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Monday, August 30, 2021

Afghanistan's Future & Regional Geo-Political/Geo-Economic Options

Following a fortnight of targetted conciliatory statements issued by Taliban spokespersons Zabihullah Mujahid and Suhail Shaheen on mainstream English-language Indian TV channels, the Taliban’s head of political office in Doha, Sher Mohammed Abbas Stanekzai in an audio-visual Facebook post in Pashto spoke about the end of the war in Afghanistan and plans for forming an Islamic Emirate based on Shariah. Here is his message:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4pn7cqolEE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAkf_x7v82w

He also spoke about relations with key countries in the region, including China, India, Pakistan, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. “India is very important for this subcontinent. We want to continue our cultural, economic and trade ties with India like in the past… Trade with India through Pakistan is very important for us. With India, trade through air corridors will also remain open.” Interestingly, Stanekzai did not say anything about Afghanistan’s support for or participation in the  International North South Transport Corridor (INSTC) project, which brings together India, Iran, Russia and recently Uzbekistan. Perhaps Akhunzada will bring up the INSTC project whenever he broadcasts his detailed views on the future of Afghanistan-Iran ties.

India’s Imperatives

Unfortunately, for most New Delhi-based commentators (especially former Indian diplomats and retired senior military officers), the Taliban’s ascendancy in Kabul continues to be seen through the lens of the India-Pakistan conflict and India’s friction with China, making the fall of the India-friendly Ashraf Ghani government a significant challenge to India’s national security imperatives. Many of them in New Delhi are describing the US military withdrawal and the subsequent Taliban takeover of Kabul as a triumph of Pakistan’s Afghan policy. India chaired the special session of the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) earlier last week and pushed for a resolution calling for the immediate cessation of all hostilities in Afghanistan and the establishment of a new government that is united, inclusive and representative. Before the Taliban takeover, there was discussion in New Delhi about possible full-spectrum engagement with the Taliban at Doha, while maintaining support for the Ashraf Ghani government. However, with the fall of Kabul on August 15, India is now primarily concerned about regional fallout. India’s principal concerns regarding the Taliban revolved around the future of the Taliban’s relationship with Pakistan, whether the group ceases violence and how it manages its links with trans-national terrorist groups that threaten India. It is my considered assessment that India evacuated all her diplomatic personnel and Indian nationals (based in Kabul, Herat, Kandahar, Mazar-e-Sharif and Jalalabad) by special military flights from Kabul rather prematurely. While it is acceptable that India withdrew the bulk of its diplomatic staff and citizens, the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) should have left the door half-open by maintaining a Charge d’Affaires there along a skeletal support staff at the Embassy, since India as an all-inclusive democracy is rightly to be expected to place a premium on enduring people-to-people ties. India has also offered special emergency visas for Afghan nationals, with the priority of Hindu and Sikh Afghans. India has also offered to allow Afghan citizens to stay in India as refugees while being processed for resettlement to third countries.

Another widespread falsehood is that India has not maintained any communications channel with the Taliban. It may be recalled that the former Taliban Ambassador to Pakistan, Mullah Abdul Salaam Zaeef was granted a visa by the Govt of India to attend the the TEHELKA Group-organised annual THiNK festival in Goa November 2013 in Goa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGHyK_E5EOg&t=116s


And here is Mullah Abdul Salaam Zaeef again spelling out the Taliban’s perception of India last week:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtwooGcRuRA

Needless to say, the Doha-based Zaeef has been used by India as an unofficial interlocutor since 2013. Looking to the future, India’s expectations from Afghanistan are likely to be similar to those of Russia, i.e. both want the Emirate of Afghanistan to adopt, at the very least, MINIMALLY CIVILISED attitudes and governance norms. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has described the recent events in Afghanistan as constituting “the revenge of history” over “modernity and globalism.” After all, both India and Russia have full diplomatic ties with countries like Israel, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Myanmar and the People’s Republic of China—countries that are not exactly ‘model’ states as far as the human rights records go. However, both India and Russia will not establish formal diplomatic ties with Kabul until the 135 members of the Taliban gouping are removed from the UN Sanctions List. Unlike Al Qaeda, ISIS, the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), and many other similar groups, the Taliban is not specifically listed on any UN sanctions list, but it remains sanctioned nonetheless. In 2011 the sanctions regime established in UNSCR-1267 was split up to create separate tracks for the Taliban (UNSCR-1988) and Al Qaeda (UNSCR-1989) in part to provide momentum to the Afghan-led peace process by creating incentives for the Taliban to improve its behaviour. This split, however, has created some of the confusion. The original criteria for listing Al Qaeda were for supporting the Taliban and Al Qaeda, and it strains credulity to think that the UN Security Council had not intended to impose sanctions on the Taliban itself via UNSCR-1267, given that the asset freeze language is clear. Therefore, statements from the Security Council and key member-states support the existence of the broader assets-freeze on the Taliban.

Pakistan’s Conundrum

As far as Pakistan goes, on August 16, Pakistan’s National Security Committee, chaired by Prime Minister Imran Ahmed Khan Niazi, reiterated Islamabad's commitment to an inclusive political settlement representing all Afghan ethnic groups as the way forward. The Pakistani Foreign Office’s official statement also lauded the fact that the Taliban had averted major bloodshed and violence in Afghanistan, and it called on all parties in Afghanistan to respect the rule of law, protect fundamental human rights and ensure that Afghan soil is not used by any terrorist grouping against any country. Pakistan has not yet officially recognised the Taliban-led government in Afghanistan and has largely evacuated its diplomatic personnel. In contrast to the careful official statements, there is a sense of triumphalism within Pakistan that its policy of hedging and supporting the Taliban has paid off. Through the lens of its rivalry with India, the Taliban victory is seen as the defeat of a pro-India Afghan government. Also, many right-wing Pakistani politicians are painting the Taliban ascendancy as a pan-Islamist victory over the superpower United States, a theme that plays well to right-of-centre domestic politics. In recent remarks, PM Niazi said that the Afghans are breaking “the shackles of slavery,” referring to Western cultural imposition and democratic values on Afghanistan. His comments have been controversial and seen as a tacit approval of the Taliban’s preference for an Emirate that does not tolerate any form of elections and democratic processes, but Pakistan insists that his statements were taken out of context. Within the Pakistani intelligentsia, there are pragmatic voices worried about the future security implications. There is significant worry about the extremist religiosity’s spillover into Pakistan, especially amid the re-emergence of the TTP and the emboldening of other violent sectarian groups. With Pakistani leverage over the Taliban evolving, Pakistan continues to push for a political settlement that allows for Taliban legitimacy but includes other Afghan groups like the Tajiks, Uzbeks and Hazaras. Early last week, a group of non-Pashtun former Northern Alliance Afghan Tajik politicians met with Pakistani leaders in Islamabad to discuss the possibilities of engaging with the Taliban to form a new “inclusive” government. Worried about a spillover from the fighting, Pakistan had shut its side of the border prior to the Taliban's takeover. But after a brief closure, it was re-opened for trade and restricted pedestrian movement.

