Thus, by doing the math, we
can safely conclude that at least one Type 877EKM SSK (out of the eight
remaining in service), one Scorpene SSK (out of four as of two days ago),
one Class 209/Type 1500 SSK (out of four) and perhaps the Project 971 Shchuka-A
SSGN (INS Chakra) are at sea on patrol at any given time.
Legacy CMS Architecture Of PLAN DDGs
Meanwhile, images (below) of the combat management system (CMS) suites of the latest guided-missile destroyers (DDG) operated by the PLA Navy prove that they are all derivates of the mid-1980s-era, Thomson-CSF-supplied TAVITAC CMS suite, three of which were sold by France to China in the mid-1980s.
82 comments:
Prasun,
1-good to know that assets are being put to use .. what is an ideal count of subs india needs given its aspirations in IOR. my take - 12/16 conventional +18/22 ssn + 7/8 ssbns--tot=38/42
2-on the assets procurement front, given the news/rumors/govt speak regarding P75i.. it seems to be happening and based on some of your prev replies either SMX or S80 platform is best suited considering the ready infra with mazagoan dock. how will russia react since its been going to the town with its amur offer. Also you have been stating that the need of the hour is to go for nuclear subs.. can India co-develop nuke subs with russia or use a russian base platform apart from the arihant class design? alternatively how does India placetate the ruskies given their tantrums wrt panister/ biho procurement, which is still in limbo (btw is it any closer to a resolution?)
3- Can't the IN opt for the panister m on its current & future warships thus getting a win-win deal for both the countries.. corvettes/destoyers/frigates will need a very short range close-in weapons system apart from the vls launched ones. these will replace the existing kashtan systems
4-given the pathetic design skills of the navy's design bureau/ ineptness of the IN decision makers(eg 6kT warships with weapons package comparable to a 2kT warship from any decent foreign shipyard ) opting for the latest corvette/frigate design from the russian shipyards like the Gorshov class frigate(22350) & Gremyashchiy/Merkuriy (20385/6)class corvettes should go a long way to bolster Indian navy in the IOR region along with improving the design skills.. they boast of impressive configs
5- more news on russians planning to buy RNEL via USC should tie to the above pts
6- IN still fantasizing 3rd aircraft carrier INS vishal.. can't they opt for 4 light aircraft carrier compatible LHD's like the american USS america or the turkish Anodolu thus fulfilling both the needs? a super carrier can be considered later when INS vikramditya nears end of it life .. say in 15-20 yrs. 4 light carriers will give more presence & coverage all year around .. add the fat that the assets are more dispersed & hence more challenging for enemy to target & destroy
7 Will India buy the predator MQ 9 B atleast for the IN? if yes, wot qt? if no, what are the alternatives?
7- Not all MKI's should be upgraded to super sukhoi stds .. some should be modified to carry antiship brahmos to add to the current count of 42(2nd tranche of @44 rafales will fill in the IAF void). This should provide a great deterrent to china/anyone in the near medium term in IOR thus providing net security to swing island nations like maldivis/Mauritius/Seychelles/Sri lanka/ fiji etc. this will be a confidence booster for them too .. your view pls
8 Will Vietnam ever agree to allow India to station some MKI's in the country.. given China's nature. a few brahmos carrying ones will be welcomed by vietnam, philippnes & even indonesia i guess
9- How diff is the latest incarnation of the T72 - B3m from improved ajeya CIA? shud INdia opt for the B3M upgrade? also any progress on the gear system need to mate the new 1000 hp engine?
prasun,
to add
10 - With acceptance of necessity for the first 12 helicopters is being approved, what happens to KA226T deal, with Putin's upcomming visit.. guess its too late to pull back unless we somehow offer towork on ka92 ^ buy @75 Ka226T off teh shelg given that there are some scenarios where they will certainly be useful. Also can the large ICG have any req for the naval variant of 226 on board their ships/boats? given its small footprint
11= Mariam nawaz sending out conciliatory feelers to pak army in exchange of evicting IM.. has the army been successful in killing 2 birds with one stone --quelling the rebellion & getting rid of albatross like IM?
12 has qatar also asked pakis to payback their loan , if yes why?
Mr. Prasun
1)What is the status of our Strategic partnership with UAE and KSA and other arab countries?
2)Till when will the orders for 13 NAMICA launchers and 443 Nag Missiles be delivered?
3)You said in one of your threads that after the orders for the above are fullfilled in the next order HELINA will be ordered instead of Nag will it be compatible with NAMICA and will there be any issues?
4) Are our Garuds active in Afghanistan or were they in the past or any other Indian SOF or our equivalents of CIA SAD/SOG?
Thank you
aarpee
Prasun,
Can you also share the armament of these submarines like the torpedoes and their range, the SLCMs they carry and their range, their sonar suites and their range etc. Further what different role can UNS Chakra capable of as they seem to have same torpedoes as that of EKM 877 SSKs except endurance.
Can you also share the operational philosophy of Arihant class subs and their primary role in terms of their deployment pattern. What is the status of K4 and K5 missiles as without them they can not be considered as strategic assets against PLA Navy.
Dear Prasun,
It's good to see HAL is going ahead with limited series production of LUH. Can you please tell us what went good that HAL produced such state of the art solution in such a smaller time frame? It's amazing actually!!!!
To JUST_CURIOUS: 1) The images make ot evident that the Type-977EKM SSKs are putting out to sea in lesser numbers despite being available in larger nos. The same applies to the Class 209/Type 1500 SSKs. As per global norms, at least half of the SSK fleets of these 2 types ought to be on operational patrol, with one being dedicated for training purposes & one undergoing a medium or periodic refit. The number of Scorpene SSKs out at sea will be much lower since most of them are reqd for type-specific crew conversion training schedules, but patrolling will increase by 2022.
2) As I have explained several times before, acquiring a new-design SSK from an altogether new OEM is a definite no-brainer since this will involve doing away with the existing Scorpene SSK industrial production infrastructure & procuring an all-new set of industrial production infrastructure, plus additional type-specific training for the MDSL workforce. Sound common-sense therefore dictates that the existing Scorpene SSK industrial production infrastructure & type-certified workforce be put to use for producing a modified Scorpene SSK design (SMX). But then, this will create a competition for funds between the P-75I project & the SSN project & just cannot see how funding for both can be forthcoming, no matter how one does the math.
3) As I had explained several times before, the Kashtan-M CIWS has proved to be sub-optimal when operating in the warm waters of the IOR & hence the IN prefers to use only AK-630M CIWS & Barak-1 PDMS, which in future will be joined by the ‘desi’ SR-SAM.
4) The problem was never about designing any vessel, but about fr4eezing the design at the appropriate time so that all long-lead sub-systems can be ordered in one go. Such warship-building discipline has not been adhered to for the past 20 years (it was adhered to in the 1980s & 1990s only) & hence the delays & cost overruns with the P-17/P-17A FFGs, P-28 ASW corvettes & the P-15A/P-15B DDGs.
