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Tuesday, September 17, 2019

China-Developed Long-Range, TNW-Armed MBRLs For Export

When China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) holds a grand military parade in Beijing’s Tiananmen Square on October 1 (expected to be the biggest in China’s history) showcasing some of its most advanced weapons to mark the nation’s 70th anniversary, one of the most eagerly awaited weapon systems to look out for will be the PLA Rocket Forces’ (PLARF) long-range multi-barrel rocket launchers (MBRL) that care meant for firing guided rockets containing low-yield tactical nuclear warheads (TNW). In fact, such 400mm MBRLs have already been exported by China to both Pakistan and Democratic People’s Republic of Korea since 2011.
While in Pakistan this MBRL is known as the Hatf-9/Nasr, the North Korean MBRL’s name has yet to be revealed. The latter was first test-fired on July 31, followed by additional firings on August 2, August 24 and again on September 10, 2019. According to the Republic of Korea’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, the rockets were fired from Sondok in South Hamgyong Province into the East Sea at around 6:45am and 7:02am local time. They flew around 380km at an apogee of about 97km, with the maximum speed reaching more than Mach 6.5. Two rockets were fired each time and flew around 220km (on August 2) to 250km (July 31) at an apogee of about 25km (August 2) and 30km (July 31), with the maximum speed being more than Mach 6.9 for the August 2 test-firing.
Exports of such long-range MBRLs have so far been conducted by both the China Aerospace Science & Technology Corp (CASC), also known as the 4th Academy; and the China Aerospace Science & Industry Corp (CASIC). The production authority has been the Chengdu-based Sichuan Aerospace Industry Corp (SCAIC), also known as Base 062.
The maiden test-firing of the Hatf-9/Nasr took place on April 19, 2011, while a salvo-firing of all four rockets took place on October 5, 2013, following which formal service-induction with the Pakistan Army took place. Each rocket weighs 1,200kg and contains a 400kg warhead-section. Contrary to its declared range of 60km, the rocket is estimated to travel as far as 380km. The conventionally-armed variants of this MBRL are known as the WS-2 or WeiShi-2 (Guardian-2) and WS-3, with the former being exported to Morocco and Sudan by China National Precision Machinery Corp (CPMIEC).
Soon after May 1998, the chances of an all-out conventional war breaking out between declared nuclear weapons-armed states like India and Pakistan across the 2,175km-long International Boundary (IB) became nil, and since mid-1999 (following OP Vijay and OP Safed Sagar) there have been greater prospects of limited but high-intensity wars being fought along both the Line of Control (LoC) and the that part of the IB that Pakistan refers to as the Working Boundary (WB). India’s Union Territory of Jammu & Kashmir (J & K) has 734km of LoC running through Jammu, Kashmir and Ladakh regions from Kargil to Malu (Akhnoor) in Jammu district, while it has 190km of IB from Malu to the Punjab belt running through Jammu, Samba and Kathua districts.
The WB, spanning 202km and including the Chicken’s Neck area, lies in Jammu Division between Boundary Pillar 19 and Sangam i.e. between Jammu and Sialkot), which was part of the erstwhile princely state of J & K. It is this stretch that Pakistan refers to it as the WB, since it maintains that the border agreement (the so-called standstill agreement) was inked between the princely state of J & K and Pakistan, and not between India and Pakistan. Given the fact that India maintains a near-foolproof anti-infiltration grid along the LoC, Pakistan has since mid-2013 focussed its terrorist infiltration efforts (via underground tunnels dug throughout the Chicken’s Neck area) along the WB.
Chicken’s Neck is the name given to the territory lying between the two branches of the River Chenab and it is a dagger-shaped salient in J & K that allows the PA an easy access to the bridge at Akhnoor in Jammu, as well as to the Chhamb-Jaurian sector. Measuring about 170 sq km, it is bound by the River Chenab in the west, and by the River Chandra Bhaga, or Ghag Nala in the east. Ferries in Saidpur, Gondal, Majwal and Gangwal areas connect it with the Sialkot sector. Being an open area in the plains, it is excellent for the conduct of swift, offensive manoeuvre warfare by the Indian Army. However, for Pakistan, this area is indefensible by conventional means, as it is surrounded by India from three sides and back in December 1971, was captured by India within a 48-hour period. Consequently, if the IA were to opt for a high-tempo but limited land campaign (under its Cold Start doctrine), with the objective being a piece of Pakistani real-estate stretching all the way out Chhamb, then the only available option for the PA is to exercise its right to self-defence by using TNWs against invading IA formations within the Chicken’s Neck salient, i.e. inside sovereign Pakistani territory.
It is for this reason that the PA between 2012 and 2015 constructed a purpose-built cantonment at Pasrur (southeast of Sialkot) for housing its 18 Hatf-9/Nasr multi-barrel rocket launchers (MBRL), each of which can salvo-fire four 400mm rockets. The rocket is 7.5 metres in length, can carry a TNW with a yield of 3 Kilotons out to a distance of up to 150km, and has a 300-metre circular error probable.
In such a scenario, where India will find herself extremely hard-put to justify a second-strike retaliation with nuclear weapons, the only available option then—in order to retain moral ascendancy—will be to resort to a doctrine of pre-emptive but conventional first-strike against the PA’s stockpile of deployed TNWs both at Pasrur and within the Chicken’s Neck area.

121 comments:

DAshu said...

Sir chowkidaron ka chowkidar,
Always I do feel that you give hints or convey some messages to "the game planners" on how to plan and achieve the required goal. Failing to read/digest your points will give rewards like 27th Feb.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To DASHU: VMT. I have considerable amount of data WRT China's industrial espionage within Ukraine since the early 1990s & will detail them all in the next thread, which will explain how China served as the conduit & middleman for all missile-related industrial collaboration between Ukraine & North Korea, with China also directly benefitting from this exercise.

hoods007 said...

Prasun

How come the world looked the other way when china supplied weapons with can carry nukes to national security states like pak, North Korea. How was this deemed acceptable to the other members of P5 security council. All this shenanigans of china have started to look like a unfunny joke.

Sidharth said...

Prasun da,

What is the Indian equivalent to this new TNW Armed MBRL of China? Pinaka or Prahaar or Pralay - do they match in terms of speed (Shaurya missile could be).

So the maximum range of Nasr (aka Hatf IX) missile is 380 KM with 400Kg warhead as opposed to 70 KM, why Pakistan has hidden this information.

Nayandeep said...

Respected sir..first of all let me thank you for giving us information which all the so called defence experts miss by a fair margin..I'm not an expert in matters related to defense so my simple question to you is that if Pakistani establishment knows what's coming haven't they prepared an action plan to counter us..the news channels and the experts sitting on it present a picture of an easy walk over..but common sensically speaking I'm sure we'll also suffer casualities. How is the present day government planning to retake pok.what stops us from giving brahmos to Vietnam..would be greatfull if you can shed some light on these questions. Jai Hind.

Sidharth said...

Prasun da,

https://twitter.com/i/status/1173815308949364737

https://twitter.com/i/status/1173829726194085888

Tapas aka Rustom II crash - what could be the reason, fuel exhaust or link disconnected

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To HOODS007: The world is no longer turning a blind eye, but is now most eager to seek vengeance. For instance, like this:

https://savetibet.org/new-bill-will-sanction-chinese-officials-for-interfering-in-dalai-lama-reincarnation-update-tibetan-policy-act/?fbclid=IwAR2uJQbtt5GW9Y6tnDODGvDZ74OfoQUbse-aetyppVbqTMZbzfW2F_BRIk4

And as I had stated earlier, Russia too is no longer content with playing second fiddle with the BRI & instead wants to establish the Eurasian Customs Union as the predominant trading bloc in Central Asia, with India’s assistance of course.

To SIDHARTH: The Hatf-9/Nasr’s Indian TNW equivalent is the PRAHAR. The Pralay is a conventional long-range rocket artillery for replacing the SS-150 Prithvi SS-BSMs. Greater range of TNWs does not mean they can penetrate deeper into the adversary’s hinterland. Instead, it allows such MBRLs to be sited at safer launch locations in areas where they are well-protected for AirLand attacks.

To NAYANDEEP: Present-day GoI has no available operational plan for liberating PoK at a time when the IA’s IBGs are still in the initial days of field-testing & the IAF lacks the requisite quantum of offensive deliverable firepower. For, as I have explained above, between May 1998 till 2016, no GoI has bothered to read the writing on the wall, be it for exercising military power or military force for attaining the desired strategic objectives. The only redeeming fact-of-life is that Pakistan is in far worse shape, with only 27 days stockpile of fuel/oil/lubricants for the civilian economy & about 10 days of similar stockpiles for the armed forces; an active three-front ground forces deployment footprint (along both the eastern and western fronts, plus internal security).

However, when it comes to constructing mega-statues of all types, successive Govts have shown remarkable alacrity in terms of releasing the reqd funds (a luxury not made available to the country’s armed forces) in the most expedicious manner & ensuring that all such statues are commissioned for commercial exploitation on time & within budgets!!! Here are a few examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UISo4CL3AE&t=6s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gq5vrRSPvo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC7HP7SFD1Q

Lastly, why the hell will Vietnam ever procure BrahMos-1 missiles from India when it had already procured similar weapons from Russia earlier this decade? Kindly read this:

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/10792/Vietnam_To_Buy_Additional_Missiles_Bastion_P_From_Russia#.XYB8oygzaM8

It therefore appears that omly India’s ‘desi patrakaars/bandalbaazes’ are unaware of this reality & hence their periodic rumour-mongering since as far back as 2002 about exporting BrahMos-1s to Vietnam!!!

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

According to the J & K Police’s latest assessment, 246 militants were killed in Kashmir Division in 2018 while this year, until to date, the number stands at 142. Of these 142 militants killed, 89 were gunned down in south Kashmir, considered a hotbed of the post-Burhan Wani insurgency. Each year, about 40% of militants are killed in areas along the Line of Control (LoC), which includes both local residents and Pakistani nationals attempting to infiltrate into the Valley. In 2018, however, of the 246 slain militants, only 42 were “LoC kills”. This year, all of the 142 militants were killed in the “hinterland”. The idea was to make terror outfits operate like gangs and not organisations. “The only way to achieve this was by separating structures of terrorist organisations from their support base that includes a network of overground workers, sympathisers and new recruits. First, the security forces went after key commanders of the Lashkar-e-Toiba, Hizbul Mujahideen and Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM). This was followed by going after their district-level leadership. The lower rung militants and the support base became directionless because there were no instructions from previously established centralised leadership. The militants began operating in groups of 5-6. Among the senior militants killed in the last two years are Mehraj Bangroo, Sameer Tiger, Zeenat-ul-Islam, Azaad Dada, Naveed Jutt, Altaf Kachroo and Zakir Bhat. the slain commanders HAD yielded a certain influence in their area of operation that they could have used to mobilise people against the government. There was special focus this year on the JeM after a local militant, Adil Dar, carried out the Pulwama suicide bombing on 14 February that killed 40 CRPF personnel. 52 JeM militants were killed this year. The arrests of 700+ alleged militant sympathisers have removed grassroots structures of the insurgents. This year alone, the J & K Police has filed over 300 cases under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act (UAPA). But while the counter-insurgency operations have been able to inflict great damage to militant networks across Kashmir, more than 250 insurgents continue to be active in the Valley. Of these, 150+ are local residents. 2018 marked the highest ever recruitment of locals (191) in over a decade, forcing militant outfits in the Kashmir Valley to reach their highest level of intake capacity. That was a reason that JeM revived in Kashmir. Many youths who were interested in joining militancy and specifically the Hizbul Mujahideen were directed to join Jaish because Hizbul was saturated. This year, on an average, five to six Kashmiri locals joined militant outfits each month. In June, 26 youth were believed to have joined militant outfits. In July only four and in August three youth became militants—one from Kulgam, one from Awantipora and one from Shopian.

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AMIT BISWAS said...

Good news for DRDO

https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/drdos-unmanned-aerial-vehicle-crashes-karnataka-no-casualties-reported-109023?amp

Ram Bharadwaj said...