Despite all this, it has always been and continues to be Afghanistan that constitutes the principal existential threat to Pakistan. After all, Afghanistan was the only country that had formally opposed the creation of Pakistan at the UN. And this was due to the geopolitical cartography drawn by the then British Colonial administrator led by Sir Henry Mortimer Durand in 1893 through a pact with the then Amir of Afghanistan, Abdur Rahman, covering a vast stretch of terrains both rugged as well as plains (though strategically significant) of over around 1,519 miles. One of the major legal implications of the Durand line Agreement of 1893 is that the delimitation of territories which created a de facto frontier (not boundary) between Afghanistan and India. As part of the Agreement, the Amir retained his position in the Wakhan Corridor, thus separating the Tzarist Russian and British troops. At the same time, he also ensured his control over the “Asmar district and the Wazir district of Birmal”. On the other hand, the Amir as part of the Treaty had agreed to transfer Pashtun-dominated regions like “Chitral, Swat, New Chaman, Khabiar Pass, Chagai, North Waziristan”, etc. The Treaty was not ratified by any legislative bodies of either sides, and hence it is legally untenable. The Durand Line and the boundary (administrative border) between the Tribal Agencies and Settled Districts of the North-West Frontier Province (now Pakistan’s Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province) were simply delineating zones of influence and responsibility. Thus, it can be stated that it was not a legally-binding demarcated and delineated international boundary (IB) at all, but was rather a de-facto arrangement keeping the geopolitical developments in mind at that point of time. In 1921 Afghanistan and British Colonial administration signed another agreement that provided a three-year term for the Treaty and “revocation” of the Treaty if “both the parties agree”. In addition, legal luminaries and scholars have stated that the British colonial administration “signed the treaty using duress” in 1893, hence any law which was signed “under duress is invalid” in the domain of International Law.


Up until 2017, Pakistan tried in vain to legalise the status of the Durand Line by making it a legally-binding IB by requesting the Taliban’s political office in Doha, Qatar, to issue a statement to this effect. But the Taliban rebuffed Islamabad and instead told Pakistan to settle this issue with the Ashraf Ghani government. Kabul too refused to acknowledge the legality of the Durand Line and only after this did the Pakistan Army begin to fence the 2,611km-long (1,622-mile) Durand Line. The physical barrier between the two countries comprises two sets of chain-link fences separated by a 2-metre (6.5-feet) space that has been filled with concertina wire-coils. The double-fence is about 4 metres (13-feet) high. The Pakistan Army has installed surveillance cameras to check any movement along the fence.

In a further blow to Pakistan, the Taliban spokesperson Zabihullah Mujahid has stated that Kabul will not hand over TTP and Baloch separatists residing within Afghanistan to Islamabad and will instead encourage reconciliation negotiations between Pakistan and its separatist groups.

Iran’s Leverage

The Islamic Republic of Iran’s top concerns include stemming the flow of migrants and refugees, containing narcotics trafficking, maintaining cross-border trade, mitigating the threat from the Islamic State Wilayat Khorasan (IS-WK) branch, sharing water resources and ensuring the safety of Afghanistan’s Shia Hazara minority. To deal with the influx of Afghan refugees, Iran has set up temporary camps in three border provinces—Razavi Khorasan, South Khorasan, and Sistan-Balochistan. As of 2020, Iran already hosted some 950,000 documented Afghan refugees and at least 2 million more undocumented Afghans. Iran had already taken precautions on the ground. Earlier this month, Teheran reduced staff at its Embassy in Kabul and evacuated staff from three out of four of its Consulates to the capital. Only guards and local workers remained in Jalalabad, Kandahar and Mazar-e-Sharif. Diplomats remained in the Herat Consulate after the Taliban took control of the western city, but are safe. However, Teheran has enough reasons to feel confident about the cards that it holds, i.e. with each passing day, as Afghanistan’s stockpiles of perishable commodities and foodgrains gets reduced to dangerous levels and Kabul’s purchasing powers get greatly diminished, the Taliban will will have no other choice but to ask for humanitarian assistance from any and all quarters, especially through Iran’s Chabahar-based FTIZ. Consequently, India can confidently expect such a request to emanate from Kabul anytime now and India is likely to reciprocate by sending emergency shipments of foodgrains to a grateful Kabul.

The CARs’ Collective Stance

The Central Asian Republics of Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan lived with the Taliban in the 1990s and will adjust to living with them again. Leaders of these four countries had no particular interest in maintaining the status quo in Afghanistan and no motivation for supporting the weak, fragmented and corrupt government in Kabul. An Afghanistan engulfed in civil war would pose serious security and economic challenges to Central Asia. A descent into chaos could return Afghanistan to a hub for Jihadist and criminal groupings that would greatly destabilise the entire region and impede any progress on South-Central Asia economic connectivity, trade and transit. The Taliban, on the other hand, are trying to position themselves to be a centralised and strong government in Afghanistan—something that the Central Asian, Russian and Iranian leaders are very familiar with. As long as the Taliban are willing and able to fight the IS-WK group and eliminate or contain other transnational violent extremist groups such as Al Qaida and the remnants of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan; secure their borders; and provide for safe passage of goods and trade between Central and South Asia, the Central Asian Republics are likely to adjust to working with them again, of course after Russia’s approval. The Taliban has even promised to eliminate the narcotics trade. The frontline Central Asian countries of Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan have all reacted with a demonstrative flexing of military muscle by shoring up border security. Afghan Army special operations forces and Afghan Air Force pilots have fled in large numbers to Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, as have several bureaucrats dealing with internal security, national defence and civilian provincial governors. Tajikistan has already accepted Afghan refugees and has also requested support from the Russia-led Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO) in anticipation of more refugee flows across the IB. Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, on the other hand, have been very cautious in opening up their IBs for refugees, with the Uzbek authorities even turning back Afghan Army personnel who had escaped to Uzbekistan after their bases were overrun by Taliban combatants earlier this month.

China’s Predictable Mercantile Attitude

On the heels of the Taliban takeover, China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi told US Secretary of State Antony Blinken that China desired a “soft landing” for Afghanistan. What did Beijing’s top diplomat mean? Wang’s words highlight China’s paramount priority for Afghanistan: stability above all else. What Beijing fears most is a period of uncertainty during which the country devolves into protracted chaos marked by widespread violence, a humanitarian catastrophe of epic scale and an Afghanistan that is once again an epicenter and exporter of transnational terrorism. While never comfortable with the US military presence in Afghanistan—which via the Wakhan Corridor abuts China’s westernmost and sensitive frontier province of Xinjiang—Beijing had privately hoped that Washington DC’s efforts would bring lasting stability to the troubled country. However, today, Beijing’s leaders view the abrupt US exit from Afghanistan with mixed emotions. Beijing’s Communist totalitarian rulers are pragmatists and have long been agnostic about who governs Afghanistan as long as China’s vital interests are safeguarded. Today, these vital interests boil down to a smooth transition to a new national-unity government that can maintain stability and domestic order. Over the years Beijing has shrewdly continued to engage diplomatically with the Taliban, most recently welcoming a high-level delegation to Tianjin last July. Beijing is actively pursuing an accommodation with the new authorities in Kabul as it seeks assurances that a Taliban administration will neither foment trouble in Xinjiang nor disrupt China’s Belt & Road Initiative-related economic endeavours in Afghanistan.

