The maiden test-firing of the DRDO-developed, 40km-range Akash-NG E-SHORADS was the culmination of a six-year R & D effort that had begun in 2014 to fulfil an Indian Air Force-specific requirement for a quick-reaction E-SHORADS that not only satisfied the IAF’s demand for a smaller deployment footprint area-wise, but also had a far-longer and cheaper service-life.
Consequently, as sound
common-sense would demand, it was decided at the outset that the
command-n-control and fire-control systems of the Akash-NG would be almost
identical to those of the QR-SAM. In addition, a cannisterised missile (like the
30km-range QR-SAM) was specified, since the existing Akash-1 and Akash-1S
missiles have to be stored separately in pressurised missile-containers and
consequently have to be loaded and unloaded before and after use. This in turn
reduced the service-life of the Akash-1 and Akash-1S missiles.
While the 28km-range Akash-1
and Akash-1S missiles being stored in pressurised containers is acceptable to
the Indian Army (since the Army-specific Akash-1/Akash-1S E-SHORADS are
deployed only during exercises or wartime), the IAF preferred to have cannister-encased
missiles in ready-to-fire configuration (like the Barak-8 MR-SAM and Barak-8ER
LR-SAM) since the IAF’s Akash-NG Squadrons are required to provide 24/7 and
year-round air-defence coverage and hence the usage of fully exposed
Akash-1/Akash-1S missiles becomes maintenance-heavy and costly to maintain in
serviceable condition.
Each Akash-NG Squadron will include the ADTCR acting as the medium-power radar (derived from the Arudhra MPR’s design), the BSR and the BMFR—an arrangement similar to that adopted for the QR-SAM.
The Ku-band ‘Netra’ active radar
seeker and RF-based proximity fuze for Akash-NG has been designed and developed
by the DRDO’s Hyderabad-based Research Centre Imarat (RCI), while
series-production will be undertaken by the KALYANI Group.
From the above, one can safely
infer that for the Indian Army’s E-SHORADS requirement, the QR-SAM will be the
definitiove solutipon, for the IAF’s corresponding SL-QRM requirement, the
Akash-NG will be the preferred choice and will in future join the existing imported
RAFAEL-supplied SpyDer-MR QR-SAM/SL-QRM units.
The MR-SAM requirements of both the Indian Army and Indian Air Force will be met by the Barak-8, while the LR-SAM requirement of the latter will be met by the Barak-8ER. The XR-SAM now under development by the DRDO will be joining the five imported S-400 Squadrons in future.
157 comments:
Hi prasun
The NG version seems to have been inspired by the classic sparrow design whose aerodynamics as been proven mant=y times ove r. dont you think we can make a AAM out of this or a smaller anti radiation missile? with many variants.
can it also intercept cruise missiles? given the long range ?
what are the other modification can be done.? is it bigger than the amraam.?
Prasun,
Regards!As usual an excellent presentation!Please enlighten us on the proposed Air Defense configuration when the S 400 will enter service!Heartiest congratulations on our Republic day!
Happy Republic day Prasun.
Is Akash NG , QRSAM and proposed XRSAM 100% indigenous?
To RAD: The diameter of the Akash-NG’s airframe is minimally lesser than that of Akash-1, the only difference being doing away with the 4 ramjet air-intakes. Hence, the Akash-NG’s airframe will be quite heavy for any AAM. ARMs are reqd to have longer ranges hence the Akash-NG’s airframe will be a misfit. The Akash-NG can intercept cruise missiles just like the QR-SAM can, but PROVIDED the BMFR & BSR can acquire such targets since the BMFR makes use of X-band active phased-array radars. Here are some more slides:
RCI-developed Seekers, Including One with Active Phased-Array Radar:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EskAZjeVoAA1Ks-?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Missile on Foreground is NG-ARM while the Yellow-coloured one is PRALAY SS-BSM:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsWfCjyUYAUABiL?format=jpg&name=medium
Pinaka MBRL’s Automated Rocket Production Plant of OFB:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c35HnAWhTds
Jaguar IM at CARNIC: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsjUd3WVoAAwvml?format=jpg&name=large
Upgraded ZSU-23-4 Schilka:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsbIuROVoAc518H?format=jpg&name=medium
To THEINDIAN: The S-400 will be in a standalone configuration as both a BMD interceptor & an anti-AEW & CS airspace denial weapon. But the Akash-NG will be used for protecting the S-400 Flights from standoff air-launched PGMs.
To VED: 100% indigenous in terms of design conceptualisation and R & D, but the material content will have some imported hardware.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/why-china-building-border-walls-with-vietnam-myanmar/13068344
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIXXBXgv50k
Russia’s GPS-Spoofing Capabilities:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/566ef8b4d8af107232d5358a/t/5c99488beb39314c45e782da/1553549492554/Above+Us+Only+Stars.pdf
0) Any lessons to learn from historical Dogra and Gurkha battles with Chinkis? Even Bakhtiyar Khilji tried to invade Tibet through the Chumbi Valley. From reading them, it seems like we will have initial successes but Chinese will launch a massive counter-mobilization if we're too successful. Hope these lessons translates to the strategy makers.
1) If Chinese are bluffing, why not deploy the mountain divisions to take Baltistan? Two regular divisions can face China. Anyways, India needs closer to five or six mountain divisions.
2) Anantha Krishnan interviewed ADA chiefs... why is chief saying AMCA is 5.5 gen when it will be worse than f-35? KAI KF-X are realistic in acknowledging that their platform is 4++ gen along with Su-57.
https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2019/10/01/socialAffairs/Koreas-biggest-domestic-weapons-project-takes-off/3068551.html
3) Is there a Pinaka guided rocket in the pipeline? Are Pinakas deployed in Ladakh+Sikkim?
4) UAE signed a deal for 50 F-35. Only way for india to get real 5+ gen fighters before 2050 is BAE Tempest program. How much workshare will India get if it joins now? It will be a good deal if India gets 20-30% workshare along with source code sovereignty. Unlike Junk-20, it will be the real gamechanger unless Frenchies give us FCAS carrot.
5) Why don't multiple IBG groups have something similar to Iron Dome? India doesn't have C2RAM capability, and this will be a force-multiplier for offensive troops by allowing them to carry out their mission without getting bogged down.
6) Why is BEML still allowed to import foreign TATRA trucks instead of using indigenous TATA trucks?
7) What's the difference between QR-SAM and AKASH-NG?
8) What is universal launcher AD and AD missile? ficci.in/events/22716/ISP/Dr-Bashir-Tata-Power-SED.pdf
Happy republic day Prasun'da .
What happens now to older asksh squd/regiments? IA/IAF wants to upgrade them to akash ng standard or buy new akash ng batteries?
Also prasun da please post something about this new ew system samvijay. I knew about samyukta and himshakti but not this.
Sir Happy Republic day.
1) +1 above could you please explain difference between samyukta, samvijaya and other ew systems?
2) pros and cons of Akash 1s ramjet vs NG dual pulse propulsion?
3) Sir you, in last post you talked about strengthening democratic institutions but here we have media actively getting away with fake news as seen today (without getting into their chinese standoff reportage), Administrative and judiciary intervention in legally passed rule of land. Now todays riot.
How can we do so when internally literally everyone tries to wreck democratic institutions for political mileage?
Opposition, media, courts and NGOs everyone hops in and pulls a reverse card on already barely efficient governance.
4) Failure of internal security yet again, as you said battle is lost when such a mob has already successfully assembled. True.
But wouldn't you say, and also related to point 3, that it could sometimes be impossible as we have TWO state CM's egging on and permitting such assembly for politics plus opposition in general milking it?
Similarly the rioters themselves are hell bent and salivating at prospects of projecting this as Sikh riot, khalistan victory, hindu vs sikh, government oppression of the sikh and what not.
I recommend quick purchases of those sound and heat emitting riot control trucks and extra hiring of RAF etc.
5) Your take on now proven interference in sovereign state matters by social media giants?
It is now proven plus moghuls are on record stating they can extra constitutionally going to censor and ban selectively all the while promoting selective trends, crushing unsuited narratives and doxing accounts to influence informantion flow/election.
Poland has already brought out laws and Europe has serious data security laws. We are sleeping.
6) Erdogan. How the hell is he doing such a better job of regional destabilization and interefering in larger countries including ours.
He is even now patching pseudo union of turkic ethnicities and we can't do that even with Nepal let alone SE Asia.
These countries manage to punch above their weight and succeed too.
We cannot even protect internally upon demographic change (Andhra, WB being latest), retain actual history (still JNU expert dominated) and large hostile populations against idea of India.
We rarely get to see victory strategic and moral victories. Turks do it better.
Prasun Da, as usual a timely thread with pool of information, thanks for it.
And Happy 72nd Republic day for you and everyone here Dada.
BTW
a. What's your opinion about involvement of Pakistani funded SFJ in mayhem orchestrated in the name of protest in Delhi,
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.oneindia.com/amphtml/india/the-khalistan-infiltration-what-we-are-witnessing-in-delhi-is-exactly-what-sjf-planned-3207673.html
b. As for DRDO mock up model of PRALAY SS BSM, when we can expect it's test-firing ?
Dear Prasun,
Can DRDO show the efficacy of Akash NG by targeting SAAW PGM? Don't you think that it's good way you carry out tests? Please share your views.
Sir,
Am totally baffled and cannot fathom why Govt of India bowing down to farmers of ONLY A FEW states? What happened today is just beyond explanation. Who is funding them?
What center is thinking? Why restrain Delhi police to charge? Footage of police personnel jumping and running to save themselves is just unacceptable.
I think GoI is clearly demoralized now after repeatedly getting beaten by paki and Chini simultaneously.
Modi's end started it seems. At least Mr loud mouths Doval and Shah should resign now.
But again that is Incredible India for us.
Prasunda
When you speak about Pralay being the Indian conventional missile against China then my question remains unanswered.
Pralay has a range of less than 500 kms ... Brahmos extended range and nirbhay have much more range ...
China's df 17/26 and many other conventional weapons can strike deep inside India. Pls don't say our planners think that India can use Rafales, sukhois can strike deep inside China with their very well developed air defense then we are lost.
Why can't we arm a few hundred Agni 4/5 for the role of striking deep inside China only when they do?
Prasuda,
1) Is the samvijay a new EW system ?
2) Do we possess any jamming systems as powerful as Russia's Krasukha-4 ?
Satyaki
Prasun sir some question about SAMs
1) Akash NG is basically an extended range version of QRSAM? Why did IAF not go for QRSAM instead of developing a new missile?
2) Akash 2 is Akash NG, or is it a different missile?
3) When will the new Akash NG enter into service?
4) Barak-8 ER will be operational with all three services, or only the IAF?
5) What is the max range of basic Barak-8, 70 or 90 KM?
To NOMORECHICOMS: 0 & 1) It’s simple. The restructuring & rebalancing of the IA & IAF was begun too late over the past 5 years, when work on it should have commenced by 2004. 2) That’s because even the RoK has been denied some eight critical technologies (out of the original list of 120 reqd for the fabrication of a Gen-5 MRCA airframe. 3) Yes & it was explained several times before. 4) The Tempest is now being developed as a Gen-6 MRCA. 5) Perhaps because the DRDO too is trying to develop a ‘desi’ version of Iron Dome. 6) Because the MoD wants to preserve all its DPSUs, not just BEML. 7) The engagement envelopes are different. The IAF is more interested in protecting vulnerable areas (VA) whereas the IA wants to protect vulnerable points (VP). 8) That’s for the AAD-1 endo-atmospheric BMD interceptor missile. The TEL will also be used for the XR-SAM.
To SARATHI97: Existing Akash-1 Sqns & Regiments will be procuring the Akash-1S missiles, whereas the Akash-NG being IAF-specific will be used for the air-defence of air bases & vulnerable areas housing the IA’s ammo storage depots & POL-storage logistics hubs. The QR-SAMs of the IA will be used for providing air-defence cover for the IA’s Pivot & Strike Corps formations.
To VSJ: 1) Samvijay is the latest upgraded version of Samyukta. 2) That does not matter. What matters most is the cannisterised configuration that enables Akash-NG to be deployed for far longer periods on standby-mode, which is not possible with Akash-1/Akash-1S. 3 & 4) The failure of internal security processes & methodologies yesterday was due to the dysfunctional nature of enacted legislations. Be it Shaheen Bagh or the farmers’ protests, these all have to be called CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE. They cannot be equated with PROTESTS in a democratic environment. Hence, the Constitution of India of 1950-vintage needs to be synchronised with the country’s criminal procedure code of 1861-vintage. Only that will ensure that India is governed, instead of being ruled. 5) An existing ‘idea’ can only be neutralised by an opposing ‘idea’. 6) Because all the countries surrounding Syria are in a far more despicable state of existence.
To SUMANTA NAG: VMT. 1) Conspiracy theories apart, had the Govt of India from the very outset treated both the Shaheen Bagh sit-ins & Farmers’ Protests as acts of civil disobedience & had taken active countermeasures, then the losses of life & property could have been curtailed. Instead, by disingenuously labelling such acts as expressions of democratic dissent, the executive branch of the Govt of India has over the past 2 years failed to deliver on its portion of the social contract that it enjoys with the citizens of India. 2) It will be flight-tested anytime now.
To ASD: LoLz! The SAAW is a gliding PGM without the ability to make any kind of agile aerodynamic manoeuvres. The Banshee targey-drone on the other hand can do so. So which kind of target will I prefer to engage in order to gauge’s the Akash-NG’s interception effectiveness?
To DASHU: This has been going on for decades because there’s been no distinct line drawn between CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE & VISIBLE DEMOCRATIC DISSENT. The failure of internal security processes & methodologies yesterday was due to the dysfunctional nature of enacted legislations. Be it Shaheen Bagh or the farmers’ protests, these all have to be called CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE. They cannot be equated with PROTESTS in a democratic environment. Hence, the Constitution of India of 1950-vintage needs to be synchronised with the country’s criminal procedure code of 1861-vintage. Only that will ensure that India is governed, instead of being ruled.
To CHANAKYA CHATTERJEE: The scenario of China’s TBMs, IRBMs & MRBMsz striking deep inside India is an illusion & an impracticality. For, the longer the range, the greater the CEP. Hence any conventionally armed IRBM or MRBM will have a CEP of 2km at its extreme range. Hence, the most prolific BMs in the PLARF’s inventory are the SRBMs that will be used only for targetting locations/installations located close to the LAC, and not cities.
To SATYAKI: 1) Samvijay is the latest upgraded version of Samyukta. 2 Yes.
To PRATAP: 1) The Akash-NG being IAF-specific will be used for the air-defence of air bases & vulnerable areas housing the IA’s ammo storage depots & POL-storage logistics hubs. The QR-SAMs of the IA will be used for providing air-defence cover for the IA’s Pivot & Strike Corps formations. 2) Both are one & the same. 3) By late 2023. 4) Only IAF. 5) It can go up to 90km but its effective range is 70km.
@Prasunda
Thank you.
Would like to know of the following
1. Have the Tactical Nuclear Weapons been operationalized yet by the SFC?
2. We have a fairly good understanding of our Air-Defence efforts and the requirements of the Services. Where will the VL-SRSAM fit into all of this?
3. And coming to BMD, it's been long since we got to know much about AD-1, AD-2 and PDV. What will be their application and what has been their progress?
4. And finally, with a nuclear-capable China breathing down our necks, and a survivable nuclear deterrent 15 years away, when can we expect the Agni-6 with MIRVs to be tested and subsequently inducted?
Thanks.
Abs
Prasunda,
VMT.
1) Does the Samvijay system incorporate such jammers as capable as the Krasukha 4?
2) No long range ballistic missile test by us for a long time. Any this year ?