5) Even if Russia buys Reliance Naval, how will it be able to complete delivering the 5 NOPVs since the IN has already cancelled that contract & those vessels anyway were designed by a US-based company (Allion)? Russia’s USC is instead interested in Reliance Naval for building only fleet replenishment tankers for the IN & VLCC vessels for the Shipping Corp of India.
6) There’s no money for any domestic LPH production project. The only option is to procure additional ex-US Navy LPDs for US$48 million each.
7) All existing Su-30MKIs need upgrading as their existing mission avionics suites are already 20 years old & hence they won’t be able to cope with the demands of future offensive air warfare scenarios.
8) Vietnam will find it very insulting to host the air force of any foreign country. The VPAF is perfectly capable of ensuring the protection of Vietnam’s airspace. Both Vietnam & Indonesia had procured the Yakhont early in this decade & hence they don’t need BrahMos-1.
9) The DRDO-developed T-72CIA Mk.2 is comparable with the best upgrade package that is available today & has ELBIT Systems-built digital hunter-killer fire-control system, ELBIT-supplied digital SDR & DRDO-developed ERA tiles plus an APU & new-design radiators from the private-sector.
10) The Ruskies are already sitting on money already paid by India for the IL-214 MRTA & FGFA projects that never went through & hence Russia won’t complain if the Ka-226T LUH contract isn’t inked. 12) Not yet.
To AARPEE: 1) Haven’t you been reading about the UAE & Saudi investments into the Mukesh Ambani-controlled RELIANCE Group? 2) Those have already been delivered as they were pre-production prototypes. The series-production orders involve more than 150 NAMICAs. 3) Both NAG & HELINA use the same fire-controlled suite, be it on NAMICA or on the LCH or Rudra, i.e. the COMPASS optronic turret from ELBIT Systems. 4) Why should any Indian SOF go to Afghanistan when the Afghan SOF are more than capable of handling matters? The only Indian SOG for covert operations is the SFF & its mandate is to operate only along the LAC.
To VED: Had already detailed them all long time ago here:
http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2016/06/drdo-developed-bdl-built-varunastra-hwt.html
http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2017/12/ins-kalvari-s-21-ssks-on-board-systems.html
No IN-operated SSBN has to date any SLBM while at sea nor are the HWTs available for arming such SSBNs.
To ASD: LoLz! You really reckon that taking 10 years to develop a single-engined LUH is an amazing feat??? Elsewhere in the world, such helicopters have only a 3-year developmental period. Next, you will probably state that yesterday’s action by the IA along the LoC was excellent, when in reality this videoclip clearly shows that ATGMs are absolutely useless against structure made of concrete:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bTVtfUv19Q&t=27s
That’s because ATGMs like Konkurs that were used have shaped-charge warheads & not high-explosive blast-fragmentation warheads. And nho, those were not Spike ATGMs since the Spike is a top-attack missile, unlike the Konkurs. In fact, since the IAF has already taken possession of 7 Rafales, the PA should have been deterred from conducting such cross-LoC shellings. But obviously India’s conventional deterrence posture is not deterring the PA. So what is going wrong & why is no one even raising such issues in the public domain? Here are some tweets about what happened yesterday:
https://twitter.com/MughalAmiruddin/status/1327284913620529153
https://twitter.com/TariqNaqash/status/1327173093316583425
https://twitter.com/TariqNaqash/status/1326795685845413896
https://twitter.com/TariqNaqash/status/1327232275927478272
And this discussion amply proves that the reason why the IA was caught napping along the LAC last May was not due to the ineptitude of the IA, but rather the lack of Indian political will reqd for pre-empting China’s nefarious plans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w2JUwnhW90
-In fact, since the IAF has already taken possession of 7 Rafales, the PA should have been deterred from conducting such cross-LoC shellings. But obviously India’s conventional deterrence posture is not deterring the PA. So what is going wrong & why is no one even raising such issues in the public domain?-
Sir, you do know where to rub and how to add salt/mirchi to maximize pain perfectly or rather ointment to heal the wound.
Russia’s Armed Forces Re-Equipped & re-Trained: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYxXijL9_BQ
Suffren SSN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIuEuy3FsyY
Software Defined Radio Explained: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG0D3d4p2aI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI0qXPqufBY
Tale of Two Bridges: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll6jlE_LavA&t=42s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMbq021HDRo
Prasunda,
Any pak military killed in our fire assaults on the LoC yesterday ? The tweets by the Paki journalists you link indicate civilian casualties only.
Satyaki
Prasun Da,can you declutter the Drone warfare success of Azerbaijan in the recent war and what is the scenario in the Sino Pak India context. I feel we are hopelessly behind
Dear Sir ,
From last couple of months the number of IA men KIA for IA increased.
Is the PA using new bait tactics - dig some tunnel and wait for IA to group , meanwhile do drone based stalking and dropping munitions by drones ?
What is going on ?
The recently concluded azerbaijan - armenia conflict proves drone warfare is very crucial
In general some questions on the drone warfare
Defensive role in conventional warfare
1. Armed drones launch - Do they require air fields or can they be operated from urban areas as well ?
2.How to detect such drones , seems the one of the drones operation main target is to overwhelm the target air defense system and crash them ?
>> 12 out of 12 aremenia radar systems destroyed by azeris drone
3.How to create a no-fly zone for drones ? Meaning how can we secure the air from enemy drones once we secure an area , Deploying QR sam will it help even against swarm of drones too ?
4. Can there be mobile structures quickly installed in the fields to protect from drone dropped munitions for cavalry ?
5. Drones counter measures - Electronically can we jam them using QR sam missiles ?
6. Drones operating fields - which areas are they effective ? Open fields or can it be used in jungle warfare ?
7. Are there anti-drones effective weapons , like drones that also function as anti armed drones . Jamming them or crashing on them
8. What is the radius within which the command n cntrol center for drone operations require to operate ?
9. Openly parading on tanks and BMP & installing arty guns to secure an enemy area now is very riskier , isnt it ?
10. Is there any counter measure for drone warfare without moving up the escalation ladder ?
11. Fighter jets- how effective is to counter drones , can the fighter jet guns kill the drones ?
12. electronic forensics wise how to determine the drone was operated from the particular area and accepted by international forums .
Offensive operation in conventional wars
1. How to neutralize drone operators and its command n control center ? Is it possible in real time to find out the drone launch area when drone swarm arrive and strike by missile ? is it considered moving up escalation ladder ? What is india's declared policy on the use of drones ?
2. Can the drone support systems be hacked and rendered useless ?
3. Do we have artys that out range the drones ?
4. What capability India posesss on swarm of drones technology ?
Dear Prasun and all blog readers,
I wish you all very happy Deepavali!!!!
Sir, found one mast superhit movie- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko1cQw2i2Tk
India should count its days to be blacklisted by FATF now. lolz
Prasun have these MOUs been carried through to actual production of spare parts?
