India’s Ministry of Defence (MoD) yesterday inked a Rs.1,000 crore procurement contract with its wholly-owned defence public-sector undertaking Bharat Electronics Ltd (BEL) for supplying the Indian Navy with 473 SDR-TACs, 2,000+ SDR-HHs and SDR-MPs, and close to 70 SDR-NCs. All deliveries will be completed by early 2023.
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Is there any commonality between the sw defined radios of the three forces functionally .
Regards
Venky
US Or China: Will Southeast Asia Have To Pick A Side? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ8A5jiGICM
How stupid answers are given in Parliament to detailed questions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq_p9Rl9yZ8
PLAGF Combined-Arms Training at Sub-Zero Temperatures:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbpAot38hSc
Reforming the Military Procurement Processes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-RzIa_BPKs
What Exactly Ails the MoD: https://thewire.in/government/who-thinks-for-the-ministry-of-defence
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-has-transgressed-into-lac-more-times-than-china-says-v-k-singh/article33774108.ece
How can anyone transgress into any LAC? It can be a transgression or intrusion only if one steps beyond the LAC. It such faulty answers by ill-informed officials that repeatedly offers China victories on silver platters by offering China the excuses reqd for creeping further westwards & asserting ever-new claim-lines.
These answers like that of kadhi ninda guy and the general sahib clearly show GoI is clueless and totally demoralized by chini pressure. Thinking something uttering something to show/mask something else.
BTW are you the one who provided those specific questions to that MP, otherwise how come they can ask these kinds of specific questions on Paki? Interestingly no question on how to tame the dragon.
Even more depressing no one asked what GoI will do when GB and AJK officially annexed by Paki.
Prasunda,
Hope you are in good spirits and keeping well.
Some of the observations and your response obviously is needed to see the big picture:
1. Our western neighbor, Pakistan, is unusually quiet these days. IAKN is not tweeting regularly. Is this because they are in final process of making GB and POK as 5th and 6th provinces of Pakistan and that's why they are keeping mum.
2. Biden administration is still keeping cards close to their chest. Apart from usual statements on China, not much is given about the China policy, India policy except the QUAD meeting. Are we again going to see the Bush administration scenario where Pentagon will be interested in increasing ties but State Dept will focus more on Human Rights. ( Donald Rumsfeld vs Colin Powell)
3. Speaking of Human Rights, everyone is keeping mum over BBC Uighur's report whereas Indian farmer's protest is trending. George Soros's dollars at work, I believe. What do you think of Soros and is he even worth discussing.
4. Daily revelations about the mismanagement of Indian Foreign Service continues and present a complex picture of foreign policy disaster which we are in. Even if our military retains elements of superiority over China, it is always lost at the civilian leadership. I simply have no idea what will happen in a year or two. Perhaps you can predict the logical chain of events.
5. How do you rate the budget 2021-22. Finally this government bite the bullet by bringing some serious reforms.
6. It is my observation that central govt. in India faces most challenges in their 2nd term which results in their loss. Manmohan govt. 2nd term proved to be a disaster with various scams and finally Modi govt is faced with same fate as of now it appears. This despite both govts. doing well in their 1st terms and also got bigger mandate in their 2nd term but did lost. Modi govt. fate appears to be in the same direction. What is your opinion on this.
Hope you continue in best of your health.
dear saar,
1. as for 0 degree, i meant a flat trajectory from APFSDS to the armor of arjun. cud u tell us how much of rha cud arjun withstand
2. as u hve reminded me of vk singh, can u tell me about the "Technical Support Division" saga
as i am very curious pls?
3. as for the bhramos awacs varient, will it be like a enlarged version of meteor?
4. how many modes does new MIRS X band radar hve?
thank you
Yogesh
Dear Prasun
Answering one of Anonymous question on arjun armour ...
No projectile can travel long distances in a straight line, it has to be a parabolic path, physics and gravity define that
So a horizontal attack isn't possible before lasers come into play
Sir
How many MAL are present in an Army Brahmos regiment and Missiles are they 72 per regiment?
Thanks
I think India's internal matters are trending and gaining international coverage because of three reasons: 1) Inept public relations skills of the GOI 2) Pakistan and supporters like Turkey/China funding PR companies just like the mafia used to 3) India is an aspirant world power therefore it is a kind of an international payback because clearly the Western powers do not want India to become a world power. The whole reason India gets backing is because they support the lesser evil between China and India plus the lucrative Indian market.
If India had good public relations skills, they would have gone ahead and gradually introduced reforms, gained support THEN introduce those reforms. With no structure behind it- opposition parties and people see such imposed reforms as dictatorial and unnecessary.
To VENKY: LoLz! Are you asking this because you have read this piece of nonsense?:
https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/aero-india-2021-compatibility-hit-as-services-buy-different-kinds-of-radio-121020402129_1.html
It is like claiming that SDRs made by US-based Harris, France-based THALES & Spain-based INDRA won’t be able to communicate with one another within a networked comms grid.
PLAAF’s HQ-9B LR-SAM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pas80go-zdQ
To DASHU: It has already happened along expected lines:
India’s Unwitting Confession, Says China: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0G4KX8TIYo
No, the questions never originated from me, but surely the RM could have briefly explained the process of declaring a squadron as IOC-capable (after six months of taking delivery of the Rafales) & FOC-capable (after 3 years of squadron service).
To ANIONE: 1) They just celebrated February 5 as the day where they express solidarity & unity with PoK. 2) Not quite, since the US Navy’s 2 aircraft carriers are still within reach of the South China Sea & one of them is actually operating inside the SCS. 3) They will all die down since such trending has a shelf-life of only a few weeks. 5) Far more serious reforms are awaited, such as administrative refortms, banking-sector reforms & serious divestments in DPSUs. 6) Whenever there’s over-centralisation at the federal-level & almost all decision-making gets concentrated within the PMO, that’s when regional instability gets a boost.
To YOGESH: 1) That is a total physical impossibility as it violates all laws of physics & mathematics. 2) No saga at all. It was all about the IA’s MI Directorate using IMSI Catchers imported from Israel for eavesdropping on cellular comms within J & K. 3) Not at all. It will be a BrahMos-NG variant. 4) Between 18 & 21.
To PRAKSH: They are all detailed in the thread dealing with India’s cruise missiles. And now this chap is claiming that the IRST sensor for the MWF will be an imported solution:
Project Director Dr Madhusudhana Rao: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4QFS__O3Ck
Newly delivered Type 15 (ZTQ-105) MBTs of PLAGF's South Xinjiang Military Command Exercising near Rutog, Aksai Chin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7it4m0Adfw
Mr.Prasun it seems that the Chinese are building their capability in Western Tibet (Ngari prefecture) a lot
New Heliports
Expansion of Ngari-gunsa Airbase
Deployment of ZTQ-105 LTs
New infrastructure for Border Defence Regiments as was mentioned by you in a thread a few months ago.
But still these units come under Xinjiang Military District not Tibet Military District as people will wrongly assume.
Do these new ZTQ-105 LTs come under PLA-BDR or the 2 divisions deployed in Aksai Chin?
Thank you
Ranveer
Prasunda
PRC, Sir, has already given the expected reaction. The retd. COAS & current minister put his foot right into it. It is quite evident now that the Indian Government is under a lot of pressure with regards to LAC & PRC strategy. Doesn't know exactly how to get out of this SNAFU unless of course the idea is to abandon not just Kailas Mansarovar rights, being successor state of J&K in addition to cultural rights but even the MacMohan line & settle for LAC as border which PRC won't recognise anyway. In short, it appears as predicted India is on backfoot as the weaker power. Negotiation seems a bad idea, better to prepare for a war within five years
Prasunda
Meanwhile, as expected disengagement has begun..Not a good sign at all though all reports are from PRC side & not India again as expected.
Sir, after so many pass and fails & ups and downs, what ultimately happened to the Nirbhay cruise missile? Has it been finally inducted or not?? Kindly reply.
who is this dutch guy SAAR here who Sri Yogesh has referred to above? I have never seen anyone called SAAR comment in this blog ever! Or is it just a joke and question aimed at anyone?
To RANVEER: Not just in Ngari Prefecture, bu throughout southern Xinjiang, Qinghai plateau & near Bhutan & above Arunachal Pradesh. The principal logistics bases are at Golmud & Korla, from where the supplies flow to the heliports, both old & new. The two new heliports closer to the LAC now being buolt are solely for CASEVAC. The Tibet Military District (TMD) was previously given air-defnec cover by only 1 PLAAF Air-Defence Brigade, but this is now being expanded to 2, while the PLAGF’s air-defence regiments have also been expanded from 1 to 3. Any amount of expansion of existing airports throughout TAR will not boost the PLAAF’s airstrike capabilities as they are all at very high altitudes. Instead, they too will serve as bases for housing helicopters for trooplift & CASEVAC. Most interestingly, the TMD’s fighting force of 3 Brigades is now being expanded to six & new logistics bases have been built to cater to the needs of these 3 new Brigades. The PLA-BDR are only for border defence & hence do not have any armoured vehicles like MBTs & ICVs. They possess only APCs & LAMVs. The ZTQ-105s are presently operational oly with the TMD’s three Brigades, while the ZTQ-105s of the South Xinjiang Military Command are new arrivals & will thus not become fully operational before 2023.
To KAUSTAV: I can’t fathom why the PMO that is so obsessed with centralisation & micro-management, would allow a junior minister to open his mouth & expend soundbytes about anything to do with the LAC. And by doing so, he has obviously further diluted India’s case & has also driven more nails into the coffins containing the McMahon Line to the east & the Johnson-Ardagh Line to the west. Matters are thus getting from bad to worse.
To RAJESH MISHRA: How can Nirbhay be inducted into service when Russia gave only ten 36M turbofans for conducting test-firings? And the MANIK STFE developed by GTRE for the Nirbhay has yet to be test-flown. Hence, unless the MANIK is extensively tested & certified for use, it cannot be series-produced in large numbers & consequently even the Nirbhay cannot enter the series-production stage.
Prasunda, yup reason why I called it the MacMohan Line!
Are we losing it? The RM is to deliver a message in the RS on Ladakh.. The watershed principle, Kailas - Karakoram range, McMahon / Johnson-Ardagh PRC not recognising any claim by India, geographic, historic or cultural. Accepted that Might is Right. In which case, India has to prepare for war or Exit Ladakh & Kashmir. India is morally right but Economic & Military might alone will ensure that these rights are upheld & protected
Prasunda
Continuing above....
Let us wait for the RM Shri Rajnath Singh to address the Rajya Sabha before accepting in toto what PRC states & jumping to conclusions as Felis already have. That India couldn't go upto those areas in Figer 8 has been a reality for some time now. However, the silence of IA yesterday & both the statements of Lt.Gen(R) VK Singh don't inspire hope. Withdrawal from heights might cause permanent loss & carry future military risk
Prasunda
So India at Finger 3 & PRC to Finger 8. Indian Patrols won't go ghere. Any more. So Land for Peace given Gen VK Singh's interview & clarification.