Satyaki
@prasun da
a little birdie tells
1. US iching to impose CAATSA on India once S400 delivery starts (bad)
2. India planning to boost SFF numbers to 15000 (good)
3. as compensation of S400 buy/lease B1 bombers (ugly)
4. US has got hands on S300 system ((how)
5. US wants India to grab PoK asa (when)
6. US wants India to fight in Tibet and help Uighurs (why)
7. IN hay order 3 more scopene subs and later equip all with AIP, later for 9 SSNs (where is money)
8. US navy retiring may ships prematurely in 2021, IN may buy some (should it?)
9. Israeli MOSSAD has made Manali outskirts its fiefdom from where Israeli drug mafia who are hinding from interpol work in tow with MOSSAD to smuggle Malana weed (worlds best) and uses proceeds to fund illegal ops (could be true)
thanks
Joydeep Ghosh
Mr. Prasun
https://youtu.be/54Y57Zf--6Y
What is this?BMFR
Dear Sir,
1)How?
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/indian-forces-to-get-local-choppers-even-before-formal-contract/articleshow/80469643.cms?utm_source%3Dtwitter_web%26utm_medium%3Dsocial%26utm_campaign%3Dsocialsharebuttons
2)There are news in media TejasMK2 fly by 2024 of true.Then induction after 2030?
Dear sir,
Instead of building new ships why can't the Indian Navy acquire these 6yr old decommissioned USN Littoral Combat Ships.
https://youtu.be/CQi7khyZHtI
Sir,
5, 6, 7, 8, 9 are Indian wet dreams of what an assertive strong nation with smart logical thinking government should be capable of & not end up with PRC on borders. Yes I include the weed part too of Pt.9.
The previous ones are just common place news, don't matter
To ANWAY: Formal contract for 15 LCH LSP-series helicopters was inked long ago. But before being handed over to the IAF (10 units) & IA (five units), they should have been fully weaponised & equipped with EW self-protection suite. 2) The following videoclips offer some pointers:
MWF: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G30L78MSdQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWxiQ9Pmxi0&t=57s
TEDBF: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRG3JocmTKo&t=80s
The MWF, whose maiden flight as per ADA’s claims will be in 2024 (following a rollout in August 2022), will be built to LSP standards in Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) configuration. A total of four LSP-series MWFs are planned for construction and these will be subjected to a total of 2,000 hours of certification-related flight-tests. Series-production of 201 MWFs for equipping 12 IAF squadrons will begin in 2028 as per ADA’s prediction, and each MWF will have an empty weight of 7.7 tonnes, weapons-load of 6.5 tonnes, internal fuel capacity of 3.3 tonnes and MTOW of 17.5 tonnes. Powerplant will be a single 98kN-thrust F414-GE-INS6 turbofan. Preliminary Design Review was completed by late April 2020 (PDR) anxd the design configuration was subsequently frozen. Classic delta-wing design was adopted for the detailed design phase, thereby doing away with the existing wing-design of Tejas Mk.1/Mk.1A variants. Range of SCALP ALCM is given as 570km.
ADA received “informal requirements” for the TEDBF from the IN “very early in 2020”. The formal operational requirements were given by the IN in May, after which the ADA worked out two configurations for the TEDBF programme—Delta-Canard and Trapezoidal with Tail. PSQR (Preliminary Staff Qualitative Requirements) have yet to be released by the IN. Delta-Canard configuration of the TEDBF will undergo low-speed wind tunnel tests soon. The TEDBF, which will weigh around 23 tonnes (including a 9-tonne weapons payload), will be larger than the 13.5 tonne Tejas Mk.1 and the 17.5-tonne MWF. It will have folding-wings. The TEDBF is planned for rollout by 2026. The displayed scale-model, however, shows it as a hybrid design by adopting a faceted nose-section like that of AMCA, followed by a frontal section featuring MiG-29-type extended wing-roots, followed by the canards located well aft of the cockpit (unlike those on the MWF), and classic delta-wings like those of the MWF. Its 23-tonne MTOW is inferior to that of the MiG-29K MTOW: (24.5 tonnes), F/A-18E/F Super Hornet (29.937 tonnes) & Rafale-M: (24.5 tonnes). This by itself will make the TEDBF inferior when compared to existing carrier-based M-MRCAs.
Hi Prasun,
1. The IAF seems pretty serious about the AMCA. Where will HAL carry out the tests to validate the Very Low Observable profile of the A/C?
2. The GISAT constellation of SATs is the SBIRS equivalent and will provide the BMEWS cues required. What additional benefits/capabilities would India gain from the US through the BECA?
3. Will the SARs based RISATS be used for obtaining pre-launch target coordinates for weapons, besides reconnaissance and surveillance?
4. Has the R&D with Israel to launch small Sats before the start of hostilities for providing BMEWS, Targeting Data and ISTAR reached fruition?
5. It would be wise to build our own SOSUS network. Your thoughts?
6.What is the primary difference between the S-400 that will be delivered to us and the one that is being acquired by PLAAF?
7. Will the eventual XR-SAM feature conical airframe hypersonic missiles?
8. S-400 has a range of 300-400 KM, considering the system will be placed at a considerable distance inland (150-200kM?), how does it become a candidate in shooting down lumbering hostile AEW&CS platforms which will, in turn, fly 300-400 KM away in hostile aerospace?
Regards,
Prakash
Prasunda,
VMT. Is'nt the very long hiatus in testing long range BMs likely to lead to reliablity and QC problems on that front?
Satyaki
Prasunda,
Many of ours smaller warships are without proper Surface to air missile ! Can't we integrate Akash NG to these smaller warships ? ( Example Kamorta class )
Best regards
To ABS: 1) Of course. That was done in the previous decade itself, but integration with Prahar SS-BSM was done in the previous decade & that’s why at DEFEXPO-2020 that SS-BSM was shown at the TATA Pavilion.2) The SR-SAM is the SHORADS for the IN, while the QR-SAM is for the IA & the LL-QRM is for the IAF. 3) Those projects are still underway, albeit at a slower pace after the IAF opted for the S-400 LR-SAM. 4) That will happen only towards the latter half of this decade.
To SATYAKI: 1) It will be improper to compare the 2 systems as they are meant for completely different battlefields. 2) This year only further test-flights of the Nirbhay LACM will be undertaken, while those of Pralay will commence. In terms of priority, these two are are the very top.
To HARISH: No. All elements of the Akash-1 & Pinaka use BEML-TATRA trucks, while Ashok Leyland truck are used by QR-SAM, Dhanush-45, ATAGS & 122mm MBRLs. Hence, that vehicle is a component of one of those three, in all probability mounting the BMFR.
To GOVIND: Because while with LCS may be relatively new & be more technologically advanced, they will pose a logistical nightmare when it comes to maintenance. Hence, to keep life-cycle costs low, it is far better to have new-build warships that have a far higher degree of equipment commonality with existing IN warships.
To YOGESH: here’s all one needs to know about the state of Police Reforms in India:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0kg1dQ8LVQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50SFP8kwhQo
To JOYDEEP GHOSH: Another ‘birdie’ has told me this:
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/army-eyes-tibetology-to-checkmate-china/articleshow/80489811.cms
This is a huge blunder because Tibetology is just one component of the far more holistic subject on HIMALAYAN BUDDHISM. Here are some pointers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr-trLDoqXI
Instead, ARTRAC should mandate that this book be read by all those interested in Tibetan affairs:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71eLyBwBf8L.jpg
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/book-re
@Prasunda
Many Thanks.
So that explains the secrecy and ambiguity around Prahaar between 2014-15 to now.
This gives Prahaar strategic dimensions, why would a strategic missile system be displayed and exhibited in Defexpo'20? What am I missing?
Abs
Sir,
E2D Hawkeye copy?
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3119636/chinas-new-kj-600-surveillance-aircraft-completes-latest-test
Prasun da
any good documentary about we 2 or Vietnam or Korea classic give link.
Abhinav
Prasunda,
Is the Prahar already in service for deliverring TNWs if need be ?
Kritavarma
To PRAKASH: Such RCS measurements will be undertaken by the DRDO at its RCS measurement range. The IAF may well be serious, but is not being realistic in its expectations. How can ADA consurrently undertake the detailed design work of the MWF, TEDBF & AMCA Mk.1? It’s impossible. 2) Exchange of intelligence inputs, like real-time tracking data concerning PLAN submarines in the IOR area. 3) Only for fixed/static hostile sites/installations. For persistent 24/7 non-stop ISR, HALE-UAVs & JSTARS-type battlespace surveillance platforms are reqd. 4) Such work is being done totally locally in India, involving some start-ups for which ISRO will do some hand-holding. 5) Seabed installation work has already begun in that arena. 6) The IAF’s S-400s will have endo-atmospheric BMD interceptor missiles using Ka-band active seekers for terminal guidance. The PLAAF has been denied such LR-SAMs. 7) It should, but whether or not it will remains to be seen. 8) If the target detection/engagement radars are sited on the foothills of Jammu or even in Kashmir Valley, then it can attack AEW & CS platforms flying over Pakistan’s KPK province.
To SATYAKI: Not at all. Instead, the additional time gained is being used for instituting further refinements & fine-tuning.
To PARTHASARATHI: Why develop a navalised Akash-NG when the Barak-8 is already available? Being of modular architecture, the Barak-8 can easily go on board the existing Project 28 ASW corvettes.
To ABS: Prahar SS-BSM isn’t a strategic weapon at all. Instead, it is a wepon for self-defence that can be used as a first-strike weapon inside one’s own soil if the enemy launches a pre-emptive conventional attack aimed at capturing Indian territory, like what had transpired at Longewala in December 1971. This is permitted even by the UN Charter, which authorises all countries to use any & all means for one’s self-defence but without undertaking any aggressive military actions beyond one’s own soil.
To ANWAY: Yes.
To KRITAVARMA: Yes.
To KAUSTAV: The latest US appreciation of PLAN’s capabilities & capacities:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20465947/china-naval-modernization-implications-for-us-navy-capabilities-background-and-issues-for-congress-jan-27-2021.pdf
Then there’s this appreciation by China’s external intelligence-gathering agency, the Ministry of State Security (which as expected paints China as the aggrieved party):
http://www.cicir.ac.cn/UpFiles/file/20201103/6373999766705249491072987.pdf
The starting point: incidents in the Galwan Valley were accidental and caused by the reclessness of India's commanding officers--they name Colonel Babu. But "there is necessity in accidents", and a deeper cause: India's "forward policy" towards the border.
The authors see a continuous Indian policy of "salami slicing" at the border despite India's defeat in the 1962 war. They accuse India of having crossed the line of actual control 1581 times in 2019, 94% of which on the western sector of the LAC.
They argue that India had an interest to cause an incident in the Galwan Valley because of the Chinese military activities against the Darbuk/Shyok/Daulat Beg Oldie road, which commands India's military access to the Siachen glacier--so highly strategic.
Hu and Wang generalize these observation to argue that the root cause of the clashes is an illusory "quest for absolute security" by the Indian side.
But there are other factors. One is the "influence of conservative politics". Under Modi, conservative forces have squeezed the living space of the liberal elites among diplomatic and business circles. The authors also see the clashes as a diversion tactic for the Indian government, in times of huge governance challenges - they even call the Galwan conflict a "life-saving straw to divert attention"
"Make in India" has not been successful so far, the share of the industrial sector in India's GDP is hovering around 15%, its lowest point in 50 years. Desinicisation is an opportunity but it can only be selective given the dependence of India's industry on Chinese supplies.
They then make an argument regarding the co-existence of two great powers rising at the same time and their competition for regional dominance. Coexistence between China and India is particularly hard to achieve because after WW-2, one newly born country has sought to negate the colonial order, while the other is the successor of the colonial order.
The current international environment is favourable to India. The confrontation between the US and China has resulted in a sharp rise of India's strategic value in the eyes of the US and the West. PM Modi is failing to turn this into an engine of "national rejuvenation". But this has fueled a tough foreign policy towards China. By contrast, China's security environment has severely deteriorated with the rise of an anti-China united front, policies to restructure supply chains and an anti-globalization movement that undermines China's economy.
Cont'd below...
This contrast reminds the authors of the 1959-1962 international environment. China was trapped by internal disasters and international setbacks (the Sino-Soviet split, crisis with the US). With good relations with both superpowers, India was able to challenge China at the border. China was only able to reverse this dire situation because it could exploit the moment of the Cuba missile crisis. The state of the border is a "vivid reflection of great power geopolitics".
They conclude with the pessimistic assessment that China-India relations have entered a period of high volatility. The alternative would be to change course and return to "win-win cooperation" but they don't offer specific ideas regarding how that could be achieved. Confrontation takes place in a period of deep change in the international order, and thus the stakes could not be higher. The authors argue that China and India risk missing their strategic opportunity to return to historical glory. And just for the incredible image (!!): if the mouths of the population of the two countries could combine in a single one, they would form a bottomless pit with a surface of140 to 150 sq km.
On the other hand, this is an extremely poor & non-factual assessment:
Hot Summer On The LAC? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqL6YBD0MAo
Firstly, not Mongol soldiers, but soldiers from Xinjiang's Tajik communities are serving with the PLAGF in Aksai Chin (which were mischieviously shown as Pakistan SSG soldiers by the 'desi patrakaars' last year). Secondly, the PLAGF is highly perturbed by the IA's increasing mechanised accretions in Ladakh & Sikkim because the PLAGF has enormous respect for Russia-origin MBTs & ICVs & that's precisely why the PLAGF has never sent its latest ZTZ-99A MBTs for an exercise or tournament in Russia over the years. Furthermore, the ZTZ-96 MBTs don't have integrated powerpacks & hence tend to seize up quicker. The only advantages the PLAGF enjoys are in the arena of comms due to their extensive fibre-optic networks along the LAC, and their inventory of HALE-UAVs that gives the PLAGF 24/7 persistent ISR feedbacks. Any invasion of Arunachal Pradesh is ruled out because all the approaches are through valleys alongside rivers/rivulets & are hence highly vulnerable to artillery fire-assaults from the IA perched at dominating heights. The same situation prevails all along the Chumbi Valley. Hence, no more close-contact battles at the infantry-level will be given by the IA, unlike what had happened in 1962. The PLAGF, on the other hand, is placing heavy reliance on flamethrowers for bunker-assault operations.
And, as I had explained earlier, How China & Pakistan Ganged Up to Secure GB:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZpwuEtPi8&t=11s
whoever followed you know this fact that securing the GB and then taking over GB is the Chini plan and then annexing Laddakh. Game over. Sadly GoI is still giving lectures on how to rebuild the broken relationship and sticking to the term LAC as if Chini really cares for it(feeling from recent EaM's lecture some days back).
Hello Prasun,
Regarding the fibre optic cables installed by Hans in Aksai chin and other occupied areas; the honest! people of DMK in Tamilnadu devised an ingenious way to damage and destroy the Asaru cables (state government installed optic cables for cable TV). Just puncture the cables with a needle at multiple locations; the throughput and performance with tend towards zero. No need to completely cut the cables; puncturing it will lead to enormous time and energy to identify the leak and would render the whole area's connectivity useless.
Thanks,
Ganesh
Prasunda,
1) How did the prahar enter service after only 2 tests (2011 and 2018)? Is it because it is a repurposed AAD ?
2) What happens to the single warhead A-5 shown in Dr. Saraswat's slides? It has had 7 tests, all successful. Should'nt it be inducted given that the A-6 even if flight tested next year can only be inducted in 2026-27 at the earliest ?