Hi prasun, i had a basic question. Can the IAF Su30MKI with N011M radar, IRST and R77 take on the PAF F16 block 52 with APG-68 radar and AMRAAM??

rad said...


hi prasun
if GOI is planning to make the s-400 , is it not better to develop it ourselves with western and israeli expertise. I think we have an adequate expertise with making AAD type of missiles ., avoiding sanction at the same time?.
we seem to have developed the C3 for that as well.all it needs to extrapolate the AAD missile and be self sufficient
what are the critical elements that russia has developed for the s-400 that the west has not ?
will moving a squadron of barak 8 near the loc in j and k be a solid defense against the pak f-16 and REK bombs? due to th e h-4 type missiles that are bound to come next time when there is a skirmish?.
Is there any official atempt to arm the mirages withthe meteor? though common sense would dictate that? would

asd said...

Dear Prasun,

1. What's your prediction that India will capture PoK and Gilgit Baltistan?

2. In case of high intensity war, will India try to liberate Beluchistan, and Sindh? Will they prefer to merge with India?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SIDHARTH & AMIT BISWAS: Most probably either absence of data-link control commands, or even engine failure. Video shows a spiralling & uncontrolled spin while hurtling down towards the surface, indicating loss of engine power.

Meanwhile, final confirmation of the permanent deployment of T-90S MBTs at Nyoma & Chushul in eastern Ladakh:

https://twitter.com/NorthernComd_IA/status/1173894507856662529

To RAD: No sane individual will even contemplate licence-building S-400s in India. Only item which can be built are the associated land-mobile air-conditioned mobile command-n-control shelters to ensure commonality with similar items being built for the Barak-8 MR-SAM complex for the IAF.

To RAM BHARADWAJ: Of course. In fact, even MBDA is suggesting that the MICA EM/IR BVRAAMs are a far better solution than Meteor BVRAAM when it comes to air combat within friendly territory. As I had explained earlier, what matters most is the HMDS/SRAAM combination, & not the long-range of AAMs.

Susan said...


Dear Prasun Da

1)Rohini Radar convoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1PmGSYiVU8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgvcFT9i_co

First 2 vehicle are Radar,What are other vehicle are present in this convoy.

2) Old Russian truck convoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSaYRxxiVYs

What are these truck.what they are use for.

@Susan



Ashish Gautam said...

Wow awesome thread sir...😍
Loved it as always...
Sir in reply to my tweet about less amount of brahmos SSM on Nilgiri class frigate vishno som of NDTV said this....
https://twitter.com/VishnuNDTV/status/1174014534803062784?s=19
1) your comments please.
2) sir Is it not possible in case of SSMs that we keep a reload pallet/magazine of brahmos SSMs in ships so that we may not need to do reloading on sea from top, is it not possible from bottom?
My question can too wierd since I have no idea of internal working mechanisms, if such a mechanism using hydraulics or pneumatic systems could developed??
Or not possible coz of missile size as he said...? Coz obviously 2nd floor of ship also need to built of that much height which can accomodate missile...

sbm said...

Hi Prasun, one question that has been puzzling me: why does the Kolkata class and all LRSAM equipped Indian ships, including the new Nilgiri class, have only 32 LRSAM launchers? Why not more given the large number of SAMs in VLS aboard Chinese ships?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SUSAN: 1) Here you will find all the vehicles used for Akash-1 SAM:

http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2015/01/consolidated-data-on-army-specific-air.html

2) That is a convoy with all vehicles associated with the S-125 Pechora SAM Flight. Vehicles are all ZIL & KAMAZ trucks of the Soviet era—the same used by the BM-21 Grad MBRLs. Saw them all arriving in Bombay by ship in the early & mid-1980s & then being sent by rail to their final destinations.

To ASHISH GAUTAM: 1) Woh Bandalbaaz khudh bhi chootiya hai aur ASSUME kar rahaa hai ki duniya ke baaki log bhi uske jaisa chootiya hai. FFGs can carry up to 12 ASCMs on slanted cannisters amidships, or they can carry much more if the warship—DDG or FFG—has universal VL-cells that can accommodate both SAMs & ASCMs. But this isn’t the case with the IN’s DDGs & FFGs since the BrahMos-1 & Barak-8 have been developed by different OEMs & consequently have different VLS-cells. And the air-search radar on the rear-mast of the Project 17A FFG is NOT an airborne early-warning radar (WTF!), but the 3-D all-digital LTR-25 L-band radar. This will also go on the four Project 15B guided-missile destroyers. I had broken this news here:

http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2018/09/pgms-being-developed-by-drdo.html

And this is the LTR-25 L-band radar:

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CHZ-zv3smTw/W6AgkJLnTEI/AAAAAAAAPl4/NeW91Msd6uUQyp0J66Hu4iplRus6Oi5YQCLcBGAs/s1600/Indra%2527s%2BLTR-25%2BL-band%2Bradar.jpg

And here is the IN’s video on the Project 17A FFG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EV9HQx3V58

2) As I explained above, reloading BrahMos-1s is impossible at sea either from the bottom or top because the high seas are not stable like the waters of a lake & hence the warship is constantly pitching & yawing.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SBM: As I had stated numerous times before, the Project 15A/B DDGs have 32 Barak-8 LR-SAM reloads stowed internally. So each such DDG has a total of 64 Barak-8 LR-SAMs on-board. As for why the PLAN’s warships have larger quantum of SAMs on-board, it is because they all have truly universal VLS-cells from which both SAMs & ASCMs can be fired. On the IN’s warships, there are no such universal launchers & hence the VLS-cells of Barak-8 & BrahMos-1 have different designs & dimensions. The confusion stems because in India, the term UNIVERSAL means the same VLS-cannister is used on-board warships as well as by ground-based mobile autonomous launchers (MAL).

And here are some more interesting titbits:

Tapas (formerly Rustom-2) UAV Crash:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hk4l-i1LPc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckjppBAh8cM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVQgnffRu5g

However, the DRDO is claiming that it crash-landed:

https://twitter.com/DRDO_India/status/1173827087951511552

Akash-1S Contract for 7 Sqns Finally Signed with BEL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gemVdK6apqU

Yesterday’s Astra BVRAAM Test-Firing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMkP7gX7IoM

It is really amazing that a war-torn country like Yemen can still come up with so many types of UAVs/attack drones:

http://www.english.iswnews.com/6321/images-unveiling-new-missile-and-uavs-by-yemen-armed-forces-and-ansar-allah/

When attacked by swarms of such drones, the only hard-kill option is to go for laser effectors like this:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yx3i_42Wg-4/Vv8IOku1TAI/AAAAAAAAKgM/6uxAxbHZBEY9OsqsI9aeApiSNpPxsifFA/s1600/DRDO-conceptualised%2BDEW.jpg

Such effectors & their command-n-control consoles can easily be accommodated on armoured vehicles like the TATA-developed KESTREL:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HiD4Ez3riaM/Vv8HBIdhvMI/AAAAAAAAKfI/B8hjVcut0o0PhBw7KrASIQPeQAAi8CQYw/s1600/TATA%2BMotors%2BKestrel%2B8%2Bx%2B8%2Bwith%2BNag%2BATGM%2BLauncher.jpg

AMIT BISWAS said...

With such attitude NIA is supposed to carry out anti terror investigation

https://www.timesnownews.com/amp/india/article/mha-approves-suspension-of-three-nia-officers-in-terror-funding-case-related-to-hafiz-saeeds-charity-body/490649?__twitter_impression=true

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ASD: 1) It is no longer any prediction. The official declaration was made yesterday by the Govt of India:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I0QMz7k0Qc

But 'desi patrakaars' like that Editor from HINDUSTAN TIMES in this videoclip (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2Tlj39BkDc) are presenting a totally erroneous analysis of EAM S Jaishankar's explixit declaratory statement yesterday. And this is because such 'desi patrakaars' are either not in the know about the reality & the on-going behind-the-scenes developments, or they deliberately choose to live in a state of denial by ignoring the objective ground realities. This guy is still stuck in the 2004-period & was hence eulogising the 4-Point Formula of Musharraf (which was a rejigged plan that was originally put forward by Australian diplomat Owen Dixon in 1953) that was ultimately junked in 2008 by the then Govt of Pakistan itself. He is also ASSUMING that India is still a status quo power.

And even Pakistan’s Ace Bullshitter (another patrakaar/saahaafi) is getting more anxious about this declaration & has begun formenting conspiracy theories:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrmbJXrA8Nc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsAcawqOKbs

Getting back PoJK is no longer an option, but an imperative, as traditional SLOCs used for ferrying in crude oil & LNG from both the Persian Gulf & the Red Sea are now in danger from the on-going Sunni-Shia wars being waged by the proxies of Iran & Saudi Arabia, not to mention the climactic war between the two two Muslim sects that was foretold by the Holy Prophet in the Al Hadis. This being the case, India can now secure her long-term energy-related supplies of hydrocarbons only from the overland route, i.e. from Russia & the Central Asian Republics. That’s the writing on the wall as of now.

2) The next round of India-Pakistan high-intensity war will be conducted only along the WB/LoC and not across the IB for reasons I had already explained in the previous thread. The Baloch nationalists claim a piece of landmass that is presently distributed among Afghanistan, Iran & Pakistan. Consequently, supporting any claim about Baloch independence will see India making enemies not just with Pakistan, but with 2 other countries as well. For those who are unaware about Baloch history & nationalism, I suggest they go through this videoclip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sub-e2z5_qU&t=62s

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To DASHU: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2Tlj39BkDc

According to this pseudo-intellectual who works for the HINDUSTAN TIMES, J & K was bifurcated along communal lines (this being the reason by Ladakh was allegedly carved out as a separate UT). But he contradicts himself by not explaining why non-Muslim majority Jammu has been allowed to be with Muslim-majority Kashmir as a unitary UT. On top of it all, he uses the term 'aggression' to refer to India's aspirations/plans for recovering PoJK. Exactly how such 'patrakaars' manage to remain gainfully employed despite spewing out outlandish soundbytes remains a mystery to me!!!

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

1) Given the deficiencies equipmentwise in our armed forces, are we not incapable of recovering PoJK as of now? Wo'nt it take several years to acquire the necessary capabilities ?

2) When will MIRV testing begin on our part ? In the next year or two ?

Satyaki

Sujit said...

Prasun sir, navy vice chief in conference held yesterday clearly said that lca navy mk 1 is a td , and also said that thse developments will go on to the naval amca which will be operated by navy..which means he clearly said though indirectly that there is no navy mk2 as was speculated earlier and a new clean slate design shown in aeroindia this year..
2-Since forign mimister has now declared that india will hv physical jurisdiction over pojk , wud like to know from you how exactly will it unfold??. Which means are we going to see some actions ??
3-regarding submarine i always wonder why does mazgaon docks and indian navy along with L&T jointly design a submarine based on sishumar class and kalvari class?.
4-reading reports that iaf will be going for rfp soon for htt 40 by end of this year..is it true?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Substantive messaging emanating from India that is targetted towards China ahead of the forthcoming NaMo-Xi summit meeting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmyyRhT5ubk

When it comes to armoured/mechanised warfare in Eastern Ladakh and depsang Plains, the Indian Army enjoys a commanding advantage over the PLA since the latter's MBTs are all powered by air-cooled engines that cannot function at high-altitudes, whereas the Indian Army has T-72CIAs & T-90S powered by water-cooled diesel engines, as I had explained here:

http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2018/06/given-below-are-weblinks-of-show.html

The PLA can at best use only 780hp diesel engines (clones of Soviet-era engines whose manufacturing know-how was obtained from Croatia in the early 1990s by NORINCO) but such engines perform sub-optimally when used by medium-weight tanks like the Type 96/96A. Hence, the PLA has begun procuring the lighter Type 15 (ZTQ-105) tanks armed with 105mm smoothbore cannons that are devoid of any heavy armoured protection & are therefore sitting ducks for the 125mm cannons of the T-72CIA & T-90S.