Pravin Sawhney has probably the best take about this. India likely to accept 1959 LAC. Gen VK Singh's comments suggests barter of land for peace. If the 1993 lines aren't held, it is India's fault Ofcourse, war is always an option but India is weaker.
So what about Depsang? (Also the heights occupied on Kailas Range?
https://youtu.be/bjc1lbhLSCg
Prasunda, your analysis on this developing case highly appreciated
Dear Prasunda
Good day
I read Kalashnikov May Have Bagged Strela 9М333 Guided Missile Deal With India.
Is this true, why did we opt for thsi against the french and swedish offerings.
Is this as good as the VERBA? overall is this a good choice?
Kind regards
Kiran
This rajnath is buffon
Prasun,
Stupidity reigns supreme-- patrols halted... http://idrw.org/pangong-lake-breakthrough-in-china-crisis-as-pla-to-pull-back-troops-till-finger-8-india-agrees-to-patrolling-halt/... guess the govt believes Mr Singh can do the job all by himself :)
https://youtu.be/5u4rvvc6bfQ
Prasun, da what are those chicom tanks type 69/type 80 or type 96?
This is now a public acceptance of defeat to CCP. Surrendered everything. But logically India hardly had any chance either so it's better to retreat for the time being.
Sir,
Fake news?
https://twitter.com/daeroplate_v2/status/1359761480405553153?s=19
What are you talking about?
VERBA?
VSHORADS?
STRELA-10 SHORADS?
Free Sindhudesh,, Time to send the tanks inside
https://leagueofindia.com/india-world/sindhi-nationalist-movement-gaining-steam-in-pakistan/
To KAUSTAV, JUST_CURIOUS & DASHU: here are the assessments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZPNd1TZswo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiEWKkMB9Yc
It is only a disengagement, i.e. neither party will be within each other’s direct visual line-of-sight. This is by no means a de-escalation or de-induction. But what has not been explained by either party is: 1) What will be the duration of the disengagement period? Temporary or permanent? 2) Will the disengagement also include the patrols conducted by each other’s patrol/interceptor craft? Or will such craft be able to navigate right up to Finger-3 (in China’s case) or up to Finger-8 (in India’s case)? But sound common-sense dictates that anything wishful like the LAC that is neither delineated or demarcated can always be breached by either party, especially since China has repeatedly come up with various versions of claim-lines since 1956.
But what has become much clearer is that Beijing has been clearly warned about the new Biden Administration’s firm resolve to continue challenging China’s writ over the South & East China Seas through: 1) the deployment of up to 3 carrier battle-groups (two in South China Sea) & one on standby in the Western Pacific, thereby continuing with the postures of the previous trump Administration. 2) US declaration that the protection of the Senkaku Islands comes under the ambit of the US-Japan military alliance. In fact, the US Navy had wargamed for this scenario way back in 2004 in an exercise called EX SUMMER PULSE, duringv which 4 US Navy carrier battle-groups were deployed in the Western Pacific for extensive sea-control exercises (which I had highlighted in a prevsious thread).
Meanwhile, here is an excellent primer on China’s new Coast Guard Law:
https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/CASI/documents/Translations/2021-02-11%20China_Coast_Guard_Law_FINAL_English_Changes%20from%20draft.pdf?ver=vrjG35ymdQsmid0NF66uTA%3d%3d
To KANE1966/KIRAN & RAJ GUPTA: Those SAM rounds are meant for use by the IA’s existing Strella-10M SHORADS. The Strella-10M (using IR-guided SAMs) & OSA-AK (using RF-guided SAMs) SHORADS combination was procured by India in the early 1980s. The Strella-10M can still be upgraded for staying in service for another 10 years & all that needs to be done is to install a new target-acquisition radar, i.e. the very same AESA-based radar that’s on the IA’s upgraded ZSU-23-4 Schilkas.
To SARATHI97: They are Type 88C MBTs, neither Type 69II nor Type 96.
To ANWAY: Of course it is FAKE NEWS.
China Standards 2035 Explained:
https://www.china-briefing.com/news/what-is-china-standards-2035-plan-how-will-it-impact-emerging-technologies-what-is-link-made-in-china-2025-goals/
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/27/china-standards-2035-explained.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIX_Hwf1mFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LP3SQztIKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQstHYwx-Vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPbJyJGe5AA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLYPgv3Uxwo
PA Test-Fires Babur LACM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7kSBvkBMYo
Prasunda
Thanks for the level headed logical analysis, Lt.Gen SA Hasnain has also a similar take & seems to concur
https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/india-china-border-standoff-ladakh-lac-7184783/
Mr.Prasun
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/china-surprises-india-with-pace-of-withdrawal-pulls-out-200-tanks-in-2-days-101613088444899-amp.html
Chinese are even surprising us in their withdrawals yikes 200+ tanks I think we were outnumbered in AFVs in theatre 2 Chinese divisions=350+ tanks
Only + IFVs,APCs,LAMVs etc.
Our strength one Armd Brigade with 90-135 tanks+50 tanks more=140-185 tanks +120 IFVs.
Even if we had reinforced this with 1 or 2 tank regiments that is total for less than 300.
A very sad state of affairs.
If shots would have been fired maybe our T-72CIAs would have been better than Chinese Type-88C but they would have been outnumbered.
Same for our T-90S against PLA Type-99s and 96.
Thank you
Your comments please
https://theprint.in/opinion/lac-disengagement-will-ultimately-lead-to-china-giving-up-claims-in-northeast/602710/
Sir,
INS Arihant& INS Arighat(S3)visible. 3rd on Still under development?
Prasunda
Exactly as the weaker military power, this is as good a deal as India could get for now. But, Sir can India negotiate for a settlement even on 1959 claim lines since everyone from Gen.Panag to Pappu Gandhi is fairly sure we hv lost some 1000sq kms. The speed of PRC deployment & past record of honouring deals & commitments of PRC make it evident that a war within this decade is more plausible than a border settlement given PRC Claims & compulsions on CPEC & POK.
not sure about the disengagement. out of sight seems to be out of mind for india. this gave much needed focus & was building up popular sentiment as hostile towards china as it should be. can't be a coincidence this comes with biden's approach becoming clearer. hope india doesn't look for reconciliation. calls were beginning to grow for changing tibet's status.
Prasun da
https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/after-lca-huge-push-for-arjun-tanks-1768667-2021-02-12?__twitter_impression=true
1)Why this talk that it will be the last order for Arjun Tanks when you have mentioned that the Army has 2 MK1 regiments in service ,Mk1A will be ordered now and in the future 6 MK2 regiments will be ordered.
2)Also the talk that because we will now focus on the Northern borders we will procure light tanks seems incorrect because requirements for Western borders is going nowhere so we can continue to forward deploy more Arjuns on the Western border especially in Rajasthan.
What you say?
3)How will the Arjun operate in Punjab and Southern Jammu do you think it can be deployed and effectively operate there?
4)Can the Arjun be deployed in Ladakh if we strengthen our exterior lines of communication?
Thank you
Sanjay
To KAUSTAV & BHOUTIK: here are additional assessments about the ongoing disengagements:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skNQAKCQR2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8PrXL5OiPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw08JPjnHGg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v_KT1bJ03k&t=128s
Ane here is China's perceptions about India according to the former's national security strategy paper:
https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/CASI/documents/Translations/2021-02-08%20Chinese%20Military%20Thoughts-%20In%20their%20own%20words%20Science%20of%20Military%20Strategy%202013.pdf?ver=TdMNn2O9Ktebbf6tMzgT6g%3d%3d
India is a regional power in South Asia and the Indian Ocean, and is also an emerging major country that is in the midst of arising, and so its international status is improving every day. Understanding and analyzing trends in its military strategy have an important significance for understanding and grasping the world and regional strategic setup, and even its security situation. From India’s independence in 1947 to the end of the Cold War, India’s military strategy largely underwent three stages of development. The first stage was a period of limited offensive strategy (from India’s independence to the beginning of the 1960s). At the start of Indian independence, its domestic economy was backward and its military power was weak; externally, it formed a confrontation with Pakistan, and it also faced an intense competition between the United States and the Soviet Union as they struggled to dominate the South Asian region. Under these circumstances, the [Jawaharlal] Nehru government adopted a policy of “non-alliance” with the outside, it dealt with both the US and the Soviet blocs, while internally, it adopted a policy of “first the economy and then national defence;” it struggled for time, it developed the economy, it deepened and accumulated national power, and it strove to achieve the strategic goals of preserving India, developing India, and strengthening India. Militarily, it promoted a strategy of “limited offense,” viewed Pakistan as its most direct threat, put its strategic focus on the west, and continually improved its deployment for operations against Pakistan. At the same time, India intensified its military penetration into areas that it had yet to occupy south of the McMahon Line, in order to achieve the goals of territorial expansion and long-term control over contested areas along the Sino-Indian border; by 1958 it had seized a large area of Chinese territory north of the traditional and customary lines south of the McMahon Line, and had established the so-called “Himalayan security system” in India’s north, aimed at China.
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The second stage was the period of a strategy of “expansion on two fronts” (the 1960s to the early 1970s). India’s defeat in the 1962 Sino-Indian border conflict had a major impact on India’s military strategy. India reevaluated its security environment, rethought its military policies, and summarized its experiences and lessons. First, it gave priority to military buildup; starting in 1964, it implemented its first five-year plan for national defence, spending 50 billion rupees, and expanding its armaments on a large scale. Second, given the situation that it was difficult for India’s national power to contend with China, it adopted an in-depth defence programme against the PRC for a given period of time. Third, it actively prepared for operations against Pakistan in the west and against the PRC in the north. In the late 1960s, India received a great deal of aid from the US, and it formed a de facto alliance with the Soviet Union; in addition to this, its domestic economic situation improved somewhat, there was some strengthening of its overall national power, its military expansionist thinking accordingly looked up, and it adopted a strategy of “expansion on two fronts” where it had China and Pakistan as simultaneous targets of major operations and prepared for simultaneous operations along both the western and northern battle lines. It adopted a programme of “attack to the west and defend to the north,” where the western front would be primarily for offense and the northern front would be primarily for defence, and it directly aimed the spearhead of its expansion toward the western border, in an effort to weaken Pakistan strategically. In November 1971, India launched a large-scale assault against Pakistan, in order to dismember Pakistan with one blow.
The third stage was the period of a strategy of “maintain the land and control the sea” (1970s to the late 1980s). After the third India-Pakistan War, the setup where India dominated South Asia basically took shape. US-Indian relations and Sino-Indian relations, which had been tense for a time, tended to ameliorate; the UK withdrew its troops from the Indian Ocean because of a lack of financial and military strength; the USSR gradually reduced its interference in the South Asian region after the mid-1980s; and this resulted in a major change in the South Asian strategic situation that benefited India and provided strategic opportunity and conditions for it to expand into the Indian Ocean region. Under these conditions, based on the fact that India’s strategic intentions on land had fundamentally been achieved, it gradually shifted the focus of its strategy from the South Asian subcontinent to the Indian Ocean, it proposed the military strategic idea of “maintain the land and control the sea,” and it comprehensively sought superiority at sea over the northern Indian Ocean.