Satyaki
Akash NG seems to have been derived from Barak 8 MRSAM, with Israeli components replaced by Indian ones. This seems to be the only reasonable justification for developing it when MRSAM already exists. You don't really need a missile between Barak 8 (area defense) and QRSAM (point defense). This seems to be a peculiar Indian habit of inventing intermediate categories that don't make sense. Like medium fighters to fit between LCA and heavy Su-30 when most large air forces only need just one or two types (F16/F15), (Mig29/Su-27).
PS: one visible difference that I can spot in Akash NG is absence of thrust vectoring module at the missile end which is present in both QRSAM and MRSAM.
Mr.Prasun
So the Chinese have started talking about the period before 1962 and accusing us of salami slicing which they themselves have engaged in.
They are preparing for war even Mr.Pravin Sawhney is talking about war after 5 years but earlier he was saying that it will be after 3 year.
Are the Chinese dumb do they think they can teach us a lesson or maybe in the next 5 years we might attack POK and the Chinese may get involved.
Do you think a war after a paki terror attack and our response POK is possible with Chinese involvement?
Thank you
sanjay
That was an interesting video from VICE on kashmir & PoK. The kashmiri's whose relatives had been killed and injured by Pak firing still seemed to blame India as much as Pakistan. Infact there were very neutral. Whereas the people in PoK seemed to be ultra-nationalists. What is going on? Have we completely lost the support of the people there. If so how do we gain it back? The level of development going on in the PoK seems impressive.
Ram
Dear Prasun,
Everytime you have highlighted the incompetence of GoI. Now look at the case of Reliance Future deal which is jeopardized due to the meddling if Amazon. Even the successive GoI couldn't do anything concrete for foreign investment policy. Now it's under ED lens for foreign policy violation. May you share your views upon this? I'm sceptical about foreign investment in India. You can recall that recently GoI lost also arbitration against Cairn energy worth 1.2 billion dollars. Really disgusting!!!!
@Prasunda
Very Many Thanks.
Further, it would be awesome to hear from you regarding
1. How long will it take for the IAF/TACDE to evolve air-combat tactics, operational doctrines related to Rafale and imbibe it as part of their OP-PLAN, So that during the eventuality of war the aerial platform can be utilized to its fullest?
2. What are the advantages of adopting a JASSM/SCALP-ER-like airframe for cruise missiles? Why are we not developing one?
3. Kindly suggest books or reading materials to understand the origins and evolution of Military-Industrial Complexes in the USA, Soviet Union/Russia and China.
4. https://www.opindia.com/2021/01/eam-s-jaishankar-india-china-ladakh-unsc-cpec-pakistan-bilateral-relations-asia/
The Indian government is giving a very long rope to China. That should explain the insistence on going back to status quo and an open door invitation towards the agreements signed so far. But it doesn't quite address the issue of India not patrolling and exercising administrative control over its claimed territories, and consequently, China seizing the land up for grabs. This is a golden opportunity for India to undo all the wrongs and increase her claim lines, possibly cross-over the LAC and occupy some China real-estate.
Abs
Sir,
https://theprint.in/opinion/indias-defence-needs-money-if-budget-cant-provide-it-we-need-to-change-how-we-fight/593651/?utm_source=izooto&utm_medium=push_notification&utm_campaign=ThePrint&#click=https://t.co/tRuKxxuNXL
What is the current status of Htt40 ? are we placing orders or is it wasted efforts ?
Prasun da,
1) Is TEDBF being developed because F-18 Super Hornet and Rafale cannot operate from INS Vikramaditya and INS Vikrant? Because I see no other reason as to why anyone would develop a new aircraft to fulfill the requirement of 50-60 jets. This could also ve the reason for ut being lighter than Rafale and F-18. What do you think?
2) Where is the MMRCA 2.0 heading? Now reports are coming that France has offered 36 F4 standard jets in fly away condition with the rest being assembled in India. Is this how it's going to be?
3) According to media reports, US has got it's hands on Russian Pantsir air defense system. Should Russia be concerned?
4) Will IA place additional orders for K-9 Vajra, or are they satisfied with just 100 guns?
5) Any forward movement on acquisition ofChina specific Kalyani truck mounted ULH and the other heavier mounted gun for Pakistan border?
6) Did the experience and technological know-how gained by working with Israel on Barak-8 helped India in the fast development and testing QRSAM and Akash-2? Or is it just a coincidence that it happened after the development of Barak-8? Surely there's a link here
7) Extended question, is XRSAM based on David's Sling? Is there any Israeli help involved in it's development? When will it start testing?
To DASHU: Here he is again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj_ig_gn8h0
Now that the CICIR paper is available to one & all, no sane individual individual should be under any illusion. That paper finally reveals that China never desired or wanted to make peace with India & hence the 1954 Panchsheel Agreement had a validity period of only 8 years (when all such international agreements expire only after 100 years). So, if India’s then leadership was taken for a royal ride, nothing much has changed today since today’s Indian leadership still invokes the spirit of Panchsheel, i.e. they are still in cuckooland.world of make-belief. How else can one explain India ssurrendering her rights over Kailash Mansarovar back in 1954?
To GANESH: LoLz! Do you really think the PLAGF has left such fibre-optic cables fully exposed above the surface? And if they are buried, then how can one start punchuring them? Lastly, how will one physically enter China-controlled territory for digging out & punchuring holes within such cables? Back in 1991 even the British SAS prowling throughout western Iraq was unsuccessful in detecting the buried Iraqi fibre-optic cable network.
To SATYAKI: 1) Yes, the AAD’s R & D work began way back in 1996. Prahar is just a re-engineered AAD. 2) A minimum number of Agni-5s have already been service-inducted, although the number is quite small, i.e. no more than 12.
To SANJAY: CVhina’s offensive against India is emerging from multiple fronts, not just the military front. This explanation by P Stobdan explains it all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr-trLDoqXI
Therefore, the greatest mistake will be to focus only on military threats.
To RAM: LoLz! The first resident of Uri who was interviewed never blamed India. He only narrated how the cross-LoC ceasefire violations take place. And those from PoK who were interviewed were not the local inhabitants, but Pakistani settlers. So, what you’re implying (that only the IA targets civilian hamlets/settlements across the LoC) is WISHFUL THINKING. All the pro-Pakistani sloganeering was by supporters of the PTI party (again mostly settlers from KPK & Punjab) & not one Kashmiri politician hailing from PoK was interviewed. Nor did anyone say anything praiseworthy about any development inside PoK. In fact, the COVID-19 pandemic is creating havoc inside PoK inclusive of Gilgit-Baltistan. So, it is always FAKE NEWS that emanates from PoK from time to time & manages to convince folks like you that India is losing it while Pakistan is gaining ground. Should you wish to know what the reality is, then do go through the following as articulated by a Pakistani:
http://southasiajournal.net/book-review-between-the-great-divide-a-journey-into-pakistan-administered-kashmir/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7mkdf4zbdo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akO16rfgnnQ
And also, kindly be truthful & honourable by giving up trying to hide behind an assumed non-Muslim identity, since the framing of your comment was a dead giveaway. For, if you don’t then you will never be able to achieve moral ascendancy via competitive benchmarking. In fact, such deliberate obfuscation of factoids/ground realities is the very reason no one buys Pakistan’s narratives anymore. For instance, just because of an analysis by EU DISINFORMATION LAB, Pakistani officialdom BLINDLY ASSUMED that the various websites mentioned in the analysis were also fake & were spreading false news, when in reality, all those websites are still functioning & have factually true news content. In other words, Pakistani officialdom WRONGLY ASSUMED that the operative word in the narrative would be DISINFORMATION that would subdue everything else. But as we all know, this has not happened.
To ASD: All these regularly in the corporate world & are usually resolved through out-of-court settlements. Therefore, there’s nothing to worry about.
To 3rd-EYE: Unless & until CEMILAC issues the certification of airworthiness for the HTT-40 BTT, no one will order it.
To ABS: 1) It will take at least 2 years to finalise the tactics of using Rafales in combination with Su-30MKIs & another 2 years for the tactics to percolate down to the various IAF combat squadrons. 2) Such LACMs are used for tactical strike operations & require turbofans or turbojets for propulsion. As the GTRE is still in the process of perfecting the turbofan required for powering the Nirbhay cruise missile, it will take some time to find other applications like a ‘desi SCALP’. Then there’s the politics among OEMs, for instance BrahMos Aerospace would like to see its BrahMos-A & BrahMos-NG getting priority R & D funding instead of ADE. 3) There are several monographs available in PDF format & you can easily seek Google’s help to acquire their weblinks. 4) All that India needs to do is quote the 1959-1960 border negotiations between the 2 countries, during which China only put oral claims forward without any documentation to back-up their claims, whereas India produced all the supporting documentation & even offered to refer the case to the ICJ in The Hague. But China refused to approach the ICJ because it knew that India would win the case hands-down. India had made public all details of the negotiations back in 1961 & here they are:
http://www.archieve.claudearpi.net/maintenance/uploaded_pics/1960BorderTalksbetweenIndiaChina.pdf
http://www.archieve.claudearpi.net/maintenance/uploaded_pics/OR_Part_1.pdf
http://www.archieve.claudearpi.net/maintenance/uploaded_pics/OR_Part_2.pdf
http://www.archieve.claudearpi.net/maintenance/uploaded_pics/OR_Part_3.pdf
http://www.archieve.claudearpi.net/maintenance/uploaded_pics/OR_Part_4.pdf
http://www.archieve.claudearpi.net/maintenance/uploaded_pics/ORC_01-32_Part1.pdf
http://www.archieve.claudearpi.net/maintenance/uploaded_pics/ORC_33-57_Part2.pdf
http://www.archieve.claudearpi.net/maintenance/uploaded_pics/ORC_58-75_Part3.pdf
http://lib.unipune.ac.in:8080/xmlui/bitstream/handle/123456789/5845/09_chapter%203.pdf?sequence=9&isAllowed=y
To SATYA: 1) TEDBF is for the CATOBAR IAC-2, not for INS Vikramaditya or IAC-1. But as you have rightly observed, it is downright UNECONOMICAL to develop a twin-engined naval MRCA whose orders won’t exceed 60 units. If there has been so much haggling about the acquisition costs of the single-engined Tejas Mk.1A, one can only imagine the quantum of haggling over the TEDBF’s acquisition costs. 2) No licenced-assembly of any kind for any Gen-4 M-MRCA, period. Why? Simply because no one has attempted it. Consequently, any additional Gen-4 M-MRCAs will also have to be procured off-the-shelf. 3) Not at all. The US had got hold of S-300P LR-SAM system & 2S6 Tunguska too back in the early 1990s from the former Yugoslavia & East Germany. 4) That depends on whether the IA will continue to insist on procuring motorised 155mm/52-cal MGS, or will the IA give up this reqmt in favour of additional tracked K-9 Vajras. 5) None. 6) It did help, no doubt about it. 7) XR-SAM is a LR-SAM that will possess performance parameters similar to that of the S-400.
https://twitter.com/TejasN_Official/status/1354403912569114624
In this toughly-fought competition, China lost out to India in Afghanistan. But India lost out to South Korea for this contract:
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/01/hhi-delivers-2nd-jose-rizal-class-frigate-to-philippine-navy-ahead-of-schedule/
hi parsun
the barak er pic seems to have samll booster that takes it to 150 km. would it not be easier to make a larger booster and make this into a 400km LRSAM? whats the problem. we can retain the sophiticated israli systems as well and have common radar and datalinks?
Mr.Prasun
48 Agni-5 were ordered.
1)12 delivered?
2) When service will maintain/operate it under SFC?
Thanks
Prasun,
1- can you throw some light on what is fluidic thrust nozzle thatz being touted for UCAV conceptualized by DRDO?
2-what is IAF's obsession with 114 jets,a demand which they keep airing about? it cud just ask for additional @44 rafales for a total of @80 with the rest comming from TEDBF-here again why is the IAF acting traunt by not participating. Add the F15 EX to the circus. wot is the US govt thinking to allow boeing try selling it to the IAf- a financial improbability .. i guess the only thing is that they don't want to be painted as villains holding back boeing given the the dire state which its fighter jet division is in due to lack of large orders.. though additional orders by the USAF itself can bail them out..or that they simply are banking n the shortsighted moronic decision making process that we have
3- on TEDBF , why is the govt even contemplating to go ahead with it(I recollect you too mentioning that it won't happen when it was first mentioned) when the 2nd aircraft carrier plan is not even up for preliminary discussions.. if one goes by wot the CDS has been saying, it will never happen, while the IN chif is all set to order it.Abs zero co-ordination. What changed to get the TEDBF govt funding sanctioned for preliminary design phase? Also why can't the IN opt for the AMCA for IAC2, if ever it fructifies. why has IN not be involved with AMCA? it looks like the IAF is getting back @IN by refusing TEDBF
4- GE 414 EPE.. have read that there is an initial order of @50 such engines for the newer F 18E/F by the USN.. has the engine been developed. how true are the roumers that it may be offered for the TEDBF project
5_ is the OFB Zittara still in production why is it not in use? or is it? esp the 5.56x30mm shud be a perfect gun for the CISF & police
6- Anything new to look fwd to in AERO expo apart from what is already under testing / trails?
7- news on HJT 36 spin test have just gone cold.. is it in trouble .. again?
8- All protests by PDM in pakistan have died down.. looks like its back to BAU
9- What was Ajit doval's visit to Afghanistan about?
10- read that Iran's representative wud also be present @aero expo-a first.. how significant is it . also how will the western OEM's react to it
India’s aeronautical eco-system (contains the PPT presentation by DRDO showing the TEDBF concept):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alg_J7afbPg
To RAD: Simply put, the laws of aerodynamics. The longer the range, the greater the travelling velocity that in turn impacts the structural integrity of the missile's airframe. In the S-400's case, hypersonic cruise speed is used for attaining a longer range, while for Barak-8ER supersonic cruise speed is used.
To RAJ GUPTA: No, only about 45 TELs were ordered bu that does not mean an equal number of Agni-5s were ordered. As the Agni-5 is transported in recessed mode (i.e. in separated stages) a large number of vehicles are reqd for transportation. All launched-launched nuclear warhead-armed SS-BSMs, TBMs, IRBM & ICBMs are operated & maintained by the Indian Army’s Directorate of Artillery’s Missile Groups.
To JUST_CURIOUS: 1) Lolz! They were conceptialised by the late 1980s by NASA. All that NAL (not DRDO) has done is study them & re-engineer the designs. This explains it all, where all pioneering research work has also been quoted:
Fluidic Thrust-Vectoring Nozzle: https://nal-ir.nal.res.in/12145/1/cp191.pdf
2) Without the 114 Rafales, the IAF will not possess any credible deep-strike/interdiction capability, meaning the IAF will not be able to conduct strategic air-strikes deep into the enemy’s hinterland. All Jaguar IS are now kept for tactical interdiction, following the decommissioning of the MiG-23BNs & MiG-27Ms, as I had explained several times earlier. 3) Why? For the very same reason the Govt of India is going for the Airbus Military C-295. It may be recalled that NAL along with HAL had conceptualised the RTA-70 STOL regional turboprop & also a 100-seat jetliner powered by twin turbofans way back in the late 1990s. But the then NDA-1 Govt nixed all such plans & instead settled for the puny SARAS & that too powered by Pratt & Whitney turboprop engines when sound common-sense had then dictated that the Garrett TPE331 turboprop engine be adopted. History then repeated itself yet again when the Pratt & Whitney Canada engines were selected for the Pilatus PC-7 Mk.2 BTTs even when ikt was crystal-clear in the previous decade that the HTT-40 BTT for surely stick to the TPE331 engine. Such stupidity is unfathamoble in the annals of aeronautical engineering history. 4) It will be reqd first & foremost by the MWF, since a 98kN max thrust F414 will clearly not suffice for either the MWF or the AMCA. 5) No, it was rejected. 6) That expo is all set to be the world’s laughing stock at a time when no one in their right mind is even contemplating suxh expos to be held for as long as the pandemic persists. 7) How many spin-tests can HAL carry out at any given time. As it is HAL has fixed a peculiar contraption to the rear of the HTT-40 for housing the parachutes reqd for spin-tests.
hi prasun
the fluidic tvc article was indeed very informative something i was nort awar of thanks .