PA BAT Infiltration Attempt Captured by IA's Hand-Held Thermal Imager:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpiPLR7XUkg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76KI8IAj_uQ

Typically, the BATs first resort to firing 30mm grenades from under-barrel grenade launchers attached to their AK-47s against the IA's observation posts. The best way to counter this is the lethal combination of the Russian 30mm AGS-17/30 automatic grenade launcher & the OFB-built 7.62mm MMG, as shown here:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5fsn-a6S6Ko/WtKDOhErKcI/AAAAAAAAOWY/HU3yXhOiB9cafoKXYh6Mm-QyISx8U6k8QCLcBGAs/s1600/ZEN%2BTechnologies-developed%2BInteractive%2BAGS-30%2BAGL%2B%2526%2B7.62mm%2BMMG%2BFiring%2BSimulator.jpg

And finally, the unthinkable (theft on-board IAC-1/INS Vikrant):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9vQ-yX-xXA

Guess India is very truly INCREDIBLE!

SUJOY MAJUMDAR said...

Prasun Da,

1. In this video pertaining to the P-17A the Navy has mentioned a certain DDCL Shipyard that has played a part in the designing, construction of the P-17A. Isn't DDCL a Bangladeshi shipyard ?

https://twitter.com/VishnuNDTV/status/1173942617286959104

2. Will the P-17A use the MK 45 gun or the one manufactured by OTO Melara ?

Thanks

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Yet another shining example of the contradictory, un-commercial & suicidal processes of indigenisation of military hardware: on one hand MBDA is being forced by the MoD to favour the MoD-owned Bharat Dynamics Ltd, while on the other it does not object to MBDA tying up with Larsen & Toubro. But in the end, who gets to have the cake & eat it as well? None of the 'desi patrakaars' now on an all-expenses-paid-trip to the MBDA facilities in the UK & France have the gumption to ask such questions! Read these:

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/lt-mbda-seeks-approval-for-sez-unit-to-assemble-missile-sub-systems/article26904320.ece

http://corpwebstorage.blob.core.windows.net/media/36356/2017-02-13-larsen-toubro-and-mbda-establish-joint-venture.pdf

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/european-manufacturer-signs-up-to-make-missiles-in-india-with-bdl/articleshow/71184202.cms?utm_source=twitter_wap&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialsharebuttons&from=mdr

To SUJIT: 1) There’s no LCA-Navy Mk.2 because there’s no LCA-AF Mk.2 as well. Both have been superceded by the MWF but what was showcased last February was only the air force version of the MWF. We can thus conclude that the IN has not shown any interest in the MWF’s developmental roadmap as envisaged by ADA. 2) I have detailed only the WHY, and will be able to detail the HOW. 3) Because there are no certified submarine designers within the IN’s Naval Design Bureau. 4) This is one such report:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/iaf-turns-to-hal-for-70-basic-trainers/story-QwR9nVF1qbDwkwNfdQyBfP.html

That report contains too many MAYs & IFs in it, meaning there are far more questions than definitive answers and until all doubts are cleared & until the HTT-40 receives its certificate of airworthiness, no production orders will be placed.

hoods007 said...

prasun

what exactly is the difference between 10 ton NMRH like s70B and 12 ton NMRH like CH 148 cylone apart from weight difference. does the extra weight signify longer endurance during ASW operation or that 12 ton NMRH carry extra anti sub ammo and sonobuoy and is there any doctrinal difference in how both are employed?

Sujit said...

Prasun sir, i have read ur "why" version, and must say its absolutely clear like crystal..wanted to know " how" just anxious but at the same time dun want operational secrecy to get hampered..
2- regarding astra, ANI is reporting citing unnamed drdo sources that astra hit its target at 90 kms today..is it true?? Astra has 90 km range??..and how wud u rate it against R77 and AIM 120C5?? With speed of mach4.5 as u had said earlier& 90 km range if true then it wud be a hell of a weapon for paf to fear..and one more thing does aim120 has low speed than astra??

Ayush said...

Sir, if we don't have any submarine designers then how did we designed Arihant and our future SSBNs? Whi is designing our future SSNs? France or Russia?

Pratap said...

Prasun da,

1 What's the mechanism of reloading the stored Barak 8s? How much time does it take? Are there any disadvantages of it compared to having 64 missiles in ready to fire mode?

2) Does P-17A Nilgiri class also have this 32 +32 SAMs system?

3) Is it true? The number might be 150 (36+114) though twitter.com/Aryanwarlord/status/1161354918638174208

4) Himvijay is fine but wouldn't cancellation of talks would have send a stronger message to China?

5) When will Nirbhay missile enter service? Why are the trials taking so much time?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: The same question was asked by a certain Sujoy Mitra as well. It was TEBMA SHIPYARDS LTD that had previously owned DDCL, which stood for Dharti Dredging and Construction Ltd. But now, that company is known as Dharti Dredging and Infrastructure Ltd & it is responsible for the construction of new dry-docks for GRSE as part of the P-17A construction programme. Here is the company’s website:

http://dharti.in/projects/

To ANUP: Because: 1) the An-32B is landing on an ALG that has limited runway length & therefore can accommodate only a shorter landing-run. 2) Unlike combat aircraft, the An-32B doesn’t host brake parachutes for shortening the landing-run. The Vijaynagar ALG can accommodate only transport aircraft powered by turboprops, & not C-17A Globemaster-IIIs.

To HOODS007: A 12-tonne NMRH has greater internal volume & max takeoff weight & hence its performance parameters are superior to those of 10-tonne NMRHs.

To SUJIT: The ‘How’ is explained by a few here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHCTsZwxTt8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8psZhqnBfAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aB85VWqcyM

2) It all depends on the launch altitude. The higher the altitude, the greater the max range. Astra-1 & R-77 have near-identical performance parameters. AIM-120C-5 is good too, but can easily be neutralised by ASPJs—either pod-mounted or internally-mounted.

To AYUSH: How the hell have you concluded that the S-2/S-3/S-4 SSBNs have been designed in India by Indians? If that was the case, then what the hell were Russian industrial personnel representing their OEMs were doing in Vizag on July 26, 2009? The following on-the-record statements from authoritative sources needs to be noted & absorbed by you:

“But the project was still not getting anywhere,” says V. Koithara in the book Managing India’s Nuclear Forces. “India then sought and got much more substantial Russian help than had been envisaged earlier. The construction of the submarine’s hull began in 1998, and a basically Russian-designed 83 megawatt pressurised-water reactor was fitted in the hull nine years later.” Ashok Parthasarthi, a former science and technology adviser to the late Prime Minister Indira Gandhi, sums up the extent of Russian assistance: “India's first indigenous nuclear submarine, INS Arihant...would have just been impossible to realise without Russia’s massive all-round consultancy, technology transfer, technical services and training, technical 'know-how' and 'show-how,' design of the submarine as a whole, and above all numerous operational 'tips' based on 50 years of experience in designing, building and operating nuclear submarines.” And if there were any doubts about the extent of Russian involvement, they were cast away on July 26, 2009 when 143 Russian engineers, designers and consultants—all participants in the project—attended the boomer’s launch ceremony at Visakhapatnam on the east coast.

https://www.rbth.com/blogs/stranger_than_fiction/2015/10/26/arihant-how-rusia-helped-deliver-indias-baby-boomer_533849

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

What was stolen from IAC-1/Vikrant in Kochi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjVi02FJzuI

Riverine Infiltration via the Chenab River:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjlKEJmVrlk

Looks like MBDA is making a strong pitch for selling Brimstone ATGMs for the LCH. MBDA has also developed special packages for mounting Brimstone on a variety of armoured vehicles:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDnMuk1X4AAcJC5.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDnMulCWkAAQF_I.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDnMuk-WkAUOSh1.jpg

And this is what the JV of L & T/MBDA is offering the IA:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDJOTGEXUAAYb7w.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-uE5hnX4AAI5gC.jpg

Ashish Gautam said...

Haha he later cleared it mentioning reply to someone else, he accepted that universal VLS is a great space saver though IN doesn't use it... I don't know why... May be due to unavailability or any other reason...
Is it also easy to jam RVV-MD and Astra??
Any update regarding indigenous development of IR cum radar seeker??
If DRDO is not able to do it then let any desi pvt company do it...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To PRATAP: 1) The reloads are mounted on rollers, just like the deck of the C-17A Globemaster-3 that enable groups of VLS cannisters to be stowed into & away from the LR-SAM launch compartment. 2) No. 3) Kindly desist from sharing such nonsensical Tweets. 4) Not at all. Talks are mere discussions & are not the same as negotiations. Talks are held between 2 equal parties whereas negotiations are always held between a stronger power & a weaker power. 5) Which version of Nirbhay? The ground-launched variant, or the submarine-launched variant or the air-launched variant?

To ASHISH GAUTAM: Of course the Ku-band seekers of such BVRAAMs can be jammed. IIR-cum-Ku-band combined seeker is for the Akash-NG variant of Akash-1 SAM & it is still under development.

To DASHU: Except for Senge Sering & Alok Bansal, everyone else in this programme is bullshitting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIpepAUAyXM&t=2s

Obviously India cannot single-handedly capture PoJK, just like in 1971 India could not go on the offensive without the USSR’s active support. Similarly, India will have to work together with a superpower to shape the battlefronts in such a way that the bulk of the PA (about 350,000 troops) is tied up along the western front (facing Afghanistan & Iran), with only 200,000 troops remaining along the IB & LoC.

Anonymous said...

“ Obviously India cannot single-handedly capture PoJK, just like in 1971 India could not go on the offensive without the USSR’s active support.“
Ur right but in past Pakistan doesn’t have nuclear warheads which it does now so it best to for India to maintain status quo instead of inviting nuclear warheads towards its cities. Anyways u have already told that both IA and IAF doesn’t have offensive capabilities to take on PAKISTAN military

Ron

Sidharth said...

Prasun da,

https://hal-india.co.in/Product_Details.aspx?Mkey=54&lKey=&CKey=20

All sudden the external payload capacity of Tejas is increased by 2 Ton. As per HAL, the total payload capacity of the Tejas is 5.3 Ton - perhaps this includes the internal fuel weight as well.

Never seen Tejas flying with drop tank certified for supersonic speed. What'll happen if Tejas stuck in a situation where it requires to go supersonic - will it dump the drop tank first.

Sujit said...

Prasun sir, does that mean astra and r77 are immune to aspj?? I mean they are a little difficult to neutralise by aspj?? While AIM120 are easy targets??.
2- regarding in one of ur replies u said that mbda has said the combination of mica rf/ir is more potent and better than meteor in friendly skies..how exactly is that??. Since u hv always said its the speed not the range of missile that counts & meteor thanks to its sfdr has more speed than MICA.then how can it be less effective than mica??.plz put light on this.

rad said...


hi prasun
my dream seems to be comming true , the astra is going to have a IIR variant , i think we will be the first country to have a medium range IIR missile , your comment s?
i believe that more fighters have been shot down by IR missiles than any other.
what would be your take of going about it ie importing the front end from whom etc?

as the IIR seeker is lighter than the radar seeker , can i assume that it will have more range? of course it has to be guided to a closer distance to the target due to less seeker aquisition .

can you confirm if the astra has track via missile mode , as i believe that mode is very difficult to jam as they have to jam the parent ac for it?

what would be your take on the practical NEZ zone of the astra 2 or the meteor, though much has been bandied about ?

has the sd-10 have variants ?

Sidharth said...

Prasun da,

https://zeenews.india.com/india/defence-minister-rajnath-singh-flies-in-light-combat-aircraft-tejas-2235380.html

Have seen (via Media) almost every Raksha Mantris (not sure of AKA) flying on Tejas. What purpose does it serve - public gimmick - validating Tejas to possible (really doubt on it) external customer - RM joyride - forcing IAF to buy this bullshit machine (in current variant).

Naive question: Can Tejas (in its current variant) be employed/deployed similar to Su-25 and A-10 Thunderbolt role under IA Aviation Corps

SUJOY MAJUMDAR said...

Prasun Da,

Apologies for the oversight. I generally pick up latest topics from social media posted by journalists, fanboys alike. So I often lose sight of the fact that those questions related to those topics may have been answered. Already you are fielding dozens of questions in your blog from several posters.