Mapping The Journey Of A Still-Evolving Taliban

Since its removal from power in late 2001 and formation of a resilient insurgency, the Afghan Taliban has been described as comprising little more than a loose network, dis-organised, lacking a command-n-control hierarchy, and having “a tendency toward fragmentation”. This narrative was drawn in part from notions of disarmament and reconciliation that had been promoted, since at least 2005, by Afghanistan’s then President Hamid Karzai. From a counter-insurgency (COIN) perspective, it stood to reason that if a number of Taliban combatants were driven primarily by local grievances, rather than by the strict ideology that made the movement notorious during its previous Islamic Emirate regime (1996–2001), these members could perhaps be coaxed away from the insurgency. Afghans themselves have long drawn a distinction between the movement’s ideological, fighting core and its “part-time,” inactive, and other more pragmatically motivated members. The string of senior-level deaths and arrests in 2006 and 2007 that hinted at competitive backstabbing; the rampant criminality and notorious brutality among field commanders, in contravention of the Amir Mohd Omar’s issued guidance; some figures’ cultivation of financial resources and external relationships that ran contrary to the agenda of the Amir’s Quetta-based Shura—all took place well before Omar’s death, before suspicion, deception, and combatants’ faltering faith could be blamed for eroded cohesion.

In 2007 the Taliban reached a turning point when the group’s senior military commander, Mullah Dadullah Akhund, was killed in a raid by NATO special operations forces on May 13, 2007 in Helmand’s Girishk district. Dadullah was notoriously ruthless, having controversially introduced suicide bombings to the conflict, and had taken an unorthodox stance by actively engaging with the Western press, including making provocative statements of support for Al Qaeda. Reports of Dadullah’s death hinted that he had been betrayed, corresponding with rumours of antipathy among other leaders. The eventual death or arrest of three other senior figures during this period, and the Taliban’s later actions against commanders considered to have “gone rogue,” added to suspicions of behind-the-scenes internecine struggles. Of the several reasons why factionalism grew within the movement, one was the shift in the origins and distribution of external support and resources. Beginning around 2009, resources began to be dispersed more evenly across the leadership Shuras in Quetta, Peshawar, Miran Shah, Mashad, and “the North.” As the Taliban expanded its reach across the country, changing the way the movement connected to new local communities at the same time that its internal hierarchy was evolving, the grouping effectively experienced growing pains. The movement had expanded to the point that wholesale organisational adaptation, while necessary, left it less cohesive and vulnerable to external shocks. In any case, it was several years before another Taliban commander came into the public spotlight for disagreeing with the central leadership—even as it became increasingly clear that alternative centres of power were emerging within the grouping.

 By 2012, there were signs that growing factionalism was leading to fragmentation. Amid broader wrangling between the Shuras over financing and operations, tensions escalated between top military commander Mullah Zakir and his deputy Mullah Amir Mansour (the slain Dadullah’s younger brother), eventually resulting in Zakir’s demotion. Moreover, a faction was appearing to distance itself and emerging as a distinct group: claims had occasionally surfaced from the Mullah Dadullah Feda’i Mahaaz, or “Sacrificing Front,” ever since Amir Mansour had adopted his namesake and his command. The younger “Mansour Dadullah” was demoted and punished by the Taliban for disobedience, and thereafter his followers made the occasional claim of brutal attacks—including on a former Taliban Minister and High Peace Council member. There was no evidence at the time that the Mullah Dadullah Front had entirely separated itself from the Taliban, but by 2013 the splinter group appeared to have split once more: under a commander Najibullah, the Feda’i Mahaaz actively began to seek publicity, carrying out brutal high-profile killings. By 2014, a spokesperson was claiming that the Feda’i Mahaaz opposed the Taliban’s stance on peace talks, mocking the group as a “Qatari militia.” At a strategic level, the Taliban failed to respond in a unified fashion to the Afghan government’s 2014 elections, with subsequent reporting by international observers pointing to disparate agendas and approaches among the group’s regional commands. Disagreements over the use of violence, discordant political stances on peace talks and covert Pakistani patronage, and raw power struggles had all been fomenting for several years before the perfect storm of 2015 broke, comprising the leaked news of Mullah Omar’s death in Zaabul, the ensuing succession struggle, and the emergence of the Islamic State–Wilayat Khorasan (IS-WK). So what actually happened in 2015? Why did the Taliban fragment the way it did, and, just as important, why had it largely resumed its pre-2015 cohesiveness less than a year later?

It is true that a cadre of dissatisfied hard-liners defected to IS-WK from Taliban ranks, but these members were mostly localised in pockets of the eastern provinces of Nangarhar and Kunar. Ultimately, the movement’s most prominent ideological opponents of peace talks did not openly split from the group, despite a full year of tension and dysfunction within the leadership. Indeed, the highest-ranking defector from the Taliban in 2015, Mullah Rasoul, later announced that he was in favour of a peaceful settlement. Moreover, the highest-ranking leader publicly known to oppose talks in earlier years, Mullah Qayum Zakir, who never broke with the group, was promoted back into upper echelons of leadership after years of pariah status, at the same time that leadership Shuras finally affirmed their consensus in favour of peace talks in January 2020. Even as weak results led the US and Afghan governments to wind down the various stratagems intended to disarm and reconcile the Taliban combatants, hints of divide-and-defeat methods persisted—such as the US blacklisting the Haqqani Network without enforcing new sanctions against the “core” Taliban membership. By 2015, the Taliban had violently reasserted their presence across the country, but a confluence of events—the displacement of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) combatants across the eastern border, the related emergence of an IS-WK satellite, and the public revelation that Taliban founder Mullah Omar had been dead since 2013—sent shock-waves through the movement and halted faltering back-channel peace talks. While some well-informed observers speculated as to the group’s fragmented nature and the potential for open schisms, other scholars and practitioners rightly noted that insurgencies and extremist groups often grow more violent in the aftermath of leadership transitions as new leaders seek to establish credibility. An expectation of fragmentation persisted after the death due to a US drone-strike of a second Taliban leader, Mullah Omar’s successor, Mullah Akhtar Mansour in the Dalbandin area of Pakistan’s Balochistan province on May 21, 2016.