Is the desi xr sam a variant of the AAD or a new design ?
I have a feeling that russia will hand hold us in the develpment as a counter to china.
will you be attending the aero india show? pse get us nice pics .
will it be thathte MWF and amca will getthe 414epe engine ?
What is the likelihood of CAATSA sanctions on india after Biden admin is settled down?? How soon ??
Mr.Prasun
1)Do we have TELs if not when they will be available?Why we don't have them when Russia China NK Pakistan have?We have TELs or SPT?
2)24 Agni-5 Missiles ordered 12 delivered?Any thread on Agni-5?
3)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7mkdf4zbdo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akO16rfgnnQ
What type of weapon was she talking about which allegedly our troops fired at POK which look like toys to kill children?
Thanks
Raj Gupta
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/truck-mounted-gun-system-howitzer-bofors-indian-army-1340143-2018-09-14
What is the status of this program...
Sir as India has already started to receive F414 with max 98K thurst ..Can this be upgraded to generate more thrust ..To meet MWF or the AMCA ..
Sir what sort of official sanction mayfall upon India..
Sir.. What's going on regarding the torpedoes of Scorpion class submarine
And will 3 more be ordered near future apart from P75I ..
Prasunda,
1) If the Agni-5 is to be transported in disassembled state, what is the point of canisterizing it ?
2) Dose'nt disassembled storage increase the probability that some process such as assembly etc could go wrong/components could turn out to be damaged etc during a crisis ?
3) Given the small numbers, is it not better to take advantage of canisterization and have the assembled missile mated with the warhead and put in the canister, with safeguards in place to ensure that actual launch only happens if need be under appropriate authorization ?
Satyaki
PrasunDa, how many SCALP and Meteor missiles has the Indian Air Force ordered so far?
To RAD: VMT. XR-SAM will be a brand-new design as it will be required to attain hypersonic speeds within the atmosphere. And I have no intention of adding to the miseries of Karnataka or Bengaluru by being present at the Aero India 2021 expo. In any case, nothing new will be showcased this time & even if some of them do sneak through, I can always see them at either the DRDO HQ in delhi or RCI Hyderabad during my regular vists there on official business. Both MWF & AMCA will have to be powered by F414EPE turbofans. BTW, when I meet Dr G Satish Reddy in future I will ask him what he meant by Gen-5.5 MRCA (referring to the AMCA). Does he know something that the rest of the world’s developers of Gen-5/Gen-6 don’t know about?
Here’s an update on TYehas Mk.1 FOC deliveries:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_AnKNLeEU
To AMIT BISWAS: CAATSA can be applied not just on India, but also on other ASEAN member-states that are importers of Ruissia-origin weapons. Hence it won’t be that easy for the US to impose CAATSA regulations on India.
To RAJ GUPTA: You are assuming that TEL’s always contain the entire canister with ready-to-fire missiles. In reality, not quite. Only1/10th of available ICBMs of either Russia or China are always in ready-to-fire mode. The rest of the ICBM arsenals are always kept in recessed states. And that’s because it is impossible for multi-stage BMs to be kept inside cannisters for more than 90 days. Here are examples of how Russia keeps its ICBMs in recessed state:
Missile Base: http://www.ausairpower.net/Google-Earth/TATISCHEVOSUPPORTAREA.jpg
http://www.ausairpower.net/Google-Earth/BARNAULSUPPORTAREA.jpg
Warhead Storage & maintenance Facility: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EscAcAQXYAIIDrO?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Missile Garrison: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsQMbegW4AIb_c-?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsQMc5hW8AUTh4I?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
http://www.ausairpower.net/Google-Earth/BARNAULGARRISONDETAIL.jpg
Only India’s ‘desi patrakaars’ have ASSUMED that once loaded inside a cannister, the Agni-5 ICBMs can roam on roads all over the country for 10 years! 2) There’s no specific thread on Agni-5. 3) Those are the sensor-fuzed sub-munitions carried by Pinaka-1 rockets. Since some of them come equipped with parachutes, they are often mistaken as being toys.
To BUDDHA: 1) Nothing new to reveal at all. Situation remains the same as it was back during DEFEXPO-2020. F414 differs slightly from F414EPE. Only a small number of F414s are with ADA & no large orders were ever placed. Only 4 were ordered & all of them were delivered by 2017 itself. No HWTs have been ordered as yet.
To SATYAKI: 1 & 2 & 3) Kindly refer to my explanation above.
To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: 2 x SCALP LACM & 4 x Meteor BVRAAM per Rafale. And this was the letter found outside the Israeli Embassy on January 29:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtFqEnDXMA057NF?format=jpg&name=large
Prasunda,
The MX peacekeeper, in spite of being silo based, was canisterized and cold launched as well. Did'nt the 50 deployed MX stay operational from 1988-2003 with very high availability nevertheless ? They were certainly not kept in recessed state. So why is'nt the same possible for the Topol-M/Yars and other such BMs ?
Satyaki
Prasunda
It seems from pics that Air-India A320 will be the AEW aircraft to be retrofitted with the Netra AEW system. The rotodome fitted ASWAC is a while away whether on Boeing or Airbus
Certainly, low hanging fruit, but then why just 6. There are certainly more A320 types to spare, like say about 20-21.
So what do think will happen with the Tejas mk2 .. will we see an IOC batch again with the Current 414 and then again a redesign of the inlets for f414 EPE for the "definitive" version of the Tejas mk 2 ?
Why can’t India do a “operation cactus” in Myanmar being in close proximity
Ron
Sir,
The Loyal Wingman for the Rafale?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtHq2A5XMAA8ObU?format=jpg&name=large
Dear Prasun,
Today tai announced in budget in sixth pillar about less government and more governance. I hope you may like it 🤞.
To SATYAKI: Not quite, since the cannisters containing the missiles were replaced from time to time. It is like the loading & unloading of SLBMs in SSBNs. The procedure was followed for the canister-encased MX Peacekeeper ICBMs.
To SATYAKI: yes, that was also confirmed by the IAF’s CAS last month at a webinar. Technology has today advanced to a stage where the long-beam antenna array can operate in 3 distinct modes, as demonstrated by Sweden’s Saab. The array can be used for AEW & C, for battlefield ground surveillance, as well as for maritime surveillance. This is the version bought by the UAE Air Force, the Global Eye. If CABS can develop such arrays offering these 3 modes of operation, then the A320 AEW & CS can be ordered in larger numbers for all 3 armed services as well as the ICGS. But then again, being a narrow-bodied airframe, the A320 without aerial refuelling will have a lesser flight endurance than a wide-bodied B.777 or A330 without aerial refuelling.
To KARNFLAKES: ADA has to get its act together. As of now, I don’t see that happening. For instance, ADA officials continue to refer to the MRCA as the Tejas LCA Mk.2 when it is no longer an LCA, but a heavier & longer MWF. Similarly, the DRDO’s PowerPoint presentation shows the MWF & TEDBF without any aerial refuelling probe. Therefore, in terms of presentation materials itself, ADA has been seen as not yet being able to get its act together. If all 4 of the projected LSP variants of MWF are available for certification-related flight-tests between 2022 & 2024, then FOC status can be achieved by 2027 after logging in 2,000 flight-hours.
To RON: Because no one from Myanmar has requested India to conduct such an operation.
To ANWAY: Not just for the Rafale, but also for the Jaguar IS/DARIN-3, as was shown as an illustration at Aero India-2019. But where’s the elusive turbofan? Unlkess that becomes available, everything else will be fruitless.
Qatar’s Missionary Activities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX0Y2H70Xa8
HMS Ocean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLSFDJ3pFoI
The Arctic Front: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJvIwqq5GjY
Naval Forces in Persian Gulf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B-oYtzEgpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ppAeRf4fys
Launch of PN’s 2nd Type 054AP FFG in Shanghai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8-2n5myIJU
hi prasun
how suitable is the A320 viz a viz the embraer. can embraer supply to pak as we have dumped them?This is going to take of lot of time to certify the a320 by installing the various antennas etc?. it makes sense as we have a large amount of a320s around.how muchmore will the performanc ein all parameters be higher > i believe the next AESA antenna will sport GAN modules?
But what ever happened to the boeng 787 that are lying in delhi?
who is the indian fellow who got a bribe form embarer?
Prasunda
Thanks, ofcourse for the lovely analysis on PRC & the update of AEW. It does seem that these AEW will also have nose mounted sensors whether AESA/ground surveillance SLAR like J-STARs isn't known
Also released pics & models of the TEDBF make it seem as the next step of the evolutionary ladder towards the twin-engine AMCA, in view of nose & air intakes shown.
Maybe it will be like the Mirage-4000 or LCA-N built as TD or to gain more know-how for AMCA rather than a production model.
Sir,
Fake news?
https://t.co/sVXqlAmanp?amp=1
@Prasun da
1. What is the likely difference between the A320 and B777 AEW&CS systems?
2.If both are pursued when is it likely for both the AEW systems to be fielded by the IAF?
3. As per-https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/in-a-first-tata-to-build-military-aircraft-in-india-as-it-acquires-ip-rights/articleshow/80620506.cms
has TASL actually acquired the IP? The chosen platform seems sub-optimal for IAF's ISTAR requirements, but could be useful for NTRO.
4. Will OFB get the rights to own the IP for AK-203 and be able to use it for coming up with better solutions in the future? If not why not go wwith an indigenous alternative?
5. We are losing the race to Vietnam. Can we ever emerge as a global manufacturing hub?
^Ashish
Prasunda
And this article, Why does it take the Tatas TASL to display common sense or drones for the Indian Army to be made by a startup?!
https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/in-a-first-tata-to-build-military-aircraft-in-india-as-it-acquires-ip-rights/amp_articleshow/80620506.cms?s=08
Hello Prasun ji,
Posting here after a long time. How have you been?
Just two things to ask of you this time around:
1) Will you be covering Aero India like you always have? Sure hope you do because there are so many interesting new things being shown this time around, like the Combat Air Teaming System (CATS) being made under HAL-Private collaboration. Would love your detailed reviews of what to expect on that.
2) What do you think about the possibility of war with China in the coming months as the snows melt? It's going to be the CCP's Centenary this July, and given how symbolic the Chinese are, it could be prudent to expect them to try for some kind of limited victory that their domestic propaganda can capitalize on.
And like always, thanks in advance!
To RAD: Everything is possible, provided the customer can pay for it, which is not the case with Pakistan. If CABS owns the IPRs for all the structural modifications reqd for the airframe, then all it has to do is to share them with Airbus Military & the latter will manufacture the modified sections of the airframe & design the related electrical power-supply & environment-control (avionics cooling) systems. This arrangement in turn will reduce the flight-test requirements, resulting in only about 80 flight-hours being reqd to be logged in prior to being awarded the certification of airworthiness. All AESA T/R modules are now made of GaN. Only those of EL/M-2052 AESA-MMR for Jaguar IS/DARIN & Tejas Mk.1A will be made of GaA.
To KAUSTAV: Yes, the A320 AEW & CS will have nose-mounted mechanically-scanning volume-search radar very much like what was done for the P-8I’s rear-section by installing the Telephonics APS-143 search radar. This helps eliminate the blindspots, since the long-beam radar on top can cover only 27- degrees, not 360 degrees. However, for battlefield surveillance, a side-looking radar antenna is preferred since it is reqd for scanning only the hostile battlespace on the ground where 360-degree situational awareness is not reqd. And instead of developing a brand-new TEDBF, would it not be easier & more practical to develop a navalised AMCA Mk.1 whose reinforced landing gear & folding wings will be the only differences when compared with the IAF-specific AMCA Mk.1?
To ANWAY: Not fake news, but it is still early days & as far as battlefield surveillance goes, the name of the game is persistent ISR, meaning the longer the platform stays airborne, the better. The Grob G 180 SPn does not meet this vital reqmt.
To ASHISH: 1 & 2) Simply put, AEW & CS platforms like EMB-145I & A320 do not offer 360-degree situational awareness & are therefore used almost exclusively as early warning platforms to fill in the gaps of airspace surveillance coverage for air-defence operations. On the larger diamond-shaped 360-degree AESA radars on B.777s or A330s fulfil 2 functions: AEW for air-defence; and airborne battle management control, i.e. providing early warning & airspace control cues via SDRs for friendly MRCAs that are inside hostile airspace. Hence, the IAF requires both types of platforms. 3) As far as battlefield surveillance goes, the name of the game is persistent ISR, meaning the longer the platform stays airborne, the better. The Grob G 180 SPn does not meet this vital reqmt. 4) The JV between OFB & the Russian OEM itself means that the IPR will be jointly owned. 5) Not until the taxation & land ownership & insurance laws at the federal-level & state-level are reconciled. Presently, Central & State regulations differ, which causes a lot of confusion, corruption & delays.
To GESSLER: I’m doing great & intend to do so & that’s why I will not be adding to the inevitable confusion & mayhem that one will witness in the days to come at the Aero India expo. Regarding CATS, I had already covered it during the Aero India 2019 expo & here it is:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bN_0WheydJk/XG6SyCuia0I/AAAAAAAAQuQ/I1FXKfBT4f8dDAPiCm_Z1xZcIHc80BWcgCLcBGAs/s1600/HAL-Developed%2BAdvanced%2BCockpit%2BSystem%2Bfor%2BSensor-Fusion%2BDevelopment-1.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-79ZYDDR5maM/XG6SwUjIgpI/AAAAAAAAQuM/3q1BzIFv9OEEWeZs4L6ehyT4jejWXqIIwCLcBGAs/s1600/HAL-Developed%2BAdvanced%2BCockpit%2BSystem%2Bfor%2BSensor-Fusion%2BDevelopment-2.jpg
1) BTW, what HAL is claiming to have developed in-house with the Hawk-I was shown to me way back in 1992 in Singapore when Gulfstream Aerospace had brought in a G-IV bizjet whose flight-controls could be programmed to mimic that of any other commercial airliner. The CATS therefore is not a new phenomenon & has since the 1990s been incorporated in to several LIFT platforms. 2) LoLz! Rest assured that China will never go to any direct military clash with any country, India or anyone else. In fact, the present-day deployment of the PLAGF opposite northern Sikkim is strongly indicative of a defensive posture due to its fears about an IA Divisional offensive being staged from the Sora Funnel & from northeastern Sikkim with the aim of cutting off the Chumbi Valley from the rest of TAR. It is for this reason that the PLAGF’s Tibet Military District has deployed the ZTQ-105 tank & not the heavier ZTZ-99A MBTs that are reqd if one wants to counter the IA’s T-72CIAs & T-90S.
And this is an air-launched battlefield support missile armed with a tactical nuclear warhead, i.e. the air-launched version of the ground-launched conventionally-armed Pralay SS-BSM:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsjzEJjUcAEb-G7?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Given its size, one can safely conclude that its carrier will be the Su-30MKI.
To KAUSTAV: All those mini-drones being exhibited by TATA at Aero India-2021 were originally designed by a Slovenian OEM & TATA only bought their IPRs & built them. They were never developed in-house by TATA. And the optronic sensors of such UAS platforms are from Israel.