Thanks, Sujoy

Anup said...

1)CPEC shelved? Its' Dead End?
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/528615-cpec-shelved
2) Raytheon Approach and Landing System very compact compare to Data Patterns.
http://alert5.com/2019/09/19/raytheon-demonstrates-jpals-to-f-35-operators/

just_curious said...

Prasun,

1 Quite a contrarian view this .. your take ..

http://idrw.org/indian-air-force-should-drop-its-plan-to-make-more-tejas-mark-2s-focus-on-amca-fighter-jets/

2 Also how true i this ,,,http://idrw.org/how-india-plans-to-expand-astra-family/

3 I'm @ a loss to understand why wud Cochin shipyard have a private security group manage internal security unless they really feel for the chinese /paki snoops & want to ensure their employment

4- adding to siddarth's query, does Lca Mk1/Mk1a have a 4.5 T weapons payload capacity with 2.4K internal fuel tank?

asd said...

Dear Prasun,

Please make the air clear again for me.

1. If Tejas Mk1A is successful, how much will you give it in a scale of 10?

2. Will Tejas Mk1A be a used as LIFT in IAF? How will it fare in dissimilar air combat?

sbm said...

Thank you for answering that question on the LRSAMs on the DDGs. How are the reloads done by the crew? I can see the roller/conveyor but how do they get into the launchers?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SUJIT: 1) Why should any RF-guided BVRAAM be immune to ASPJ? All BVRAAMs are vulnerable to ASPJ-emitted jamming signals (earlier I had meant VULNERABLE, and not IMMUNE). Any SRAAM/BVRAAM used within friendly skies is lethal since the firing cues/directions are provided to the pilot by GCI from the ground. 2) Inside hostile airspace where such GCIs aren’t available, one can use the MRCA’s on-board MMR for only a few seconds for target illumination. Using the MMR for extended periods will only invite retaliations & ambushes.

To RAD: How can such a dream come true when it defies all laws of physics & aerodynamics? The availability of MAWS today easily defeats the very purpose of long-range IIR-guided AAMs & that’s why the air forces of Russia, China & India have all discontinued the usage of R-27T-type BVRAAMs for engaging hostile MRCAs.

To SIDHARTH: he’s India’s RM to fly the Tejas Mk.1. The previous one flew on-board a Su-30MKI. Both the A-10 & Su-25 are heavily armoured to withstand AA flak, whereas the Tejas Mk.1 isn’t. Supersonic underbelly-carried drop-tank was shown at Aero India-2019 expo & I had even uploaded its photo.

To JUST_CURIOUS: 1) LoLz! Purely delusional outbursts thsat violate all laws of industrial & production engineering, not to mention product development evolution. To use an analogy, a developer/producer of DSRVs or midget submersibles is being tasked with the development of SSN/SSBN vessels! In any case, Tejas Mk.2 no longer exists & anyone even mentioning it needs psychiatric counselling. 2) Again, purely delusional day-dreaming that violate all known laws of physics 7 aerodynamics & hence no sources are quoted for that report. If at all such a phenomenon was possible, then why didn’t anyone deem it fit to develop IIR-guided variants of the AIM-7M Sparrow, Skyflash, R-77 or AMRAAM? SFDR project is a 100% in-house affair & has no inputs/contributions from any foreign party. 4) That’s easily achieved when one carefully reads that same table that says the combat radius is 300km, i.e. without the underwing drop-tanks.

To ASD: 1) That depends on how successful or unsuccessful it will turn out to be. Too many variables continue to exist, just like too many 'IFs'. 2) No. For the LIFT reqmt, the Tejas SPORT variant is planned.

To SBM: There are no launchers, only cannisters. The reload tray carries all cannisters--both loaded & empty. Once in position, the cannisters are aligned with the deck-level VLS hatches. Once in port, the hatches are opened & all empty cannisters are taken out & loaded cannisters are inserted via these hatches & the cannisters are then fixed on to the loading trays that move internally via rollers. Reloading is done ONLY AFTER all missiles have been expended, not otherwise. Same loading/unloading procedure applies to the BrahMos-1 as well.

sbm said...

Thanks again. So at sea, reloading can't be done?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Certain statements in the following report deserve both analysis & contextualisation:

https://theprint.in/defence/pakistan-knows-well-retaliate-they-should-remain-in-fear-indian-army-chief-bipin-rawat/292465/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IDLzYDZf6U

Report: Gen Rawat also advocated a change to India’s “defensive mindset” of having troops all along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) with China, saying the country should focus on “reserves in depth” and technology when it comes to manning the areas adjoining the northern neighbour. Gen. Rawat, somewhat disapprovingly said that Indian Army had a defensive mindset. “I call it the LoC syndrome. Because we have been facing this menace of infiltration and border skirmishes for years along the LoC, we have started deploying and defending every inch,” he said, adding that this is being taken to the LAC as well. “That same mentality exists on the northern and eastern borders. When you go there, you have started adopting a very LoC kind of mentality. It is not the same situation like the LoC but the mindset is very defensive,” he said, adding that company commanders or commanding officers of battalions try to replicate what they did at the LoC.

Analysis: This was bound to happen ever since the rashtriya Rifles (RR), instead of eventually morphing into formations comprising only CAPF personnel between the 1993-2000 period, instead continued to make use of only IA personnel who in turn have been used sub-optimally since their principal training is for combatting hostile armies & not terrorists armed with only assault rifles, carbines & RPGs. A paramilitary RR patterned on lines of the Assam Rifles would have produced much better outcomes, thereby releasing the IA personnel to undertake all-arms domination of the LoC.

Report: He also said he does not foresee a war with China, even though “small incidents” and some irritants keep happening along the LAC, as always. In many areas, there is no enemy sitting on the opposite side, and the Chinese PLA comes in for patrolling from about 10km away. That’s why Gen. Rawat is arguing for creating reserves and using technology. “Reserves in depth, having soldiers at a strategic location a little away from the border, is important because if tomorrow the Chinese come at Point B instead of Point A, we can always move quickly thanks to helicopters,” he said.

Analysis: This can only be possible if the IA Aviation Corps is vastly expanded for undertaking all-weather heliborne vertical envelopment operations. For this, the Corps will require no less than 40 CH-47F Chinooks, which will have to be backed up by some 200 armed aeroscouts/LUHs, about 150 light attack helicopters and up to 400 ultralightweight howitzers.

Cont'd below...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Report: Gen. Rawat said his larger reorganisation plan is to form Integrated Battle Groups or IBGs, which are brigade-sized, self-sufficient, agile formations that can ensure faster punitive and defensive operations. “I am starting with 9 Corps in Yol (near Dharamsala in Himachal Pradesh). They are responsible for the IB (in Jammu region) portion in J & K. This is the place where we need to maintain leaner and meaner forces,” he said. “Then, we are also looking at 33 Corps (based in Siliguri) which looks at Sikkim.”

Analysis: IBGs can be effective only if their supporting logistics bases & depots housing weapons & ammo stockpiles are sited close to the IB (in northern Punjab) & WB (in southern Jammu). And such bases/depots will require guaranteed hardened air-cover by both ground-based AAA & the IAF.

Report: Referring to the Shakargarh bulge of Pakistan, he said IBGs are best suited here. There have been reports of increased Pakistan activity in the ‘Shakargarh bulge’—Indian Punjab is south of this while Jammu is north of it. Pakistan has a number of large ammunition dumps and has stationed several Armour units at the location, which witnessed action during the 1965 and 1971 wars.

Analysis: Not Shakargarh Bulge, but the Chicken’s Neck area that leads straight to the Chhamb-Sialkot sector along the WB & LoC. The Pakistan Army’s frontline armoured assets are all located in an area stretching from Sialkot till Mangla. And under a nuclear overhang, the country that violates the IB to cross into enemy territory will be perceived by the international community as being the aggressor & the enemy will thus have every reason to make first-use of TNWs inside its own soil as a defensive measure, while the aggressor will find it impossible to retaliate with TNWs. In addition, anyone with a modicum of knowledge about the lifestyles of affluent Pakistan will realise that the entire Shakargarh Bulge is full of palatial villas & opulent housing societies for gated communities that house the elite of Pakistan. This in turn indicates that Pakistan is highly confident that the IA will not dare cross the IB to invade this portion of Pakistani real estate. And IA-led invasion is only possible if there is an acute humanitarian disaster unfolding in that area, such as the destruction of holy Sikh shrines at Nankana Sahib or Sri Kartarpur.

Cont'd below...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Report: Talking about any possible war scenario with China, Gen Rawat said the Chinese will focus first on pulverising Indian command, control and logistics centres with missiles rather than fighting a full-fledged intense war in the initial stages. Unlike Pakistan, he said, possible future war with China will be long drawn.

Analysis: The PLA has since the previous decade been investing in the development of a wide range of SRBMs of the ‘Fire Dragon’ family that can be launched from MBRLs. In India’s case, matters proceeded too slowly after service-inducting the liquid-fuelled SS-150 Prithvi SS-BSMs & even then such SS-BSMs have never been earmarked for use anywhere along the LAC. Development of the SS-150’s solid-fuelled replacement, trhe Pralay, should have been expedited nine years ago.

Report: He said the Army has built a fence along the LoC and there is a post every 300 metres, manned by some soldiers, called “picket deployment”.

Analysis: The fence runs only along some 550km to the north & south of the Pir Panjal Range & does not exist at all in northeastern J & K all the way to Turtuk. In addition, fences can’t be erected over rivers & rivulets, which are the favourite points of entry for terrorists from PoK.

Report: He also said another trend has come to light—of Pakistani terrorists entering through the International Border in Punjab. He said two terrorists with weapons were caught during a security check last week from one such truck on the way from Jammu.

Analysis: Not by land, but via rivers, the river basins and Doabs. Similar attempts can be made in wartime in the Sir Creek area to accupy some mudflats since the border there is disputed (just like the Jammu-specific WB & Kashmir-specific LoC up north). The IA thus needs to raise riverine interdiction units equipped with armed rapid intervention/assault craft like CB-90H vessels, since the BSF units deployed along Sir Creek area are not heavily armed for undertaking frontier domination operations.


Report: He also rued that children as young as 10 were being radicalised in Kashmir by telling them that Hindus and Muslims cannot stay together, and hence, Kashmir cannot be with India. He said Army Goodwill Schools in Kashmir are trying to counter this radicalisation and that teachers and children are still coming to the schools run by the Army.

Analysis: Interestingly, all the Muftis & Maulanas preaching such hatred hail from either Bihar or Uttar Pradesh.

Cont'd below...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Report: The IBGs are part of the reforms in the Indian Army’s functioning, and are to replace the current Cold Start Doctrine, which calls for defensive corps to carry out shallow cross-border thrusts within 72 hours for limited objectives such as the capture of territory. The Army leadership felt that the 72 hours’ notice was also very long, and Rawat wanted to create integrated units for the border that will be self-sufficient—with artillery, armoured, combat engineers and signal units. The IBGs are primed to strike in less than 24 hours. They will be sector and terrain-specific—in effect, the IBGs in the north will not be the same as those in the western sector. The resources, in terms of equipment, will be determined by the terrain, enemy threat and the task.

Analysis: Such battlefield manoeuvres are only possible if the IA has overwhelming superiority in conducting long-range fire-assaults, which would need to be backed up by outflanking immediate air-support attacks conducted by attack helicopters that are integral to the IA’s ground formations, plus overwhelming amounts of ordnance dropped by IAF tactical strike aircraft. Sadly, the IA is terribly short of towed & tracked self-propelled 155mm howitzers, while procurement of motorised 155mm howitzers hasn’t even commenced. And deliveries of LUHs & LCHs to the IA haven’t even begun. Nor is the IAF in a position to provide the desired quantum of battlefield air-interdiction support. After all, 125 MiG-27Ms, 95 MiG-23BNs & some 200 MiG-21Ms & MiG-21 Bisons that all will be decommissioned by 2022 can’t be replaced by just 64 Jaguar IS/DARIN-3 & 40 Tejas Mk.1s & 36 Rafales.