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/indian-russian-companies-sign-seven-mous-at-defexpo/articleshow/63750884.cms
"City-based Ananth Technologies and JSC Concern Radio-Electronic Technologies (KRET) inked pact for product support to develop defence systems and to manufacture spare parts and providing service and maintenance for such items."
"Space Era and Concern Radio-Electronic Technologies formed a strategic partnership for technical and logistics support to ensure maximum operational availability of SU-30 MKI and Helicopters of MI 8, MI 17 and MI 35 Type helicopters."
Prasun Da,
Happy Kali Pujo and Happy Diwali to you and all your loved ones.
1. The QRSAM launched today is basically a SAM version of the Astra air to air missile with an active radar homing head, isn’t it?
2. Will this QRSAM eventually replace the Spyder SAM ?
3. How many fire launch platoon will be included in this QRSAM
Thanks,
VIKRAM
Sir why cant use drones to target PA bunkers or posts like in Nagorno Karabakh?
To SATYAKI: You are being selective in your observations, since I had given more weblinks than just those tweets. This is known as missing the woods for the trees. Taken in totality, both sides have evidently suffered both military & civilian casualties since there is no known munition in existence that can distinguish between civilians & military personnel. And this will continue as a war of attrition until punitive deterrent fire-assaults are launched by either side. To give an example, post-9/11 terror attacks, the US retaliated by flattening four countries. That is what punitive deterrence is all about. In the India-Pakistan case, all the forward-deployed Pakistani military personnel along the LoC are the AJK Brigades comprising Mujahid Battalions that are in the PA’s eyes are expendable & therefore their losses does not translate into losses for the PA. Now, either India’s civilian decision-makers don’t understand this, or they do understand but want to carry on with a fruitless war of attrition that imposes costs only on India.
To MANAS, VOICEOFTHENEGLECTED & ANIRUDH: AQll 3 of you are falling into the trap of the kind this arsehole has fallen into:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDmDi_QN3kE
What you are omitting or overlooking is the fact that the war was not between Armenia & Azerbaijan, but between Azerbaijan’s armed forces & the ragtag militia hailing from Nogorno Karabakh. And that’s why the former won because it made full-scale use of all its artillery forces, especially the Smerch-M, which wre used for forcing the Armenian settlers in & around Nogorno Karabakh to flee back into Armenia. And there was nothing Armenia could do because Armenia was at fault through its earlier policies of trying to change the demographic pattern of Nogorno Karabakh but at the same time not being seen to openly support the militia of Nogorno Karabakh. And that’s exactly why Armenia had no other option but to cede territory in return for a ceasefire. Hence, from beginning to end, the limited conflict was entirely one-sided in Azerbaijan’s favour. Consequently, it cannot be stated that drone warfare gave Azerbaijan the decisive edge.
To VIKRAM GUHA: The very same to you & all your loved ones. 1) Yes. 2) Not replace, but supplement it. 3) It is all shown here:
http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2019/05/desi-active-rf-seeker-for-astra-1-astra.html
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9qezuufZJ2c/XOw07g0UFxI/AAAAAAAARSk/FwgNVoUJ9NYYklYMXE8n_royrtDU2MJ7QCLcBGAs/s1600/QR-SAM%2BBattery%2BSchematic.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MGcmSKQcj40/XPcbuhcIrII/AAAAAAAARUY/GS8T3gSQf5grAKmTelBif23uszRBPfa8ACLcBGAs/s1600/QR-SAM%2BDeployment.jpg
To THEHUNDRED: They remain as just MoUs & not any signed contracts.
To DASHU: Such result-less war of attrition along the LoC will continue for as long as the meaning of punitive conventional deterrence is misunderstood by India’s civilian decision-makers. Add to that the erroneous analysis by the ‘desi patrakaars’ like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPCT4N2VMQ4
In reality, all this is taking place because India’s civilian decision-makers have prevented India’s armed forces from learning the lessons from their past mistakes by keeping all such wartime battle accounts secret, instead of conducting honest & transparent appraisals of what went right or wrong in past military campaigns over the past 70 years. For example: 1) Between 1959 & 1962 the then Govt of India created 77 observation posts along an imaginary line called the LAC even after the IA & IAF had officially stated that these posts could neither be sustained nor defended. Hence, they were easily overrun in Ladakh & Aksai Chin in October 1962. In fact, between then & now, not a single Indian citizen has been able to make it to any of those areas which are shown as India’s borders with China in Aksai Chin! To make matters worse, the then COAS of the IN Gen J N Chowdhury until 1963 continue to lie to the Govt of India about the IA’s dispositions in NEFA & even the then Eastern Army GOC-in-C Lt Gen Sam Maneckshaw was complicit, due to which the IA was allowed by IA HQ to re-enter NEFA only in October 1963 (between then & November 1962 the IA was camping in Assam after being evicted by the PLA). That’s why succesive suspicious Govts of India have always insisted on retaining the ITBP along the LAC as an entity designed for verifying the IA’s claims even till this day!
2) In 1965, during perhaps the most armed forces-friendly Govt of India, the IA HQ & Gen J N Chowdhury again failed by resorting to a fruitless war of attrition all along the western front, instead of consolidating the gains in one particular area of either J & K or the WB between northern Punjab & southern Jammu, not to mention the mistake of not forseeing the need for the IAF’s support in the early hours of September 1, 1965.
3) In 1971, several critical mistakes were made. Firstly, the WRONG DECISION of not attacking East Pakistan in October that year, which could have been done with just 1 IA Division fully equipped with the reqd quantum of field artillery & armoured assets. This is because the 3 PA Divisions then present in East Pakistan were all infantry & they had left behind their field artillery & armoured vehicles back in West Pakistan. In fact, the IA’s Eastern Command HQ had extensively wargamed this scenario & had concluded that it could reach Dhaka within 1 week by adopting fire-n-manoeuvre warfare tactics, instead of engaging in a war of attrition. Despite this, the executive decision to capture Dhaka was taken only on December 9! Nor could the PLA intervene in October since the USSR had forward-deployed around 44 Motorised Divisions against China in Mongolia & Xinjiang. Secondly, the Govt of India’s decision of not violating Pakistani airspace until December 3, when the PAF had already commenced conducting recce sorties over Pathankot & Jammu since November 24. Had the IAF been authorised to conduct recce sorties, it would have emerged that the PA under the US arms embargo & with newly delivered weaponry from China that took time to get accustomed to, could only fight a defensive war of attrition & this is what it did in the Shakargarh area by extensively mining it, while the IA minus any prior warning from the IAF’s recce sorties walked right into the trap by launching its principal land offensive in that very area, again resulting in a fruitless slugfest. And we continue to applaud the gallantry of the likes of 2nd Lt Arun Khetarpal without even bothering to find out why the hell was he placed in a hapless & unwinnable situation during the Battle of Basantar.
Cont'd below...
Predictably, therefore, our present-day ‘netas’ continue with their symbolic praises of the armed forces, without making any long-lasting efforts to reform & strengthen the country’s armed forces as credible institutions.