Meanwhile, this was aired yesterday:
High-Level Corruption in Bangladesh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6v_levbUN4
hi prsun
why on earth are we getting GAA aesa modules for lca ertc ?rather than the gan ones when israelis far ahead on those lines? whats happening .
is the freq of the desi embraer awacs capable of doing surface search wih MTI or do we have to havve another set of trx array for that purpose?
how hard is it to develop the critical algo for the MTI and other modes etc. Are we capable of doing that ? it seems the only hurdle is the software after which we can have a multi role awacs cum surface search radar like the globla eye?
why are we not talking of a platform like the global eye as swedes have done rather than go in for costly specific jstar and derivatives?.
do the drdo guys like satish reddy listen to your input and suggestions?
why cant we use the 2052 radar on the nose c section of teh a320 awcs? rather than the telephoinics one as i t is more advanced ?
If we were serious about TEDBF , wouldnt it make sence to optimise TEDBF for Airforce as well with better wepons load ?
Prasun Da .. Shouldn't tata have marketed their aircraft as civilian .. considering the fact that short regional routes and airports nare being encouraged ? Or is there something else to it ?
To RAD: Why? because that's what was available back in 2018. All radars can detect anything, but whether they are visible or not on your screen depends on what type of target recognition algorithm is used. That's what MMRs are all about: multiple algorithms being used for multiple modes of operation. EL/M-2052 AESA-MMR on the nose of A320 will be a financial overkill since the AESA-MMR has anything between 18 & 21 modes of operation whereas in an AEW & CS all that the radar is reqd to do is search-n-track, i.e. only 2 modes of operation.
To 3rd-EYE: Yes, but will the IAF wait till 2035 for the TEDBF to be available for series-production? Or will the IAF opt for a more practical solution like the MWF which will build upon all that's been garnered from the LCA project? As it is, HAL is now claiming that the MWF's flight-test programme will last from 2023 till 2025 with just 4 LSP-series prototypes. Frankly, I find this schedule an IMPOSSIBILITY from both technological & aeronautical standpoints. Then the present-day IAF's CAS wants AMCA Mk.1's first prototype to roll out by 2026. And finally, all of these depends on whether ADA & HAL will be able to adhere to the flight-test & certification schedules of the Tejas Mk.1A. Should this schedule get stretched & delayed, the consequent spillover effect will affect the planned developmental schedules of the MWF, AMCA Mk.1, TEDBF & AMCA Mk.2. Hence, folks from the DRDO/ADA & HAL will be well-advised to show some humility & conservatism when publicly uttering the respective developmental timelines, which anyone from other established foreign OEMs will tell you are over-ambitious or even pipe-dreams.
Hence, let us not get taken in by fancy scale-models on show at expos & instead focus on what's really happening in the real world.
Mr.Prasun
1)Was the Armoured Brigade for Sikkim ever raised?
Because from media reports one can conclude that only the Division which you mentioned will be used to attack from Sora Funnel to cutoff Chumbi Valley has only a Mech Company and a tank Squadron?Are these enough?
2)Why no T-90S are deployed in Sikkim?
3)Are Armoured formations in Sikkim and Ladakh equipped with enough Air and Missile Defence to protect them from PLA attack Helicopter,Drones and Missile attacks in their staging Areas?
4)All these Armoured formations are equipped only with towed Artillery and no SPH or Rocket Artillery then how will they fare with in combat with elements of PLAGF Mechanised and Motorised Divisions especially in Ladakh but also in Sikkim?
Thank you
Sanjay
sir whats your opinion about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6v_levbUN4
Bangladesh buying spy equipments from Israel. I dont think this had happened without the involvement of India.
Dear Prasun Sir,
The YouTube video shared by you regarding TEDBF, Mr Vinood Kumar, Project Director, TEDBF on 2:45 onwards saying that there are 2 designs of TEDBF. The 1st is nothing but a modified twin engine MWF and 2nd is trapezoidal wings with tail configuration. Could the second design be Naval AMCA? If yes then someone(was that you) has surely pushed some common sense into their brains.
hi prsun
the turks are now worried thatthe greeks will have a upper hand after the delivery of the rafales with Meteors. they seem to have copied teh amraam and aim 9x missiles on theri own. now how will they integrate it to the f-16? givien the thaw ?. do they have the source codes to the f-16 computer hardware software etc?
i hear that pak pilot are flying the f-16 which is highly appreaciated by erdogan and hence the bonhomie. how did the integrate the anka cruise missile to the f-16?
whu is it so diffcult to take out erdogan ?
- Nepal claiming indian territories
- pakistan loc flare up ( increased cease fire violation)
- https://theprint.in/defence/satellite-catches-chinese-survey-ship-mapping-seabed-in-eastern-indian-ocean/590083/
- https://chanakyaforum.org/myanmar-coup-2021-an-early-warning-sign-for-india/
- https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/abide-by-commitment-says-india-as-sri-lanka-pulls-out-of-east-terminal-of-colombo-port-deal-2361902?pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll
As in the game of GO, PLA & CCP is steadily making moves to surround India .
SL , Burma , Nepal , Pakistan - all are now chinese 20th century colonies
From my perspective the Galwan Incident & chinese Ladakh troop buid up manuever is distractor the real deal is china slowly surronding , increasing internal & external pressure causing india to self explode.
india should take risk withdraw troops from ladakh , open up this front , then it is upto china to make move ....
if china undertakes limited operation then use that opportunity to close all internal fault limes and gather huge diplomatic advantage .
using the diplomatic advantage employ several tactical operations wherever chinese operations are from africa to australia.
To SANJAY: 1 & 2) If you were to go to the thread dealing with the Doklam standoff back in 2017, you will be able to read that the first T-72CIA MBT Regiment was dispatched to Sikkim way back in 2007 & by 2009 another one T-72CIA MBT Regiment & 2 BMP-2 IVB Regiments had also been dispatched there to constitute the Armoured Brigade. Through the Sora Funnel in the Finger Area of northern Sikkim, the surface gradually flows downward into the flat Tibetan plateau & hence one does not require high power-to-weight ratios for MBTs operating there. Hence the T-90S is not required there. 3) The PLAGF has neither deployed any attack drones nor attack helicopters anywhere along the LAC as such assets cannot operate at those altitudes. 4) Rocket Artillery Regiments are deployed by the IA in Ladakh.
To ARPIT KANODIA: I had weblinked that documentary yesterday in my reply to KAUSTAV which it is clearly shown that as far as the end-user certificate goes, it is written there the the IMSY Catcher hardware was sourced from Singapore. Hence, it will be impossible to prove that even if it is Israel-origin, the hardware was physically obtained from Singapore. In reality, Bangladesh routinely obtains advisories from India about procurement of such types of hardware & that’s how various modules of Bangladesh-origin JMB modules hiding in India were uncovered over the past 6 years. The documentary also revealed that all such ‘shady’ characters were given sanctuary in India (mostly within WB), i.e. the folks from R & AW have been doing an outstanding job in cultivating such long-term assets.
To SUDIPTA PATHAK: He was referring to two prospective designs from which the final TEDBF has since emerged & that was the one shown as a scale-model in that video. The IN had 2 years ago itself decided against a navalised variant of the AMCA because it had reasons to believe that the AMCA project was over-ambitious in its final form & hence would never be able to meet its developmental schedules. It was this that prompted a desperate ADA to come up with the ‘desi’ TEDBF proposal, which also is over-ambitious since its developmental timelines directly clashes with those of the IAF-specific MWF & AMCA Mk.1. In my view, the IN has made a judgmental error yet again (the first being not accepting the LCA (Navy) Mk.1 as a LIFT capable of operating from STOBAR aircraft carriers) by asking ADA to deliver the impossible (TEDBF) in the following decade. In terms of R & D costs, platform development & industrial workshare, the development of a navalised/carrier-based AMCA Mk.1 will be far less risky that ADA’s brand-new TEDBF design & hence availability can be expedited. Most importantly, the IN will in future be reqd to deal with hostile platforms like the stealthy Shenyang FC-31, which the Pakistan Air Force will order later this decade. Consequently, procurement of the navalised AMCA Mk.1 then becomes imperative.
To RAD: Those are all rumours. Neither is any PAF pilot flying any F-16 anywhere else other than in Pakistan, nor will Turkey be able to integrate any of its home-grown weapons on its F-16s without US approval.
To VOICEOFTHENEGLECTED: India-Sri Lanka Ties Under Strain?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rtap_Mx4P0
Why the hell should India invest in such transshipment terminals in Colombo when the ADANI group is already building a deep-sea port here:
https://www.adaniports.com/Ports-and-Terminals/Vizhinjam-Port#:~:text=Located%20in%20Vizhinjam%2C%20Kerala%2C%20APSEZ,located%20on%20the%20Indian%20coastline.
Lawyer is caught having SEX with 'a client' during Zoom call court hearing in Peru:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa3TeykPA2A
https://www.aninews.in/news/world/asia/india-pakistan-must-resolve-kashmir-issue-peacefully-gen-bajwa20210202235905/
Prasun,
1-Can you share some updates on DRDO's DAS system, if it is developing it. I recollect you sharing details in your blogs on super sukhoi. not sure if the installation of the same has been started on Su mki's or re we waiting some clearance fro Sukhoi. here is a video for Amca's. wud be great to read if you have any updates on the same
DRDO's Distributed Aperture System (DAS) Ready for AMCA -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e4Y1kIh5cc
2- Is the drdo or any other org working on a EOTS similar to Electro-Optical Targeting System (EOTS) for the F-35 Lightning II ?
3- How much involved are british firms in turkey's TFX programme or any defence programmes in general?
5- Is there any research/prototyping happening on fly-by-light concept. Apparently japan has already implemented it on their kawasaki P1 transport plane. Couldn't a ToT happen for future indigenous programmes
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-55913947
What do you think India’s short term and long term strategy with this country
Ron
Prasunda,
Given that the Pralay SS-BSM weighs 5 tons, is'nt an air launched version of the same impossible for the reason that even the Su-30 cannot carry a single payload of that mass ? On the other hand, a derivateive weighing 2.5 tons or less is feasible. If that air launched SS-BSM is of that type, wo'nt its range be far more than the Pralay ? Just as the Kinzhal (air launched Iskander) has far greater range than the Iskander ?
Satyaki
Sir,
https://twitter.com/Mioplosus_bass/status/1356952576252665859?s=19
hi prasun
bel making trx modules for thales rbe2 aesa rada2 ?? i hope there has been a TOT for it that could help us in a great way .Pse explain the depth of tot etc.
This CATS wing man seems to be a wishful thinking ofpeople that dont know the ampount of tech involved?
Dear Prasun,
If everything is fine with farm law, then what was it put on hold by SC? If protest by farmers is civil disobedience, then democracy is harmed. This is how NDA government is blackmailed. May you please tell whats the right way to tackle the farmer's issue?
Sir, the procurement of 114 multi role fighters for IAF is now expected to be on the track. I see that you always supported the Rafale for this deal. I too support it. But is there any chance that some other contender can be the winner and why?
https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/india/press_release/make-india-bel-delivers-transmitreceive-modules-thales-rafale-rbe2-radar
*any benefits from the above for BEL/India?
https://www.wionews.com/world/china-wants-to-boost-masculinity-of-boys-through-sports-361078
*stunting in our parts & focus on 'masculinity' there could lead to unnbalanced situation down the line. i remember reading about the focus on sports in schools as a result of ethnic concerns/insecurities/fears in the states. not sure if the outcome is directly related or how much, but think we can all agree that they have much better human capital, fitness wise. might be prudent to focus here as well?
A pre-planned conspiracy & international terrorist attack on India. Traitors will be dealt with. Democratic protest is allowed. Violent civil disobedience cannot be allowed & now agenda too is exposed.
Aggregation through dairy co-ops like Amul have proved that even smallest farmers will profit through entry of corporates & privatisation as evident in other sectors of the economy. Even PRC has done this in the 80s. MSPs unsustainable & is responsible for many ills in Punjab.
The following articles are a snapshot of the problems of MSP & the necessity of liberalisation. MSP, subsidies are at root of Punjab’s farm crises but its farmers are fighting to keep them
https://theprint.in/india/punjab-farmers-want-status-quo-on-msp-subsidies-at-the-root-of-agrarian-crisis/580135/
Save Punjab from desertification, move paddy-wheat to UP, Bihar, Bengal — agronomist SS Johl
https://theprint.in/india/governance/save-punjab-from-desertification-move-paddy-wheat-to-up-bihar-bengal-agronomist-ss-johl/587379/
That's how the new farm laws help
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/agriculture/new-farm-laws-impact-reliance-retail-seals-rice-deal-with-karnataka-farmers-to-pay-above-msp/videoshow/80195308.cms
Farm laws have been under discussion since 1991 & more. The constitutionality of the laws can only be decided by the Supreme Court. States not desiring Farm Laws need not implement them. Simple. This is war against India, plain & simple.
#IndiaTogether #IndiaAgainstPropaganda
To BHOUTIK: Peace yes, but on whose terms & conditions? That’s the real devil within the detail. For instance, when almost everyone went ga-ga over Gen Musharraf’s Four-Point Proposal back in 2004, they all ASSUMED that this was a permanent solution, whereas in reality Gen Musharraf had clearly stated that his proposal had a validity of only 15 years after which the Proposal would be subjected to a referendum throughout both J & K and PoK. And as for TRMs, long before licence-building X-band TRMs for OEMs like THALES or IAI/ELTA, BEL was already series-producing TRMs for L-band & S-band radars like Swordfish LRTR, the one on EMB-145I AEW & CS, the Arudhra, Ashwini & other homegrown radars. It has also supplied X-band TRMs for the Uttam AESA-MMR. Astra Microwave too produces both TRMs & antennae.
To JUST_CURIOUS: 1) Had already done that way back in the threads dealing with Aero India 2015 & the IAF’s EW suites. 2) They cannot be installed on Su-30MKI until the Super Su-30MKI project gets underway, because the systems integration will have to be done in Russia by FSUE State Scientific Research Institute of Aviation Systems or GosNIIAS, located in Zhukovsky outside Moscow. And why so? Because the Su-30MKI’s digital databus & systems interface software were all written by GosNIIAS & their source-codes were never shared with anyone, not with India nor with China. Hence, whatever avionics DARE or HAL has developed will have to be sent to GosNIIAS for integration on Russia-owned avionics integration rig. This is something internet fanboys just can’t figure out & hence ASSUME that Uttam AESA-MMR or any China-developed avionics can easily be used by either a Su-30MKI or Su-27SK/J-11/J-14/J-15/J-16. And then wild rumour-mongering begins about China having installed AESA-MMRs on its Su-27SK/J-11/J-14/J-15/J-16. For those who don’t know the finer details, GOST 26765.52-87 and GOST R 52070-2003 are the Soviet and Russian, respectively, equivalents of MIL-STD-1553B databus. While India has access to the NATO-standard MIL-STD-1553B databus, no one in India has access to the GOST 26765.52-87 and GOST R 52070-2003 databus software. 2) BEL claims that it is working on such a system, but for installation on MALE-UAS & HALE-UAS platforms. 3) UK-based firms were involved a lot with Turkish F-16C/D programmes & hence are continuing their industrial partnerships with Turkish OEMs for Gen-5 MRCA as well. 5) FBN involves replacing the electrical cables of FBW systems with fibre-optic cables, i.e. nothing novel.
To SATYAKI: The airborne variant of Pralay weighs just 1.6 tonnes.
To ANWAY: The solitary ZTZ-99A MBT‘s powerpack is being tested there because the powerpacks of the Type-88C & Type 96 MBTs refuse to rev-up on demand & require a few hours of heating. This is because such MBTs, including the ZTZ-99As, do not have the special additives that are reqd to be mixed with both the diesel & other lubricants. On the other hand, the IA has had such additives developed by AVI-OIL INDIA since the early 1990s & hence the IA’s mechanised forces are are superior at the moment when compared to their PLAGF counterparts.