The above analysis is also backed up to a certain extent by this analysis:

https://theprint.in/opinion/modi-govt-claiming-pok-is-great-for-diplomacy-but-wont-mean-much-militarily/293751/

Greece & Turkey Are Playing Dangerous War Games on the Aegean Sea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9Ix9J7ASMo

What Do The Ram Janmabhoomi Excavations Tell Us?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QctU9kNs5Xc

India's Sanitation Problem: A Disconnection From Ancient Indic Knowledge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGHSOMPzZ0w

To SBM: It can be done, but at the cost of a catastrophic accidental detonation. That's why no one undertakes such reloading at sea & instead seeks overseas bases like Djibouti or Diego Garcia or Bahrain or Qatar or Gwadar where such reloadings can be carried out without compromising on safety.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

DSEI-2019 Expo's Naval Coverage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MmmD6V23RA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtc6kVHMTwE&t=10s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjiRhYPxSA4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm_ftdtIJzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdkLZhsAmJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOdcym36NLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Calg1ilk8ys

Barracuda SSN’s Combat Management System:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5F5UWV3W0c

How China Hides Its Infrastructure Debt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYMkVlftRB4

Saudi Arabia Reveals Iranian Hand in Drone Strikes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwN_-O2V_0k&t=7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQWWVvYkzWU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbrV_NIO16g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFU_u0QZyHo&t=238s

Sujit said...

Prasun sir, u are saying 125 mig27 95 mig23BN and 200 mig21M and bisons will be decommisioned by 2022..but arent they already retired?? I mean presently iaf had only some 40 mig27 and 120 mig 21 bisons in active service right??..or u are trying to say that they hv just been kept in active reserve with possible recommission right now and will be fully decommisioned or taken out by 2022??..

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

MiG-23BNs & MiG-21Ms are long gone & only 35 MiG-27UPGs of 40 & 118 of 125 MiG-21 Bisons remain.

Suvo said...

Prasun Da,
Why Indian Army not opted for Lynx MRL.It can be configured to carry a variety of rockets in two sealed pod containers:eight (2x4) 306mm EXTRA rockets; or four (2x2) Predator Hawk tactical ballistic missiles;one or two (2x1) Delilah missiles.
When our Prahar and Pralay is ready for service induction?

Ashish Gautam said...

My comment is in 2 parts... Part 1
https://twitter.com/RajnathSingh_in/status/1174730295297200129?s=19
In first pic I see Tejas mk2 naval with two small wings at tail section...??
So basically bvraams with ku band seeker is just Kam chalau things coz they r an easy prey for jammers...
So we need good enough AESA based seekers... But u also high lighted we lack supporting chips used in such seekers... Bad vidambana hai😝

Ashish Gautam said...

Part 1
I have a lil curiosity about interior design of missiles...
1) is it not possible to design missiles which comes with easily upgradation ability?? For example I designed a missile with most parts of it having plug n play system I want to upgrade existing Astra seeker with a new AESA based seeker.. so I take it out plug in new seeker... Now computer, it has also been designed to work in same manner, plug new in n play it... Something Like that of sim tray... Software etc have already been customised for new upgrade n tested n simulated multiple times... Now will it work?? Keeping warhead portion same, engine fuel etc same... Though if required warhead portion intact along with trigger can also be changed... But fuel n engine assembly needs full overhauling.... N then I test while missile all its functions using various on station test kits...
So as described above, is this process even possible??
If yes then why such provisions are not adopted, n if adopted in any missile already do let me know...
I call it base upgradable missiles...
Dunno if they have any other technical name.

Harsh said...

Sir, few questions:

1. What is the delivery timeline of the 150 ATAGS approved by DAC?

2. What happened to additional two phalcon order?

3. Status of the South Korean Biho SPAAG purchase?

4. MRSAM delivery schedule for IAF?

5. The airforce is going to be dead in a decade if urgency is not shown in fighter procurement?? Do MoD guys feel any shame or sense of responsibility??

6. Current ATGM & MANPADS inventory of army?

Thank you, you are doing wonderful job.

Thank

Anonymous said...

The NASR missile is thought to be only 300mm in diameter as reported by number of military sites or is that just incorrect?

Are the missiles being made in Pakistan or transferred from China?

Rupert

Kapil said...

Sir, I have a few random questions

1) Will India have a relook at the IL-214 or go for AN-148 or KC-390?

2) What is the status of deal for 814 truck mounted gun system? Will it be Caeser or Dhanush on Tatra?

3) When will the induction of QRSAM start?

4) Are there any plans for new type of destroyers and frigates beyond P-15B and P-17A?

5) Is XRSAM similar to David's Sling? When will it be ready?

6) When will Tata Kestrel enter service with the IA?

7) There are reports in April that India is buying 400 ATHOS-52 guns from Israel. Is it true?

8) Will Brahmos-2 have same specifications as Zircon? According to Putin it has a range of 1000 km and travels at Mach 9

Millard Keyes said...

Sri Kapil Dev - ATHOS = Advanced Towed Howitzer System; ATAGS = Advanced Towed Artillery Gun System - what do these two similarities tell you about that report you are referring to?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

SUVO: Because the IA already has Smerch-M MBRLs. Both Prahar & Pralay SS-BSMs will be available only in the following decade.

To ASHISH GAUTAM: The IN doesn’t want Tejas Mk.1 because it wants MWF with greater payload-carrying capability. With only 2 aircraft carriers, the IN cannot afford to use small numbers of MRCAs that are lightly armed. The IN therefore wants small numbers of MRCAs (due to only 2 aircraft carriers being available) that can haul greater quantum of ordnance. The DRDO of course does not understand the concept of naval carrier operations & hence it never even bothered to begin the MWF design effort by first consulting the IN. As for jammers, yes. BVRAAMs with Ku-band seekers are vulnerable to jamming. Nor is there any guarantee that AESA-based seekers will be unjammable, since AESA-based jammers are also available. And how can one have plug-n-play missiles of any type when all the respective components need changing once every 8 or 10 years? After all, one cannot ASSUME that the missile’s warhead section is undergoing rapid technological advances while the propellant section or navigation section or warhead section isn’t undergoing any such technological advances.

To HARSH: VMT. 1) Not before 2023. 2) No money is available for this purchase. 3) No money is available for this purchase. 4) Only by 2021. 5) Why should they, when they will either retire while still working in the MoD, or will next end up in ministries dealing with fisheries or textiles? 6) All sanctioned quantums have been met through fast-track procurement processes.

To RUPERT: That’s why I have uploaded the images above so that one can use the laws of physics & mathematics to calculate the rocket’s diameter, instead of relying on ‘thoughts’ or ‘perceptions’.

To KAPIL: 1) Both Antonov & Embraer options are ruled out & instead the IAF may end up procuring Russia-built IL-276 MTC aircraft off-the-shelf. 2) The MGS version of Dhanush-52 is still being fine-tuned by OFB. 3) Not before 2021. But Astra-1 BVRAAM will soon receive orders after the successful rounds of user-trials:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EE1H-TUXYAU3XZq.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EE1H-S_XoAEIfD8.jpg

4) Yes. 5) Not at all. 6) In the following decade. 7) No. 8) No.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

The Nature & Character of Future Wars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWCqs4vLpQI

India’s Lost Frontier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG73CJOyLQ&t=61s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQj6qd-YODE

India on Capitol Hill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXmCkXVDn2I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mxW2xydUTI

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Interesting answers by CAS of the IAF, ACM B S Dhanoa, in response to MORONIC questions asked by a 'Fauji ka Betaa':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrcvTXwxrmU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzd-Ue3lnRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyhcE9B7i8o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJHnO0VYrXQ

Millard Keyes said...

Another fake report I guess "China is selling its Liaoning to Pakistan"?

Anup said...

Sir,
nautanki:-
https://english.manoramaonline.com/news/nation/2019/09/21/hal-new-variant-of-tejas-ahead-ofmaiden-flight.html

Sidharth said...

Prasun da,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=mkevEtdlLCk

See the refueling probe on 21st version of Tejas, won't it restrict the Line of Sights of the Pilot.
If that is the case, then who's the nerd design this. Why didn't IAF raise concern. Yahan Saala Sab Chalta attitude kab khatam hoga.

Anonymous said...

Do pray tell us what the "laws of physics & mathematics" tell you about the diameter of the missiles? Are these universal laws or those known by all knowing ones only. LOL.

Those images are from their parade, do the laws of physics & mathematics tell you that they are real or dummy models? If models, are they actual representations?

Key question which laws of physics & mathematics cannot answer is where are their missiles (not models) made?

Rupert

hoods007 said...

prasun

back in 2016 you had mentioned in your blog that the russians had convinced MOD that the life cycle cost of upgraded 12 IL-78MKI-90 and 18 IL-76MK1-90 would be cheaper than procuring 10 A330 MRTT. has matters progressed in this front at all in last 3 years or are we back to procuring A330 MRTT for our tankers requirement.

Suvo said...

Prasun Da,
Thanks for the reply.And also thanks for the "India’s Lost Frontier".If the NWFP remain within India,then the history will be totally changed,there is no volatile Af-Pak region, and we have physical connectivity with Afghanistan.
My question is: when India raises the Durand Line issue?

Pratap said...

Prasun Da, what is your analysis of this? orfonline.org/research/jk-and-pok-why-mea-jaishankars-comment-isnt-the-last-word-55671/

This is the most hard hitting and realistic article i have read on POK. The author has said what we all know - Notwithstanding whatever issues they might have the 60 lakh odd Muslims of POK are supporters of Pakistan and we simply cannot afford to incorporate them into India.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ANUP & SIDDHARTH: The probe’s location is an obvious barrier to the frontal field-of-view of the cockpit. In contrast, look at where the Rafale’s probe is located:

https://i0.wp.com/www.indino.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Rafale_-_RIAT_2013_9435456345.jpg?zoom=2&resize=1210%2C642

Secondly, who the hell let this arsehole make such videos? Because when it comes to industrial security reasons, such photography is strictly prohibited & someone from HAL needs to be hauled up for this terrible security lapse. Thirdly, how can the GsH-23 cannon be incorporated when it has not even been subjected to any form of firing-trials by the IAF so far? And without such firing trials, the HUD symbology reqd for aiming the cannon towards air/ground targets cannot be developed. Lastly, have any one of you noticed that NONE of the IAF’s frontline combat aircraft have HUD cameras? The Rafale will be the first one to have such cameras. Here are a few examples of such cameras:

https://psil.co.uk/products/airborne-video-systems/cockpit-head-up-display-video-recording-system-chvrs

https://www.kappa-optronics.com/en/cameras-for-aerospace-defense/cameras-for-aerospace/hud-cameras.cfm

http://www.photosonics.com/f-16a-b-adf_hud-cam.htm

https://www.rada.com/capabilities/avionics/hcvc.html

To RUPERT: Truly IDIOTIC questions being asked by you. Haven’t you heard about CO-RELATION? It means obtaining the known dimensions of a structure in order to figure out the dimensions of another structure that is attached to the first structure. Weapons displayed during parades are full-scale but INERT in nature, as per global SOPs. Even in exhibitions such full-scale models are displayed & exhibited. As for the OEMs of such weapons, those who get to visit expos in China like the Airshow China at Zhuhai all have credible data on the OEMs making such weapons, since they are shown at such expos. So, like I observed earlier, don’t overstretch yourself with IDIOTIC assumptions & perceptions.

To HOODS007: There has been no progress on this issue due to the paucity of funds.

To SUVO: It will be raised after India officially outlines its national security interests WRT Afghanistan.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To PRATAP: There are a number of errors in that analysis. For instance:

1) The reason why India must insistently assert its claim is because the international community and the UN believes that Jammu & Kashmir is disputed territory.
Reality: Totally WRONG. Had any country believed J & K to be disputed real-estate, then it would have had enough reason to side with Pakistan at the UNGA & UNSC. The reason no one sides with Pakistan is because there’s no evidence to prove that India’s ownership of the entire undivided J & K’s is disputed. Instead, everyone, including India, believes that the issue of J & K is a matter of dispute, meaning Pakistan’s claims on J & K are ideological in nature. Since that is the case, the UN is unable to do anything since the UN never gets involved in dispute settlements that are ideological in nature, just like the claims of Greece & Turkey over Cyprus.