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After the end of the Cold War, there was a major adjustment to India’s military strategy, where it shifted from a strategy of “regional offense” to a strategy of “regional deterrence.” India believed that the traditional concept of war in the Cold War period, where you annihilated the enemy country’s military strengths, plundered its territory, and conquered its will through warfare, was no longer suitable to the international strategic setup and the South Asian subcontinent situation, which had developed and changed, and that it should “put its stress on emphasizing the role of deterrence and not emphasize conquest and occupation of territory.” Based on this idea, India began in the early 1990s to execute the military strategy of “regional deterrence.” What was called the “region” included a broad scope that started with the Himalayan range in the north and went south to the Indian Ocean, and started in the west with Iran and went east to Burma. What was called “deterrence” was based on making worst-case preparations for major fighting, using powerful military strengths as a backup, and carrying out shock-and-awe that had effective military force against various targets of operations, including deterrence at sea and nuclear deterrence. Throughout the entire 1990s, the core of India’s strategy of “regional deterrence” was “denial”, and it emphasized maintaining absolute military superiority over the countries within the South Asian subcontinent, deterring these from engaging in military adventures that would threaten India, and achieving such goals as ensuring the security of the nation’s seacoasts and territorial waters and preventing major countries from infiltrating the subcontinent.
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Upon entering the 21st century, as India’s economy quickly developed and its overall national power continually strengthened, its economic and military power exceeded the sum total of the various other countries in South Asia, and the other South Asian countries in actuality had no power to pose a major threat against India. India believed that the possibility of a large-scale total war breaking out between Pakistan and India in the future because of border disputes was small; it was more likely that there would be small- and medium-scale limited and conventional wars on the border. At the same time, the threats of terrorism, splittism, and transnational organised crime were increasing daily, and non-traditional security threats and traditional security threats were similarly serious and interwoven. Therefore, the Indian military gave the strategy of “regional deterrence” new details, and transformed the passive defence-type thinking of “denial deterrence” into a pre-emptive strike-type idea of “disciplinary deterrence;” it emphasized taking the initiative to attack, acting before the enemy does, and doing its best to win a high-tech “limited conventional war” under conditions of nuclear deterrence. As regards strategic targets, it stressed having military matters subordinate to political ones; not seeking to threaten the existence of an enemy country; and influencing or impelling an enemy country to modify its anti-Indian policies through the flexible use of military means in a restrained way, while at the same time, it itself was prepared to make necessary compromises in exchange for the enemy’s concessions. As regards preparations for war, it shifted from being prepared to fight a total war, as in the past, to being based on fighting a high-tech limited conventional war under conditions of nuclear deterrence. As regards strategic guidance, it discarded the passive defensive concept of “waiting for the enemy to arrive within India’s borders and then getting rid of him” and adopted a guiding programme of actively taking the initiative and of pre-emptive strikes, blocking the enemy in advance from large-scale attacks, so that the war would be waged on the enemy’s territory, forcing the opponent to be trapped on the defensive and in an opportune situation. As regards guidance of operations, there was a stress on joint operations by the three services, and an emphasis on “seamlessly mobilizing all resources in attacking, routing, and defeating the enemy,” and “concentrating all operational strengths for use at a single decisive point, and thus producing maximum effect.” As regards guidance of deterrence, it emphasized the use of both nuclear and conventional deterrence, using nuclear deterrence to ensure that India basically avoided invasions in war, that it was effective in keeping opponents from using nuclear weapons against India, that it limited warfare to the scope of a limited conventional war, that it developed reliable and powerful conventional means of deterrence, that it formed deterrent strengths at multiple levels, and that it used conventional military forces as the “spearhead” of the attack, that it used nuclear strengths as the “shield” of defense, and that it strengthened the flexibility and selectivity of military deterrence.
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Taking an overall look at developments in India’s military strategy since independence, it is possible to see four interrelated basic characteristics. First is a strong geopolitical nature. Since the day of its independence, India has determined its national interests through geopolitical thought, to plan its national security and draft military strategy. It has stressed that India is the heart of Asia and that the Indian Ocean is India’s ocean, it has treated the South Asian subcontinent as its sphere of influence, and it has regarded some neighboring countries as the main obstacles blocking it from achieving its geopolitical interests. India’s military strategy has treated protecting its geopolitical interests and eliminating geopolitical obstacles as its starting point and end point. After the end of the Cold War, the international security environment underwent major changes, but India still treated geopolitics as a basic factor that was the source for considering and designing military strategy, and it still determined the direction of its strategy, the means of its strategy, and the targets of its operations from the angle of a geostrategic competition, as it attempted to build the South Asian subcontinent into a strategic foundation with itself as the center, and to thus manage and control the Indian Ocean.
Second is that it has comprehensively carried on with what it has inherited. After India’s independence, at the same time that India received intact the United Kingdom’s colonial political borders, it fully carried on with the UK’s imperial expansionist military strategic thought; the most important part of this was the idea of so-called “Indocentrism.” The core of this was to treat Kashmir, Nepal, Sikkim, Bhutan, and Assam as “the internal lines of India’s defence;” to incorporate Tibet into its sphere of influence as a “buffer state;” and to treat the illegally concocted McMahon Line and the Johnson-Ardagh Line as its “security inner ring.” Nehru viewed the South Asian subcontinent and the Indian Ocean as a “security ring,” and pursued a regional security policy that had India as its main body. In addition, India also absorbed local traditional ideas of strategy. For example, it treated peripheral countries as its main opponents to be guarded against and as the targets of its operations; it was deeply affected by the traditional ideas of its historically famous strategist Chanakya, “that treated neighbors as enemies and that dealt with those who were far away and attacked those who were near,” and the “law of fish”.
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Third is limited offensives. India has proposed the national strategic objectives of “dominating South Asia, controlling the Indian Ocean, and striving to be a first-rate power in the world;” this inevitably has determined that its military strategy will have a fairly strong offensive tint. Although India insists that it pursues a “defensive” strategy, a series of military actions that it took after its independence , including three India-Pakistan wars and its armed annexation of the kingdom of Sikkim, its instigation of the Sino-Indian border conflict, and its sending troops to Sri Lanka have all fully proven that its strategy has a distinctly offensive nature. In recent years, with the rapid rise of India’s national power and military power, this offensive nature has been increasing. At the same time, because its national power and military power are limited by not being strong enough yet, the offensive nature of this strategy is restricted to the South Asian subcontinent and the Indian Ocean situation, and it temporarily has no way to fully prevent major countries outside this region from infiltrating and controlling the South Asian subcontinent and the Indian Ocean. As regards its strategy against the PRC, India has adopted a defensive posture overall, but at the same time has also used offense as a defense to actively seek local superiority, and has also used its unremitting nibbling away in peacetime to create conditions for switching from defense to offense in wartime.
Fourth is deterrence in all directions. In order to resolve the contradiction between its ambition for dominance and its limited national power and military strength, India has proposed carrying out deterrence in all directions in various spheres. After the end of the Cold War, India strengthened its relations with such great powers as the United States and Japan, adjusted its previous emphasis on actual war to an emphasis on deterrence, and has emphasized carrying out deterrence that differed in nature against differing targets and along differing strategic directions. In regard to China, it has carried out “dissuasive” deterrence, to deter China from using troops against India, and has restrained China from entering its sphere of influence. In regard to the small countries along the South Asian periphery, it has carried out “punitive” deterrence, to ensure that they do not dare go against India’s interests and to force them to humbly heed India’s control. In regards to the US, China, and India, it carries out “nuclear symmetry” deterrence; its nuclear strategic concept is to “discourage” the US, “deter” China, and “deal with” Pakistan. Of these, “deterring” China is its focus, because it thinks that only by “deterring” China will it be able to “deal with” Pakistan and have the possibility of “discouraging” the US.
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As India’s consciousness of itself as a great power grows stronger and as its overall national power and military strength continually grow, clues to the future developmental trends of its military strategy will gradually be revealed. The orientation of India’s strategic objectives may advance from regional dominance toward global participation, its strategic guidance will put more emphasis on active offense, its strategic deployments will be reflected more in its intentions to control the South Asian subcontinent and the Indian Ocean, and it will give more stress to paying attention to both the land and the sea, and to stabilizing the western front, strengthening the northern front, advancing to the east and expanding to the south, and to developing toward the sea; its forms of operations will pay more attention to joint air-land operations, mobile operations, and information warfare by the various services and service arms; the building of its military strengths will change from being inward toward being outward “trans-border operational strengths;” and it will vigorously develop a new type of system of operations that will have as their backbone aircraft carriers, fourth-generation fighters, nuclear submarines, ballistic missiles, and cruise missiles as well as anti-missile systems and outer space military systems.
To ABHINAV: LoLz! And you easily fell for this bullshit??? A glance at GoogleEarth imagery will reveal that from their forward deployment sites south of Panggong & Spanggur Tso lakes, the terrain is downhill along a gentle slope all the way to Rutog to the east of Panggong Tso & hence is ideal for high-speed travel along MLC-70 all-weather roads. The corresponding data from the IA about the speed of withdrawal isn’t available, but it is evident that a MIRROR DEPLOYMENT that the IA had an equal number of MBTs & ICVs deployed there & they too were redeployed in the same period as their PLAGF counterparts.
To ANWAY: Third SSGN (S-4) is under construction, not development.
To KAUSTAV: No one from India can accept the 1959 claim-line’s veracity simply because the negotiations conducted in 1960 (whose details I had weblinked before) exposed China as making only verbal claims & sans any supporting historical or customary documentation. Hence, from a legal standpoint, China is on a very weak wicket there & that’s precisely why India had even proposed that ther issue be taken to the ICJ for a definitive verdict. And China opposed this for the very same reason that China refused to honour the ICJ verdict of 2016 regarding the South China Sea. That’s because China gives least priority to legal arguments & instead accords far greater priority to its ‘historical’ claims, i.e. China can claim as its own sovereign territory wherever its previous generations/ancestors had stepped foot on or lined. But this also gives India the golden opportunity to make counter-claims on areas like Ngari Prefecture north of Uttarakhand, plus the Kailash Mansarovar area.
To ANUP: Totally FAKE NEWS.
To SANJAY: 1) That news-report has erroneous data. For instance, the last order pertains to the Arjun Mk.1A, meaning no more Mk.1As will be ordered after the order for the 118 units. Instead, ther Mk.2 will be ordered as its seven pre-production units have already commenced developmental mobility-cum-firepower trials. The Mk.2s will each be built with High Nitrogen Steel, which will reduce their weight from 67.5 tonnes to 62 tonnes. In addition, the powerpack will include a 1,500hp Cummins diesel engine. Consequently, the Mk.2’s power-to-weight ratio will increase from the existing 18hp/tonne to a healthy 25hp/tonne, thereby providing excellent mobility parameters over all kinds of terrain at all altitudes. The cannon will be a smoothbore 120mm one, fed by an autoloader. Hence, up to 250 Arjun Mk2s will be ordered in future. The 464 T-90S MBTs to be licence-built at HVF Avadi too will have an uprated 1,300hp diesel engine from Russia, which too will increase the power-to-weight ratio of the T-90S to 25hp/tonne. 2, 3 & 4) As I have just explained, the reduced weight & increased power-to-weight ratio of Arjun Mk.2 will enable it to be operated over all kinds of terrain at all kinds of altitude. The same goes for the T-90S powered by 1,300hp diesel engine. Consequently, there remains no need at all for any kind of light tank. ‘Desi’ patrakaars’ who are unaware of such technical details are therefore always groping in the dark & engaging in needless speculation.
