other than allowing them to multiply. Mr. Modi is clever enough to understand that Indians needs progress and he has the knack to successfully work towards it. The pressitute expects everything to change to positive in a wink, when the financial mess created by East India company is not fully cleared in spite of working two years. The policy framework has to be evolutionary, where in, instead of announcing new projects (like in East India Company's aka Congress dispensation, new trains would be announced every year, for the sake of it) the shortcomings needs to be fixed in good initiates of previous government's policies.

It is very important to vanquish the dynasty (East India Company aka Congress)

Ganesh said...

Adding more after reading the second article; these pressitutes grow brains only when non-Congress government is in power and they throw it out once East India Company ascends to power. They have all types of non-sense to prescribe. It is the motor mouth - Subramanian Swamy against incumbent RBI governor and the pressitute shamelessly attributes his prejudice on the government with the statement Investors all looking at another term for Mr Rajan, when nothing has been decided yet

RAT said...

@S.Senthil Kumar
There is no Proof that its stolen by west if and only if the invention is put into production and outcome is positive it is accepted by the world there are lot and lot of research working going on in India and the world many fail the only ones termed successful are the ones implemented successfully in end product. One can put many baseless theories but there is a concrete research work to prove that the theory is real. I can also say that all living beings the soul is electricity or power (I honestly believe it) but unless and until I have very strong evidence it is worth nothing for this I have to do research on living humans and once that are about to die to check what elector-chemical, elector-physical and elector-functional(these are only a few that i can recall as i am not an expert on it) changes have occurred. In India we have limited fields of science just check the numerous fields the west have even for biology we are stuck in a stereotype mentality what was said by ancestors is right have we ever tried to prove why it is so NO as we just follow like a herd of sheep. We never dare to question (of course except on this blog)any beliefs and on top of it if there is work evolved (hard or soft doesn't matter) we are the first ones to back out. Researchers give their entire life for their research but whats the use if they are researching the wrong thing or their approach is wrong. I will just give you an example how we people are just yesterday on TV they were showing the scam involving Damadji(you know who)so obviously there were comments from some one that I know now that some one I know had accepted some amount for selling his house which was not listed so the question is is it fine to cheat at lower level and call the others name as they got highlighted? Some time I feel to do a Shiva's act like leaving the country but then i can get out of the country how will I get the country out of me (Hamlet).

birbal said...

Ganesh said...

....... when the financial mess created by East India company is not fully cleared in spite of working two years. The policy framework has to be evolutionary, where in, instead of announcing new projects (like in East India Company's aka Congress dispensation, new trains would be announced every year, for the sake of it) the shortcomings needs to be fixed in good initiates of previous government's policies "

Well said....we all know Lord Ganesh for his WISDOM....Jai Ganesh deva

SUVO said...

Prasun da, sorry for off the topic question.
Is it possible to modify our T-55 tank fitted with Cockerill CT-CV 105HP turret,a diesel engine, developing 750 hp and night fighting capability ?

Anonymous said...

Dear RAT,

Thanks for your response. The problem for Indians is not on talent or education. Problem for Indians is their mindset & social setup.

See in any Indian family setup, after education their son/daughter should get good job and earn more money than their own relatives to show they are better. After job and good money only, persons are treated as humans in India and he will get big dowry in marriage market and get the best brides/grooms.

Because of this mindset, we missed or try to avoid research route which is long carrier and no assurance of success.

At the outset, everything in India should change from family, society, politics, etc to win the world race.

Most Important thing in India everyone should think they are equal to others. Not Upper or Lower in any means. I think it will take another 2 to 3 generation to change everything.

Thanks
S.Senthil Kumar

G said...

Q: The Bofors FH77 was pretty much blacklisted , but was still able to complete in trials because Bofors is bought over by BAE systems? and though was L1 in all the trials, wasn't selected because it was original Bofors?

Having said that , I have a feeling that the same can be said with Finmeccanica, since it is now - Leonardo Finmeccanica, very sure this govt, will quite allow to do business with it.