2) In 1947, the Indian Army quickly cleared out the areas of the Kashmir Valley occupied by the indigenous ‘raiders’. But when they tried to go beyond Uri, they found the going tough. For this reason, they lacked adequate forces to recapture Gilgit and Skardu.
Reality: The military leadership of India wre perfectly capable of achieving all their objectives, but it was Sheikh Abdullah who persuaded Pandit Nehru to stop advancing beyond the Kashmir Valley since his political influence was limited to only this area while the rival Muslim Conference had influence over other parts of J & K.

3) Again, between 2001-2007, the two countries, under Prime Ministers Atal Bihari Vajpayee and Manmohan Singh on the one hand, and President Pervez Musharraf on the other, were near an agreement that would have frozen the borders where they were. Unfortunately, Musharraf lost traction in Pakistan, and that was the end of that.
Reality: Musharraf alone could never have pushed through the implementation of the so-called 4-Point Formula because he was being opposed by the entire PA & the central bureaucracy in Islamabad. Had this Formula been workable/acceptable, then it would have been carried forward by the succeeding PPP-led govt in Pakistan. But what happened instead? The PA compelled all political parties in Pakistan to pass a resolution in their National Assembly that all previous executive decisions taken by Musharraf were null & void. As a result, when Husain Haqqani, the then Pakistani Ambassador-Designate to the US, went to Pakistan’s Foreign Office & to the GHQ to access the paperwork related to the bilateral discussions on the 4-Point Formula, he was told at both places that no such paperwork had ever existed! All this has been written about by both Husain Haqqani & by Steve Cole in his book DIRECTORATE S. So, it seems only the intellectuals of India are still unaware of such ground-realities/factoids.

And as for the seriousness of military options for India, here’s what PA officials have to say:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYak3MQuh7k

And here’s what is emanating from Canada about the recent influx of Pakhtun tribal Jihadis into PoK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HTrCnvaHGM

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

1) How many Pinaka regiments are operational as of now ?

2) By when will the six additional Pinaka regiments sanctioned around 2017 be ready ?

Kritavatma

Anup said...

Sir,
As per your reply,
SU-30MKI,MIG-29UPG,MIRAGE-2000 UPGRADED Don't have HUD?
If true, It's shocking news..

Harsh said...

Sir, I know it might be a stupid question but please answer.

How many infantry Battalions / Artillery regiments would be required to make a 10km ingress & capture across LOC?? & at the same time defending along IB??

Please paint a scenario for both separately.

Thanks

rad said...

hi prasun
uttam radar is better than the el 2052 ?? some thing fishy about i t. if that is true then we have leapfrogged directly into making an aesa radar without making an operational planar radar?? what gives ??

Is there any news about the gun trials as the sp 21 seems to be ready?

is it true that there was some hand holding by elta for the uttam as a quid pro for ordering 2052 for the jaguar and LCA?

has the 2052 been integrated on the jaguar and cleared??

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

Tejas MK2 (MWF), published dimensions. Are these accurate or still being finalized? Reason I am asking is that these are still rather small, slightly less than the contemporary aircrafts like F-16/FC-1. Is the Mk2 expected to have similar performance levels as them or better? Is this the size you would recommend if not why not?

RAT2

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To KRITAVARMA: 1) same as a year ago. In fact, MBRLs like the BM-21 & Pinaka-1/2 are absolutely useless in today’s battlefields, especially after the IA had acquired the Smerch-M MBRLs. Today, 155mm/52-cal howitzers (towed, motorised, ultralightweight & tracked self-propelled) & 300mm Smerch-Ms can hit targets much better & faster than the BM-21 & Pinaka-1/2 MBRLs. The emphasis should now be on developing 680mm cannister-encased SS-BSMs with ranges of between 150km & 400km, with up to six 150km-range BSMs being carried inside truck-mounted cannisters.

To ANUP: A mere looks at the cockpits of all those MRCas shows that such hardware is missing.

To HARSH: The scenario has already been drawn up by Ret’d Brig Feroze Khan here:

Competitive Security Dynamics in Southern Asia: Conflicts, Challenges, and Choices:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mxW2xydUTI&t=206s

Also, excellent explanations & rebuttals by Susahini Haidar in that discussion.

As for mountain warfare, overwhelming firepower is what tilts the balance, as seen during OP Vijay in mid-1999. Consequently, every Infantry battalion of the IA will require fire-support from no less than 100 field artillery howitzers, i.e. the erstwhile Soviet Red Army’s 100-Gun Concept, which was put into effect in mid-1986 under OP Falcon (during the Wangdung/Sumdorong Chu Incident) for defending the Tawang Bowl.

To RAD: And pray, who has made such a claim? DRDO has to date developed only the mechanically scanning antenna for the EL/M-2032 MMR & it is this that is on board the Tejas Mk.1s. And as I had explained yesterday, no GSH-23 firing trials have been conducted to date. Had they been conducted, don’t you reckon the ADA would have over-publicised it by now? The EL/M-2052 AESA-MMR on the Jaguar IS/DARIN-3 is already operational, while work on Tejas Mk.1A is still underway. Uttam’s airborne trials with functional operating modes has yet to begin because ELTA Systems has yet to supply the mechanism that automatically shuts down the AESA-MMR whenever the EL/L-8222 goes active. After all, the laws of physics dictate that a platform’s MMR has to be shut down whenever that same platform’s ASPJ goes active.

To RAT 2: The ASQRs & specifications & performance parameters of the MWF were all frozen way back in 2018 & work on the MWF had begun way back in 2016 when Ret’d AM Matheswaran was sitting as a Director in HAL’s Board of Directors. Rest of the info & illustrations of the MWF can be found here:

http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2019/04/from-lca-mk1-to-mwf-af-mk2-mapping.html

In my view, the MWF is THE OPTIMUM design configuration that meets the future reqmts of the IAF. And here's a comparison between the IAF & PAF by Ret'd AM P K Barbora:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7GSna9r2Jo

dilbert said...

Hi Prasun:

I read somewhere recently that HAL/DRDO people are saying that MWF first flight will be in 2025 or 2026. I have my doubts about this, but if I'm wrong (i.e. if that prediction is reasonable) it tells me that the state of development of the aircraft currently (i.e. as of today) is a lot more advanced than what we know about in the public domain.

Your assessment?

Anonymous said...

Sir in yesterday howdi modi event US organisers thought it to make as non partisan event so everyone was invited but when Modi said once more for trump re election do you think he committed a mistake... I mean putting his eggs in one cart
Ur take on both the leaders speech I mean full analysis

Ron

Ashish Gautam said...

I have one confusion going through my mind sir, the MWF will be powered by GE-F414IS6 OF 98KN max thrust or its enhanced version GE- F414EPE 110KN thrust version?? Coz both engines have almost same weight n dimensions...??
Someone closely related with program told me 98KN version... What's your take on this?? Or HAL has not yet decided it?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To DILBERT: The MWF is a brand-new design & hence it will take 5 years to build the 1st flying prototype & a ground-based prototype for structural fatigue-testing. But how soon the MWF will enter series-production depends entirely on how many flying prototypes are built for being subjected to 2,000 hours of flight-tests. The more the number of such prototypes, the lesser the time taken for freezing the final design. The globasl norm is to build seven flying prototypes.

To RON: It is a foregone conclusion that Donald Trump will be re-elected, since his opponents, the democrats, are in total disarray & are a divided lot & since the US economy is doing quite well under this Administration. In addition, the US knows that it needs India more than the other way around because while the US needs India to contain China, India can always rely on Russia to contain China & does not require the US to do any heavy weightlifting on India's behalf. For example, how will the US be able to reunite J & k & ensure the safety of India's national interests in Afghanistan? Clearly, the US cannot do much, but Russia can, since Russia too wants to see China contained & hence Russia since 2015 has been wooing both India & Japan to invest more in the Russian economy. In return, only Russia can offer guaranteed & uninterrupted supplies of crude oil & gas via safe overland routes to India via Central Asia & hence it is in Russia's interests that India liberates PoK ASAP to achieve geographic contiguity with both Afghanistan & Tajikistan. That's precisely why Russia has expended much effort to bring back Afghanistan, Tajikistan & Uzbekistan into Russia's sphere of influence, while Krygyzstan & Turkmenistan continue to be under China's sphere of influence. And in return India will continue to be Russia's biggest customer for both cutting-edge weapons technologies (especially those meant for strategic ones) & nuclear powerplants. And achieving geographic contiguity between India & Afghanistan through the Wakhan Corridor will further lessen Afghanistan's total dependence on Pakistan now for its transit trade routes. When coupled to the Chabahar FTIZ, it will finally enable Afghanistan to get rid of all its trade connectivity-related dependence on Pakistan & the latter will no longer be able to blackmail Kabul & hold it to ransom. Only then will Afghanistan will able to loudly claim that it shares no formal international boundary with Pakistan & only then will India be able to denounce the Durand Line as well.

To ASHISH GAUTAM: The MWF will require a 110kN-thrust turbofan, rest assured. The 98kN-thrust F414IS6 was good for the lighter LCA-AF Mk.2, but the MWF will be heavier & hence a higher-thrust turbofan is reqd. And here is an excellent insight into the woes of Gilgit-Baltistan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDDbe9waT2w

And India's new stated position on PoK inclusive of GB:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Io5hju7Nf0

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

PLA Army's Type 16 370mm 280km range MBRL:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFFkElvU0AAxCfX.jpg

Harsh said...

sir,

1. The six additional regiments of pinaka that were ordered were 75km ranged ones??

2. Is the 105mm gun useful and effective in Kashmir topography? especially bcoz of limited range. & we have only this 105mm gun in ample quantities to mount the "100 gun" offensive.

3. Are you sure further Rafale orders will be limited to 36-44?? no chance of more??

rad said...

hi prasun
an all knowing person who posts in IDRW called raunake kunde claims precisley that. this crack pot jingo claims that the distance between HAL and BIA airport are 40 km apart whereas it is only about 27 km as the crow flies!!! Any person can google earth it and find out . so he claims that the uttam has better capability to detect targets compared to the el 2052. further he claims that the radar is on a roof top in HAL! sources close to IDRW said that !! so he writes!!.

out off frustration i posted a reply telling all bloggers that kunde guy has discovered a new law in physics where radar waves travel via road to reach BIA .!! My post was deleted after a minute !!!
but what is more irksome is that the whole bunch of idiots blogger readers who fall for that bull shit and tickle themselves into thinking india n is far ahead of Israel in radar tech>. when some one posts the truth they pounce upon him calling him anti national
Now what is more surprising is all the jingoes post rubbish. truly rubbish begets rubbish!!

what ever happened to the normal desi radar where we could not get the air to ground mode working ? so i believe the el 2032 comming on board the initial LCA s have the 2032 with the radar antenna of india?

Ram Bharadwaj said...

Prasun,

Ig there is no Mk2 what happens to the GE414 engines? Did the MoD not order the GE-f414? i believe 99 nos were ordered. Will they power the 83 Tejas Mk1A?

Millard Keyes said...

"The emphasis should now be on developing 680mm cannister-encased SS-BSMs with ranges of between 150km & 400km, with up to six 150km-range BSMs being carried inside truck-mounted cannisters". The problem with this is by the time such a development takes place it will reach obsolescence because everyone else would move two steps forward.

Sidharth said...

Prasun da,

Your reply to KRITAVARMA regarding BM-21 and Pinaka 1/2 uselessness in the current scenario. Instead go for 680mm cannister-encased SS-BSMs with ranges of between 150km & 400km, with up to six 150km-range BSMs.

Do we have an equivalent in our Indian Armed Force except Pralay and Prahaar will only become available in this decade? Assuming its not the Brahmos.

Glaginye said...

Prasun da,

Now that you have spoken about the Wakhan corridor. Just want to pick your brain a little.