Mansour had managed to corral many high-ranking dissenters back into the fold, obtaining delayed and begrudging oaths of allegiance, but his tenure remained characterised by internal polarisation and discord. The very nature of Mansour’s death seemed to highlight the persistence of a “forcing fragmentation” strategy, even if US foreign policy circles had dropped most public emphasis on intentionally fragmenting the Taliban. In its place, however, the Afghan government rigorously took up the strategy. As late as 2017, then commander of US forces in Afghanistan General John W Nicholson noted that the long-term strategy of the Afghan security forces was “fight, fracture, talk.” Yet the paradigm of splitting insurgent groups persisted in some corners. Some continued to suggest that the key to a political settlement lay in the Taliban’s internal divisions. Others hopefully pointed to the Afghan government’s 2017 political settlement with Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and his Hezb-e Islami party (HIG) as a model for future agreements with the Taliban. These hopes leaned on an implicit characterisation of the HIG peace deal as successfully dividing Afghanistan’s insurgency, splitting Gulbuddin’s “reconcilable” combatants off from an “irreconcilable” Taliban. Afghan political figures then said as much since Hekmatyar’s return to Afghanistan, suggesting more than once that the Taliban should be negotiated with along similar terms. But this perspective ignores the fact that HIG had always been a rather separate and distinct movement from the Taliban, not a faction that was successfully “peeled off.”Even amid the fracas of 2015, the Taliban’s credibility was boosted under Mansour’s leadership after the provincial capital of Kunduz briefly fell, the most dramatic military achievement of the group since before 2001.

Cohesive groups requiring a strong horizontal network of ties is critical. It is not the ideal of loyalty to an Amir that constitutes the core strength of these horizontal ties, but the very nature of the Taliban’s Mahaaz structure (multiple fronts), and its continued relevance, that have made and keep the group so cohesive. The Mahaaz structure lacks intermediary ranks that might separate top figures from field commanders, operates via the direct collection and distribution of funds, serves as the predominant recruitment mechanism for the movement’s combatants, and functions through personalised relationships among the leadership. It is this structure has kept the movement intact despite the external pressures and internal factionalism, tribal tensions, and national expansion that it has faced over the past three decades. There was a period, just before the fractious year of 2015, when the Taliban’s institutional reforms appeared to have replaced its informal Mahaaz structure, down to the fundamental order of its military chain of command. Yet in the years since, the movement has returned to the reliability of Mahaaz networks even as it has institutionalised at a steady pace, a concurrent approach that has, over the years, somewhat confounded Afghanistan-watchers. This organisational contradiction may have come about as a result of the Taliban’s forays into military centralisation, which proved highly contentious and may have been at the root of faltering cohesion within the movement. This was likely because full military professionalisation of the movement would have removed the benefits the Mahaaz system afforded to each individual in the movement’s leadership. By preserving the Mahaaz structure, the Taliban’s leadership remains cohesive, and the organisation has instead increased institutionalisation through its civilian-oriented commissions and positions for governance, casualty recording and prevention, and information and media operations, including internal messaging and guidance. This practice has strengthened what the vertical ties between insurgents and the local rural communities that host them.

Mullah Haibatullah Akhundzada, upon assuming power on May 26, 2016, intentionally split operational control of the Taliban’s military forces between Sirajuddin Haqqani and Mullah Mohd Yaqoob (son of Mullah Mohammad Omar) in order to prevent the two from creating potentially powerful breakaway factions. An attempt on Haibatullah’s life (or at least the killing of his brother, a cleric in Quetta) in August 2019 appeared to barely affect the movement; such an affront to the core of the Taliban’s bond might have been expected to trigger a more visible response. Yaqoob took charge as chief of operations and the Afghanistan affairs portfolio. He has also set up a new financial commission to manage the Taliban’s expenditure. Among his supporters were Qayyum Zakir, who was influential in the narcotics-producing Afghan province of Helmand, and Ibrahim Sadar, a powerful voice in the Helmand Shura, or council. From the time of his initial bid for leadership, Yaqoob also enjoyed the backing of the Taliban’s Interior Minister and Kandahar’s shadow governor Sharafuddin Taqi (who was killed after a US air-strike close to the Musa Qala market on April 1, 2019). Yaqoob gained the loyalty and operational resources of the most vigorous Taliban factions in the south, where the Haqqani Network had always been unpopular.  Yaqoob favoured the peace process with the US and rapprochement with India. On the other hand, Sirajuddin Haqqani, the head of the Haqqani Network and deputy leader of the Taliban, was and is an ally of Pakistan and Al Qaeda. Anas Haqqani is Sirajuddin’s brother. It is under the Haqqani Network’s patronage that Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM), an extremist group based in Bahawalpur, Pakistan, is operating three training camps in Nangarhar province. With an estimated strength of 5,000 loyal combatants along with a sophisticated and independent financing network, the Haqqani Network remains a formidable threat in its own right. Even cut off from the broader Taliban grouping, it remains capable of inflicting significant damage. Then there are about 500 combatants active in Afghanistan’s Kunar and Nangarhar provinces that are loyal to the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT).

Tectonic Policy-Shifts

The latter half of the previous decade witnessed the decisive steps required for achieving an end-state in Afghanistan. In 2016, the Republican Party-controlled US Congress passed legislation to block US$450 million in aid to Pakistan for failing to “demonstrate its commitment” and taking action against the Haqqani Network. The legislation which made $450 million of Coalition Support Fund (CSF) to Pakistan ineligible for the US Secretary of Defense’s waiver authority unless the Secretary provided a certification to the Congressional defence committees. There was a similar certification requirement in the year ending on September 31, 2016, but the amount was $300 million. The US Defense Secretary was not able to give necessary certification for the release of the CSF to Pakistan. According to the US National Defense Authorization Act 2017, of the total amount of reimbursement and support authorised for Pakistan during the period beginning on October 1, 2016 and ending on December 31, 2017, $450 million would not be eligible for a national security waiver unless the Secretary of Defence certified that Pakistan continued to conduct operations against the Haqqani Network. This was followed on August 21, 2017 by President Trump outlining his Afghanistan policy, saying that though his “original instinct was to pull out,” he will instead press ahead with an open-ended military commitment to prevent the emergence of “a vacuum for terrorists.” Differentiating his policy from Obama’s, Trump said that decisions about withdrawal will be based on “conditions on the ground,” rather than arbitrary timelines. He invited India to play a greater role in rebuilding Afghanistan, while castigating Pakistan for harbouring the Taliban insurgents. He also pledged to loosen restrictions on combat even as the UN reported a spike in civilian casualties caused by Afghan and coalition air-strikes. A political settlement with the Taliban, Trump said, was far off. In January 2018 the Taliban carried out a series of bold terror attacks in Kabul that killed more than 115 people amid a broader upsurge in violence. The attacks came as the Trump Administration implemented its Afghanistan plan, deploying troops across rural Afghanistan to advise Afghan National Army Brigades and launching relentless air-strikes against Opium laboratories to try to decimate the Taliban’s funding sources. The Administration also cut off security assistance worth billions of dollars to Pakistan for what President Trump called its “lies and deceit” in harbouring Taliban combatants. Furthermore, the Financial Action Rask Force (FATF) in June 2018 placed Pakistan on its ‘Grey List’ for failing to implement effective measures to stop terror-financing and money laundering practices and networks.