To RAD: LoLz! Long before licence-building X-band TRMs for OEMs like THALES or IAI/ELTA, BEL was already series-producing TRMs for L-band & S-band radars like Swordfish LRTR, the one on EMB-145I AEW & CS, the Arudhra, Ashwini & other homegrown radars. It has also supplied X-band TRMs for the Uttam AESA-MMR. Astra Microwave too produces both TRMs & antennae. But this Aero India-2021 expo has broken a few myths, such as:
1) AESA-MMRs having 1,000+ TRMs. In fact, the ELM-2052 has only 320 TRM elements. And the same is the case with every other AESA-MMR for MRCAs. So finally, the internet fanboys can stop their delusional claims of 1,000+ TRMs for AESA-MMRs.
2) Another delusional assumption has been spreading about Uttam AESA-MMR going on board Su-30MKIs. Such non-Russia AESA-MMRs cannot be installed on Su-30MKI until the Super Su-30MKI project gets underway, because the systems integration will have to be done in Russia by FSUE State Scientific Research Institute of Aviation Systems or GosNIIAS, located in Zhukovsky outside Moscow. And why so? Because the Su-30MKI’s digital databus & systems interface software were all written by GosNIIAS & their source-codes were never shared with anyone, not with India nor with China. Hence, whatever avionics DARE or HAL has developed will have to be sent to GosNIIAS for integration on Russia-owned avionics integration rig. This is something internet fanboys just can’t figure out & hence ASSUME that Uttam AESA-MMR or any China-developed avionics can easily be used by either a Su-30MKI or Su-27SK/J-11/J-14/J-15/J-16. And then wild rumour-mongering begins about China having installed AESA-MMRs on its Su-27SK/J-11/J-14/J-15/J-16. For those who don’t know the finer details, GOST 26765.52-87 and GOST R 52070-2003 are the Soviet and Russian, respectively, equivalents of MIL-STD-1553B databus. While India has access to the NATO-standard MIL-STD-1553B databus, no one in India has access to the GOST 26765.52-87 and GOST R 52070-2003 databus software. That’s why the IAF wisely decided to go for NIIP V Tikhomirov V Scientific Research Institute of Instrument Design JSC’s AESA-MMR option (also on board the Su-57 PMF) for the Super Su-30MKI.
3) The CATS family comprises 2 distinct designs: turbofan-powered CATS WARRIOR loyal wingman & the turbojet-powered CATS HUNTER remote carrier. The former will be a ground-controlled UAS that can be used only for battlefield ISR & as an aerial refuelling tanker. It cannot be autonomous as it is not expandable. Hence, HAL’s depiction of it as a carrier of PGMs is spectacularly outrageous since: A) the IAF does not possess the kind of bombers that can air-launch the CATS WARRIOR. B) such platforms, if remote-controlled by data-links either from the ground or air, will be highly susceptible to jamming inside contested hostile airspace. The expendable CATS HUNTER is far more plausible as a carrier of smaller PGMs like SAAW or turbojet-powered SPICE-250ER since it will be autonomous & its flight-path will be pre-programmed into its navigation system. As an ALCM, it can also carry unitary explosive warheads or EMP-generating warheads out to a distance of 600km & it ill be used for attacking extra-high-value targets like LR-SAM & MR-SAM sites & other highly-defended hostile ground-based installations.
Later this month when I will be visiting the HQs of both DRDO & HAL, I will try & inject some sound common-sense into them so that they understand the operational reqmts for the loyal wingman & remote carrier. After all, fanciful scale-modelling does not translate into operational reality!
To ASD: As I had explained before, even the best of intentions can be misunderstood if the methodology of implementation is totally wrong. This is exactly what has happened with both the CAA & Farm Law issues. It is now evident that the Govt of India did not do its homework & failed to strike a consensus with all other political parties.
To RAJESH MISHRA: I can only read the writing on the wall, which says: CONTINUE PROCURING MORE RAFALES.
DRDO Exhibits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxiWMLbBVyk
CAS Conclave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QPiIP_BZCE
Another 'Desi' Joyrider on Tejas Mk.1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pMGZOnrtL4
Let's see what the other 2 joyriders from NDTV & INDIA TODAY react to the claims of NEWSX!
Serminar on UAS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUnMVLQ8e5E&feature=youtu.be
Seminar on defence-Industrial Corridors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WILCKDU_C5E&feature=youtu.be
Iran’s Defence Minister at AI-2021: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtUhV99VgAAM-Yl?format=jpg&name=medium
TONBO Imaging: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtNowNWVcAANlfN?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtNowNUVkAAe_dE?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Ghaznavi SRBM Test-Fired: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0xniOEpa20
Prasunda,
VMT. Is the LAC likely to heat up again soon ? If so, when ? Could PLA try to break the existing stalemate before mid April ?
Satyaki
Prasun,da 1) As per ANI Indian airforce is going to induct RAMPAGE ALBM. Is that true? or just another desi patrakar
https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1356824541541056512
2) Also why Indian army/airforce never showed any interest in procuring large number of Agni 1 BM's with convetional warheads? if chicoms can use df 15/16/21 with conventional warhead we can use Agni 1/2.
To SATYAKI: Most unlikely, because the PLAGF cannot heat up the LAC in Aksai Chin with just 2 deployed Divisions. In addition, as I had explained earlier, the PLAGF suffers from certain critical equipment deficiencies. So, for propaganda purposes the PLAGF issues such videos of its Combined-Arms Battalions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byUEiFtSFbo
And the PLAGF's campaign plan details are already available with the IA, portions of which you can read here:
http://forceindia.net/feature-report/fighting-sensor-fusion-networks/
And BTW, the PLAN's own in-house medical journal is reporting that 1 in every 5 submariners of the PLAN is suffering from serious psychological disorders due to extended operational patrols being undertaken in the South China Sea over the past 1 year.
To SARATHI97: 1) It is not an ALBM, but an air-launched rocket derived from a MBRL system. And no, the IAF doesn't want it. Why? Because the very same type of air-launched rocket can easily be developed from a Pinaka rocket. 2) Again, as I had explained earlier, only those countries that don't possess advanced deep-strike combat aircraft feel the need for SRBMs & TBMs armed with conventional warheads. Since the IAF possesses adequate nos of deep-strike interdictors that can be used again & again (unlike BMs), what the IAF needs are not TBMs, but air-launched cruise missiles.
To RAD: Here are some videoclips related to AI-2021:
DRDO at AI-2021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i4oRE9s_us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYC-Qrj3aAE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBzCxzAqqHY
(looks like the ADA is least interested in calling a spade a spade & consequently the MWF continues to be WRONGLY referred to as the LCA-AF-Mk.2)
Tejas Mk.1 Promotional Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB-11DqodIY
Aero India 2021 Expo Promotional Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOIVNvylQxo&t=26s
Prasunda,
Will jaguar darin 3 upgrades be able to do terrain masking flights?
Sumeet
Hi prasoon..while the observation is correct that government could not strike any consensus with opposition parties on CAA and farm laws, the fact is getting consensus can work in am atmosphere of rationality and scientific thinking. With the typical mindset of indian political parties, where they say somethng in their political manifesto and do exactly the opposite, getting consensus is simply impossible with these idiots. Infact a democratic form of governance is illsuited for a highly diverse country like india.
Regards
Kunal
Prasunda,
1) When will the air borne variant of Pralay be first tested ? Further, when will it be inducted ?
2) Israel has also come up with a rocks missile that seems to be of this type (a repurposed BMD target missile). The claimed CEP is 3m. Could the airborne Pralay variant also achieve such accuracy ?
3) Has'nt South Korea invested in a large conventional BM force (Hyunmoo-2 series) in spite of an adequate number of strike aircraft ? Also the Hyunmoo-2C with 800 km range (a BM/SS-BSM) has a 1-5 m CEP. Are'nt such weapons an advantage in that they deliver responsive, accurate firepower ?
Satyaki
Mr.Prasun
1)I have read in your blog in 2016 that HAL was acquiring land for licence manufacturing Rafale back then but over the years you have said that licence manufacturing 4 Gen MRCAs is not feasible clear to elaborate?
2)The Chinese on social media keep saying that the T-90S is a heavy tank and their Type-15 is very good but the same Chinese are now getting happy that the PLA has started deploying or testing Type-99 in E. Ladakh because they don't know that no Type-15 is present in Xinjiang or Aksai chin or even in Western Tibet's Ali prefecture I guess?
3)Why was India in your words a status-quo state only till 10 May,1998 what has changed since then?
4)Which systems are being developed under Project Agni-6?
Thank you
Sanjay
3)
To SUMEET: Yes, both terrain-masking & terrain avoidance.
To UNKNOWN/KUNAL: You’re absolutely right.
To SATYAKI: 1) Anytime now. Induction will follow sooner because its navigational & terminal guidance avionics are already in use by other missiles like BrahMos-1 & Prahar. 2) Yes, in fact the CEP will be less than 3 metres when it is equipped with an X-band AESA-based seeker developed by RCI & made by Astra Microwave. Here it is:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aXdH1yD9T_Q/XlnBw6EmifI/AAAAAAAASrk/N-jkV6D3HUExMMpUL7PmJDSm3kW8H7eUwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/AMP.jpg
3) Such terminal guidance seekers can also be used by any conventionally-armed SS-BSM or ALCM or air-launched solid-fuelled land-attack rocket like the Pinaka 214mm rocket.
To SANJAY: 1) The land acquired is being put to other uses now, like expanding the LCA final-assembly line, since licenced-production of Rafale is now no longer a possibility from both technological & industrial terms, as exemplified by the challenges HAL is now facing for increasing the production rate of Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A L-MRCAs. 2) They will soon discover the truth, since most of them are all ill-informed internet fanboys, just like there are many in India who ASSUME that the Uttam AESA-MMR will go on-board the Su-30MKI. 3) Because India refused to become a declared nuclear weapons-state after May 1874, when the whole world was expecting India to become one & had that happened, then India would have been included into the NPT & the NSG by 1982 as a declared nuclear weapons-state. 4) Both ICBM & its SLBM variant.
NMRH Presentation:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8hsLllWy-o&feature=youtu.be
TASL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk1I4Ynxbcs
DRDO Exhibits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eakfeHkfv5Q
Asian Divergence 1950-1991: Why East Asia Surged Ahead of India:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsAVWKSkftI
Solah Shukrbar desi patrakar paisa ko brat jo kare....BTW you typod 1874 instead of 1974 LOL
Loc is now IB officially?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HiM4aYn6Sw
Or they got embolden through chini muscle to grab more area?
To DASHU: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HiM4aYn6Sw&t=1s
According to this assessment, the PA's COAS wants to make peace with India ONLY IF India does not make a big hue & cry about Gilgit-Baltistan & Azad Kashmir permanently becoming the 5th & 6th provinces of Pakistan, i.e. he wants to convert the LoC into a permanent IB. But Pakistan's Foreign Ministry is opposing this & still believes that it can still have the cakle & eat it as well, as evidenced by this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfgaUixIY-M
China's latest & previous TMD interception tests:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTh1t3WXqZg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAH5YW9DWKc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7tYyPRa1T4
Prasun da
In your above response to Satyaki you sounded like saying that our response to PLARF SRBMs or TBMs will be as follows:
a)SS-BSM=Brahmos
b)ALCM=Brahamos A and SCALP-EG
Some questions arise
1)What will happen if PLARF preemptively targets our Missile Bases and airbases which house the above mentioned Missiles and a/c are they protected enough if not by when will they?
2)Will our a/c have to enter deep into enemy airspace to target airbases like Hotan,Ngari and Shigatse ?
3)How can the ground launched Brahmos be a threat when it only has a range of 300-400 km what is the exact range of it?
4)What is the range of Brahmos-A?
5) What will happen if we run out of ALCMs and SS-BSMs does our air force also use LGBs or dumb bombs to target enemy targets deep?
Thank you
aarpee
Hi Prasun
the recently detailed presentation on IMRH showed that it will be 5 bladed and 4000kw ( 2000 kw*2) engine, 13 ton airframe. if we were to compare it with Z-8L which is designed for similar role at high altitude , we find it to be 6 bladed ,4500 kw engine power and 13.5 ton weight( could not get accurate figures for WZ-6C engine).comparing the two we find that although at sea level IMRH is fine, for altitudes of 5000 mtr IMRH looks underpowered. what practical difference does 6 blade vs 5 blade makes in terms of lift produced at high altitude.your opinion?
In both scenarios, ONLY ONE would be a spectacular loser, that is India. But no options for India understandably so better to go with this solution PROVIDED no more terrorism in India guaranteed.
dear sir,
1. cud u tell us whether the russian offered us a version of blyeka or irbis-e for super sukhoi program?
2. can arjun mk1a take at least 600m of RHa at 0 degree?
3. does hal recieve any technology transfer in ka 226t program if approved?
4. has drdo mastered cold launch in submarines for nukes?
thank you
Yogesh
We have not yet completed development and arming the rustom and tapas ... These people are dreaming loyal wingman ... DRDO and HAL with private sector should projects that are already late rather than showing new toy models
Why Make-in-India Has Failed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiNCMEUM6bA
Future Aerospace Power: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxfMAE9KpCQ
China's BMD Test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwfX5CYNBTs
Balochistan Fuel Smuggling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oTlDOjO718
Myanmar Assessment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lumr25JMerQ
Chequered Journey of Tejas LCA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juJDckOcEzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJks0xlssj4
India’s Defence Budget 2021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqaLlv8xCoc
IIT Kanpur’s UAS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JUhJoH5nwI
PHD & MIDHANI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZb-vkk9dSk
BANDHAN Ceremonies for MoUs & Contracts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvX-pbjnmI4
Aero-Engines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY6y6YXHPIg
Convergence of Civil & Defence MRO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9riif4HAU4
Helo India-Indigenous Helicopter Story & Glorious Future:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQViG2zt8L4
IOR Seminar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZKKcWN046M
To AARPEE: 1) And how will the PLA find out where exactly such missiles are held in storage by the IAF? 2) Hotan & Golmud yes. Not Ngari or Shigatse as they are fairly close to Gorakhpur. 3 & 4) BrahMos-A has 550km-range. 5) By that time even the PLA will run out of SRBMs & SS-BSMs.
To HOODS007: The Z-8L homes into the heavyweight category, more like the AW-101. But there are several other parts of that presentation that concern me:
1) It seems HAL is aiming to develop just an Indianised version of the Mi-17V-5. This will translate into a very big mistake since all Mi-17s use a single-channel hydraulic control system, which is acceptable only to the IAF, but not to the IA & IN for obvious flight-safety reasons. In all Western MRHs, a dual-channel hydraulic flight-control system is MANDATORY.
2) If the IMRH will be similar to the Mi-17V-5, then will HAL also opt for the VK-2500 engines? And if decision is made to go for cheaper VK-2500s made in Ukraine, then will Russia object since the design bureau Klimov JSC that developed the VK-2500 sits in Russia? And if HAL opts for the VK-2500, then will the US impose CAATSA sanctions on HAL?
3) Why is HAL content only with FADEC & AFCS, but does not want to develop a fly-by-wire flight-control system for the NMRH?
4) Since the IN will surely opt for a retractable landing gear configuration, it is better therefore that the IA & IAF also specify retractable landing gears. And if that is the case, then the twin sponsoons housing the main landing gear should be lengthened.