All the Hair pulling and chest thumping by the RM is just for show for the next elections




Ujjwal said...

Prasunda,
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/torpedo-hits-nuclear-indian-submarine-programme/1/682160.html
Is it true? Does it make sense to use two different torpedos in the same class of submarines?

john said...

Hi,

How Finmeccanica is going to affect the new Air Craft Carrier ? Will it get delayed further ?

Is it easy to replace the guns supplied to Indian Navy ?

What is the fate of Pilatus trainer?

Expecting an writeup about Finmeccanica stopping support to existing products.

Anonymous said...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Not-scared-of-any-threat-Govt-to-Finmeccanica/articleshow/52538948.cms

Another fool in this Govt. Most of the ministers in NDA govt are good but some are utter fools

Arpit Kanodia said...

@Senthil Kumar

Facepalm, i replied to your argument. You are so moron that unable to grasp your own things that what you say and what you not?

""""
Whether you like it or not Human Civilization Starts from Kumari Kandam and migrated to other parts of the World after the submerge. Even Ramayana & Mahabharata
happend in tamil Nadu & Part of Kumari Kandam.

"""""

If all things happened in Tamil Nadu, then it should be after 1956. Instead of moronically wasting your time here, start to do some real research.

And please dont use "dear" when replying to me, I am not a dear who believe in such supremacist agenda.

And I further to your question about Brahman, no I dont believe so. Thats crap. Brahman never born in head, Universe born brain, not because of brain there is a universe. Even universe will exist without humans or without Shiva or Vishnu or any other god. These things are because of Universe, not Universe because of them.

Maybe (again maybe) Brahma put the Earth into goldilocks zone of Sun, and maybe first civilization of earth established on Kumari Kandam. But that also doesnt means the second civilization that come after first civilization was successor of first civilization.

So, stop being self centric.

BTW, you are not fighting for India. Stop patronizing other with such evil mindset. Unknowingly, you are fighting for supremacist agenda.

SUJOY MAJUMDAR said...

Prasun Da,

Seems we are un necessarily spending crores to fight terrorists. Look what the Brits have found. Pelvic thrusting Bollywood numbers are more than enough to subdue ISIS.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/what-music-british-special-forces-8090316#ICID=sharebar_twitter

On a separate note, if Finmeccanica is banned are they not bound by legal agreements to fulfil all their obligations in India & this includes providing MRO?

Thank You

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: LoLz! That's known as psy ops or psychological warfare. It will be far more effective when instead of using Bollywood item-songs, the Brits start using the raunchy Bhojpuri item-songs.

Why should Leonardo Finmeccanica abide by its legal contractual obligations when the Govt of India does not reciprocate? After all, this is a publicly-listed company answerable to its shareholders & is therefore duty-bound to ensure that it does not engage in loss-making businesses. Therefore, in the coming weeks or months, expect Leonardo Finmeccanica to file a case in India's Supreme Court in which the Govt of India's unilateral blacklisting will be challenged & the MoD will be reqd to prove that Leonardo Finmeccanica is guilty of wrongdoing. And obviously we all know that the MoD will NEVER be able to prove any wrongdoing like the much-touted/claimed corruption, since the RM has already stated that there exists only an 'invisible hand'. It will be like trying to prove that a piece of real-estate like a mansion is 'haunted' by entities from the netherworld! In short, another global embarrassment for India after the ITOL verdict on the Italian marines issue. As it is, the international arbitration between the Govt of India & DEVAS Multimedia is now over & the Govt of India is now reqd to financial compensate DEVAS to the tune of more than Rs.850 crores. The govt is now in a fix, since--by agreeing to dispute resolution through arbitration--the govt can no longer claim its sovereign right to refuse adherence to a contract. All these tamaashas are thus classic examples of being penny-wise & pound-foolish.