To DASHU: Here is the full briefing yesterday of the Pakistani FM & the DG of ISPR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSmVvLLqkIw
Here’s what can be assessed from this briefing:
1) As expected, it was at the paleolithic level of efficiency, with several erroneous data.
2) The principal target wasn’t India, but Afghanistan & the principal objective was to create the perception of the present-day Afghan Govt in Kabul being a rogue entity that needs to be substituted ASAP by a Govt of National Unity which will be Afghan Taliban-led.
3) Pakistan is deeply apprehensive about Afghanistan dragging it to the UNSC & producing captured Pakistan-based terrorists belonging to both Al Qaeda & ISIS & who enjoy sanctuaries inside Pakistan.
4) Afghanistan is soon expected to produce material evidence about not only the death of Ayman Al-Zawahiri inside Pakistani soil, but also about the Pakistani eco-system that had sustained Al-Zawahiri.
5) If Pakistan is so concerned about the activities of India-based banks like PNB, then by all means let it take up the issue with the UK, since Nirav Modi is under lock-up there & he can provide all details about his money-laundering activities while operating from both Hongkong & the UK.
6) Obviously Pakistan expects large-scale civil disobedience within PoK & especially within GB after the sham elections within GB & hence is trying to put the blame on both India & Pakistan’s opposition parties for such a state of affairs.
So, rest assured that sych theatrics are meant purely for domestic consumption & will predictably backfire & only then will the likes of Karan Thapar realise how they have been made use of as part of a shortsighted/discreditable disinformation campaign.
Surprise surprise Prasun Babu- instead of firing 200 questions Joydeep Ghosh has decided to fire BS for his take as seen on IDRW. Naturally he would be spitting venom when he reads this from me but what an utter rot! Sure people are allowed to have opinions but when pushing their opinion on others as the gospel that just shows some form of mental inaptitude.
Prasun da....the battle of Nagorno Karabakh seems to have been won by drones and clever tactics by Azerbaijan. Please let us know the important lessons our defense dept should draw from it.
Prasun,
Firstly a very happy Diwali to you,your loved ones and to the readers of this blog!Secondly any news on the purchase of the black shark torpedoes?What was the meeting with the Italians about?as the contract been inked for the Israeli AWACs?Regards!
Mr. Prasun
1)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8yUavzXs6s
Any Requirement for something like this in our Forces?
2)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyjQb3oJi80
Do they move live warheads like this?
Thank you
Vishal
To THEINDIAN: Yes, it indeed is the case that almost everyone is consumed in the DEEPOTHSAV & NOT ONE Indian TV channel yesterday bothered to even mention the words GILGIT-BALTISTAN! So all doubts have now been laid to rest & we can safely infer that all talk about regaining PoK inclusive of GB was just for show & no 'neta' has any serious intention of liberating PoK. Neither any has procurement contract been inked about any imported military hardware over the past 1 month & until matters come to a close inside GB on January 20 next year, the trading of cross-LoC fire-assaults will continue & more Indian citizens will become sacrificial lambs to such fire-assaults & all one will get are more 'bhaashans' (lectures) about giving 'moohtodh jawaab/karaara jawaab' to the enemy. And as expected, the natives of the 'Nation of Idiots' will continue to lap it all up.
Here is some analysis from the 'other side' about what's transpiring in GB:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SguYQC4RJaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pUvB4yOph4&t=213s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YukInmQEGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZTJKlmss5M
And as I had explained yesterday, Afghanistan has accused Pakistan of targetting it by shooting from India's shoulders:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em3r6BOVgAAD8pX?format=jpg&name=large
To VISHAL: Only if the enemy is a ragtag militia will such weapons & platforms be reqd.
Dear Prasun,
Is it true that PLA used directed energy weapon to evict IA from mountain top? If it's true, then it's dangerous!!!! Please describe about this issue.
Prasun,
1- Pathetic reaction by "deshbhakt nationlists govt" who apart from mouthing one or 2 vague stmts given with almost utmost reluctance, have done abs nothing. guess, they are waiting for the US to act or r spooked by the earlier reaction by the new US dispension to aborgation of 370 or the fear of being caught in a 2 front skrimish wth pakis & chinese. The MEA is a disaster when it comes to giving stmts on official stance to say the least as much as they r vague. even the afghans do a better job.. these babus need some training from the pakis & chinese counterparts for sure...
2- RCEP formalised.. what makes these signatories agree to those deal when they r the ones most threatened by the chinese expansionist policies. they r never going to win-plain n simple!! communist party works with a single minded focus? or, did India miss a trick here?
3- for all the gyaan & noise of getting businesses to move out of china, the govt is unable to show concrete wins esp in mfg. no country seems to have faith to invest big in this sector.do they still view the Indian labour force(at times unruly & lacking skills) & laws as too left oriented for their comfort? or is it the federalism which more often than not has been counterproductive given how its features have been abused by political parties ? or plain bureaucratic bungling..
4- All the noise surrounding democracy & rights of HK are well & truly dead.. its BAU for both china & the so called righteous west..
5- the govt still does not have the guts to openly embrace taiwan. Atleast thats one country from where these guys can get assured investments that too in hi tech mfg. it will also send a msg to ASEAN, who simply like to be herded either by the US led west or China. with RCEP, this round goes to china
6- India-EU FTA will it ever materialize? both r bureaucratic dinosaurs
7- Recent moves(official letter) & stmts by a couple of EU parliamentarians - mostly from france against pakis.. what do you make of it?
Hi Prasun ,
Are these claims true to any degree ? Has PLA used DEWs agaist our troops ?
https://idrw.org/ccp-linked-professor-boosts-of-using-direct-energy-weapons-on-indian-troops-at-pangong-lake-area/
why January 20 next year? India lost Pok when it did not threaten or do anything on the news of GB becoming province of pak. This is the might and 1st victory of china. Next Ladakh in the coming days. Strangely current NSA is still shamelessly continuing so as CDS, less said about MEA is better.
Video claims use of directed energy weapons against troops on indo-tibet border. is this true?
https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1327934220967292929
hi prasun
what about the chinese bugger boasting that DEW weapons were used against the IA soldiers and were seen vomiting? very disturbing news . true??
there seems to be a hulabaloo q about a RC model of a flyoing wing that was developed by IIS students and ade ! this was with a RC model jet engine made in tailwan ie Kingtech.
abroad hobbyist make much more complicated larger RC models for the fun of it .The press seems to have lapped it up as though it is a stealth model that is going to herald the adven to stealthAC.
reminds me back in the 80s when i was doing some trike flying in IISc airfield instructed by joel kochlin ie kalkis father a person called Rustom Damania assembled a canard Aircraft LONG EZ from BURT RUTAN scaled composites compnay and called it his own design .