Indian Navy on February 12, 2021 signed a contract for the construction of five Diving Support Craft (DSC) with Titagarh Wagons Ltd, Kolkata. The DSCs will meet mission needs of Command Clearance Diving Teams (CCDT) involved in diving assistance to all ships for underwater repair, maintenance and salvage.
https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2021/02/11/breaking-israeli-missile-engineers-sold-advanced-weapons-to-china-earning-tens-of-millionsbreaks-up/
https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1359815059413757955
dear saar
thank @chankya for clearing my query
1. is rudram-3 & pralay related since both r hypersonic (around mach 6 as u said) the recent yellow pic of rudram 3 and pralay schematic diagram seems similar wrt searing?
2. heart delighting to know arjun mk2 prototyping has started, will the design remain the same or as re-designing of turret and hull has taken place?
3. is it 120mm smoothbore or 125mm smoothbore? does it also come with active protection system?
4.has any armor improvement taken place in mk2
:)
Yogesh
Hi sir. So there's a turret redesign of Arjun & no loader?.. I made this fanart based on the older FMBT turret. Similar?
https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/arjun-main-battle-tank-mbt.9558/post-1632974
To YOGESH: 1) Yes. 2) There is re-design & re-engineering involved. 3) 120mm as I had stated above. 4) No need at all.
To RISHI: FMBT turret had a lower silhouette due to the autoloader being located in the hull. The Arjun Mk.2’s autoloader will be turret-based like that on the French Leclerc & Japanese Type 10 MBTs. Hence, turret dimensions will remain the same, but there will be enhancements like the incorporation of 360-degree awareness sensors, with one of these being finally selected:
http://tonboimaging.com/defense/products/land/dvs/darkstar/
http://tonboimaging.com/defense/products/land/sa/wolfpack/
In addition, the Gunner’s Sight aperture needs to be located above the turret as the present location compromises the frontal protection parameters when ERA tiles are reqd to be fitted in that location. In addition, the existing RCWS far too big & needs to be miniaturised, since it presently prevents the Commander’s sight from being a 360-degree sensor.
Thanks a lot for responding.
However, this is a bitbit confusing... If used in Arjun Mark2, a turret autoloader would remove the loader, so that's one less crew-member. So how can the turret layout & seating remain unchanged (when size-reduction would chance to reduce weught)?
Prasun,
1--if a new smoothbore gun was being designed for Arjun mk2 then why go for 120mm why not 130 mm or standardize on the latest russian 125mm one from the t90 provy M3
2-- who is providing the 1500 hp engine for arjun mk2?
3-- rumour that discussion on buying 500 T14 from russia will happen during putin's visit.. will t14 be on the table?
4-- what is the Iaf planning given that they have not opted for engines upgrades for both super sukhoi & Jaguar darin 3 inspite of the need to cater for additional power & weight?
5- scrapping of the "fast track" tender for 93k carbines & issuing a new one.. what cud be the idae behind it.. is the govt trying to favour some co? how will UAE react as caracal was selected as L1 in the earlier tender
Many Thanks for the refresher course on the modern battle tanks.
Sir,
Please shed some light on the following UFO documentary :
https://youtu.be/wZTYhwwq4tc
Wrt Arjun mk1a handing over ceremony, couple of questions:- 1) how many tanks are going to be handed over tomorrow? 2) when will all 118 be handed over?
Oi Yogesh how is it you ask questions in English and yet don't know how to spell SIR? Go figure out the basics before you ask technical questions buddy.
To RISHI: You are ASSUMING that a turret-mounted autoloader houses all 40-odd rounds of ammo. In reality, it houses only up to 22 rounds, with the rest being held in storage inside the hull. Then there are also the anti-helicopter laser-guided rounds to be accommodated. Hence, a turret-mounted autoloader in no ways helps in reducing internal volume. Here are illustrations of turret-mounted autoloaders, none of which helped reduce the turret volumes of either the Leclerc or the Type 90/Type 10 MBTs:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ks4CRB9LilU/Wybt8cvFIpI/AAAAAAAAPEI/tTtqA6Z15nk_nXiGNxvnLfigNsggOsOkwCLcBGAs/s1600/AMX-56%2BLeclerc%2BMBT%2527s%2BTurret%2BBustle.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZnrrOlyFi-Y/Wyb1qEqjjVI/AAAAAAAAPE0/-3hePAZEVS4Tqg2VGovDtEORH7xIetBAwCLcBGAs/s1600/AMX-56%2BLeclerc%2BMBT%2527s%2BAutoloader-1.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5oFtnjpvh14/WymXjDkcfBI/AAAAAAAAPHs/Ng_ledmRgtQ8fcVaxTXOES9J6NTvwIB7wCLcBGAs/s1600/Mitsubishi%2BAutoloader.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SL0yT7DBJrs/WymXpULJ64I/AAAAAAAAPHw/EiNxgYGo7Nw3GQxN_9Y61-T1Epa9jVdTgCLcBGAs/s1600/Nexter%2BAutoloader.jpg
And you can read all about it here:
http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2018/06/given-below-are-weblinks-of-show.html
To JUST_CURIOUS: 1) Because of the configuration of the turret-mounted autoloader, i.e. the CVRDE & IA had both expressed interest in adopting the design approaches embraced by the France & Japan. 2) As I had stated above, it is Cummins, via Kirloskar. 3) It is FAKE NEWS. 4) Super Su-30MKI is still cleared for the AL-41 turbofan & a re-engining decision will be taken in future. 5) OFB-made SMGs of both 5.56mm & 9mm barrel diameter are equally good & there’s no need to import any SMGs.
To SANJEEV: Normally, only a single MBT is symbolically handed over. But the first batch of five MBTs will be handed over to the IA within 30 months of signing of the contract later today.
Pakistan-Turkey EX Ataturk XI at Tarbela https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSSSMjJJ7FI
QUAD's Militarisation Prospects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWHzEc25grc
USI Webinar on PoK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkuX1zoitZ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NCxnKgur7A
12th Jumbo Majumdar Conference Webinar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN2Vb3hYhsY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ5dkaiGIjw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ5caaSJ0NI
Global Microchip Shortage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlQqMomojw
PLAGF Garrison at HELMET TOP celebrating the Lunar New Year yesterday:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuEinxnUYAAkBXQ?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuEinxnUcAMrp7r?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuEinxnVgAEHdmp?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuEinxoUcAcJ-9f?format=jpg&name=large
I was aware of the turret autoloader max.size but I get you point. Thanks.
Also, you say there's no armour icrease, but Arjun's gun mantlet is, only 300mm that can be penetrated by a T-55!.. Leopard2 & Type90 shared that design & later versions of both have removed that. Plus they attempted to add side armour in Mark1A, anything on these?
In past Arjun had a very prototype that doesn't havehave those design flaws (that have earned Arjun a lot of ridicule).
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ei7auQFU8AAIAOl?format=jpg&name=large
Thanks Prasun for the reply! Do you also know what’s the status of 8 Akash squadrons ordered by IAF(besides the 6 that it already has). What’s their delivery schedule?
Dear Prasun,
Are you happy with the things going on? You have been pushing for making the PSU as public listed companies. Modi government is going in that direction to get rid of needling of beaurocracy. Please share your views.
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/opinion/an-unresponsive-bureaucracy-is-weighing-down-modis-push-for-reforms-6501101.html?utm_source=telegram&utm_medium=social
o RISHI: During MBT vs MBT engagements, no one attacks the other from the front. Attacks always target the side or rear of the MBT. Hence, the gun mantlet is the least likely area to be hit. On the sides protecting the driver's compartment, there are ERA slabs mounted. The Mk.1A variant features 71 improvements over the Mk.1 version. Here are the videoclips of today's 'Tamaashaa':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZrJRuztuOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcoEAe2ekmw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4SERPyB_8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4N8P4AIVyI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqA8lx8fuAE
To SANJEEV: Those deliveries will be completed by 2023.
To ASD: LoLz! Looks like the decision-makers have started reading the writings on the wall. All this should have happened in the mid-1980s itself. What a gigantic waste of time we have all witnessed so far!!! Also, this should serve as a further eye-opener:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsAVWKSkftI&t=42s
I see... Every single tank designer in the world seems to disagree with that, but yes armour haven never been amongst IA's complaints vis-a-vis Arjun. Thanks.
Hi Prasun
there is a lot of wild speculation online about PLAAF missiles like PL-15 and mythical PL-21 with some claiming PL-15 having ranges of 200km-to 400km. since you visit Chinese defense expos what do you suppose the ranges of PL-15 is when fired from say 30000 feet. and how is the AIM 260 missile different from AIM-120D apart from increased range.
Mr. Prasun
In above reply to Sanjeev did you mean all 15 Sqns of Akash MK1 SAM will be delivered to IAF by 2023 as 8 I suppose have already been delivered and 7 Sqns with improved Mk1S Missiles were on order.
aarpee
Hi Prasun,
Are we going to vacate the Kailash range that we occupied during the stand-off? Would it be wise if we do?
Best Regards
Raj
sir
whats your view on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0-md0Ont7c
Even if Biden is not suffering from Alzheimer, still it is quite clear that his son is compromised to china. And geopolitically, even if we leave alone India & Quad, it going to have adverse affect on Japanese/Aussie-US relations. I dont think Japanese going to trust this administration.
And such videos are surfacing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj3zxBeVl1M
It is looking like someone else running this administration.
To RISHI: MBT design is never generic & instead has from time to time been optimised to suit various types of battlefields. For instance, cannon mantlet-related vulnerabilities emerged in the 1990s only when the MBts were exposed to closed-quarter battles being fought in urbanised areas (involving usage of new-generation RPGs) , as in Grozny in Chechnya & later in Iraq in the next decade. In the IA’s case, since its MBTs will never be reqd to fight within urbanised areas, the vulnerability/survivability matrix remains different from an operational standpoint. Consequently, it will be unwise to compare or benchmark the Arjun MBT’s design with those of its Western/Russian counterparts. And here are 2 excellent explanations of the Arjun Mk.1 MBT’s features:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_TnTpzqO2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pRuUL_DAHA
The only 2 items not shown were the 120mm penetration-cum-blast round & the 120mm thermobaric round, whose visuals I will upload later. In addition, the Tungsten Alloy-made APFSDS penetrator projectile (whose photo I will upload later) is made by Mahindra Naval Systems & is then supplied to OFB for final assembly of the round.
To HOODS007: LoLz! Indeed, both speculation & downright disinformation being spread by those bloggers who always like to portray China as being 9-feet tall. In reality, both the so-called PL-15 & PL-21 exist in several experimental designs that are still being developed for competitive evaluations. Nowhere are they close to operational service-induction. And both of them will still be BVRAAMs, and not LRAAMs.