To Anon@8.23PM: Wasn't this the very fool in the NDA-1 govt who in early 2004 failed to get Ottavio Quattrochi extradited from Malaysia, primarily due to the CBI's shoddy paperwork? Just like that Jaswant Singh fella who never tired of writing apologist-type books about the IC-814 hijack drama of late 1999? These fools are all Class A traitors & subverts who masquerade as the country's lawmakers.

To JOHN: IAC-1's launch/commissioning won't get delayed because all components of the RAN-40L & 76/62 SRGMs have already arrived, but if Leonardo Finmeccanica refuses to honour its product warranty commitments, then it is as good as not having them installed on board IAC-1. Is it easy to replace all these? Yes it is, provided someone foots the exorbitant bill for new replacement procurements & adjustments to the vessel's superstructure to accommodate such replacements. ASAIK, PC-7 Mk.2 BTTs are already in-service with the IAF. If Parrikar comes up with a financially implementable solution that will eventually see all the PC-7 Mk.2s being sold as second-hardware to anyone else in the world & in return the IAF accepts a BTT fleet of HTT-40s, then all I can can say is Good Luck to Him. Let him give it a try at the Indian taxpayer's expense. What more can I say!

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To UJJWAL & RAJ: LoLz! Looks like India has an inexhaustible supply of 'desi' patrakaars who, in essence, are morons. In the history of undersea warfare, show me just 1 example from anywhere where a submarine's combat management system & its related torpedo fire-control system was customised for fitment in only 1 single submarine! Financially, it is a cost-prohibitive exercise & no one in their right mind will ever do this. Therefore, all 3 SSBNs--S-2/Arihant, S-3 % S-4--will use Russia-built TEST-71ME-NK & TEST-71MKE torpedoes.

Secondly, there's this statement (The submarine’s manufacturer Larsen & Toubro conducted nearly 20 simulated ‘swim out’ trials of the Black Shark at a special L & T facility in Pune between 2013 and 2014), which is a dead giveaway about the concocted nature of this news-report. Swim-out trials can only be conducted with inert type-specific torpedoes that are supplied by the OEM AFTER a contract for procuring torpedoes has been inked. In this case, since the Black Shark was never ordered, how can WASS supply the inert clones of the Black Shark to anyone in India for such trials??? Before swim-out trials are conducted, the entire torpedo fire-control system must be interfaced with the CMS & the torpedo launch-control system. Only after this can such a trial be conducted with a bigh degree of realism. Hence, the trials being reported involved NOT the Black Shark, but the TEST-71ME-NK & TEST-71MKE torpedoes.

These 'desi' bandalbaazes always opt for short-cuts, i.e. conjure up stories in their workstations in the hope that no one will question their authenticity. If only they had spoken to L & T (533mm torpedo-tube manufacturer) & TATA Power SED, TATA Consultancy Services & Krasny Marine (suppliers of the CMS, IPMS & torpedo launch-control systems) during expos like DEFEXPO 2016 or the expo coinciding with IFR-2016 or even last month's expo in Vizag to celebrate the Golden Jubilee of DGNP Vizag (see the uploaded photo of the event), then they wouldn't have ended up making fools out of themselves.

Had these 'desi' bandalbaazes attended such events, they would have realised all the home-truths. For instance, do they even know that the optronic masts for the S-2/S-3/S-4 SSBNs are from Calzoni, which is owned by L-3 KEO of the US? Do they know that these very masts are now being fitted on the Class 209/Type 1500 & Type 877EKM SSKs? Do they know that Project Varsha's NAOB was designed by a team of US-based heavy engineering consultants & they are the very ones that have assisted India in acquiring heavy-duty tunnel-boring expertise & hardware & heavy-duty lifts & that these were first used in creating the underground caverns in Mangalore that now serve as storage facilities for India's strategic crude oil reserves?

Rajesh Mishra said...

All the Indian population have the similar genes whether the so-called Aryans or so-called Dravids or anything else. All of them have same origin. Almost all of Europeans are genetically the elder sons of Indians and almost all of the Chinese are genetically the Younger sons of Indians. Red Indians are genetically the grand- sons of Indians through the Chinese connections.