5) The IA & IAF must refrain from developing the IMRH as a jack-of-all-trades, i.e. there is simply no need to weaponise the IMRH with stub-wings since both the IA & IAF will by 2028 have more than enough attack helicopters & helicopter-gunships to undertake the tasks of immediate air-support delivery & provision of air-to-ground suppressive fire. Hence, the IA’s & IAF’s IMRHs in utility configuration will always be accompanied by escorting LCHs & AH-64Es.
LUH gets IOC from Camilla- says a newscaster in IDRW. Camilla? I thought it was CEMILAC - Centre for Military Airworthiness & Certification - does this mean another of those blunders not knowing the difference between the butt and but?
To DASHU: The answer to the dilemma lies in what transpired between August & October last year. This seems to be the plausible explanation: Pakistan must have been told by India in vague terms that a solution to the J & K issue was close at hand from India’s side (which according to India meant the conversion of J & K from a state into 2 UTs). Consequently, Pakistan must have assumed that India would probably call for the re-opening of negotiations on Gen. Musharraf’s 4-Point Formula. But Pakistan’s hopes were dashed & it went into total shock after India’s August 5 decision to not only create 2 separate UTs out of J & K, but also how the whole of GB as an integral part of Ladakh UT. As a result, after seeing that international public opinion about the creation of these 2 UTs was either muted or indifferent, Pakistan was left with no other choice but to approach China for assistance in early September. By late September, China had advised Pakistan to grab this opportunity by initiating steps toward the formal & permanent annexation of Azad Kashmir & GB, which in turn would be beneficial for CPEC in the long-term. Once this was agreed upon, Xi Jinping came to Mammalapuram & proposed that the LoC be converted into a permanent IB & that China would act as guarantor to ensure that Pakistan accepted this as well. But India stood firm & refused to play ball, which infuriated Xi Jinping, who then decided to teach India yet another lesson (the first being in 1962) by ensuring that India would be unable to do anything to stop Pakistan’s formal & permanent annexation of Azad Kashmir & GB. And that’s what led to the military standoff along the LAC starting last May. And till this day, India’s armed forces remain committed & forward-deployed to the northern front all along the LAC, with no offensive might to spare either along the WB or the LoC.
To YOGESH: 1) This is what is on offer:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tg9qur4M2iM/W29uzXuxcPI/AAAAAAAAPYI/P2leFt_Czvofu3ASPlbm-ceo8gRQ8P4AwCLcBGAs/s1600/RLSU-30MK%2BNO-11M%2B%2527Bars%2527%2BPESA-MMR-1.jpg
This AESA antenna will be integrated with the rest of the RLSU-30MK radar suite, which is this:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3rUjJdk3QME/W29vkWpkafI/AAAAAAAAPYg/cKxQ8BUE81kFOFxGBifRQOiaskBud0bPwCLcBGAs/s1600/X-Band%2BAESA%2Barray%2Bfor%2BSuper%2BSu-30-MKI.jpg
There was never any need for any other MMR, be it the NO-36 or anything else. 2) What do you mean by 0 degree? 3) Only production-licence for only 60% of the production effort. The rest has to be imported. 4) No.
To SANDEEP: Especially such ‘desi patrakaars’ that never get tired of making the wildest of claims:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T9FVfrwBe0
And no one is asking what has happened to HAL's plan to develop the 'Laghu Shakti' turbofan for such CATS platforms. Nor was this turbofan displayed in any form at the expo. Same goes for all the ATGMs like MPATGM & Amogha-3. Neither the DRDO nor BDL showed the manportable launchers of such ATGMs.
Prasun da, regarding your reply to Dashu w.r.t PoK...what recourse is available to India ?
Is PoK lost to us forever now ? couldn't India foresee such a move by Pak-China when it took decision to abrogate 370 ?
This fiasco about mamallapuram is created non other than 56 inch PM and his super spy doval...they should have identified the real intention of China then and there and disseminate across the top echelons of armed forces and intelligence agencies
The HAL IMRH shown will be inducted not before 2035 & should serve till 2080.
It is an already obsolete design is it not ?
To day we have Boeing Sikorsky Defiant flying.
The EU have unveiled the H160 M cheetah helicopter to enter service by 2035.
Both these incorporate a host of new technologies .
Even ‘traditional’ design helicopters are getting electrical tail rotors.
Regards
Venky
That's a shame. Shame on Modi and co.
That 10 years of UPA govt is a curse for India for sure in terms of defense preparedness. When everyone knew about this 2 simultaneous front threat and still India wasted those 10 years without preparing for today's scenario(in fact every goi is responsible).
But when there is a will there is a way- like you explained many times before how to still salvage the situation just by rearranging assets properly. Hope the current GoI surprises-both Chini and Paki by doing something unthinkable. whatever the end state might be. At least Mr. Modi ought to do something by the next 1-2 months.
And I can curse only :)
Good morning sir.Back after a few days.A few questions:
1)Based on what you have written above,does it mean that India has no military options against Pakistan if/when the so called Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan?I remember you saying last year that if China and Pakistan both attack India,India could hold a defensive posture against China and attack Gilgit-Baltistan.
2)I am not vell wersed about military matters but I remember asking you last year whether the Indian Army should add more divisions or not and I think you told me that there was no need for that and that the Southern and South Western commands were redundant and that they just needed to be re distributed to the Northern Command.In case this is done,will that give the required offensive power against Pakistan?
3)I also remember you talking about the lack of attack helicopters and transport helicopters and transport aircraft(to airlift an entire brigade) last year and about how this needed to be fixed urgently by buying more CH-47s and other helicopters.Your comment above that our military would have enough attack helicopters by 2028 is heartening.But what about transport helicopters?Any forward movement in this area?Any plans to procure more CH-47s?
4)I remember reading reports a few days ago that India might procure 56 C-295s which is a transport aircraft.I did a Google search and saw that the CH-47 could carry 33-55 troops and the C-295 could carry 73 troops.I remember you saying that we needed enough capacity to airlift an entire brigade and since we might purchase 56 of these C-295,that should be enough to get the capacity to airlift an entire brigade right?
5)If we do not procure any more CH-47s and just keep buying 56 or more C-295s,will that also fix the problem or do we need both?Please forgive me if some of these questions are stupid since like I said above,I am not too well versed about these military matters.
LUH get IOC from Indian Army. Didn't it receive IOC last year itself? When is the contract going to be signed?
Why iaf is ok with single channel hyadraulic FCS??
Mr.Prasun
1)Thanks to China a few months ago it was reported that Kalayani 4 was being tested in Ladakh also a WHaP was deployed from transport plane at Leh for testing media reports are coming that they have been ordered or will be ordered soon is it true that M4 APC and WHaP are ready for production?
http://forceindia.net/the-future-is-bright/
2)Looks like the Chinese are not happy with us they have started deploying ZTQ-15 at XINJIANG MD .It seems they read this blog
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_february_2021_global_security_army_industry/chinese_army_xinjiang_military_command_commissions_first_type_15_light_tanks.amp.html
3)http://forceindia.net/feature-report/fighting-sensor-fusion-networks/
What is our preparation and technology for countering these are they superior to our systems and tactics?
Can the Chinese conduct these HAA areas opposite our LAC?
Thank you
Ranveer
Can anyone explain why Narendra Modi who used to look smart with a trimmed beard and hair suddenly has been transformed into Sant Modi? Is that to appease Saffron army by taking on a GURU like appearance? I mean who advised him to wear a santa beard?
How you see the farm laws agitation going.... It seems govt will soon or later to withdraw the laws . A good reform is going to die..Like that will hamper major economic reforms and subsequently Indian economical graph will fail to rise above lower middle class syndrome ...
When Arjun upgraded tank will be ordered..
Naval front seems quiet as there is no buzz of submarine order new or 3 more scorpion class
Has design phase of projected SSN completed ..?
How you see myanmar military take over..Is china playing behind the curtain..
What's your view about the defence ministers conclave in the aero India 2021..
Prasunda,
Sixth Gen -Ahead of time by a decade?! What more technologies are held or patented by the US? They seem to be decades ahead of both Russia & ofcourse PRC.
What is the reason? Technological lead because of being an open country prosperous enough to attract STEM talent for continuous development with cutting edge research in fundamental science & applied technology or is it technology gifted & then adopted or developed for human use. Is catching up ever possible for others?
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/america%E2%80%99s-new-stealth-fighter-years-ahead-schedule-177275
In this context, PRC seems to be well positioned to catch up or is it wishful thinking in their part. To even dream of India ever doing so is ofcourse delusional for now as India seems firmly set on being a RDC with undue emphasis on reinventing the wheel & a sub-optimal one at that!
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/world/asia/china-covid-economy.html
He might have taken an oath like capturing POK or something political. Like Aacharya Chanakya did after he was insulted by King Dhanananda.
To MANISH 2 & DASHU: Recourses are always available, like heating up the Durand Line, which is what is now happening, plus Iran’s IRGC being inspired by India to call Pakistan bluff, as explained here:
IRGC Surgical Strike inside Pakistan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbMD4O3xnb4
Unfortunately, India’s decision-makers placed too much faith in abstractions like the LAC & the 1996 CBMs & ASSUMED that China will honour them, even when it was evident since 2002 that China would be more than willing to unilaterally dump them into the trash-can if it so desired.
Here is an interesting document that is related to this topic:
https://www.institutmontaigne.org/ressources/pdfs/publications/china-trends-8-EN.pdf
To AMIT BISWAS: Not quite, since China’s anger was growing since the early 1990s & its biggest victory came in 1993 when the McMahon & MacDonald-Johnson-Ardagh Lines were junked in favour of an undefined abstraction known as the LAC. In 2002, China, despite its pledge in 1996 to delineate the LAC, refused to do so & by 2007 was claiming that Sikkim’s boundary with TAR wasn’t demarcated & delineated. Even after this, when pacifism continued to prevail in India, China decided to up the ante & that’s what led to the various military standoffs since then. Hence, this present-day Govt of India only inherited all the mistakes made by past Govts of India.
To VENKY: So now let’s wait & see what kind of GSQRs, ASQRs & NSQRs will be forthcoming & whether they would all clamour for advanced technologies that HAL will find it almost impossible to incorporate within a given timeframe.
To ARUN: 1) Options are always available, like the one I’ve outlined above to MANISH 2 & DASHU. But war preparedness for offensive operations or limited high-intensity war can be ruled out for now as the IA & IAF require a fair bit of re-equipping & re-balancing. 2) Yes, absolutely. 3) No forward movement. 4 & 5) Airlifting not by fixed-wing transport aircraft (as that involves paratroopers), but airlifting of air-mobile infantry by CH-47Fs & Mi-17V-5s that can fly close to the ground & avoid hostile air-defences, which airlifters like C-295s won’t be able to for extended periods. In other words, the IA needs to re-embrace the air-assault concept, which it had embraced back in the 1980s by designating the Secunderabad-based 54th Division as an Air-Assault Division, but could not sustain it & it thus had to convert back to being an Infantry Division in the early 1990s.
To SANJEEV: The IOC certification was officially awarded by CEMILAC to HAL & the IA earlier this week endorsed it. Next, HAL is reqd to configure it into mission-ready status by equipping the LUH with a chin-mounted COMPASS optronic sensor turret so that the IA can place initial orders for 20 of them, especially in the CASEVAC configuration.
To MILLARD KEYES: It should have been CEMILAC. As for the PM’s ‘Sant-like’ look, behavioural sciences give us some pointers, i.e. a person who is over-worked due to his involvement in multiple decision-making processes, i.e. the perils of over-centralised decision-making.
To BUDDHA: The Govt of India should have, just like the other laws dealing with labour, CAA etc etc, left it to the states to decide whether or not to implement them & it should have set up an example by enacting such reforms in the states where the BJP had formed the state govts. That’s because nowhere in the world does one size fit all. 118 Arjun Mk.1As will be ordered in the first quarter of this year. There’s just no need to design any SSN since the original design was that of a SSGN. Hence, all that is reqd to be done is to do away with the VLS cells & the SSN design emerges.
To KAUSTAV: The reason is elementary: the US has for several decades has had a culture of investing in ‘Black Budgets’ that are not in the public domain & hence are unknown to many. Secondly, the US immigration policy was framed in such a way so as to keep the population’s age relatively young & productive. But the downside of this has been a decline of the Caucasian populace that by 2040 will become a minority & hence the consequent fears of such insecurity led to Donald trump coming into power 4 years ago. As for advances in technology, if the US wants to, then it can even roll out 7 G cellular comms technology, just as Israel was only now unveilled a turbojet-powered Spice-250ER, which was in existence since 2006. To give you another example, here are some examples of the frontier domains of technology where the US is involved (which Nazi Germany was involved in since the early 1930s):
Understanding Water’s Dynamics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrloc7wlAq0&t=70s
Universe vs Multiverse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Jb802dNCQ&t=142s
Stargate Remote-Viewing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_0_j6WB654&t=103s
Alien Implants: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJqY0veU2q0&t=30s
It has also since emerged that most of the crop-circles found in the US, UK, Russia, Italy & Japan were complex mathematical algorithms that were created very close to centres of mathematical/geometric studies & were in fact accurate predictions of the arrivals of various meteors & the date of their destruction prior to entering our solar system. This was deliberately done in order for the Earth-launched space telescopes to be vectored in particular directions for the sake of recording such celestial events.
Would you find any such topics being the subject of discussions in any forum of the Indian Science Congress? Obviously not, since S & T-related work in India is undertaken with Neolithic efficiency. Hence, you will not come across such common-sensical innovations in India:
Volex ROV by Pliant Energy Systems:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkZszsl2aIU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUhBt-5Ai9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuVjql_D6Pk
China can catch-up, but it will still remain decades behind the US, Europe & even Israel for at least another 80 years. But financial miscle enables China to catch up in industrial terms, i.e. last year alone, Beijing spent a mammoth US$32 billion in buying up all available industrial hardware meant for use in semiconductor foundries. This is meant for satisfying local demand from the military, space & automobile sectors after the US forbid Western, Japanese, South Korean & Taiwanese OEMs from supplying state-of-the-art microchips & their production know-how to China. Israel boasts of 7,500 Phd-holders specialising only in GSM technologies & most of them are veterans of Israeli Military Intelligence Corps’ (AMAN) Unit 8200 specialising in offensive cyber warfare. It was this unti that had penetrated Lebanon’s public telephone/cellular comms infrastructure back in 2006 & had delivered pre-recorded messages to all Lebanese Shiite communities located south of Beirut in which the residents were given 1 hour to evacuate from their homes. Exactly 1 hour later, all such residential complexes were flattened by daylight precision bombing. So, imagine the ‘shock-n-Awe’ effect of such air operations if India could generate a similar warning to the PA about the imminent destruction of Pakistan’s various gated residential complexes of the Defence Housing Authority (DHA), with the IAF then proceeding to do the needful.That will serve as the ultimate example of punitive deterrence.
To ANUP: LoLz! Perhaps he is referring to STFE-type engines. Developing turbofans for MRCAs is possible only in those countries that have OEMs developing & producing both commercial & military turbofans, with the sales of the former subsidising the developmental costs of the latter. That’s why such activities are concentrated in the US, Russia, the UK & France. That’s also why even the likes of Canada, Germany, Japan & China have not been able to develop their own military turbofans. So, anyone who is ASSUMING that India will be able to develop & produce functional military turbofans is indulging in wishful thinking. Unfortunately, there are several in India who indulge in it.