NAL then tried to copy that design and named it the""Light canard research aircraft" Such is the mentality of that fellow. ON top of it the UAV is called Rustom 1- and the bigger one that is flying is called rustom 2 named after a cheat.
tHESE IDIOTS would have done better if they contracted burt and asked him to develop a design based on it for Indian users ! I have a great regrad for Mr BURT RUTAN and is out of the bos thinking inbringing to the world classic aero designs .your views
To BHOUTIK, 3rd-EYE & ASD: This is where one needs to apply SOUND COMMON-SENSE & the laws of physics. For instance, can any line-of-sight emission like laser or microwave fired from a lower altitude cause any damage at anything at much higher altitude? The answer is NO. Instead, the emitted waves will just bounce off the edges of the mountain-top. The situation would have been different had both opposing forces have been perched at the same altitude facing one another, but that was never the case. Hence, kindly rest assured that the videoclip in question is nothing else but pure hogwash & a technological absurdity of the kind being taught in China. Instead, watch this videoclip in which Jack Maa himself admits at 2:24 that there is no such thing as a financial system in China:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl6yylTyB5U&t=12s
To RAD: And this poor bloke gets punished for coming up with a people-friendly innovation:
IIT Graduate Got Arrested For Developing A Faster Rail Ticket Booking App Than IRCTC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paJd0MtzkqY
While all those 'desi patrakaars' who were hounding ISRO & Devas Multimedia back in 2011 continue to roam scot-free!!!
Sir, What's this
Sources said both the Army and the BSF were taken by surprise by the calibre and range of artillery used in Kupwara, Baramulla and Bandipora districts.
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/pak-used-heavy-artillery-during-fridays-shelling-in-jk-bsf-officer/article33101711.ece/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Hi Prasunji,
Which Indian Aircarfts deploy python and derby missile? Can you please provide photos and videos for the same?
Thanks & Regards
Hardik Thanki
Mr.Prasun
1)Did,nt China Require good economic relations with India to offset its trade war loses with US so why this aggression?
2)Any data on BFSR-MR with raisable mast and LORROS in service with IA?
3)Is the BFSR-MR and EL/M 2140NG same?
Thank YOU
Indra
Prasun,
1- has china inserted a clause in RCEP framework that Quad kind of excerisce in S china sea need to get a go ahead from china? if true, the Japan & Australia deserve to be taken over by china
2-More P8I's for IN, I had read sometime ago that the US was arming them with LRSAM
https://thediplomat.com/2020/02/us-navy-to-arm-p-8a-poseidon-with-long-range-anti-ship-missile/ .. will the IN ones get them too?
3- what is the news abt OFB supplying "desi/ indigenous" anti material rifles vidwanshak to the army.. weren't they already supplied ?? and aren't they a copy of the denel rifle? why the noise?
To HARSH: LoLz! These ‘desi patrakaars’ can’t tell the difference between small, medium & heavy artillery & hence for them 120mm mortars constitutes heavy artillery.
To HARDIK THANKI: Only the BAE Systems Sea harrier FRS Mk.51s upgraded to LUSH standard did. The Tejas Mk.1 uses only ther Derby BVRAAM.
To INDRA: 1) haven’t you seen the latest bilateral trade figures? Two-way tr4ade between India & China has gone up from March this year. 2) You find find them all in previous DEFEXPO threads starting with 2012. 3) No, the radar is the STENTOR.
To JUST_CURIOUS: 1) No such clause exists. Here’s a good explanation of what RCEP is all about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UweLxcrgO2E
2) Yes, the LRASM has been offered for export to India for the P-8I LRMR/ASW platforms. 3) Just a follow-on order.
But this is the most interesting of all:
Revelations of Malaysian Fugitive Jho Low: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4lj6lC4lrk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZs8gRg0AEE
Looks like he is a high-value asset of China who was recruited for helping secure Malaysia’s support for China’s BRI plans in Malaysia, which initially was not too enthusiastic about BRI & had even been the first ASEAN member-state to invite the USAF’s F/A-22 Raptors for conducting joint air exercises with Malaysia’s Su-30MKMs. But interestingly, this guy made a 3-day stopover in Ahmedabad back in 2018 while on his way to the Middle East while using a Passport issued by Cyprus. Why Ahmedabad? Is he connected to any India-based Gujarati business tycoon?
Cant microwaves pass through rocks?
Arent they used in mineral exploration to find deposits under the ground?
Anyway, these laser and mw weapons are deadly.. Enemy wont even know from where they are being hit
Bhaskar
Prasunda, Indian Army has awarded Rs 2300 Crore to OshoCorp Global Pvt Ltd for 125mm APFSDS tank ammunition. First they got it for developing APUs for T-72 and T-90 tanks. Now this. With a paid up capital of only Rs 1 Lakhs.
https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1328573455021830146?s=20
https://twitter.com/GENERAL_DILAWAR/status/1328580795842387968?s=20
On what basis is the Indian government selecting such companies?
To BHASKAR: LoLz! You should have done some homework before asking such stupid questions. Therefore, do read this:
https://phys.org/news/2017-08-microwaves-energy.html
And if MILSPEC microwave frequencies could pass through rocks, then why the hell does one employ concepts like microwave line-of-sight comms networks or DEWs?
To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: It is just a R & D contract, not a firm procurement contract. Here is the website:
http://vsalute.com/125mm-APFSDS-Tank-Ammunition.php
Mr. Prasun
1)Was Depsang plains under UAV Surveillance 24/7 and does it continue to be so?
2)The current situation in Depsang is that whenever our Forces go for patrolling the chinese come in Vehicles and stop them does'nt it mean that they transgress the LAC everytime we try to do patrolling and after they come we go back and they also get back?
3)Our patrols if they are in vehicles we should we able to patrol should'nt we?
4)We had 2 Sqns of Mig-27Ms in Hasimara why did we base these aircraft which were useful for Anti-Armour role and now that they are retired which platforms will fullfil this role?
Thank You
Sanjay
Hi Parsunji,
Will QRSAM have a naval version for point defense to replace the Barak-1 system.
Thanks & Regards
Hardik Thanki
mr. Prasun
1)What was the role of Mig-27 in IAF?
2)Why did IAF base 2 sqns of Mig-27 in Hasimara and now that they are retired what is their replacement in hasimara AFS?
3)Has the contract for VSHORADS been signed that will replace Igla-1(5Km) with Igla-S(6 Km)?
4)Why was'nt the RBS-70 selected when it has the max range(8Km)?
5)What is active cancellation about which you have mentioned that the US is 50 years ahead of anybody else?
Thank you
Vishal
Sir,
There are news on Twitter regarding DARE ASPJ pod going to limited production.
You mention in 2013.
https://news.usni.org/2020/11/17/secnav-braithwaite-calls-for-new-u-s-1st-fleet-near-indian-pacific-oceans
your thoughts please on this piece of news above...
Prasun,
1-will the dare aspj be equipped on mk1a as well?
2- Recent moves(official letter) & stmts by a couple of EU parliamentarians - mostly from france against pakis.. what do you make of it?
3 RCEP signed & there is no clear indication of major business shifting shop ti India. did India miss a trick or is it a good move?