1. Does India operate a base still in Farkhor. If not will CSTO allow it either in Farkhor or Ayni?

2. Is there a real plan to take back PoK. Can yu please elaborate if so & the potential outcome.

3. Now that Balakot has been reactivated as per media reports today. What steps will India take?

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

1) VMT. Is'nt the Pralay of 740 mm diameter (not 680 mm) and greater range/payload ? Why was it not pushed earlier ?


2) Is the 420 mm Prahar restricted to a range of 150 km or does it too have a 280+ km range like the type 16, Nasr and others ?

3) Why was the Prahar not tested between 2011 and 2018 ? Given what you said, the Prahar (with conventional warheads) in numbers appears to be what we need most urgently.

4) Were'nt the BM-21 and BM-27 Uragan the most used MBRLs in the recent Donbas conflict ? The DPR/LPR and the Russians appear to have used these effectively (with limited use of the Smerch) to wipe out battalions of Ukrainians after fixing their location. If so, do'nt our BM-21s and Pinaka 1/2's still retain some relevance ?

Kritavarma

saurav jha said...

Hi Prasun,

Where do you see current situation in Middle east heading towards ? Has Iran crossed a line with attacking ARAMCO ?

AMIT BISWAS said...

Sir ji....kindly give more insight about this time bomb

https://youtu.be/60k-gGQ2pC4

Who is that mumbai police dcp ??

Anonymous said...

There are few questions I would like to ask from your analysis
1) don’t you think it is impossible lay oil-gas pipe lines from CAR countries with mighty Himalayas being big barrier? You once told Karakoram Highway was always shut for 4 months yearly
2)https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/450-500-terrorists-at-terror-launch-pads-presently-4-5-terror-launch-pads-ready-for-infiltration-arm-2105719?pfrom=home-topscroll
What will be this time IN frigate launched brahmos missile on Balakote?
3) what happened to GE supplied 99 engines to HAL ? R they rotting? Is MWF and lca af mk2 are two different projects or same
Ron

Enigma said...

Greetings Sir,
I have the following questions:

1)I know that Afghanistan does not recognize the Durand Line.Do they claim the entirety of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa or just areas of KPK west of the Indus river(some places say that they claim the entire KPK and some say that they claim the areas of KPK west of the Indus river)?
2)When that great day comes and India liberates Gilgit-Baltistan,will India also capture some key areas in KPK(like Mansehra District which contains many terrorist camps and Broghil Pass in Northern Chitral which is the Northernmost part of Pakistan,the capture of which would literally put India "on top" of Pakistan)?
3)Would the international community accept if India does 2)One of the two places mentioned above is Mansehra District which has terrorist camps in which terrorists meant for India are trained.If India captures it(and Broghil Pass in Northern Chitral) and argues that since it contains terrorists and Pakistan is unable to(willingly or unwillingly)deal with them,it captured that area,would the international community find that argument to be acceptable?

Regards,
Enigma.

Arpit Kanodia said...

Sir what is the TTL of Tejas aircrafts?

I know the fatigue tests are still not completed. But people must hold some idea that approximately what it would be?

The ADA chief during IOC said 30 years.
But that depend on how many flying hours are conducted each year,


There is no source that even describe the approx TTL (in flying hours) of Tejas.

Anonymous said...

https://youtu.be/aVQX-r2eHTA
Sir every media has muted at 9.10 what do you think trump said when reporter asked about Kashmir situation ?
What do you think when trump said Modi was aggressive in his speech yesterday n do you think Pakistan will change the US or any other country on Kashmir situation?

Sai

AMIT BISWAS said...

Any credibility about the news of pakistan navy getting aircraft carrier from china??

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To HARSH: 1) No, they were the Pinaka-1s. 2) You are overlooking the several hundreds of 130mm M-46 howitzers that are available & they are now being upgunned by OFB to 155mm/45-cal standard. 3) If the country’s economy registers the desired growth rates per annum in future, then for sure additional Rafales will be ordered.

To RAD: That is exactly why I had repeatedly stated that such dubious websites should not be paid attention to. If at all the ‘Uttam’ AESA-MMR is a functional product, then why not first make use of it as ground-to-air fire-control radar that can be used for anti-UAV purposes by integrating it with this:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yx3i_42Wg-4/Vv8IOku1TAI/AAAAAAAAKgM/6uxAxbHZBEY9OsqsI9aeApiSNpPxsifFA/s1600/DRDO-conceptualised%2BDEW.jpg

And here is Taiwan's home-grown Jian Xiang anti-radiation suicide drone (Harpy lookalike), used for attacking China's S-300PMU & S-400 LR-SAMs:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFDU_X1VAAA9d-r.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFDU_X2UcAASFkd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFDU_X2UUAUI4b2.jpg

To RAM BHARADWAJ: Only eight F414INS6 turbofans have been procured, not 99.

To SIDHARTH: Such BSMs can be developed within 2 years, rest assured. Here is what NORINCO of China has developed:

https://assets.shephardmedia.com/live/default/media/cache/images/images/article/FIREDRAGON/881e517f0fd1953a1c9976f3451b814e.jpg

https://defense-update.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/firedragon_750.jpg

http://www.b14643.de/Spacerockets/Specials/Iskander-like_missiles/M20_3.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrK-d_QU8AA9fPZ.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrK-d-sU8AAacFH.jpg

And here’s South Korea’s KTSSM:

https://defence-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/22528252_1249918615114441_6198930654524220921_n.jpg

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3m9PeAxOsrA/WrNDrY_JdHI/AAAAAAAAvr8/DFWLTqjSE_Ed4EGnYNCwiGctzjiNaQ2rgCLcBGAs/s1600/South_Korea_New_artillery_unit_equipped_with_KTSSM_ballistic_missile_925_002.png

http://img.bemil.chosun.com/nbrd/data/10044/upfile/201906/20190612091633.jpg

North Korea’s Pukguksong KN-23 SRBM: https://rodgersericv.neocities.org/NKIskander2.jpg

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Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To GLAGINYE: 1) It is a field medical base with just an attached helipad. 2) One must not get carried away by political statements or Sony Playstation-like scenarios. For instance, the seeds of the birth of Bangladesh were sown on December 25, 1962 when Sheikh Mujibur Rehaman had a midnight meeting with Indian diplomats at the Indian Consulate in Dacca. So, a nine-year gestation period. Similar will be the situation WRT PoJK. 3) Steps were initiated last June itself when the IA began incessant fire-assaults against military targets across the LoC. Once this on for 6 months non-stop, it will bring the PA to the negotiating table, just as the PA in November 2003 declared a unilateral ceasefire.

To KRITAVARMA: 1) Pralay in its present configuration isn’t exactly a road-mobile system. It requires further development & re-engineering. 2) Prahar can go out to 200km if reqd. But it is strictly meant for carrying TNW-type warheads & will be ineffective when armed with conventional warheads. 3) Because at that time the GoI had not yet made up its mind on whether to go or not to go for TNWs. 4) Not wuite. It was the TOS-1 MBRL firing rockets fitted with thermobaric/FAE warheads that was most effective.

To SAURAV JHA: Definitely the Saudis will retaliate once they can establish beyond any doubt the exact launch-point of the cruise missiles & drones. Because such precise hits thanks to digital scene-matching algorithms cannot be expected to be newfound Iranian innovations. Hence, their Soumar GLCMs were in fact Ukraine-origin Kh-65s that had been smuggled out of Ukraine in a joint China-Iran operation 18 years ago. And since the ultimate clash between the Sunnis & Shia has already been foretold, one therefore has every reason to expect the worst. In such a case, securing supplies of crude oil & LNG from either the Persian Gulf or the Red Sea via SLOCs will become both difficult & expensive. Hence, India’s long-term energy security interests demand that land-based GLOCs be created via J & k after achieving geographic contiguity with Central Asia.

To RON: 1) Himalayan Range does not extend to Central Asia. Only the Karakoram & Hindu Kush Ranges do. How should any pipeline buried underground be vulnerable to snowfall or landslides, which affect over-ground structures like highways? Do submarine cables get broken whenever there are earthquakes affecting the seabed? 2) The far greater threat is now from the enemy using cargo-carrying quadcopter drones for crossing the IB & WB in northern Punjab/southern Jammu for ferrying in small arms & ammo, plus narcotics. Also, what about the disputed mudflats in the Sir Creek area? While the PN has raised Marines detachments, what has been the IN’s response? Has its Sagar Prahari bal attained its sanctioned strength of 10,000 personnel? 3) Only 8 were ordered & all have been delivered.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ENIGMA: 1) Afghanistan claims ALL the landmass that lies to the west of the Indus River. 2 & 3) That won’t be possible as it will then be viewed as aggression, & not a legitimate reqmt. Terror-training camps can be located anywhere, even inside urban areas & military cantonments deep within the hinterland.

To ARPIT KANODIA: So far, only 1,000-hour TTSL of the airframe has been established, since only 1 of the Tejas prototypes has been subjected to flights for such a period. Ground-based fatigue tests are not meant for calculating the TTSL of the airframe, but are rather meant for establishing the structural limits of the airframe & the sustainable G-load limit of the airframe. The definitive TTSL of the airframe will be established only after 1 of the production-series Tejas Mk.1s is flown by the IAF for an appreciable period, i.e. 3 to 5 years & if during this period no airframe sub-structures are in need of any replacement & are not affected by G-loads & corrosion, onlt then will one be able to make a realistic calculation. A lot also depends on the IAF’s flying schedule. For instance, when undergoing conversion, a pilot has to log in at least 25 flying houres per month for a 6-month period, following which he/she has to log in only 120 hours per annum in order to stay type-certified.

By the way, what I had proposed way back in 1996 to the GoI seems to have been understood & accepted:

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/passport-aadhaar-all-in-one-amit-shah-moots-idea-of-multipurpose-card-6019814/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCbmfiRpPgw

It is high time that the UPA/Nandan Nilekani combine stands exposed for the utter mess they had created by creating yet another database silo in the form of UID/Aadhaar, instead of merging the UID/Driving Licence/Voter ID Card as 1 unitary document that would also be proof of citizenship & its number would be the same as one's Passport number. That way, each & every Census conducted will also serve the purpose of keeping the National Citizenship Register updated.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SAI: LoLz! You are needlessly getting perturbed & that too over the wrong soundbytes. Any anyone needs to worry, then the following soundbytes are the most worrisome of all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma417QtQHsM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EAft-1ZkSU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLhHYTg8cRs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOU74CTZwTE

1) IAKN claimed that Pakistan committed the greatest mistake by joining the US-led War on Terror. In other words, according to IAKN the war on terror was unjust & uncalled for. Any global takers for such an outrageous assessment? Will the US be able to forgive & forget such remarks & that too from a country whose citizens were permitted to burn the US Embassy in Islamabad as far back as November 21, 1979, way before the initiation of the Afghan civil war & the post-9/11 US-led War on Terror???

2) IAKN has claimed that China represents all the ideals of the Riyaasat-e-Medina. Do the ideals include forcible cultural engineering & destruction of Muslim places of worship on an industrial scale inside China?

3) IAKN has demanded restoration of status quo as of August 5 inside J & K. Does he even realise that this means restoration of Articles 370 & 35A, which are India's constitutional clauses and if they indeed were to re-apllied over J & K then it would automatically mean that J & K is an integral part of India since constitutional clauses can be applied only within sovereign territory & not in any disputed territory? So, is IAKN & all other Pakistani politicians now acknowledging that J & K is an integral part of sovereign India? This must be giving jitters to GHQ in Rawalpindi, since the PA's officially stated position has been that it has never acknowledged J & K's accession to India on October 26, 1947 & consequently clauses like Artucle 370 & 35A have no importance or relevance!

Thus, we now have a bunch of headless chicken-like Pakistani politicians from both ruling & opposition parties whose narratives are at loggerheads with those of the PA. What a fuck-up!!!