Meanwhile, it appears that due to the on-going pandemic-related restructions inside eastern, northern & central China, AVIC's Chengdu-based CAIC is now getting overloaded with unclaimed J-120 & J-20 MRCAs:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Etea6oSXAAEbh2y?format=jpg&name=large
Xi Jinping at a PLAAF EW Detachment in Guizhou:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWjjtHYlJTw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iErcllYEY2w
PLA-BDR Stone-Markers At Panggong Tso Lake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZhB2qVpHus&t=453s
China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations’ (CICIR) 2021 International Outlook:
"2021 marks the 100th anniversary of the founding of the CCP and the opening year of the 14th Five-Year Plan, in which China will embark on a new journey to build a comprehensive socialist modern state and move towards its second centenary goal. China's diplomacy will be guided by "Xi Jinping Thought on Diplomacy" and is based on three key points:
The first is to lead the international community to jointly address global challenges, uphold multilateralism and promote global governance. 2021 marks the 50th anniversary of China's restoration of its legal seat in the United Nations and the 20th anniversary of its accession to the WTO, and China will uphold the central position and role of the UN in international affairs and support the WTO. China will actively participate in the WHO's COVAX, promote int'l cooperation in the fight against epidemics, and promote the building of a "human health community". China will organise the Kunming World Biodiversity Conference, promote the implementation of the Paris Agreement by the international community, and actively address climate change through energy conservation and emission reduction.
Secondly, actively manage relations between major powers and carry out balanced "multi-polar diplomacy". Deepen China-Russia comprehensive strategic cooperation, strengthen strategic coordination between the two countries in various fields and at various levels; enhance strategic mutual trust between China and Europe, forge consensus on upholding multilateralism, adhering to free trade and addressing climate change, expand pragmatic cooperation in digital, green and other emerging areas, and accelerate the implementation of the CAI. With the new US administration in power, China and the US should plan for a game of "competition", manage their differences and competition, strive to restart dialogue, rebuild mutual cooperation in counter-terrorism and cyber-security, with an emphasis on seeking common ground while reserving differences; China should plan for the "grand triangles" of CN-US-EU and CN-US-RS, as well as the "small triangles" of CN-US-Japan, CN-US-India, and CN-US-UK.
Third, we should plan the trilateral relationship between CN and the US, take a multi-pronged approach to shape our "great periphery", and break the attempts of major powers inside and outside the region to encircle China through the "Indo-Pacific strategy". We should take the 20th anniversary of the establishment of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization as an opportunity to promote the "Shanghai spirit", promote the entry into force of the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement (RCEP) as soon as possible, promote the mutually beneficial cooperation between CN, Japan & ROK, & deepen the construction of the Lancang-Mekong Cooperation Economic Development Belt. The gov should also manage the territorial disputes between CN & its neighbors & properly deal with regional hotspots.
Thanks for the response sir.I like coming back here because I am trying to learn more about these matters and this place provides a lot of information.A few more questions:
1)Air defence systems lessen the burden of planes having to fly defensive sorties.As everyone knows,we currently have a squadron shortage problem that will take a few years to fix.Can having a very good air defence network act as a good stop gap and make us not suffer the consequences of not having having enough squadrons till we solve the squadron shortage problem?
2)Considering the air defence systems that we have and also considering the air defence systems that will be inducted in the future(like the S-400),how many squadrons will be free to focus fully on offensive sorties and how many squadrons will still have to do defensive sorties?
3)In case of a two front war in the future,can we harbour any expectation of the USAF sending some of its jets to do the defensive sorties on our behalf and let us focus fully on offense considering our squadron shortage problem?
4)I have read that S-400 is good against early warning systems like the PAF's SAAB Erieye.How much of a disadvantage will the PAF be put at if/after it's early warning SAAB Erieyes are destroyed?
5)Will our S-400 systems come with the longest range missile(40N6E)?
6)5 S-400s seem to be rather low considering the threats that we face?Is it because India plans to purchase the S-500 when it becomes available?
7)If yes,do you think that Russia will be willing to export the S-500 and it's 77N6?
Prasun,
1- the latest design of mwf/mk2 seems pretty clumsy than the 2019 version esp the wrinkle like design near the cockpit where the canards are placed .. compare this with gripen E/F. is this a hastily done job? they cud made atleast made is more stealthy from the frontal aspect
2- 47kn kaveri engine why wud you want to downrate an exiting 52kn to 47kn ? also why the need to engage safran on the downrated engine design tuning?
3 - there is still no word on jag engine upgrade..
4- HAL pushing for IMRH .. given that the world is moving towards a design with a rear fwd pushing propeller to attaing higher speed why mkt dated design?
5- BDL showcased its own torpedo defence system.. any details on it? how diff is it from varunastra & TAL -- writeup on the same "Garudastra is an advanced anti-submarine self-guided state of the art homing torpedo being designed and developed by NSTL, DRDO with BDL as the development partner."
Prasun, How many Mirage 2000 have been upgraded so far?
https://theprint.in/defence/how-china-is-fast-catching-up-with-the-west-in-the-race-for-air-to-air-missile-superiority/597206/
* how accurate is the above article?
* does supplying TRM by BEL to Thales make financial sense? it also makes it seem that Thales is doing BEL a favor & helping India with AESA technology - at least that's how they will sell it - an unnecessary PR gift at a time when we seem to be holding our own with respect to radars
* EU seems to have developed an inferiority complex / feeling left out. the recent statements about 'independent foreign policy' & making deals with china as if to show it. & china seems to have recognised it & playing on it & massaging it's ego.
To ARUN: 1) It is not an either/or scenario since a comprehensive air-defence system includes SAMs, MRCAs & combat-support elements like AEW & CS platforms & aerial refuelling tankers. And in all 3 arenas, the IAF is suffering from shortages. 2) The IAF requires close to 10 squadrons of deep-strike interdictors, but is now able to mobilise only 2 of them & hence many more Rafale M-MRCAs are reqd along with the Super Su-30MKIs. 3) No, t5hat will be impossible since India is not part of any formal treaty alliance in which the US plays a role. 4, 5 & 6) The thread dealing with the S-400 LR-SAM explains everything.
To JUST_CURIOUS: 1) All the scale-models shown, like that of the MWF, TEDBF & AMCA, represent only conceptual designs & not detailed designs. That’s why there’s no clarity on whether all these will have FBW FCS or fly-by-light FCS. 2) Those again are conceptual in nature & are meant for stealthy UAS platforms like the Ghaatak. 4) What was shown was just a conceptual design & the final shape & form will be known only after the GSQRs, NSQRs & ASQRs are released to HAL. 5) Only fancy names for products already displayed & delivered. Here’s the proof:
https://twitter.com/CMDBDL/status/1357749749047169030
To THEHUNDRED: About 1.5 squadrons, with another 1.5 squadrons to go.
To BHOUTIK: 1) It was always best to go to THE DIRECT SOURCE instead of browsing through SELECTIVE EXTRACTIONS. Here is the DIRECT SOURCE:
https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/CASI/Books/2020-11-%2030%20Air-to-Air%20Missiles%20and%20Guidance%20Systems.pdf?ver=C8qY98R8IETgcweqak0tqA%3d%3d
https://media.defense.gov/2020/Jun/08/2002312001/-1/-1/1/DO_BALASUBRAMANIAM.PDF
2) Sharing of production technology does not mean sharing design-n-development technology. Hence, the former involves THALES supplying the various elements of the T/R modules to BEL which, in turn does the final-assembly & ships it back to THALES. It is thus just an industrial workshare arrangement & no one in HAL gets to know any of the design details of any of the components of the T/R modules.
The total indigenous content of the Ka-226T utility helicopters, to be jointly manufactured locally by India and Russia with Transfer of Technology (ToT), is between 27%-33%, said Chairman & Managing Director of Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) R. Madhavan. The final deal is held up as the Russian proposal of 62% indigenous content in assembled helicopters falls short of the tender requirement of 70%. “In Ka-226T when we talk of 70% indigenous content, it is not the same as the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) 52%. The 70% is of the Russian content. Engine from Safran and avionics from other countries are not accounted for in this. Balance is what we are looking and from there 70% is taken. Taking the whole helicopter, the indigenous content is about 27-33%,” he said. The Russians were unable to offer 70% of this and they offered upto 62%; that too which will come only in Phase-4 of production, he stated. The MoD is also asking for better split of indigenous production from Phase-2 onwards and increasing it to 70% by including more items, Madhavan said, adding that the items are being identified for including in the ToT to bring the indigenous content up to 70%. The Ka-226T is meant to replace the ageing and obsolete Cheetah and Chetak fleet of the Army and Air Force and the total technical life of these will start finishing from 2023 onwards. As per the Russian proposal, the localisation plan would be spread over four phases, beginning with 3.3% indigenisation for 35 helicopters, going up to 15% for next 25 helicopters, 35% for 30 helicopters in Phase 3 and eventually to 62.4% indigenisation in Phase 4 for the last 50 helicopters. The helicopters would be manufactured by a joint venture—India Russia Helicopters Ltd (IRHL) between HAL and Russian Helicopters. In 2015, India and Russia had concluded an Inter-Governmental Agreement (IGA) for at least 200 Ka-226T twin-engined utility helicopters estimated to cost over US$1 billion, with 60 helicopters to be directly imported and the remaining 140 manufactured locally. The first helicopter would be delivered within 36 months from the signing of the contract and order completed in eight years. There is a requirement of around 400 such helicopters and the balance requirement will be met by the indigenous Light Utility helicopter (LUH) developed by HAL, the Army variant of which received its Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) at Aero India on February 5, 2021.
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ka-226t-utility-chopper-has-33-indigenous-content-hal/article33769304.ece
Each LCA (Light Combat Aircraft) Mk.1A would cost ₹306 crore, said HAL Chairman & Managing Director R Madhavan. Giving a break-up of the ₹48,000 crore-deal for 83 LCAs for the Indian Air Force (IAF), he said, “As far as the order is concerned, if you remove the tax part of it, it’s worth about ₹36,000 crore, out of which close to ₹6,000 crore directly goes to Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises (MSME), and as we are supplying ground support equipment and other things, another ₹3,000 crore is expected to go towards Indian partners.” Further, ₹2,200 crore is the exchange rate variation while the Customs and taxes was around ₹7,000 crore, together making around ₹9,000 crore. Also, ₹11,000 crore would be used for ground support equipment, spares and training aids and manuals. “If you remove all this, the total order is about ₹25,000 crore,” Madhavan said. The cost of each LCA Mk.1A was ₹309 crore and the trainer ₹280 crore which, Madhavan said, was a very competitive price. The indigenous content of the aircraft was about 52%. HAL was looking at ways to increase it to 65%.
New Small-Arms from OFB: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIOePMkVUXI
NVD-2021 Seminar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viBvYUs6ob0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUj9j3KvP3c
China’s Undiplomatic Diplomacy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCEjy8Q5e9U
Russian Influence in South Asia:
https://media.defense.gov/2021/Jan/15/2002565542/-1/-1/1/Special%20issue%204-1.PDF
PLAGF’s 8th Motorised Infantry Division & the 11th Combined-Arms Division, of Xinjiang MD Replaced Their 152mm PL-66/Type-66 Towed Howitzers with PCL181 155mm/52-cal MGS and Heavy-Duty Logistics Vehicles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELBx5lrewV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzMAukQuE2I
PLAGF Mi-17 Ops along LAC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss1PPZ2HXi8
PLAGF’s ZTQ-105 MBT for TMD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN98gjuYq9c
To BUDDHA: Remote Viewing The ET Presence on Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4Hw6NmxceQ
OFB's Baby TAR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFaxQBoVHtc
Hi Prasun
Akash NG was supposed to have dual sensors( ku band seeker + iir sensor) like the south korean K SAAM. But the missile tested appears to just have ku seeker. Have the plans changed for the dual seeker?
Prasun, can the LCA MK1 or MK1a carry a external pod that can give it IRST capability for air to air engagements?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_gKl_x5d0A - excellent documentary on space travel
Prasun da 1)what's happening with pralay missile? No news recently
2)also what happened to pranash missile? Test this year?
3) some people say astra mk1 uses dual pulse rocket motor. Is that true?
Dear Prasun Sir,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8k-ZUAL_DY
In this video around 13:30 why the gun crews are running so far away from the MGS during fire?
Now revealed that Soros funding behind shaheen bagh and farmer's protest.
Leaked playbook from Greta Thunberg and Rihana show that there is a concerted effort to defund, destabilize, and destroy this country like Arab Spring in Syria. Possible that Abu Biden wants to islamify India like Hussain Obama did with Arab Spring and ISIS?
Manmohan Singh's daughter working as a lawyer for Soros' Foundation... Sonia Maino and other Congressis owe their loyalty to Soros Foundation not the country?
https://twitter.com/BermudaTreangle/status/1358369298348089344
Meanwhile Canada and Khlaistanis illegally interfering in internal matters.
Sir,
As per Force Magazine IA ordered Kalyani M40?
Prasun
Is the ucav development finally picking up ... Can you give us a expert dateline
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2021/02/ghatak-unmanned-combat-ariel-vehicle.html?m=1
To HOODS007: Yes, but not dual-sensors in a single SAM. Instead, it follows the principal adopted for the SpyDer & VL-MICA, i.e. use the same missile airframe but use different seekers. Hence, each Akash-NG TEL will have 4 cannister-encased Akash-NGs using active RF-seekers & 4 cannister-encased Akash-NGs fitted with IIR seekers.
To THEHUNDRED: It can, but this will involve getting rid of the centreline supersonic external fuel-tank.
To SARATHI97: 1) The Pralay SS-BSM is ready for flight-tests, but its TEL configuration is still under development. 2) Pranash SS-BSM is the same as the Prahar, the only difference being its conventional warhead. But between the Pralay & Pranash, it is far better to go with Pralay as the Pranash will be carrying lighter warheads. 3) All new-generation BVRAAMs use dual-pulse rocket-motors.
To SUDIPTA PATHAK: That’s because there are no dugout trenches close to the PCL-181s. This then exposes the gun-crews to hostile counter-fire. During an examination of images of the PLAGF tube/rocket artillery emplacements along the LAC, I saw that the PLAGF had dug-out trenches constructed behind each MGS & MBRL so as to take cover in case of hostile counter-artillery fire-assaults.
To YODDHA: LoLz! Why blame outsiders when it is the insiders who have caused utmost damage, as this video reveals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qd6MAGxeUM
If only the Govt of India had declared such protests (by the farmers & by those squatting at Shaheen Bagh) as constituting acts of civil disobedience, then no one would have dared indulging in any acts of provocation from either within the coutry or from outside. Instead, the Govt of India’s decision-making got paralysed due to its own fears over certain acts of the past, and the end-result was uncalled-for bloodbaths.
To ANWAY: No orders have been placed. Had such an order been placed, it would have been publicly announced by both the MoD & Kalyani Group/Bharat Forge. BTW, have you noticed that none of the MWF & AMCA posters even mentioned whether such MRCAs have a FBW or fly-by-light flight-control system?
To CHANAKYA CHATTERJEE: Only at conceptual levels. Hence there are differing conceptions like GHAATAK, SWIFT etc etc. For instance, there’s still no clarity on GTRE’s STFE project, i.e. whether it involves only the MANIK single-use turbofan or also the Laghu Shakti reusable turbofan.
Mr Prasun
1)The Army has Prahaar with tac nuke warheads in service is it correct?
2)The Army has called for the development of Pranash for conventional roles correct?
3)Why Prahaar has only 150 Km range and Pranash 200km when the former will carry Nuclear warheads isn't it wise to give Prahaar more standoff range?
4)Where wil Pralay fit in all of these will it carry Nuclear or conventional warheads or is it a replacement of Prithvi please elaborate?
Thank you
Harish
To HARISH: 1) Correct. 2) Not yet, since the IA prefers the Pralay as replacement for the existing SS-150 Prithvis. 3) Not necessary, since Prahar will be launched by the IA’s Artillery Divisions. 4) Pralay will replace the existing liquid-fuelled SS-150 Prithvis.
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