4 EU parliamentarians sending letters & urging EU to block monetary support to pakis..
5 anything gained in the BRICS meet or did it just go thru the motions?
6 Hafiz saeed convicted.. again by a pakistani lower court.. the plan is clear .. just do enuff to meet the FATF req & its BAU...does the FATF recognize this or is it another UNSC type org .. toothless, directionless & just plain hopeless
Prasun,
is this true---https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/china-sets-up-village-within-bhutan-9-km-from-doklam-face-off-site-2327563?pfrom=home-topscroll. what happens nxt another doklam standoff?
Dear Prasun,
I have a question regarding police brutality during this pandemic. I have seen how police harassed a couple who were coming by a scooty and the man was beaten mercilessly by the constable. It's nothing but "gundagardi". What's the solution for the common man to deal with such brutality? The couple had complied with the rules although; still no respite.
Prasun,
1-why the overtures.. apart from sheikh hasina .. the country is no diff from pakistan .. filled with fundamentalists
http://idrw.org/india-offers-lca-tejas-lch-alh-akash-missiles-radars-and-naval-boats-to-bangladesh/
2-Anothre potential attack foiled...http://idrw.org/fighting-to-revive-kashmir-jihad-jaish-e-muhammad-finding-help-from-old-friends-in-afghanistan/.. isnt it time for INdia to get involved militarily in Afghanistan in some capacity .. best option is to openly arm he govt
Prasun ,
You seem to have gone incommunicado .. guess busy gathering material for an upcomming blog..
1- Chinese support to militancy / terrorism in NE & surrounding region ..
http://idrw.org/more-chinese-arms-reach-northeast-india/.. has this been taken up with them and across international forums?
2-after nepal, chinese village within bhutunese borders.. both seem to have chosen to live with it...
Hi Prasun
Any truth to the reports of India being interested in UAE's Mirage 2000s??
What do u think about it? Doesnt it make sense for INdia to go for them and boost numbers of High-end platforms rapidly? Should IAF go for it and if so, how quickly can it be done.
Also I had read some reports that HAL has received 12 GE-F414 engines for MWF fighter production? Is that true? ANd does that imply that some meaningful progress is being made on that front?
Thanks
Prasun,
1 khadim rizvi's sudden death.. due to fever as per ome articles...ISI way of weeding out obstacles & sending a msg to the opposition? what happens to the PDM protests
2 China threatens 5 eyes.. desperate measures?also will jaoan & Australia's participation in RCEP i any way dilute the QUAD agenda?
Prasunada,
After using Chinese , Korean and Japanese metallurgical and engineering products ( Steel and other metal ) I have concluded that ,
a) Japan is best in metallurgically.
b) India and Korea is in almost same league but way behind Japan.
c) Chinese products are substandard.
Example a Japanese sea water valve will give reliable service for at least 10 years. Indian ) Good make) and Korean around 5 years. But Chinese valve can last anything from Zero to two years at max.. They simply have no quality control.
Indian planners should take it into account. It's difficult to believe that China can make a decent barrel for a 155 mm Howitzer !! It's may sound astonishing but may not be very far from truth.
Best regards,
Dear Prasun da,
Greetings
You have been so right in forecasting the forces' preferences or acquisition. Can you kindly enlighten us with below.
1. F 18 SH purchase by IN.for IAC 1 .
2. Additonal Mig 29K s by IN
3. Used/ Surplus Mirage 2000 purchase by IAF
4. Assuming the current leaae is eextended How many more SSN s will be leased by the IN?
Prasun Da,
What is this overhauled T90 means.Any new system has added?
https://twitter.com/alpha_defense/status/1326508247059099648
Hi Prasun Da,
One of the soldier posted in LOC told me about a UAV coming from POK side, flashing light like a camera. And then getting back to its side after ofcourse clicking pictures.
Challenge :1. Its so far (distance) that sound , visibiltywhile incoming i is negligble.
2. Soldiers are outeanged with even mordern sniping or marksmen guns to shoot it.
This is making many nervous.
My point of asking is it not the same UFO style RECCE done reported from LAC front. If yes, then for how long we will behave as 'ostrich ' ?
Thanks @ Regareds 😁,
S T.
Just got back to the OPS ROOM after almost a week-long recce-cum-assessment of the PLA build-up along the LAC, especially areas facing Himachal Pradesh & Uttarakhand. The infrastructure enhancements are massive & in particular the siting of new SAM sites in Zanda & Gartok (which the IN's P-8Is were earlier trying to ferret out through SIGINT, but were not able to). What has been done is to deploy these new HQ-22 SAM emplacements to supplement the HQ-9 LR-SAM emplacements already existing in Ngari-Gunsa & Shigatse airports & their deployment patterns clearly indicate that the PLAAF is resorting to an airspace-denial stratagem under which such SAM sites will be used against those IAF Rafales that could make use of the Lahaul-Spiti valleys for terrain-masking while flying out from Ambala or Bareilly while flying towards Ngari-Gunsa & Shigatse inside TAR.
Now, the PLA's Phase-1 of its deployment stratagem has been completed & now all eyes & ears are now on the Phase-2 stratagem, which is likely to be implemented from next March. It is now a given that with the permanent infrastructure enhancements already made by the PLA, there will be no stepping back & all storage warehouses reqd for accommodating the military hardware reqd for two fully-equipped Divisions are already in place. Hence, leave alone de-escalation, even any disengagement will be only symbolic in nature & the PLA will continue to be deployed in strength along the LAC along Ladakh, Himachal Pradesh & Uttarakhand on a permanent basis.
And the frequency of those mysterious ORBS emerging out of Kongka La has markedly increased since last August & continues unabated. They are visible to the naked eye at nights for only 6 hours & they always maintain constant speeds & altitudes, with no changes at all. And they disappear once sunrise gets underway.
Will begin answering the outstanding queries later today.
Please tell something more about those mysterious ORBS over Kongka La, Sir. who are they? Chinis or US?
After this Phase-1 of deployment stratagem completion, what is the mood in Delhi? All indication points to deep sleep?
@Prasun
1) Are you expecting a limited scale skirmish or conflict with the PLA next year?
2) Twitteratis are saying that Pakistan is planning a big terrorist attack on 26/11. If hypothetically it happens, should we expect Surgical Strike 3.0?
Thanks Prasun Da, so to knock those SAM sites of PLA, ARM like RUDRAM is required ? Has IAF considered those option ?
Do you think it is possible for our Nation, Army and PM Modi to ever be able to recovery from what Chine, PLA and Xi has done to us? How would you arrange the deck to pay them back?
Ram
SOrry a second question: What light can you shed on the Muhid units of PA in POK? Are they recruited locally, if so is their loyality questionable? I read that the name means warrior and that these guys are the ones doing the beheadings, are sort of considered elite shock troops.
Ram
Mr. Prasun
I wanted to ask you about the Mysterious Lights near LAC do they also appear in Eastern sector?