To AARPEE: All those ordered in the second tranche. First tranche’s deliveries commenced in 2015 & have been completed.
To RAJ: Yes, that’s part of the deal. But one must be SMART to also assess what’s not been stated. For instance, although foot patrols by both the IA-ITBP & PLA-BDR will be temporarily suspended for at least 6 months between Finger 3 & Finger-8, waterborne patrols by both will continue but without stepping on to the shores. Similarly, just as the PLA-BDR has stationed unmanned long-range optronic sensors on HELMET TOP, the IA/ITBP too has stationed similar unmanned remote-controlled sensors on BLACK TOP & other peaks along the Kailash Range. So, while there will be no human presence in such areas, 24/7 surveillance of & from these areas will continue.
To ARPIT KANODIA: I will tend to ascribe the new POTUS’ physical inabilities to plain nervousness or strained nerves on his first day as POTUS. But it must also be noted that the POTUS has a vast array of supporting institutional depts. & staff who help formulate national strategies & policies & these very institutions were instrumental in making former POTUS Trump adopt an aggressive anti-China attitude posture. And the republicans will thus keep a hawk-eye on this Administration & at the slightest slip will raise the alarm-bells. But for now, the Biden Administration has sustained the anti-China aggressive posture, which will continue for at least another 18 months.
Deliveries of Barak-8 LR-SAM to Indian Navy Completed:
https://twitter.com/DRDO_India/status/1360944172249718789
PN-Hosted EX AMAN’s Demo at Manora, Karachi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw8DLgsAUUI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-CKr4TqMfs
hi prasun
this lrsan is the 150 km verison?
Are these lrsams for navy for existing Kolkata class destroyers or the visakhapattanam class? What about deliveries for nilgiri class frigates?
To RAD: The IN refers to the 70km-range Barak-8 as LR-SAM. And here is an interesting book on air operations against ISIS:
OP Inherent Resolve: https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA388-1.html#download
To SANJEEV: They are for arming present & future warships of the IN. They will be held in storage until the IAC-1, P-15B DDGs & P-17A FFGs are available for armament installation.
prasun,
1- Did the germans & belgian small arms co's-H&K & FNH refuse to supply guns to us during the ladakh standoff.. i had read earlier too that germans have been acting funny over kashmir.. if true, what's with them .. & these 2 coz should be banned forever
2- This whole Greta Theunberg thing .. swedish ploy to influence the world -- qatar playbook using al jazeera n try biting more than you can chew.. something erdogan too is trying out using ottoman series ertugul & other ottoman relics? ..clearly needs to be highlighted under child abuse in the UN
Mr.Prasun
1)I remember reading in Newspapers around 2015-16 that the Arjun MK2 ( now MK1A) MBT is deemed to heavy by the Army and it will only be inducted when it's Mass is reduced but now we are seeing that it will be inducted by 2023-24 is indeed a good sign for indigenous industry.
2)But I know eventually the MK2 HNS which will weigh around 62 tonnes will be also available maybe by 2026-27.
3)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_TnTpzqO2g
In this video the DRDO guy saying that it is cramped up inside T-90S is very true because in February 2019 in the Western Desert I had the opportunity to go inside a T-90S and I had my head hurt in the Commander's compartment.
But I must confess that never entered a Arjun MBT although saw them in front of my eyes.
Thank you
Sanjay
hi prasun
pse check the nose section of the barak missile depicted here , me thinks it is a glass dome for a the IIR seeker?? i do remember vaguely that you mentioned dualmode guidancce long time ago?? when is the 150 km barak comming in?
https://www.aircosmosinternational.com/article/iai-delivers-first-lrsam-missile-for-indian-navy-1265
how hard is it for the desi arde and the good lt col designed SMG to make it ??
i believe the JVPC is being inducted in small numbers ? why is the army shy about it?
why this new tamasha of retender for carbines?
how do we stop the chinks from suddenly occupying the heights even though there is passive surveilance sytem as these bugger dont have any ethics?
tonbo is leaping ahead in tech i feel? why cant they design a IIR system like on the f-35 the DAS , i am sure they can do it given the suitable hardware . More over the system is old ie 15 + years since inception and hardware and softwate has grown leaps and bounds . DAS feasible on the ALCA?
what about the IRST program that satish reddy talked about ? any hand holding ? we seem to have no experiance in that hardware and software dept?
Dear Prasunda,
Good day, could you kindly tell us
1. What would be the IA's eventual standard issue infantry assault rifle and carbines for front line infantry battalions?
2. When would the IAF procure a second batch of 33 Mig 29s?(In addition to the 21 that are under contract negotiation now)
3. How any additional Mig 29K's would the IN order for the IAC1?
Thanks
Kiran
Analysis?.. srry I meant to share this tweet
https://twitter.com/rajfortyseven/status/1360958233574137860
To JUST_CURIOUS: 1) Why should there be any need to import such SMGs when domestic suppliers can now produce both 5.56mm & 9mm SMGs? This whole business of seeking imported carbines is sickening. 2) Why blame a foreigner when India-based Indian citizens are the ones creating Toolkits?
To SANJAY: 1) The Arjun Mk.1 & Mk.1A were deemed heavy at a time when most roads & bridges back then were of MLC-50 standard. Since 2016 the BRO began upgrading all of them to MLC-70 standard that could accept loads of up to 70 tonnes & hence all such complaints have since disappeared. 2) It will be available sooner, but HVF Avadi can produce only 15 such MBts per annum. However, if I were the decision-maker, I would begin introducing quantum improvements into the HNS-built Arjun Mk.2 right in earnest by incorporating an interior configured like the cockpit of the MWF, because the quantum of vectronics to be installed will be greater for the sake of improved 360-degree situational awareness & hence the gunner & driver will be reqd to sit almost side-by-side equipped with side-mounted joysticks akin to that used on the cockpits of the Rafale & MWF. Hence, the CVRDE needs to seek critical design inputs from ADA. 3) The interiors of T-72CIA & T-90S are extremely cramped & there’s hardly enough room left for installing any additional vectronics. The Arjun MBT family on the other hand has stand-up interior & hence there’s no need to crouch.
To RAD: LoLz! Your imagination is taking to flights of fancy. Here is another slide of the LR-SAM:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuP8i-EVoAAhrHk?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
As is evident, there’s mo aperture for an IIR seeker. Any IIR seeker for either a SAM or SRAAM needs a far bigger & wider aperture for achieving off-boresight slewing capability. Why should there be any need to import such SMGs when domestic suppliers can now produce both 5.56mm & 9mm SMGs? This whole business of seeking imported carbines is sickening. Unattended LORROS-type sensors atop mountain-tops give fairly advance warning about anyone trying to approach the heights. They can easily locate vehicular or foot-mounted traffic approaching such heights. I’m sure TONBO is also bidding for developing IRST sensors for MRCAs like the MWF, TEDBF, AMCA etc etc.
To KANE1966/KIRAN: 1) For formations deployed along the LoC & LAC, it will be the SIG-SAUER SLRs. For the RR, Assam Rifles & certain CAPFs it will be the AK-203, while for the rest it will be a mix of AK-203 & OFB-developed Ghaatak. But most CAPFs & state Police forces, the Trichy family of SLRs & SMGs are the favourites. 2) No timeline has been set as yet. 3) None. Both INS Vikramaditya & IAC-1 are configured for accepting only MiG-29Ks.
EX Ataturk XI at Tarbela: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyei5UD33ic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKUVqzj94tM
PA’s EX Jidar-ul-Hadeed in Thar Desert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbX4WB1rSik
EX YUDH ABHYAS in Rajasthan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iEt5R0Gprs
PN’s EX AMAN in Karachi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT1hpX9KodI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0El_Xau2wMM
Myanmar Army’s Ukraine-Origin BTR-3A APCs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_BbEotiudU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cm7pIJ7SG8
JMSDF’s Soryu SSK Collision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=httacbcqfE4
LAC Disengagement Details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuQmXLLp8_c
To SHIV: It is an idiotic claim, since it has already been stated that this disengagement is only a temporary measure & not a permanent feature. The same thing had happened in September 2014 in Chumur & only when both parties agreed not to patrol the contested areas for a 6-month period that the standoff was resolved.
https://youtu.be/gFoefxX3rb8
Pakistani's ran away in Somalia in 1993 after a few shots.
Ranveer
Prasun Da, in this article the author says that Ladakh proves that Russia won't side with India against China, ever. Because Russia is firmly in the China camp
https://theprint.in/opinion/global-print/ladakh-shows-russia-wont-choose-between-india-and-china-it-doesnt-want-to/592085/
Is this assertion true?
Thanks
Prasun sir
1)Is it correct that China doesn't want India to take back pok because when Chinese go to capture Wakhan Corridor India can't assist Afghanistan? Can you elaborate?
2)Is Prahaar Missile part of SFC or IA's Artillery Divisions?
3)Are 4 Brahmos regiments inducted into the army?
Thanks
Harish
To ANUP: That story was of 2020 vintage. Matters have moved ahead since then.
To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: LoLz! Wasn’t she also the same ‘desi patrakaar’ who had once claimed that the US & Russia were tens of thousands of miles apart? That should serve as ample proof about her reliability & analytical irrationality.
Meanwhile, I have uploaded above the SDR-Airborne’s brochure, which I had missed the last time.
But this again is perplexing:
https://www.pearson-eng.com/pearson-engineering-to-supply-1500-track-width-mine-ploughs-to-indian-army/
And now the Indian Army has stated that it has inducted this into service:
https://www.lnt-defence.com/our-offerings/land-systems/combat-engineering-systems/mine-clearance-system/
Perhaps they are 2 separate contracts, i.e. the first for TWMPs & the second for EMPs.
To HARISH: 1) had already elaborated upon it several times since last May in various threads dealing wikth the LAC standoff. 2) The IA’s Artillery Divisons operate & maintain all land-based strategic arsenals, while the SFC exercises only command & control over such assets. 3) Yes.
hi prasun
give us someinfo on the multirole netra2 awacs. real? or fan boy art?
is it better to develop the maritime aesa radar given we have already made some headway in that area?
so in what band would it operate assuming the awacs will be operating in S band ., what will be the SAR mode for the same .
I gues we are going in for the GAn modules? some what equal to the g global eye?
will it have the staying power of the global eye.? what happens if pak is supplied with that?
drdo people are talking of the astra 2 AAM , what will be the fundamental difference to the original one ? aesa seeker?
Hi Prasun
regarding FBW in helicopters, these days all new choppers are coming with FBW including the Z-20. since ADA already has experience with FBW for tejas, why do you think that HAL in not incorporating it in IMRH. is it cost or because it will increase flight testing by 2-3 years more.
To RAD: As I explained earlier, it is the target recognition algorithms that are critical, not the hardware. hence, within a single aperture or AESA array, there can be some S-band TRMs using target recognition algorithms for maritime surveillance over the seas, while other S-band TRMs can do airspace scanning by using target recognition algorithms for AEW & C functions. And yet some more L-band TRMs can handle IFF functions while X-band TRTMs can do battlefield surveillance. So, L-band, S-band & X-band TRMs can all be housed within a single AESA antenna array. And all such TRMs use GaN microchips. Astra-2 BVRAAM will have conventional Ku-band seeker & will use ramjet propulsion like the Meteor BVRAAM.