The financial strangulation had its desired effect and Pakistan began taking a series of corrective steps, starting with Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar being allowed to depart Pakistan for Qatar on October 25, 2018 on the solicitation of Qatar after Qatar’s Foreign Minister Sheikh Mohammed Bin Abdulrahman Al Thani visited Islamabad and held meetings with Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan and Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi. On February 15, 2010, Abdul Ghani Baradar was arrested by Pakistani authorities in the southern port city of Karachi. The ISI took him into custody, promising the CIA that he would be handed over to them the next day. To the amazement of the ISI, Baradar subsequently disclosed to the ISI that his capture was arranged for him to negotiate a deal with the CIA unbeknownst to Mullah Omar and to the ISI. Mullah Baradar, was commander of the Taliban's formation in the western region (Herat) as well as Kabul. In 2001, he was the Deputy Minister of Defence. His wife is Mullah Mohd Omar’s sister. He was born in Weetmak village in Dehrawood district, in the Uruzgan province of Afghanistan, in 1968. But he is also part of the Popalzai branch of Durrani tribe, the same as Afghan President Hamid Karzai and the founder-King of Afghanistan, Ahmed Shah Durrani (Abdali). This tribe is also close to the Ghilzai tribe, to which Mullah Umar belonged. In 1989, after the USSR’s withdrawal from Afghanistan and the country was torn by civil war, Baradar set up a Madrassa in Kandahar with Mohd Omar. The duo then launched the Taliban movement in 1994 and came to power in 1996.

Pakistan had by then assessed that if all went well, then the Taliban would be able to negotiate a treaty on the withdrawal of foreign military forces from Afghanistan by 2020. If that did happen, then extensive investments needed to be made on convincing the Taliban to have an all-inclusive national unity government operating from Kabul, failing which Afghanistan would once again descend into an unending civil war, which in turn would totally knock Pakistan’s already perilous economy off its legs. If this were to happen, then more than half of the Pakistan Army (PA) would be required to be deployed along the Durand Line to prevent it from being breached by successive influxes of fleeing Afghan refugees. This in turn would drastically alter the balance of military power in India’s favour along both the Working Boundary astride Jammu and the Line of Control (LoC) along Kashmir. Consequently, the PA under its Chief of the Army Staff (COAS) Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa came up with the ‘Bajwa Doctrine 1.0’, which was publicly outlined by the PA COAS himself at the Munich Security Conference in February 2018 and again a month later in an informal discussion with selected Pakistani journalists on March 25. Key elements of this doctrine were the PA’s adherence to democracy, ensuring proper respect for all state institutions, exterminating terrorism, mainstreaming of the estimated 47,000 extremist Jihadists, and viewing the 18th Amendment to Pakistan’s Constitution (which delegated more autonomy to the provinces) with great skepticism. What he did not reveal then was that through the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate, he had already initiated a series of parleys with India’s Research & Analysis Wing (R & AW) in London (because both India and Pakistan trusted the UK as a party entrusted with displaying ‘fairplay’), which were facilitated by the British Chief of the General Staff, Gen Sir Nicholas Carter, following a visit by Gen Bajwa to the UK in May 2017 where he gave a speech at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI). This was followed by the PA’s Rawalpindi-based GHQ inviting the Indian Army’s Sanjay Vishwasrao, India’s Military Attache at the Indian High Commission to Pakistan to the Pakistan Day military parade on March 23 in Islamabad. Such signals were a way of conveying to India that: 1) Pakistan was sincere about its desire for seeing the emergence of an all-inclusive government of national unity in Afghanistan that would be at peace with all its immediate neighbours and neighbouring countries. 2) Pakistan was ready for adopting a modus vivendi regarding the issue Jammu & Kashmir, under which each party would keep what it already had and this would be formalised at a later day into a permanent solution.  

On January 26, 2019 the Afghan Taliban and US officials in Doha, Qatar, agreed on a preliminary draft of a likely peace accord, including US withdrawal from Afghanistan in 18 months. The talks between US special envoy Zalmay Khalilzad and Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar centered on the US withdrawing its troops from Afghanistan in exchange for the Taliban pledging to block international terrorist groups from operating out of Afghan soil. The ramped-up diplomacy followed signals that President Trump planned to pull out 7,000 troops, about half the total US deployment. Khalilzad said that the US will insist that the Taliban agree to participate in an intra-Afghan dialogue on the country’s political structure, as well as a cease-fire. It was unclear whether Trump would condition the troop withdrawal on those terms. Events took a turn for the worse when the JeM orchestrated the Pulwama suicide bombing on February 14, 2019 and India militarily retaliated by conducting an air-strike of the JeM’s terrorist training camp at Jabba Top (at an elevation of 4,000 feet above sea-level) at Kagan Gali along the Kunhar River inside KPK. However, after India on August 5 that year converted Jammu & Kashmir from a State into a Union Territory (UT), carved off Ladakh as a separate UT and terminated the applicability of Articles 370 and 35A on J & K UT, the response from the PA was muted, since, according to the PA, Pakistan had never recognised the princely state of J & K’s accession to India on October 26, 1947. However, to allay the Pakistani public’s anger about such a muted response, the PA began putting both the WB and the LoC under stress by engaging in almost-daily shelling of areas along the WB and LoC—which continued for another 17 months. In addition, Gen Bajwa got a three-year extension of tenure as COAS in August 2016. On September 7, 2019 President Trump abruptly broke off peace talks a week after Khalilzad announced that an agreement had been reached in principle with Taliban leaders. In a tweet, Trump said that he cancelled a secret meeting with the Taliban and Afghan President Ghani at Camp David after a US soldier was killed in a Taliban attack. The Taliban said that it remained “committed to continuing negotiations,” but warned that the cancellation will cause an increase in the number of deaths.