Most ancient Naga (Cobra) Hindus from Ethiopia traveled to India in seashore hugging mode (During ~50000 years ago) and gathered at the junction of South India and unsunken and connected SriLanka. This is also called as Kumari Kandam or Lemuria. This was the first paradise on the earth and these people called themselves as Yax (Yaksha or the people who die while defending others).

During the Ice Age, the huge glacier of Mount Meru was formed as a triangle between East Iran, Ayodhya and Mt. Kailash. Gods from Kumari Kandam made Mt. Meru (28000 to 14000 years ago) as their another habitat and Paradise. So they started developing white skin on Western side and yellow skin on eastern side, small eyes on northern side and brown skin on southern side.

At and in vicinity of the Mt. Meru, the Brown people were called as Devas/Daityas, Dark people were called Yaxas/Raxas, White people were called Sur-Gandharva/Asur, Yellow people were called Kinner/Danava. All these people are Hindu Gods/Demons of different orders. During the lifetime of Mt. Meru, the river Ganga has gone dry and lost for many generations. After Mt. Meru started receding, King Bhagirathi the ancestor of God Rama researched and revived the Ganga again.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To S. SENTHIL KUMAR: Here are my elaborations:

1) You seem to be trying to interpret events of tens of thousands of years ago through 21st century optics. For instance, you are presuming that all these Lords are indeed Gods. Even the pagan tribes of South America & The Philippines embraced the colonial Spaniards as supernatural beings when they first saw fire emerging from muskets. So, if an audience perceives events or phenomena to be ‘supernatural’, then automatically human instinct portrays them as being the handiwork of Gods or Godmen.

2) There may be no temples in honour of Brahma or Vishnu in southern India, but does that mean such ancient structures don’t exist in other parts of India? Or are you implying that ancient India or the ‘Bharat’ founded by the son of Shakuntala & Dushyant was confined only to the southern Indian landmass of today & the continental Kumari Kandam before that?

3) Before the arrival of ancient literature (or writing scripts), there existed only seals for communicating edicts & instructions. While such seals can well be several thousand or tens of thousands of years old, can the same be said about literary works recovered through archaeological excavations? How old is the oldest recovered Indian manuscript containing literary contents?

4) When you mention invaders concocting fairy-tales, who exactly are these invaders? The original brown race residing in Kumari Kandam & their Dravidian successors, or the Central Asian Caucasians who were portrayed by the Brits as being Aryans? Or were the invaders from the Semetic race from ancient Mesopotamia?

5) The mere fact that ancient texts talk of Gods fighting against one another proves that these were perhaps super-human beings, but by no means Gods onto eternity. Nor can tales of such fighting Gods be dismissed as concoctions of foreigners because all that these Indophile foreigners did was to translate from several Indian languages to their respective mother-tongues. None of these literary translations have been proven to been works of fiction or fantasy. Nor is there any Indian literary counter-narrative to claim that all Gods co-existed in harmony in their respective celestial abodes.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To GANESH: The political dynasties exist not only within the INC but in almost all other parties, especially the regional ones. Eradicating all of them should be the cherished objective, but that is much easier said than done.

Anonymous said...

Hi Prasun,

You said: "Why should Leonardo Finmeccanica abide by its legal contractual obligations when the Govt of India does not reciprocate?"

India is blacklisting Finmeccanica only from 'future' capital equipment purchases; I don't think there is any 'agreement' in place that India will need to include Finmeccanica in its shortlist of future vendors. Whereas it would be legally binding for Finmeccanica to abide by the terms of all existing contracts!

Even though the actual recipients of the money is not clear, the Italian court has found that wrong doing has happened (in terms of intent to bribe etc).