To HOODS007: As I had stated earlier, it is a no-brainer to develop an Indian version of the Mi-17. Hence, any new-generation MRH due to enter service early next decade will be reqd to have a FBW flight-control system. Non-inclusion of FBW-FCS on IMRH can only be reflective of the helicopter designer's myopia, just like CVRDE not seeking inputs from ADA for the workstations of the Arjun Mk.2, FRCV & FICV vehicles.
Hello Prasun Dada
Two Questions for you which are inspired by the recent spate of worldwide criticism we have encountered owing to the Farm Laws (which as is widely known now, is just a ruse to clamour for the overthrowing of and hurling of international sanctions upon the existing Narendra Modi led government)
1. How long before the US puts sanctions such as those against Iran, China, and Russia, upon India?
2. What would be the process to circumvent it in a way to ensure to the best possible extent preservation of fast growth, absorption of technology, and capital?
If the two questions seem baffling. Here is my rationale behind it, albeit a bit lengthy. Apologies for the same and sincerely hope you will be accomodating the whole of my comment here which I will break down into three parts for convenience.
I foresee, the US-led political order to sooner or later impose sanctions upon India. The US is most certainly not a standalone geopolitical bloc but runs and heads a collective of Western-dominated political, economic, military, technological, and MOST IMPORTANTLY religious world order. The roots of it go as far back as the origins of Abrahamisms. This eventually culminated in the establishment and spread of not only Judeo-Christian traditions but also supporting institutions the world over, with marquee events such as the French Revolution formally cementing its place as foremost in the pecking order of the world. There is something else that also happened with the FR- The ascension of Godless Judeo-Abrahamisms, i.e. liberalism and the institutions that they fawned- primarily secular democratic nation-states with their secular organs such as the judiciary, law, police, media, bureaucracy, etc.
The imperialist drive that drove Judeo-Christian theology was naturally imbibed and continued to thrive as part of the mother memetic Liberalism umbrella, and the countless variants of the Godless Judeo-Christian memes such as Communism, Progressivism, Feminism, Nazism, Socialism, Wokism, Rationalism, Humanism, Fascism etc. to name a few. Additionally, they also imbibed Jan Assmann's Mosaic Distinction at its very core. Therefore, not only all forms of conservatism which represent social order, became anathema, but also false. And therefore, they were either systematically destroyed through institutional control or cried out for being "Nazi/Fascist" or 'cancelled' (in its latest avatar). This also meant that all these -isms will be vehemently opposed to polytheisms like the earlier Paganisms and now, Hinduism besides handful others.
How does all of this imply badly for India?
The future of India is Hindutva. It is the quest for a strong unifying Hindu state. Through Hindutva, the Hindu Rashtra (nation) of Bharata/India seeks to protect and arm itself against inimical forces both internal and external, to ensure its survival and sustenance. Our economic, military and technological quests are also a necessary byproduct of the same. The adversaries are many and pose a daunting existential challenge for the Hindus. Right from the restive Muslim population which threatens a mid-long term second partition of India to the very nature of the Secular democratic state of India which essentially is adversarial to Hindu culture and institutions.
The Indian state and Constitution, being an inheritance of the British Raj, especially, has provided a protective umbrella and, at other times, acted as a conduit for all kinds of subversive ideologies such as socialism, secularism, liberalism, progressivism-communism, islamism, christian evangelism, etc. The inheritance from the Brits also left behind a heavily compromised set of elites for us. This not only continues today but has fawned even greater number of elites, through decades of secular institutional bias and indoctrination, which are antagonistic to Hindus and by extension revolt at the very thought of a strong unified Hindu nation.
Part 1/3
Cont'd from above
The rise of Hindutva and its quest for a Hindu state is a response to this systemic bias and the existential threat it poses to Hindus. While the process had set in motion long back with the Vijayanagara Empire and took concrete shape with the Maratha Empire when the Hindus convincingly defeated Islamic power in India, the end game which could solve the nagging and troubling Hindu-Muslim question got deferred due to the butting in of the Brits. This legacy carries on today as forces of Islamism gather steam like never before. While the Muslims were raw military and physical power, the Brits were a different ball game altogether through their effective reliance on meddling institutions as a means to annex power and subvert indigenous populations as is widely known.
During the transfer of power, it was in the Brit interests to keep the Indian state weak. Not only for geo-political ends but also civilizational/religious ends. Hinduism was an ideological counter to Judeo-Christian world and its existence and sustenance propounded existential dilemma for them. The Brits successfully achieved their objectives through wholesale adoption of Brit institutions and placement of compromised elites to helm over them. It also kept institutional channels with the West open, which subsequently was utilized by the US-UK combine to entrench anti-Hindu/BreakingIndia/Indian forces through the establishment of a civil society which had significant back and forth, and give and take, with similar institutions in the West established with the stated objective of furthering and sustaining Western geopolitical and religious order. The NGO, Media, Think Tank, Academia, Judiciary, Bureaucracy nexus was the byproduct. Widescale academic focus on Hindu culture and casteism to justify and birth centrifugal forces, including various political movements, tucking away at Hindu social cohesion, mass protests against development/reforms, environmental activism as a means to erode Hindu culturalism or stagnate development, pre-eminence of foreign-backed actors/sepoys in the intellectual sphere to nibble away at any semblance of systems or actions undergirding a strong unified Hindu nation, a Marxist Academia-NGO brainstormed curriculum negating any strong Hindu roots of the present Indian nation, providing academic-media-judicial-bureaucratic immunity to wholesale conversions of Hindus, ensuring a weak military and socialist economy are but only a few of the implications of the above-mentioned set-up.
The survival and glory of India, therefore, lies through a path where the secular state along with all of its constituent arms and orgs, will have to act against its very foundations. A complete re-doing of the constitution will be needed.
I am not even sure if the existing Modi-Shah combine understand the forces at play and the requisite actions to be undertaken, or if they are remotely competent for the same. But an eventual re-writing of the constitution and establishment of a strong, unifying and secure Hindu state is the writing on the wall.
Part 2/3
Cont'd from above
The west led by the US maintains its civilizational pre-eminence by spreading Prog-Liberalism worldwide with the same imperialist zeal as its judeo-christian foundations, along with its more rabid variants such as Wokism. All of this done through exporting democracies and foundations, think-tanks, NGO, humanitarian orgs, etc. backed by so-called multilateral institutions like United Nations. But these also imbibe the Mosaic Distinction, which naturally make the elimination of Paganic religions like Hinduism their raison d'etre. And therefore, rise of Hindutva is viewed with great antagonism among the global Liberalism memeplex. The consistent bad press and calls for overthrowing or sanctioning of the Indian government, since Modi's ascension needs to be viewed in this light. Given, how the US State Deparment is the invisible hand pulling at the strings of the various Orgs at the heart of this exercise across the world, the intention is laid bare. A strong unifying Hindu force taken to its logical conclusion, therefore, is an ideological and hence, existential threat to the US, just as China's Techno-Authoritarianism is for its Liberalism sustaining Democratic system.
Sadly, if the great Western power apparatus with its constituent coteries, or the spectre of 25+ crore and rapidly rising radicalised Islamists, were not enough the Hans are our great rivals too. It could also be the case that the West might not wait for us to rise before acting against us, like they did with China. In this case, we ought to treat no one as pariah and forge opportunistic alliances to ensure our rise till such time that we are capable enough to take on the combined might of the 'Mleccha' powers of the West led by the US.
Thanks in advance.
^Ashish
To ASHISH: In my humble opinion, India will never be able to seek salvation for as long as her present-day ‘intellectuals’ continue to be mentally enslaved by Western narratives (like HINDUTVA) while striving for seeking salvation, self-respect & a sense of high self-esteem. And that’s precisely why countries like Iran & Vietnam, despite facing the whole brunt of pressures (military & economic), continue to hold their heads high & have the degree of sagacity reqd for the marathon that ultimately leads to victory. The problem, in essence, is India’s never-ending quest for seeking out & defining a dominant national narrative & hence for some the country is Bharat, for others it is Hindustaan & for many more it is India. And from all these stem various contradictory strands that: 1) put a premium on zenophobic nationalism instead of proud patriotism. 2) Give rise to bizarre interpretations & terminology like ‘Dharam Parivartan’. If the term ‘Parivartan’ means a change for the better or upgradation, then how can one oppose a change of one’s religious faith? After all, change in Hindi means ‘Badlaav’. But how come the term ‘Badlaav’ has been junked in favour of ‘Parivartan’? If ‘Parivartan’ means a change for the better, then how can anyone oppose someone junking one religious to adopt another, ostensibly because of its greater attractions? So, unless the corruption within India’s native languages (Hindi in this case) is removed, a terribly confusing, contradictory & flawed narrative will continue to dominate various national discourses. Related to all this is the continued reliance on the term ‘Hindu’ as part of a futile effort to stand up to religious theosophies emanating from the Abrahamic religious theocracy. Consequently, there exists an over-reliance on terms like ‘Hinduism’ & ‘Hindutva’, which are derived from the Anglo-Saxon & Caucasian misinterpretations of ancient Indian history. For instance, Bharat was referred to as AL HIND since the time Buddhism was prevalent in Bharat that had then stretched all the way to today’s Central Asia, & in subsequent times too when Zoroastrianism overtook Buddhism in Central Asia, Bharat was still referred to as AL HIND by both Persians & Arab, as per recorded ancient Persian manuscripts. When the Brits colonised India, they changed AL HIND into HINDUSTAAN, but in order to divide & rule, they again manipulated historical factoids to come up with their own suitable definitions of theocratic segregations & thus came into being terms like ‘Hindus’ & ‘Muslims’, while the Persian settlers in India were still labelled as Parsis (derived from the term ‘FARSI’, hailing from the land known as FARS/Persia) & not as followers of Zarathustra. And since then, the so-called religious majority in India has been trying in vain to swim through this quagmire as part of persistent efforts to seek out a distinct identity. So, where does the solution lie?
Cont'd below...
Simply put, it all about self-correction. Those professing allegiance to the so-called ‘Hindu’ religious faiths must give up the irrational effort to equate themselves with the followers of Abrahamic faiths & must also stop indulging in competitive benchmarking with such faiths. And a start can be made by redefining the term DHARMA. For, in all ancient Indian texts, DHARMA was never defined as being a religious theosophy, but was instead called a CODE OF CONDUCT. And that’s why even VEDANTA was defined by Swami Vivekananda as a PHILOSOPHY, and not as part of any religious theology like Judaism, Christianity & Islam. Even Jainism & Buddhism are philosophies, not theocratic religions. Hence, the final solution that will give rise to a unifying national narrative for India is to embrace DHARMA as a CODE OF CONDUCT, which stands far higher above than any other existing religious theosophy such as the Abrahamic religions. If not, then clinging on to discredited colonial-era constructs like Hinduism/Hindutva will only prove to be more divisive as the days go by, which in turn will stroke the flames of the ever-divisive sub-nationalist narratives, such as the Shiv Sena-ruled Maharashtra picking up a fight with Karnataka over which state should rule over Belgaum or Karwar; or the MNS having visceral hatred against Maharashtra-based migrants hailing from Bihar, UP & Jharkhand; or the Shiv Sena attacking the Gujrati communities of Maharashtra.