On October 8, 2019 Gen Bajwa accompanied PM Niazi on a visit to Beijing where both of them met China’s President Xi Jinping, National People's Congress (NPC) chairman Li Zhanshu and Premier Li Keqiang. Separately, Gen Bajwa called on Xu Qiliang, Vice Chairman of the Central Military Commission and discussed China’s plan to engage in a major military standoff with India along eastern Ladakh (thereby tying down Indian military power along the Line of Actual Control, or LAC) until Pakistan finished conducting the Assembly elections in PoJK’s Gilgit-Baltistan  in November 2020 and the General Election in ‘Azad Kashmir’ in late July 2021. Finally, on February 29, 2020 the Doha Peace Agreement was inked between the Taliban and the US. The agreement said that intra-Afghan negotiations should begin the following month, but Afghan President Ghani insisted that the Taliban must meet his government’s own conditions before it enters talks. The US-Taliban deal did not call for an immediate cease-fire, and in the days after its signing, Taliban combatants carried out dozens of attacks on Afghan security forces. US forces responded with an air-strike against the Taliban in the southern province of Helmand. In May 2020, a Taliban spokesman made a shocking statement describing India’s revocation of Kashmir’s autonomy and subsequent military crackdown as an Indian “internal affair.” On February 25, 2021 a joint statement from the militaries of India and Pakistan proclaimed that both had agreed to strict adherence to the November 2003 ceasefire understanding along both the WB and LoC. Next, on April 23 in an ‘off-the-record’ interaction with about 35 selected journalists during an official iftar event, the PA’s COAS stated that Pakistan would be satisfied if India restored statehood to J & K and desisted from altering the UT’s demographic profile. This was an attempt to test the waters to see how Pakistan’s print and broadcast media and then the nation would react to actually ‘burying the past and moving ahead’ as dictated by geo-economic rather than geopolitical ground realities. Such official thinking on relations with India is said to have been influenced by the fact that wars did not produce a solution and neither did the Kashmir Jihad. Consequently, the PA is said to be thinking in terms of ‘strategic patience’. This policy was reportedly based on a realisation that a ‘hot LoC’ was posing a major drain on the economy. According to this ‘Bajwa 2.0 Doctrine’, Pakistan’s geo-economic vision centered on four fundamental pillars: lasting lasting peace at home and abroad; non-interference of any kind in the internal affairs of neighbouring and regional countries; stimulating intra-regional trade and connectivity; and ensuring sustainable development and prosperity through the creation of investment and economic poles in the region. 

By mid-August, it took just approximately 80,000 Taliban combatants (almost all of them Afghan-origin but Pakistan-based) a few days to convince the 300,699 troops (abruptly abandoned by the US military and civilian contractors) serving the Afghan government to surrender and fade away without any major fight. In fact, the Taliban’s military leadership (mostly Kandaharis) had since 2018 employed the Chanakyian stratagem of gradually causing the adversary’s deployment footprint to decrease from the outer edges before attacking the centre-of-gravity. Consequently, the Taliban began befriending the Tribal elders and provincial Governors of the bulk of the provinces all around Kabul before laying siege to Kabul. It may be recalled that: When Chanakya/Kautilya first met Chandragupta Maurya in Takshashila around 1516 BCE, Chandragupta had just failed in his fifth or sixth attempt to overthrow the Nanda dynasty by a coup in their capital Pataliputra in Magadha/Bihar and fled to the North West. Kautilya then asked him, when you eat a hot dish of rice do you plunge your fingers into the centre or do you start at the cool fringes.

Present-day Kandahar’s ancient name was ‘Quandhar’, derived from the name of the region of GandharaEven during the Mahabharata period, the Gandhara region was very much culturally and politically a part of India. King Œakuni, brother of Gandhârî, fought with the Pandavas in the Mahabharata War at Kurukshetra. The Gandhara kingdom covered portions of today’s northern Pakistan and eastern Afghanistan. It was spread over the Pothohar Plateau, Peshawar Valley and the Kabul River-Valley. The word Gandhāra finds a mention in the Rig Veda, Uttara-Ramayana and Mahabharata. The word means Gandha (fragrance), i.e. the land of fragrances. It is said that Gandhara is one of the names of Lord Shiva as mentioned in the Sahastranaam (thousand names) that was obtained by Sri Krishna from Sage Upamanyu in the Mahabharata. The same was narrated to Yudhisthira, Bhishma and other members of the Kuru clan. It is possible that the devotees of Shiva were the first inhabitants of Gandhara. The people there lived on the banks of River Kabul (also Kabol or Kubhā) right till its confluence with the River Indus since the Vedic times. King Subala ruled Gandhara some 7,500 years ago. He had a daughter named Gandhari, who was married to the Prince of Hastinapur kingdom, Dhritrashtra. Gandhari also had a brother, Shakuni, who later took over the kingship of Gandhara after his father’s death. After losing the Mahabharata War, several Kaurava descendants settled in the Gandhara kingdom. Later, they slowly migrated to today’s Iraq and Saudi Arabia. With the spread of Buddhism in the Gandhara region, including parts of Asia, Shiva worship was slowly wiped out. A few Mauryan Kings ruled Gandhara for some time until the invading Muslims, including Mahmud Ghazni, took over the reins in the early 11th century.

139 comments:

Anonymous said...

Stanekzai's First Outreach to India on May 17, 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9pX9TacyVo

DG-ISPR's Press Conference on 27-8-2021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=945i8WIokSg

Afghanistan-Pakistan Relations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC_N4HyVZVw

Prospects of Understanding between India & Pakistan on Afghanistan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCp2h2hXFTU

Wounds of Waziristan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1_2ysVT9HY

And for those who are mourning about the fall of the Ashraf Ghani govt in Kabul, all the signs were clearly evident back in 2009 & the fate was foretold by every discerning intellectual, as shown in these 2 memorable documentaries:

Search for OBL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlhQ1cc3EbQ&t=33s

Obama’s War: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3-FDWSRabM&t=36s

Final Hours of NDS-0 Special Operations Battalion in Kandahar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGQ34RCv7Pc

Interesting Reads: https://theprint.in/opinion/islamabad-has-a-problem-taliban-wont-tone-down-now-in-afghanistan-or-pakistan/722562/

https://theprint.in/opinion/what-happens-in-kabul-wont-stay-in-kabul-us-can-get-ready-for-challenge-across-muslim-world/724287/

Raghu said...

Prasun,

Thanks for the detailed explanation. However, how does the interests of the US,.UK and EU fit into also this? Is it contradictory to the interests of Afghanistan's neighbours and India or is it in sync?

Because, if all concerned countries don't agree on a common minimum agenda and goal in Afghanistan, there could be trouble and instability in future

Regards,

Raghu

AMIT BISWAS said...

How come the US is behaving so naive

https://www.firstpost.com/world/massive-biometric-database-of-persons-who-helped-us-nato-and-raw-in-taliban-control-now-say-reports-9921801.html

joydeep ghosh said...

@prasun da

you said something about my conspiracy theories

1 well fact that you mentioned India in just 3 lines can be summarized that India has become a non player in Afghanistan

2. India holds UNSC presidency and wanted to include Taliban in latest resolution but P5 didnt allow its mention at all

https://manometcurrent.com/unsc-softens-on-taliban-name-removed-from-statement-on-terrorism/

3. Taliban is brutal with its own understanding and interpretation of is;am and that is why al are scared

4. Taliban says it wants good ties with India but doesnt specify how? all neighboring nations have stake inside Afghanoistan, any atrocity committed on them by pashtun dominated taliban drowns all hope of normalization, and ifthey do protest Taliban awash with US weapons is more than match for them even Iran may get bloody nose.

5. Already Taliban has started going back on it words regarding women rights

6. Problem is taliban is group pf armed me each with own agenda who does what no one knows

thanks

Joydeep Ghosh

5.