Thanks,
OmniCurious

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To OMNICURIOUS: Any form of blacklisting WITHOUT a coherent & transparent reason that can be backed up by material evidence is AGAINST WTO regulations. And India as a member of WTO has to abide by its terms & conditions, as reqd by law. Therefore, if I were the CEO of Leonardo Finmeccanica, I would focus all my energies on winning the PR battles through legal means, i.e. filing a case with India’s Supreme Court to challenge the blacklisting. And by doping this, Leonardo Finmeccanica will lay claim to the moral & legal high-grounds & thereby secure the support of not only the govts of the UK & Italy, but also the entire EU. And mind you, there’s already a legal precedence for this: the tiny city-state of Singapore’s ST Kinetics is still fighting a case in the Supreme Court against its blacklisting in light of allegations of corruption involving senior OFB officials. In addition, if Christian Michel decides to file a case in the UK & also in India’s Supreme Court against India’s MoD in which he challenges the MoD to uncover & unravel the ‘invisible’ hidden hand as has been alleged by the Indian RM, all agencies like the ED, Income Tax dept, DRI, CVC & the CBI will all be on the backfoot since they will be forced to file time-bound chargesheets, failing which they all will be reqd to file closure reports & the MoD will have no legal recourse left to impose its blacklisting norms.

If the Govt of India remains hot-headed & stubborn, then the EU will probably direct its industrial sectors to ignore ‘Make in India’ mantras & instead focus on countries like Vietnam, The Philippines & Indonesia, along with Sri Lanka & Bangladesh. You will be surprised to know how far more flexible all these countries now are in terms of attracting industrial FDI.

That Leonardo Finmeccanica or Christian Michel will win the case is beyond doubt now, since both the Italian court verdicts so far have NOT compellingly established any instance of bribery & corrupt wrongdoings involving Indian citizens WRT any military-industrial contract inked with the Indian MoD. If bribes were paid to Italian politicians, then it is Italy's internal matter & has nothing to do with India since any such wrongdoing was done by Italian citizens on Italian soil.

No country has any kind of agreements that allow an OEM to be shortlisted. In a global competitive tendering process, a level playing-field is all that's reqd. Of course even if Leonardo Finmeccanica decides to abide by the terms & conditions of existing fixed-price contracts, such agreements are limited only to product delivery & duration of the product warranty period, with which Leonardo Finmeccanica has already complied. But such agreements do not prevent Leonardo Finmeccanica's subsidiaries from jacking up the product-support pricing by 80% or even 180% after the expiry of the product warranty period. And all product-support contracts to be inked in future after the product warranty period expires will be subject to new terms & conditions, inclusive of cost escalation factors, as is the universal practice. These are known as supplementary contracts that are inked either annually or once every 3 years. So, the RM now should clarify whether these yet-to-be-inked contracts should be viewed as brand-new contracts & would therefore be unimplementable since the RM has foreclosed the option of inking new contracts with Leonardo Finmeccanica's subsidiaries.

Cont'd below...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

In case the RM decides to make exceptions by allowing only the inking of product-support contracts, Leonardo Finmeccanica being a publicly listed MNC, will owe it to its shareholders to recoup its financial losses in the Indian market (due to being prevented from bidding for new contracts for new product sales) to jack up the price quotations for product-support to exorbitant levels. Either way one looks at the scenario, it is a lose-lose situation for India now. Therefore, Leonardo Finmeccanica has multiple options & cards to play, at the diplomatic-level, international trade practices/economic treaties-level, & the financial-level. On the opposite side, just look at the pathetic prosecuting track-record of the CBI or ED or CVC WRT all such previous cases, starting with HDW, then Bofors AB, then IAI (regarding the Barak-1), then IMI, then Denel Group, then ST Kinetics, then Rheinmetal, & now Leonardo Finmeccanica.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ARPIT KANODIA: Very interesting & soul-searching analysis of Pakistan now at the crossroads, by well-meaning & discerning Pakistani analysts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt88JawFxUo

Another interesting analysis of Afghanistan-Pakistan relations, especially by Ahmed Rashid, aired 2 days ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgfdcUUYuEQ

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