I'm not into conspiracy theories & hence all I can say is that while the West & others only wanted India to allow the conduct of peaceful protests, it was up to the Govt of India to draw the line between peaceful protests & civil disobedience. But the Govt of India miserably failed to draw this line & this is what led to the prolonged Shaheen Bagh protests & the consequent communal pogrom in & around Delhi a year ago, & more recently the events of January 26. And this will continue to happen for as long as the criminal justice system isn't reformed & the Criminal Procedure Codes & Policing SOPs continue to hail from the colonial era, which has suited India's successive ruling political dispensations just fine. Thus, India's enemies & anti-India conspirators & perpetrators all continue to lie well within India & hence one need not go at all beyond India's shores to look for & seek out India's enemies in any country abroad.
Interviews given by the IA's GOC-in-C Northern Command:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmrdqWPcC6E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwaHj1nKMvc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwTxyE4LK_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9EY32wPDdY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLX3Mtwmtqs
Highly surprising that no such interview was given to Doordarshan.
And while the whole is watching the PLAGF's withdrawal from the North & South Banks of Panggong Tso, China's state-owned news broadcasters continue to show the PLAGF continuing its patrolling in Tibet, and no footage on the disengagements:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOM6Lied3wY
To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: This can only be a stinging factual rebuttal of that desi patrakkar's claims about Russia's role in the China-India LAC standoff:
https://theprint.in/diplomacy/india-china-disengagement-to-conclude-in-2-3-days-says-foreign-secretary-shringla/606896/
One can only hope that she refrains from making further irrational claims & assessments in future.
Hi Prasun
we know that AMP (astra microwave) has developed 2 AESA RF seeker using vivaldi configuration in both x band and ku band.x band one is supposed to go on the Brahmos-NG,but has there been any progress in integrating the ku band aesa rf seeker on astra mk-1 AAM. and we also know that a Ka band Active RF seeker has also been developed but what is the status on developing the aesa ka band RF seeker? or is it that when people talk about the active RF seekers they are talking about an AESA active RF seeker.
Sir, how are u doing these days? I hv some out of context questions.
1) as u told that developing a 2nd Mi17 would not be that beneficial for various reasons, why HAL is not attempting to develop Mi 17 class heli based on new concept of pusher propeller?? They can take kamov's design consultancy for dual main rotor config n NALs help too for basic aerodynamic design research. & Yes why force's don't release such GSQRs?? Why are they still living in old era when world is going one step ahead...
2) since Navy's TEDBF is financially not viable option for us, why Navy is not supporting development of AMCA as a naval aircraft later on deriving IAF version out of naval version, just like F-35/Rafale?? That would be financially & technically better na?
Creation of Air defense theater and maritime theater commands. Thoughts?
Are you Jai Bhawani Jai Shivaji?
Raj
Thanks for sharing that link Prasun Da.
In that case, please share your assessment of the future of India-Russia relations. Defence is no longer the bedrock because India is now turning more towards the US.
Russia can sell a few nuclear reactors but eventually so will the U.S. So does this relation (India- Russia) has any future?
Thanks again
Sir,
https://breakingdefense.com/2021/02/clean-sheet-f-16-replacement-in-the-cards-csaf-brown/
Mr.Prasun
We are all wrongly celebrating the handing over of Arjun MK1A tank(I think it was more political work because elections are coming in TN).
The order is yet to be placed and even if it is placed first 5 prototypes will be given to Army for testing in 2.5 years and testing will take another Year or 2.
Also the rate of production will be 15 per year as you mentioned that is if starting in 2024(15*6) by 2030 it would be only 105 such a long time this is very very slow.
The MK2 we should forget about it till 2030.
Thanks
Ajay
To HOODS007: The AMP-built RF seekers are for different applications, i.e. Ku-band for Akash-NG & X-band AESA-array for the Pralay-type SS-BSMs. For the BrahMos-1/-NG, the X-band seekers will come from both ECIL & DATA Patterns. The W-band millimetric-wave seekers will go on the SANT & Rudram-1 NG-ARMs. The Ka-band AESA-based RF seeker is meant for the XR-SAM.
To ASHISH GAUTAM: 1) That’s because when it comes to developing new-generation platform, the armed services are terribly conservative & hence always veer towards ‘proven’ designs. 2) The most obvious reason is that the IN is not convinced by the IAF’s over-enthusiasm WRT the AMCA Mk.1 & hence wanted a more sober solution.
To SANJEEV: Commands by their nature require integral assets & hence while the Maritime Theatre Command will be feasible, the Air-Defence Command is a no-brainer as it will eat up the existing assets of the IAF. Instead, the focus ought to be on the creation of a tri-services, unified air-defence NETWORK, instead of a Command HQ.
Understanding China’s Play: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tXYB4stJsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKC-wLj96zY&t=11s
To RAJ GUPTA: Neither. I stand for Jai Bhaarath.
To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: Here is one assessment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AozJUFvdbKE
India & Russia now look set to operationalise the Vladivostok-Chennai Maritime Corridor, in which Vietnam too will be included & this will enable Russia to have a credible say on Indo-Pacific affairs.
To ANWAY: That could be a cheaper variant of the F-35 Lightning JSF, like South Korea’s KFX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJSfyOAZswg&feature=emb_title
To AJAY: All testing of Arjun Mk.1A has been concluded & hence all those MBTs flowing out of HVF Avadi will go straight to those IA armoured regiments that are due for converting to the Arjun Mk.1A. Now awaiting orders are the Arjun BLT & Arjun ARV support vehicles.
Sir,
It seems everyone is beating the bush in the dark to understand what CCP is doing and what its end goal is when this is only a temporary arrangement and the usual chest-thumping.
What do you think about why CCP took this tactical retreat?
Prasunda
The Gripen maritime being 40 percent smaller than the mig 29 would enable the vikramaditya and vikrant to field wings of comparable size to the bigger PLAN ACs.
Also the Gripen is more mordern, carries the same amount of ammo, has twice the range, a much smaller RCS, weapons like the meteor and irst
Why can't the Indian Navy buy around 80 to 90 gripens, 30 each for the carriers and trainers and replacement aircraft and make the naval carrier strike groups really potent.
The gripens architecture is also far more upgradeable and modern, it's RCS is many times less than the mig 29k and they can serve the 15 years it takes to get the naval amca into service.
Also the smaller size makes the ACS able to accomodate many more gripens than Rafales making them a better option.
Also Gripen has the only GAN aesa radar in service
What are the points against it
To DASHU: Nothing surprising at all, since I had mentioned last year that come winter-time the disengagements will begin since Mother Nature always reigns supreme. But that does not mean that everything will be Honky-Dory after that, since there are a total of 23 friction-points along the entire LAC where skirmishes can always take place.
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/comment/lac-withdrawal-plan-gives-china-the-edge-213337
Meanwhile, the PLA has admitted to losing only 4 of its soldiers last June 15 at the Galwan River-Valley:
http://www.81.cn/yw/2021-02/19/content_9987403.htm
Since April 2020, the relevant foreign troops have seriously violated the agreement between the two countries by building roads, bridges and other facilities in the Kalwan Valley area to reach the border, deliberately provoking incidents, trying to unilaterally change the status quo of border control, and even violently attacking China. Officers and soldiers going to negotiate on the spot. The officers and soldiers dared to fight, dared to win, and demonstrated their bold loyalty to defend the motherland's territory to the death and the fighting spirit of not being afraid of hardship and not afraid of death. The commander of a border defense regiment Qi Fabao, the commander of a plane infantry battalion Chen Hongjun and the fighter Chen Xiangrong emerged, Xiao Siyuan, Wang Zhuoran and other advanced models, demonstrated the high-spirited style of the heroes defending the country and defending the border in the new era. The Central Military Commission awarded Qi Fabao the honorary title of "Hero of Defending the Country and Defending the Borders" and posthumously awarded the honorary title of "Hero Defending the Borders and Defending the Country" to Chen Hongjun, giving first-class merits to Chen Xiangrong, Xiao Siyuan, and Wang Zhuoran.
To CHANAKYA CHATTERJEE: The IN cannot buy them because no one in the world has so far developed a carrier-based variant of the JAS-39 Gripen. One is not even sure if a paper design exists with Saab. All that has been produced thus far by Saab is marketing hype, and nothing substantive.
While prasoon you are right that such an indeginious dharmic code of conduct should be the overarching grand narrative. Not sure how long it will take to happen.
Mr.Prasun
I know you are for Jai Bharat but I was asking Ashish.
Thanks
Raj
To DASHU: It is now emerging that Russia played the pivotal role in pressurising China to go on the backfoot. With Russia publicly stating that 45 PLAGF soldiers had perished on June 15 last year, there was no way China could deny this. But what surprised China very much was that it has been Russia that has now published the PLAGF casualty figures. And Russia had good reasons for doing this, since Moscow has since 2011 been in favour of both China & India jointly delineating the LAC as a unitary line on the map. And the reason for this was that this would enable Russia to formally make India a member-state of the Eurasian Customs Union & under its auspices Russia, through Central Asia, would begin laying oil & gas pipelines destined for India, but through Aksai Chin. Even Kazakhstan had for long been demanding this. But China's refusal to delineate a unitary LAC had pissed off both Russia & the Central Asian Republics, and matters had reached such a stage that these countries had threatened to openly raise this issue with China within the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), which would have resulted in a severe loss of face for Beijing. Thus, as we can now see, Russia had the ultimate leverage over China & it has in pursuance of its own national interests now piled up enormous pressure over China to relent & behave responsibly. After all, Russia would never tolerate a China having the cake & eating it as well via its BRI/CPEC investments while denying Russia & the Central Asian Republics the full benefits of the Eurasian Customs Union.
That also explains why the Indian MEA's Foreign Secretary was despatched to Russia for finalising plans for India formally becoming a member of the Eurasian Customs Union & also operationalising the Vladivostok-Chennai maritime corridor. The relevant treaties relating to these will be inked during the future Summit-level meeting between the Russian President & Indian PM in future.
Prasun Da,
Why two names for a single missile.Helina (Army Version) and Dhruvastra (Air Force Version)
https://twitter.com/DRDO_India/status/1362675400929800193
Nothing of that sort. HeliNa is HELI-copter fired NAg ATGM, DhruvAstra is the launcher fitted on the Rudra - a Weapon System Integrated Dhruv ALH WSI. Though some will say the DhruvAstra is a longer range variant of HeliNa, but that wud be the SANT
Prasunda
With SAAB meeting and exceeding almost every timeline on the Gripen there is no reason to not trust them with their word on the naval variant. Anyways deliveries to India will commence long after selection and milestone driven payment schedules can be drawn out
Offtopic here's something interesting that I felt I should share
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/the-true-origins-indias-military-strategy-14010
Prasun da
When will GSAT-32 launch and what would be it's function.