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

Its really irritating to see Pervez Hoodboy writing this type of brain dead article, may be ISPR inspired :

https://theprint.in/opinion/dont-forget-taliban-also-want-the-good-life-of-dohas-luxury-hotels-and-quetta-bungalows/724160/

Harsh said...

is the 6 month extension given to current Air chief related to additional rafale orders or with AFPAK situation?

it can't be for some meek reasons.

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/taliban-kill-14-people-of-hazara-minority-in-afghanistan-s-daykundi-province-reports/ar-AANUcYe?ocid=msedgntp

Prasun Da, Will it antagonise Iran ? However loved your anonymous Avatar. :D

Successful hot test of the System Demonstration Model (SDM) of Gaganyaan Service Module Propulsion System:

https://www.isro.gov.in/update/28-aug-2021/successful-hot-test-of-gaganyaan-service-module-propulsion-system-%E2%80%93-system

Meanwhile, Spacesuits are being supplied by the Zevezda a Russian Company, erstwhile USSR Factory No. 918, known for its deisgn, development and production of portable life support system of aircraft, spacecraft crew, space toilet design, as well as ejection seat. They are famous for designing the Spacesuit of Yuri Alekseyevich Gagarin (Yuri Gagarin) first known astronaut of Modern Human History.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/gaganyaan-mission-iaf-pilots-to-return-to-russia-for-customised-spacesuit-development/ar-AANTEW2?ocid=BingNewsSearch

https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/india-gaganyaan-mission-russia-zvezda-6589334/

Ravi said...

Prasun, thanks for your analysis which I was waiting. This is the first I learn of Pakistan fencing the Durand Line.

Amit, US is being realistic, not naive. We shouldnt have been there in the first place. O fourse, as multiple American commentators have said we needed to leave, but the way in which we went is disgraceful. Personally, I dont care how disgracefully we acted. We've left, and now I hope Washington sees the need to leave Syria, Libya, and Iraq - for starters.

Sanjay said...

Mr. Prasun
From where Americans conducting drone strikes in Afghanistan CARs or Pakistan?

Sanjay

DAshu said...

https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1432480091695509512
https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1432456313359929346/photo/1

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To RAGHU: It is in sync & has to be so. If not, all neighbouring countries will be staring at huge influx of Afghan refugees due to acute food scarcity & lack of public utilities. I will upload the concluding portions of this thread later today, which will provide further insights into the future course of events.

To AMIT BISWAS: That’s total BAKWAAS. In reality, the Taliban as the new rules now have access to the entire national database of Afghanistan citizenry, nuch much more than that new-report is maliciously claiming.

To JOYDEEP GHOSH: LoLz! Looks like you’ve totally lapped up all that’s being belched out by the ‘desi’ print, broadcast & electronic media. You are singularly forgetting that today’s Taliban leadership hailing from Kandahar are the descendants of Kandaharis of the Chanakya/Kautilya era & if you were to read Arthashastra, you will discover that the Taliban has employed the same stratagem as Kautilya when enforcing regime change. Unfortunately in India, no one pays heed to India’s recorded ancient history & consequently no lessons are learnt & no related critical thinking develops. I know of many such former military officers & one of them keeps claiming that the world’s oldest navy is from either Portugal or Spain!!! He doesn’t even have a clue about the navies of either the Cholas or the Vijayanagara Empire!!!

BTW, I hope you are aware that Chanakya's era was in 1516 BCE during Chandragupta Maurya, and not 323 BCE, when Alexander fought & lost against Emperor Samudragupta--a factoid that is still not taught in Indian schools!


To SUMANTA NAG: That’s because Prof Hoodbhoy has not understood at all the psyche of the Kandaharis. Today’s Taliban leadership hailing from Kandahar are the descendants of Kandaharis of the Chanakya/Kautilya era & if you were to read Arthashastra, you will discover that the Taliban has employed the same stratagem as Kautilya when enforcing regime change. I will upload portions of that narrative above later today. And any Shia Muslim killed anywhere in the world will antagonise Iran. As for Gaganyaan, it is an excellent example of “Russia Pe Nirbhar Bharat”.

To SANJAY: LoLz! From the Pakistan Army’s Tarbela Ghazi air base: 33 59 1.34 N, 72 36 32.51 E

To DASHU: None of them will last beyond a year, since lack of product support & stoppages of ammunition supplies will render them useless. What also intrigues me is to see some internally-displaced Kashmiri Pandits now residing all over India go overboard in portraying the Afghan Taliban as 'merciless Islamists' in an attempt to equate them with the Muslim extremists of the Kashmir Valley & Pakistan. I often wonder why these 'Pandits' never show such zeal in pressurising the Govt of India to strictly regulate the Friday afternoon Khutbaas in the mosques of the Kashmir Valley, or pressurising the Govt of India to re-open the Valley's cineplexes.

Just_curious said...

Prasun, it's a bit incomprehensible that US and its allies would leave a trillion dollar booty for the Chinese as a parting gift esp when rare metals are the new gold ..is that a fake report to lure the Chinese/Russians into the muck??? Or what is the US planning??

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Taliban Interview on Doha TV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El6IorCzzKI

Taliban Reveals Shape of Future Govt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8cR87H0KGg

ARMY-2021 Expo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7GdCYyWemU

In present times the Indian Navy's Historical Section only reminisces about 1971 & has not yet even reached 1987! No one from the MoD's Dept of Defence Production even bothers to commission 1-hour documentaries on how India's shipyards have built submarines or surface warships & what goes into their construction! Contrast that with this UK documentary on how the Royal Navy's Type 45 destroyers were built:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5zXnrAgpl0

To JUST_CURIOUS: That is a popular/widespread misconception. That's because China had long ago concluded that for successfully exploiting such mineral resources, a vast network of railroads & roadways & mineral processing facilities will be reqd to be set up--a process that can take more than a decade. And that's why from 2011 when it won the Aynak Copper mine extraction concession, till today, China has been unable to operationalise that project.

JOYDEEP SIRCAR said...

Chanakya dates back to 1523 BCE? Amazing ! Any documentary substantiation for this assertion?

Sanjeev said...

Hi Prasunda
1. Its been reported that govt has given final clearance for 2 regiments of Akash-1S and 25 ALH for LAC. Is this true?
2. Also reading that Ghatak has conducted low and high speed taxi trails. Is that true?
Thanks!

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To JOYDEEP SIRCAR: I've got plenty of substantiation & here they are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4GtfOWZWQ&t=20s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce_Kr-0PwoU&t=110s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHQwv-ubmF0&t=4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6UtyNvjx-Y&t=10s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhAN0WNMHsc&t=6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7EO-YRClHw&t=2s

To SANJEEV: 1) One does not need any governmental authorisation for redeployment of such assets. 2) If that was true, then the DRDO's Twitter account would have announced it. Moreover, it would also have revealed what its powerplant was. It certainly cannot be the Kaveri, since CEMILAC has not yet given that turbofan any airowrthiness certification.

Sidharth said...

Prasun da,

Your reply to Joydeep Sircar on the substantiation for Chanakya's (aka Kautilya or Vishnugupta) existence in 1523 BCE. Also, you have provided documentary videos supporting the claim.