What in your assessment was the Object a 14 man team saw in Himachal Pradesh in 2004?
I think Incidents Like these are no longer being reported after 2012-13 why is this the case i thought the objects like you have mentioned dont occur but it seems you have Visually now seen objects are these regular Occurences?
ajay
Can you provide any Images?
Hi Sir,
1)Is the PLA preparing for a full scale offensive against India for occupying its claimed terroritories?
2)Do the Indian Armed Forces have the capability to pindown PLA Offensive & defend our territorial integrity(Stalemate PLA at LaC)?
Thank You!
MOHAN.
Hi Prasunda,
1) What is China's End Game? To keep the Indian troops permanently tied to the Eastern border which gives Pakistan ample time to consolidate on its G&B 'annexation'?
2) What stops anyone from shooting down the ORBS?
3) When will India take back G&B from Pakistan? Or is it just a pipedream now?
4) Is the IA/IAF aware of the recent PLA military and support infra accretions?
Regards,
Ashish
This Nagrota encounter seems to have been setup to fail. Too clumsy planning & execution. Were there real terrorists who escaped & are alive to carry out the mission ? Or were they too eliminated
Regards
Venky
Hi Prasun,
What does the permanent presence of Chinese divisions so close our borders mean for India? What should India’s response be? And are we working towards the response in a credible manner?
Dear Prasun,
1. Is India ready for a two front war while getting back PoK? I'm afraid due to our short sited political leadership. Considering the current scenario about PLA deployment of SAM to thwart the terrain masking, how far IAF is ready to tackle it?
2. Do you think that in case of any skirmishes, IA will have upper hand against PLA?
To KANE1966: Multiplicity of new MRCA designs will only increase the operating budget & hence if new-generation naval carrier-based MRCAs are reqd, then sound common-sense dictates that the Rafale-Ms be procured. But these are meant for the IAC-2, which is not likely to materialise over the next 15 years. As for leasing SSNs, the present-day practice of leasing only 1 SSGN of the Project 971-class will continue.
To SUSAN: As that report says, only refurbishment took place & no mid-life upgrades were carried out.
To ST: No, the two are totally different pieces of hardware. The ones originating from Kongka La stay airborne for an average of 6 hours non-stop.
To DASHU: It all depends on what the present-day political dispensation believes to be the origin of China’s belligerency. Historically & logically, it all began back in 2004 as far as INTENT goes, & matters began accelerating after August 2008 in terms of acquisition of CAPABILITIES for realising the intent go. That’s why by 2009 China officially began labelling the whole of Ladakh as disputed territory, meaning China was free to be aggressive there since it was not India’s territory. Failure to see this in this light was a historic blunder of biblical proportions, but despite this, the present-day political dispensation is laying the blame for India’s recent reverses on previous political dispensations, i.e. there’s no national consensus on what constitutes the China Threat & what its origins are. That is typically characteristic of the mindsets of those who are clueless about both grand strategizing & nation-building. For such folks, only symbolism matters, i.e. everyone wants to takeoff from Asoka becoming Asoka the Great, while totally ignoring what evolutionary steps Asoka had to take to reach his ultimate desired end-state, i.e. he first had to become Asoka the Butcherer.
As for the ORBS, they appear to be neither of US or china origin. Instead, they are intelligent in terms of their movements & appear to be originating from inter-dimensional portals that happen to pass through that area. These may perhaps throw some more light on this issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLJjeYDl-PU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU0utG9RdC0
These ORBS are also reportedly responsible for short-lived bursts of RF emissions over very short distances that have been & are being picked up by the IA’s direction-finding hardware but within areas where no human habitation exists & where it is geographically impossible for any humans to go or stay, especially in areas close to Demchok. The matter is still under investigation & I’m involved in it through the application of controlled remote-viewing techniques.
To ANIRUDH: 1) Not at all. 2) Rest assured that it won’t happen.
To SUMANTA NAG: Both are reqd, i.e. soft-kill for SEAD missions & hard-kill for DEAD missions. Also, EMP-generating SAAW & ALCMs like SCALP-E will be reqd.
To RAM: Everything’s possible, PROVIDED a change of mindsets takes place. And that’s because the present-day political dispensation is laying the blame for India’s recent reverses on previous political dispensations, i.e. there’s no national consensus on what constitutes the China Threat & what its origins are. That is typically characteristic of the mindsets of those who are clueless about both grand strategizing & nation-building. For such folks, only symbolism matters, i.e. everyone wants to takeoff from Asoka becoming Asoka the Great, while totally ignoring what evolutionary steps Asoka had to take to reach his ultimate desired endstate, i.e. he first had to become Asoka the Butcherer.
All data on the AJK Brigades & the Mujahid Force was uploaded in a previous thread a few months ago.
To AJAY: The ORBS, appear to be neither of US or china origin. Instead, they are intelligent in terms of their movements & appear to be originating from inter-dimensional portals that happen to pass through that area. These may perhaps throw some more light on this issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLJjeYDl-PU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU0utG9RdC0
These ORBS are also reportedly responsible for shortlived bursts of RF emissions over very short distances that have been & are being picked up by the IA’s direction-finding hardware but within areas where no human habitation exists & where it is geographically impossible for any humans to go or stay, especially in areas close to Demchok. The matter is still under investigation & I’m involved in it through the application of controlled remote-viewing techniques.
To MOHAN: 1) Preparing? Yes. But when is it likely? Not before 2025 at best. 2) That depends on how fast the IA can raise its IBGs reqd for waging offensive high-altitude plateau warfare. But the constant delays in procuring critical hardware like fully weaponised LUH & LCH from HAL, coupled with the never-ending delays in procuring 24/7 ISTR platforms like turbofan-powered HALE-UAVs does not inspire much confidence.
To ASHISH: 1) That’s the short-term objective. The long-term objective of China is to capture Ladakh, which was outlined by Chairman Mao back in the early 1950s itself. I therefore wonder which have successive Govts of India not paid any heed to such declaratory objectives that were spelt out by the adversary decades ago. 2) How can they be shot when thay can’t even be tracked by any existing fire-control system? 3) The IA is not in any shape now to launch any expeditionary campaign of that type. 4) Of course. If I’m aware, then I’m sure they too are equally well-aware.
hi prasun
even if they are deployed on the himachal utarakand border will it be not a difficult task if they enter border as hte terrain is extrmemly rugged and they will be prone to ambushes and supply and roads being blocked among the high mountains ?
how much exposure time will be ther once the indian fighters cross the terrainmasking feature and go in for the attack? they can be also ambushed but sam salvoes in dozens which is very hard to defeat?
how hard is it for the chinese to take ladakh if they attempt, so what are our option ?
when you went on recce did you have te blessing of the IA to go to the forward positionn to see for yourself?
you talked of the OPS room can you describe that in detail?
To ASD: One cannot blame the Police for following legislations & laws enacted in 1864. That’s why I had explained several times before that India’s legal statutes for law enforcement are meant for ruling the masses, & not for governing the masses. 1) There won’t be a two-front war simply because even China is not yet ready to wage war against India. 2) As of now, definitely yes.