Thank you
Looks like both IAF and Army variants of Helina were tested on Rudra. When do you think orders will come? And how many do our forces need?
I have realised that if Prasun can be called Prasoon and Sir can be spelt SAAR and be excused by Sri PKS then Toyota's Landcruiser too can be Indianised and called LUNDcruiser - after all You tube now has channels teaching Lund chusne ka tarikha!
These are the 2 videos released by China yesterday on the June 15, 2020 clash in the Galwan River-Valley:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHV86ZqA8QY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7kx40EwOJc
It is clear from the above that personnel from the 2 armies were not carrying any small-arms, which contradicts the statement made by India's EAM last June.
https://www.dailypioneer.com/2015/columnists/the-man-who-brought-tawang-under-india.html
To SUSAN: Not 2 different names, but 2 different projects. HELINA is the ATGM’s name, while DHRUVASTRA is the complete weapon system, inclusive of the ATGM, fire-control system, target acquisition sensor & weapon-launch system.
To CHANAKYA CHATTERJEE: Development of carrier-based platforms is a wholly different ballgame. Saab will be reqd to invest in not only an aircraft carrier with ski-ramp, but also a shore-based STOBAR test facility. Where will Saab obtain these from? Hence, development of a carrier-based variant of the Gripen is a practical impossibility, kindly rest assured.
To PRAKSH: No launch-dates have been announced by ISRO to date. It will perform the same roles as those of GSAT-6A, which are listed here:
https://www.isro.gov.in/Spacecraft/gsat-6a
hI Prasun
how does a MAWS on a fighter detect a incomming missile when its rocket motor has finished its burn time like an amraam or CCM or a sam for that matter .
After all all MAWS are IR or uv based , and with no exhaust plume there is no signature to detect ?
I met up with a serving WNG CO who flies the su -30mki and he was very pessimistic about the r-77 about its range and reliability. He was quite enthusiastic about the desi astra! your views pse.
what is china trying to prove by showing pics now about galwan and dead soldiers ? Is there any way the chines public can know about the figures released buy the US and russia.will they fall for this?
Do you see china retrainaing its forces for better climate adaptibility like the way indian soldiers are aclimatised. what would happen if there was no pull back ie casulaities due to pulmonary edema , frostbite and psycho problems
how did our spoldiers fare .?
what is this rudram 1 ,2 ,3 etc thatthe drdo official are talking about . was there any NGARM missile exhibited?
Hello Prasunda,
Good day,
LT have done a great job of delvering 100 SPH within the planned schedule. How many more K9 Vajra would you say the IA will order? Also any truth in a tank being developed from the K9 Chassis? What gun would they use abd how many regiments does the IA intend to form.
Thank you snd best wishes always.
If they are even shortlisted then can use the test facilities developed for the lca navy.
That will save them money and give india a greater participation in its development
I see it as an opportunity and not a hindrance
Prasun sir
Excellent talk from 2012 from John Mershemeier
https://youtu.be/CXov7MkgPB4
I think he was right on many accounts but I want to ask you about it.
1)How will Russia become a part of the balancing coalition against China?
2)He talked about India-Japan cooperation increasing to contain China but even 8 years later we don't have something substantial with Japanese in Defence and Security?
3)India and China depend heavily on Middle East Oil so they will get involved there a lot. So can our Bonhomie with the Saudis and Emirates be seen in this context?
4)But where are the Chinese getting involved for securing their interests in Middle East?
5)How will China's Malacca dilemma be solved as the U.S Navy controls the oceans and the Indian Navy is a partner for if required interdicting or harrassing Chinese vessels(civilian or military)?
Thank you
Sanjay
dear prasun da,
will the lch or dhruv will have an top mounted radar on them in the future like apache. will helina come in quadpack configuration as opposed hellfire missile despite both bein same size and weight. how would you rate both missiles
To RAD: LoLz! If the rocket-motor’s fuel propellant already burns out, then what will propel the missile forward? Will the missile be able to glide forward or will gravity pull the missile downward? In that case, will the missile pose any threat to any aerial target? Both R-77 & Astra-1 BVRAAMs fired at any aerial target that does not possess any MAWS or RWR or ASPJ (like F-7P & F-7PG) will be extremely lethal. In any case, the R-77s procured in the previous decade already need to be replaced with Astra-1 & hence the ineffectiveness of R-77s in the present day is a non-issue. In China the internet firewalls ensure that only domestically-generated news is read by China’s population. Only those Chinese citizens residing abroad at any given time are therefore exposed to news reports of non-China origin. Hence the bulk of China’s population will be fed only with news reports that are doctored & distorted by the State, as in the following 2 videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfDDfBbnuPI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cw2pWd3Sqc
And even if China succeeds in coming up with better habitability technologies reqd for high-altitude sustenance, the PLA’s system of military conscription will ensure that its human resource quality remains inferior in terms of both training & proficiency. And hence the PLA continues to generate propaganda videos like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcKqwt2fL2U
Rudram-1 was already explained here:
http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2020/10/160km-range-rudram-1-ng-arm-test-fired.html
Rudram-2/3 will all be follow-on variants of the NG-ARM, but optimised for use by the IA & IN.
To KANE1966: That depends on whether or not the IA will procure motorised 155mm/52-cal MGS in future. If not, then procurement of additional K-9 Vajra tracked SPHs becomes a possibility. But converting a K-9’s hull into one meant for a light tank is an impossibility because the hull of a tracked SPH is not optimised for resisting hits by APFSDS or HESH rounds. Hence, an all-new hull design is reqd. Then there is the issue of designing & developing a turret that can be adapted to this all-new hull. If this is done, then this will result in an all-new hull & all-new turret design, i.e. designing a light tank from scratch. Hence, there is neither any value nor logic in any offer to modify the K-9’s existing hull to become part of any light tank—which the ‘desi patrakaars’ haven’t bothered to look into prior to engaging in nonsensical speculation.
To SANJAY: 1) Russia has always been part of a balancing coalition against China by supplying advanced weaponry to countries like Myanmar & Vietnam since the previous decade itself. 2) Not quite, since Japan has steadily increased its industrial investments in Russia’s Far East, especially in Khabarovsk & Vladivostok. 3) The Middle East is far more dependent on India for both skilled human resources & food security—which China will never be able to provide. 4) Not in the Middle East, but in Africa. 5) It won’t be solved, period. That’s why China wants a land corridor as an alternative & that’s where the CPEC & Gwadar Port comes into the picture.
To CHANAKYA CHATTERJEE: What you are suggesting is the byproduct of non-application of intellect, i.e. flights of fancy. For instance, if India were to provide all such facilities to SAAB, then why not go for the LCA (N) Mk.1 or Mk.2 in the very first place. Why should India subsidise SAAB’s R & D efforts when ADA & HAL have already already almost developed a similar product in the form of the LCA (N) Mk.1? Furthermore, making the SBTF available to SAAB will in turn deny the IN the use of the SBTF for training its pilots. Thus India will be the nett loser in both financial & operational terms. Hence, you proposition will benefit only SAAB, not the IN. Secondly, you ought to read the DPP documentation that clearly states the rules & regulations about competitive evaluations, i.e. will it be fair competition if OEMs like Boeing & Dassault Aviation are invited to bid with readymade solutions while SAAB is allowed to compete only with a paper design? Lastly, the IN has made it abundantly clear that it wants a twin-engined TEDBF & hence no single-engined MRCA offer will be entertained.
Prasunda
Interesting article - the Company & Concept has been in the news before too. Combined Cycle Engines as well as regular engines made high supersonic. What are trade-offs
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a33547925/hypersonic-air-force-one-combined-cycle-engine/?
To KAUSTAV: VMT. And here is an interesting documentary on Rare-Earth Elements:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88jpgxSRVZU
Why China 'Domesticated' Jack Maa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkjsnkBYhE8&t=7s
Interesting revelations by Prof Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjFVPDbYSwY&t=5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmXOws2okUk&t=3s
"No fear from India" through AQK's mouth tells India's deterrence capacity. Chullu bhara pani mein dubmarna chahiye GoI ko.
Prasunda
I differ with your analysis because of the following
One has only to see the gripens development cycle with regard to timelines and compare it to the lca and see why partnering with SAAB makes sense. This is only with regard to getting a product ready on time
Regards the product itself, let's compare the already flying Gripen e with the lca foc version on all aspects from range to weaponry to radar to irst and isn't it obvious that they aren't comparable products
The Gripen is far superior on all aspects
Thirdly is our objective to grant a level playing field to pitching companies or to see how we get the best possible solution for our needs ...
And regards twin engine, the navy clearly is being careful after the crashing mig 29s and looking at engine redundancy for safety.
Comparing the gripens safety record that shouldn't be an issue, esp as its use in Brazil demonstrates it's safety in tropical climates also
To CHANAKYA CHATTERJEE: Several factors determine the developmental timelines of MRCAs, one of them being indigenisation. SAAB never intended to indigenise the Gripen & hence even today, at best only 30% of the Gripen has indigenous Swedish content, despite being superior in military-industrial terms to India, which on the other hand had to first build-up the industrial eco-system reqd for both developing & producing the end-product—a time-consuming process. Consequently, compared to SAAB, the ADA/HAL combine has developed the end-products much faster & also with an impeccable flight-safety record, compared to the Gripen’s fatalities during its development. And as I had explained earlier, no navalised variant of Gripen ever existed & today, the LCA (Navy) Mk.1 is far superior to anything that SAAB can come up with. Finally, operating from on-shore air bases & from aircraft carriers are opposite ends of the spectrum & hence one cannot ASSUME that the flight-safety record while operating from on-shore bases will be replicated when operating from aircraft carriers. Hence, opting for the Gripen was, is & will always be a no-brainer for the IN or any other navy.
To DASHU: 16 बिहार रेजिमेंट के कैप्टन: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzS3sX27jQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YtKgy_Ji94
Solar-Heated Desi Ladakh Tent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTd145fSFaE
Disturbing truth is coming out bit by bit. Next 4 years will be v tough geopolitically
https://thedisinfolab.org/the-un-ending-war-from-proxy-war-to-info-war-against-india/
Libtard-jihadi NGOs have been given free reign post Trump.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-toolkit-greta-thunberg-tried-to-hide/
https://twitter.com/kashmiriRefuge/status/1361976828563390473
Disha Ravi gets 8,00,000 USD "angel investment" from mysterious shadow company.
This NGO strategy was planned out in advance a la Benghazi by Madam Clinton...
http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/obama-quietly-reverses-hillarys-get-modi-policy
Prasun,
1- Is Russia now trying to sell arms to pakis?given the surge in procurement of indigenous products in by india .. is there an Russia- China-Paki-iran alignment happening? read the russians were trying to sell talwar(1156) class frigate to pakis or hinting at it
2- any truth in the rumour that India pulled out late from the russia-iran-china war games in persian gulf?
3- you had mentioned that the whole chinese aggression in ladakh was about pakistan taking over POK .. has that happened? the pakistan wud have been tom-toming about it had it happened-my take, if not, how has the dynamics changed now that the chinese have withdrawn for now equating to a retreat -atleast tactically
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