And for those who want to know why exactly Pakistan wants to covet Kashmir, here it is, explained in detail by the so-called 'President of AJK (watch from 30:16 till 44:46):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-LAct7ua4M&list=PLaH3tDQQle4uTdTTZh7fVhDsirsTR7j4Q&index=6

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

Thanks for your analysis & valuable links on a variety of very relevant matters. Would like to share this very relevant analysis of Tahir Aslam Gora who as usual calls out the establishment Pakistanis who are losing credibility with the Pakistani Junta just as the 'Hollow & Shallow Left' with Indians. Discerning Pakistanis realise that India & the US share dreams & look forward to a prosperous peaceful future not just markets, they wonder what Pakistanis have to offer the world. Lovely impartial analysis accepting that there is no hyphenation anymore between India & Pakistan. So what does India & Pakistan fTALK about? Negotiate certainly, but as you have revealed so many times, India has a number of lacunae to correct in it's Military strategy & technology as well as CI tactics before India can dictate terms to Pakistan and/or cut it to size.

https://youtu.be/d7Q0KmAvywE

Pavan said...

Dear Prasun,

When India purchased P8I, we did request lots of modifications. But when we bought Su30 or Rafale we asked for lots of customization. All the customization and qualifications were borne by the taxpayers. Why didn't the IAF just purchase what was available. Why attempt to integrate Litening pod when Damocles was already available? Same thing with Su30.

When we don't have money, isn't it a waste to spill it over customized variants instead of buying readily available platforms?

Harsh said...

Sir,

Has this earthquake given the escape route to Pak army & Imran Khan to tone down their Kashmir rhetoric and divert attention of their gullible & radicalised population? bcoz they were not being able to afford a face saver this time.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Results of today's earthquake (Zalzalaa) in Mirpur, PoK:

https://twitter.com/MughalAmiruddin/status/1176476854909308928

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ly3HgkaPPc

Smoke/phospherous cannisters ejected by MBRL rockets (fired at Leepa/Karnah Valley being shown as cluster munitions:

https://twitter.com/MughalAmiruddin/status/1176149904068108288

Rajesh Mishra said...

This Zalzala in POK at this juncture is absolutely a very bad omen for the whole Pakistan. Modiji certainly knows it.

Ayush said...

Sir, how should India respond to this Islamofascist mass murderer? twitter.com/YusufDFI/status/1176542729653743618

DAshu said...

Sir, don't you think this earthquake is a god given chance to PA/Niazi to distract their home audience from international Blunders and failures they are committing one after another without break.
What triggered IAKN to officially and on records to accept that PA trained terrorists?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To KAUSTAV: VMT. Here are more self-inflicted goals by IAKN at the UN yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-b1tE-LQyc

Just like in 1965 when OP GIBRALTAR failed to elicit the Kashmiri uprising, after September 27 too there will be not even a whimper emerging from the Kashmir Valley, thereby once again proving Pakistan’s strategic miscalculation. The whole world except Pakistan is aware of this & hence all the whining/wailing/shouting/scowling will be used only for domestic consumption inside Pakistan. Meanwhile, fresh protests have erupted over Gilgit due to illegal mining concessions awarded to China:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNkNeWAFjnw&t=21s

And as for overcoming a number of lacunae, the latest is the intellectual deficiency being displayed by such JNU Professors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBUeop08lj0

Thus, SADMON Jacob now joins the likes of Dr.Vipin Narang in ASSUMING that revocation of a no-first-use nuclear doctrine automatically means India will be the first to employ nuclear WMDs inside an adversary’s territory! These nitwits are not willing to even consider that nuclear WMDs can always be used inside one’s own territory as a means of self-defence. Clearly, such nitwits haven’t yet heard Brig (Ret’d) Feroz Hassan Khan’s recent statements at the Stimson Center in which drew up some future limited war scenarios. And what he had said has since come true, i.e. about the IB coming under a lot of stress. The PA’s Jihadi Tanzeems have already begun employing UAVs for smuggling in weapons, FICN & narcotics inside India, as explained here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LtStlbR28U&t=2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyp8VVSCl3Q&t=257s

And this is the countermeasure that India will be importing from Germany, following competitive evaluations jointly conducted by the BSF & CISF:

https://drone-detection-system.com/app/uploads/2019/04/Aaronia_AARTOS_Drone_Detection_System.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CoQLolnJ3g

To PAVAN: Because what India wanted wasn;t being made available on the P-8Is. Similarly, when Litening LDPs, Targo HMDS etc etc are already being used by several IAF combat aircraft, it makes sense to srandardise & order the same for the Rafale fleet as well. This saves money, & does not increase costs (which you have wrongly ASSUMED).

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To HARSH & DASHU: It has added to the headaches of the IAKN-led GoP because so far even the rehabilitation work connected to the 2005 earthquake & the 2010/2012 landslides & floods has not yet been completed. All this will further increase the already prevailing discontent within PoK. This is perhaps how the Gods of Yore dispense justice. And to add salt to the wounds, IAKN's prime ministerial spokesperson has hailed/praised the earthquake in Mirpur/Jhelum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVgSme7TkBs

And such inhuman retards expect to covet Kashmir!!!

And finally, the ‘desi’ patrakaars have at last discovered what has been going on at KRL in Kahuta:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wossWyPcq8w

But all this was known since 2018 itself through this report:

http://isis-online.org/uploads/isis-reports/documents/Kahuta_Update_30May2018_Final_with_time-lapse.pdf

So, it now seems that the much talked-about gas enrichment cascades at KRL did not come up anytime in the 1980s (as I had always stated, since at that time all of Dr A Q ‘Bhopali’ Khan’s smuggled industrial ware ended up in Hanzhong in China’s Xi’an province), but began coming up only since 2015!!!

To AYUSH: LoLz! His days are numbered, mark my words. For he in his speech mentioned all outstanding disputes & when it came to the one concerning his own country & in which the UN is involved, i.e. the conflict with Greece over Cyprus, he conveniently his country's posture/policy as being the righteous one & blamed others for being the disruptors. The Gods of Yore don’t take kindly to such selective amnesia. So starting with the loss of the F-35, his dreams of developing an indigenous Gen-5 MRCA too will flounder due to all Western OEMs refraining from striking industrial partnerships with Turkey, & a frustrated Turkish Air Force will eventually organise another coup to overthrow his regime. And even then the Muslim Turks will continue killing the Muslim Kurds just like Pakistan's Punjabi Muslims continue to slaughter the Muslim Pashtuns & Muslim Balochis. Thus, Erdogan & IAKN are the last persons in the world to talk about Islamophobia.

Here's the full speech of Erdogan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40jXJhEa7jw

Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRdwfVxX_TM

Sumit said...

prasunji...the Ruptly link you posted about the UNGA presser by Imran Khan Nazi
Is a classic example of a bungled up Pakistani political establishment.
These days he is openly admitting Pakistan to be a state sponsor of terror. Why are they not in a denial mode anymore?
This Cocaine sniffing stupid f@%k (CSSF) is damaging Pakistan's established narratives by talking full baloney at international platforms.
Has he been unleashed by Bajwa for good ...or they want him to run like a mad dog before he meets the fate of Benazir Bhutto. 2020 or 2021 is when we hear the news of Shaheed IAK Nazi?

Harsh said...

Sir, Forgive my limited knowledge

1) consider this: Skyshield pod on centreline pylon, 2x fuel tanks on inner wing pylon, 2x active radar guided missiles, 2x IR guided missiles & an external IRST pod in place of litening pod... doesn't this combination make TejasMK1 a decent air defence fighter with good endurance??

2) TejasMK1... Both IOC & FOC will feature el/m-2032? TejasMK1A will feature el/m-2052??

Kaustav said...

Pasunda,

Thanks. Have seen the YouTube link of that discussion before too. But isn't the situation alarming enough to require intervention by more capable powers, if TNWs are kept ready, possibly mated to their missiles. Should these not be taken out of commission even without a campaign for retaking territory with Pakistan?

Nayandeep said...

Respected sir is it now a matter of political go ahead to retake pojk..as the army chief said that the forces are prepared. Prasun sir if possible can you please throw some light on what is the kind of opposition that the Indian forces will encounter when the decision is made to enter pojk.if god forbid TNW is used on our formations do we have aur defense against such an attack, NBC suits or are we prepared to take the losses and retaliate in other ways. These are the few questions troubling me since the last few days and as usual other defense super experts add to the confusion. Regards

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

https://www.rt.com/news/469571-china-amphibious-assault-ship/

An amphibious With a displacement of 40,000 tons, a length of 250 meters and upto 30 attack and transport helicopters, amphibious tanks and armored vehicles and air-cushioned landing craft, this looks like a very focused build for the Chinese Navy for an amphibious assault vessel.

Which theatre do you thnk this vessel is planned for? Is it only for the South China sea disputed islands that it has assimilated? Does China fear a military take over of the Islands and this vessel as the defence platform. Or do you feel this vessel has a blue-ocean strategic dominance focus.

Would this vessel act as an additional threat to Andaman Islands?

Kane

Anonymous said...

https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/status/1176859974317854720?s=20
President Trump repeatedly pushed for the Ukrainian president to reopen an investigation of his potential 2020 rival, former VP Joe Biden & his son, and asked the Ukrainian leader to work w/ Giuliani & AG Barr on the issue, according to a transcript of the July call
What do you think? You have told his re-election would happen but with new light of evidence it’s tough call

https://www.dawn.com/news/1507290/religion-has-nothing-to-do-with-terrorism-says-pm-imran-at-un-conference-on-hate-speech

The irony in all of that is al Qaeda, the Islamic State, the Taliban, etc. tell their followers that it is their religious duty to die in the cause of establishing a caliphate. Khan of course knows all of this.

Ron

dilbert said...

Ron,

The "new evidence" against Trump is garbage. It will make Trump's re-election easier, not harder. The US electorate, in general (i.e. leaving aside the die-hard Trump-haters), are not fools, they are fairly level-headed.

Even with this garbage "new evidence", if the election were held today, Trump would win with a stronger mandate than last time, and the Republicans would end up with control of both houses of Congress.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SUMIT: here is a concise exp[lanation of all the wrongs of IAKN’s narrative:

https://youtu.be/WouQuhXgMr4

And these revisionist & self-righteous acts will further alienate him from the rest of the world:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4PLDU8mU_k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZOtjHVcOzQ

To KAUSTAV: If countries like Iran & India have built gas centrifuge cascades underground, it does not make any sense for Pakistan to make an over-ground cascade plant & that too which is only 40km away from the IB & LoC. Consequently, I am more inclines to believe that it is a final-assembly industrial facility for some kind of SRBM whose IPR is China-owned. Meanwhile, here are 2 interesting developments being reported:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNOaaDdTMP0&t=320s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHnQV3E5iSA&t=16s

And this is the Chinese OEM whose drones are being used for corssing the IB in both Punjab & rajasthan:

https://www.ttaviation.org/solution/agriculture?gclid=Cj0KCQjwoKzsBRC5ARIsAITcwXHmatlotbT6eLHBap0BLZ6xjFdhsqnGeJ78-lOk90wM5kXzTY7wrlMaArRKEALw_wcB

Meanwhile, the entire KPK province is being prepared for coming under the ambit of martial law:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1K_0Cb7LcE

To NAYANDEEP: There will be heavy opposition that will be manpower-intensive, but the concentration of overwhelming fire-assaults will go a long way in causing huge attrition losses to the PA. If Pakistan uses TNWs anywhere inside J & K then it will forever lose all moral claims to Kashmir. Besides, since Pakistan most covets the rivers of J & K, any usage of TNWs inside J & K will render the waters from such rivers totally useless.

To KANE: The LHDs are meant for transporting the PLAN’s Marine Brigades to crisis-points around the globe wherever sizeable numbers of Chinese citizens are located & if they ever need to be evacuated en masse due to some emergency (like the ones in South Sudan & Libya), then such LHDs will come in handy as the facilitators of safe & swift evacuations.

To RON: There’s no need to resort to conspiracy theories, since the transcript of POTUS’ conversation with his Ukrainian counterpart can be read here:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

Anonymous said...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YqlYmOvns_0

Your comments on this video.

rad said...


hi prasun
rakesh bhaduria is a rajput and not a dalit as wrongly stated above by a blogger. he became chief due to pure merit. Namo will select the best