To SANJEEV: The PLAGF concentrations as of now are designed to only keep the IA forward-deployed throughout the LAC in Ladakh, HP & Uttarakhand under Phase-1 & under Phase-2 this same tactic will be repeated in the east along Sikkim & Arunachal Pradesh & both Phases will run concurrently until 2024 at the very least.
To VENKY: We are missing the woods for the trees, since the riverine terrain along the WB & northern Punjab ensures adequate chances of success of such infiltrations, largely due to Indian ineptitude, as explained below:
The BSF has been exploring various technologies in collaboration with the DRDO, the Indian Institutes of Technology, Israel and the US to deal with the problem. But there has not been any success in finding any robust anti-tunnel technology yet. Any requirement for modern technology at the border is held up in files in the ministries with multiple queries raised by bureaucrats. The CIBMS [Comprehensive Integrated Border Management System) announced by the Govt of India along the India-Pakistan IB has been in trial stage for years in just a 5km stretch. If the trial will take four-five years, imagine how much time actual installation of such a project across 3,000km will take. “Bureaucracy is the only reason we fail to have the technology.”
To RAD: The Rafales will take more than 1 hour to reach Shigatse if they depart from Ambala & try to enter TAR through Lahaul-Spiti. If they take off from Bareilly & try to cross into TAR near the India-Nepal-China trijunction, then the flight-time will be slightly less than 1 hour—all this while adopting terrain-masking & terrain avoidance flight-profiles. When conducting my sorties, I have never sought anyone’s blessings neither was any blessing given unilaterally by anyone.
To DASHU: Here’s an example of what inter-dimensional travel portals are all about & why they are not visible to the naked eye:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0G3yHJj4K4&t=132s
And here’s a video-recording of mysterious lights (ORBs) over Lake Maansarovar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCQWULaRvYI
These ORBs are mostly seen near lakes at high altitudes & there were some sightings even during OP Vijay in 1999 near Tiger Hill, close to which is the ‘Pariyon ka Talaab’. Similar sightings of a slightly different kind were recorded in Sweden in the 1940s & 1950s, in which rockets were seen diving into lakes but they were never recovered from any of the lakes:
Sweden’s Ghost Rockets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtAjrLEuLM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcIjThb_fc0
Sir,
Aatm nirbhar bharat:-
https://theprint.in/defence/hal-helicopter-not-for-us-indian-navy-doesnt-want-psu-to-be-part-of-3-bn-chopper-deal/482990/
@Prasun Da
1. What do you think these ORBS are? Alien crafts or super hi-tech US surveillance drones or are they Chinese in origin?
2. Looks like in the case of Ladakh, Chinese will out-execute us to create a coming-from-behind force asymmetry before the eventual annexation of Ladakh. What a shame!
Regards,
Ashish
Sir, ur words like "does not inspire much confidence" convey more than enough information and I was hoping to buy one real estate in Skardu someday in the future HUHH. Maybe that is the reason GoI separated Ladakh from J&K. For clarity Here is my question - Chini will take the current Ladakh or "from their point of view" Ladakh includes part of j&k UT as well? They are not publishing their claimed area which is causing confusion.
https://idrw.org/paf-fears-rafale-ambush-cautions-forward-bases/
IAF Rules of Engagement have been changed
The IJT started its spin trials . Have the engine issues especially Mean time between overhaul sorted out ?
Why was the engine changed from French to Russian , knowing this ?
Regards
Venky
Sir,
Fake news?
Indian Navy inducts two American Predator drones on lease, can be deployed on China border
https://twitter.com/ani_digital/status/1331560058287579137
* there's talk in the US of a a new '1st fleet' based in the IOR. your thoughts please.
* why were the P-8Is unable to locate the new SAM sites in Zanda & Gartok? would space based ELINT be more succesful here?
* https://asia.nikkei.com/Editor-s-Picks/Interview/Mauritius-makes-play-for-future-with-US-base-on-Diego-Garcia
what should be our position with respect to the above? should we try to establish a small presence there alongside the US?
* at 12:28 here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55TzHgKaO1M - it is mentioned that after AON for the helo by a service, it will take 2 years for proposal submission, commercial & technical eval, price negotiation - can this process not be done faster? & wouldn't further technical eval. be redundant since it seems to have been done already?
good to have u back btw :-D
To ANWAY & VENKY: It is now high time someone asked the MoD & its wholly-owned subsidiary HAL why was so much funding wasted on the HJT-36 IJT when the IAF had already stated several times before that after procuring the PC-7 Mk.2 BTTs & Hawk Mk.132 AJTs there was simply no need for an IJT. Instead, such funds could easily have been spent on developing a 7.5-tonne variant of the ALH that featured folding main rotor-blades & folding tail-rotor section. If this had happened, then between 2008 & 2016 the HAL-developed 7.5-tonne NLUH would have been available for procurement by the IN.
To ANWAY: It was the IA’s VCOAS that had visited the US last month for seeking leased hardware, including the critical winter habitation prefabricated structures. At the same time, lease of eight such UAS platforms was sought for ensuring 24/7 ISR of the LAC alongside Ladakh, Sikkim & Arunachal Pradesh. Hence, instead of the IN, it is the IA that has leased such UAS platforms, since the non-existence of such capabilities had resulted in the PLAGF advancing from their breakout areas to their final destinations in the critical first 2 weeks of May by taking advantage of non-existent persistent ISR capabilities of the IA, IAF & ITBP. Anyone specialising in persistent ISR will know that even the availability of four or six overhead recce satellites cannot ensure persistent ISR of the kind provided by a fleet turboprop-powered or turbofan-powered MALE-UAVs. And that’s precisely why even China chose not to use its limited-endurance CH-4 UAS platforms, & instead made use of up to 6 turbofan-powered EA-03 Soar Dragon HAL-UAS (flying from Shigatse) to obtain persistent ISR coverage of the LAC alongside Ladakh between March & May 2020. And this practice continues till this day. That’s why the IAF has since 2016 been clamouring for inducting the General Atomics-built, turbofan-powered Avenger UAS equipped with SAR sensors, but such requests were turned down after the DRDO managed to con the country’s decision-makers & obtained funds for developing an ISR platform by making use of a regional jetliner airframe!!!
To DASHU: LoLz! Where is the need to publish any of China’s territorial claims when in 1949 itself Chairman Mao had publicly stated that apart from Tibet, the five conjoined territories of Arunachal Pradesh (southern Tibet), Bhutan, Sikkim, Nepal & Ladakh were also part of Tibet & hence needed to be incorporated into TAR? How can one get any more explicit than this? And whosoever controls Ladakh also controls the water-flow into J & K UT and India's Punjab state.
Doesn’t Indian armed forces doesn’t have Israeli UAV heron and drones for ISR duties
Mukul
The message is clear that China wants the whole world. This has to be mercilessly stopped now and here.
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