However, what we all Indians have been taught by our Indian History books (written and verified by historians - mostly leftist) is that Chanakya existed during the Mauryan empire period somewhere around 350-275 BCE.

If I consider your claim is true, then most of the History taught in our schools and colleges are the customized and fabricated ones - suited to the leftist ideology - means fake history.

Sidharth said...

Prasun da,

https://idrw.org/kalyani-truck-mounted-155-mm-39-caliber-ulh-ready-for-army-trials/

155 mm / 52 caliber is needed instead?

Sanjay said...

Mr.Prasun

https://youtu.be/maeamAhnJ7Q
Najam Sethi either unaware or lying?

https://youtu.be/v3QNH81hwmA
Christine Fair's fear coming true U.S again getting beholden to Pakistan.

Thank you
Sanjay

Anonymous said...

Sirji,

For some people Indian history starts with the mughuls and for some it only starts after 1947. No doubt gupta empire, maurya empire are not taught. Arthashastra mentions a true king should always follow his dharma but that is something our leader have failed to do.

I have also read Chanakya was a classical economist ? How true is that ? Golden age
of India happened because of a liberal economy and society ? Maybe our socialist leaders need to learn from history.

-Bhvk

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SIDHARTH: LoLz! Indeed all historical narratives now being taught are those composed by colonial-era Anglo-Saxon Caucasians. That's why such narratives found on Indian textbooks always describe events & do not go into the dating of such events at all. Only over the past 2 decades have certain French & German Indologists have come forward to correct such false narratives. Even ISRO's research on the flow of the ancient Saraswati River have not yet made it into Indian textbooks! While the term 'Arya' in Sanskrit means someone who is revered due to his/her superior knowledge & wisdom, the Anglo-Saxon historians turned this upside-down by referring to the Aryans as a distinct separate race of humans & the post-independence Indian historians still continue to peddle such falsehoods!!!

Kalyani Group's 155mm/39-cal MGS mounted a BEML 4 x 4 was shown at the DEFEXPO-2018 expo in Chennai & it will be ideal for application in HAA.

To SANJAY: 1) That chap has had an axe to grind ever since he failed to organise the Pakistani Cricket team's tour of India a few years back. 2) Not quite. On the other hand, chances of the US aiding India to physically recover Gilgit-Baltistan by military means have now increased more than ever. Sooner than later, the US will drag India by the latter's nose & ears & make India undertake such a military campaign for the sake of securing access to Afghanistan through the Wakhan Corridor. That's the only option now left on the table.

And, as predicted, this has happened:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-HqxApVgAQUOMF?format=jpg&name=large

Aakhir mein, caravan seedhi patri mein aa hi gayi, as I had suggested in my roadmap!

Sanjay said...

Thanks Mr.Prasun
I was also delighted when I saw the breaking news about India Talking to Taliban's Sheru in Doha.

India must put its national interests first not the U.Ss.
Mr.Dmitry Trenin on The Print said India is underperforming as a geopolitical player.
India must rectify it.

Sanjay

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

1) In the previous thread, you asked me what made me speculate India's nuclear forces were growing slowly. Is this not the correct conclusion, when there is no evidence of any MIRVed A5/A6 tests so far ?

2) With no MIRVed missile even tested so far by India, how can one hope to reach the required several hundred warheads in the next 5-10 years, when K6 SLBMs being deployed is something that is beyond that time frame ?

3) Wo'nt the more prudent policy be to focus on land based mobile MIRVed A5/A6 that is is easier to operationalize than SLBM, deploying this in numbers over the next 5-6 years, while working on the SLBM, finally drawing down on land based missiles as SLBMs/SSBNs become operational ?

Satyaki

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

Prasun Da, Yes, I do agree on the stratagem , that what has been applied and what had been applied in Past by Chanakya the Great, after securing Magadha, as narrated by Vishakhdatta, in Mudra Rakshas. For, those, in Indian Media, who are hailing the Punjsir Resistance, it is nothing but a hard bargain is going, as reality shows, for which Amirulla Saleh and Junior Masood are well aware of, as do all other countries.

Regarding your reply to Joydeep Sircar and Siddharth, I must inform I do come across and came across so called well established, polished, educated at the same time brain dead & washed, dumb witted personalities in between my relatives as well as in internet in both side, i.e. 'Hindutwa badis' and 'Left Liberals', affectionately termed (by each others) as 'Bhakts/Sanghis' and 'Liberandu' (Liberal + Gandu (a Slang meaning Asshole in Bengali)), please pardon my language, Dada. Anglo Saxon molding has taken place and same is so deep rooted, that word गौ means only cow to them. Also, uncanny similarity in both of them , is to launch, brutal savage personal attack on any nay sayers or who tries to counter them, with logic and proof. This is just an instance, and I chose not to delve in to the much larger historical factoids.

Colonial hangover is so obsessive, that we tend to write our surnames (forget name of the historical places)till date, in enslaved mindset with attention to its Anglo Saxon pronunciation as such, Chattopadhyay becomes Chatterjee, Bandyopadhay becomes Banerjee, Sarkar becomes Sircar etc. etc. and etc.. circus goes on.

Anyways, I do agree on India's dependence on Russia on is HSF (Human Space Flight) Mission, though the Chinese had venture into the same field from 1970s, even launching their recoverable Satellite (Capsule ?) in 1975, only succeeded in 2003, with Shenjhou - I having resemblance with Soyuz. Interestingly their human spaceflight gained traction immediately after collapse of USSR. So, it was writing on the wall for ISRO ?

Kindly share your views.

Raghu said...

Hi Prasun

Well, at least on the the Durand line issue, the Taliban seems to agree with the previous govt. It's not a closed issue for them. The following link provides more details.

https://m.timesofindia.com/world/south-asia/taliban-consider-governance-models-oppose-pakistan-fence-on-durand-line/amp_articleshow/85779590.cms

Regards

Raghu

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

I should have wrote 'Magadh' in place of 'Magadha'.

BTW, Chinese also had their pre launch training in Russia.

Also, the countries representing Developed world, chose not to invest to start from scratch, but to use existing facilities of the two countries, i.e
the USA and Russia. ISRO's HSF only took shape in 2000's .

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To RAGHU, DASHU ET AL: I have uploaded the concluding part of the assessment above.

To SANJAY: What Afghanistan desperately needs now is a line of credit to the tune of US$50 million for purchasing perishable commodities like wheat, rice, tea & sugar. And India is the only country that can despatch such items ASAP & fastest, both by air & by sea via Kandla Port to Chabahar Port. At the same time, a Charge d'Affaires needs to be sent to the Indian Embassy in Kabul to establish a functional relationship with the authorities in Kabul. Since a Govt has not yet been formed, there's no need to send any Ambassador, who will be reqd as per custom & law to present his/her credentials to the country's President at a later date. Even at the functional level India can use her soft power to achieve a lot since she is the only neighbour with the reqd capacity for responding to HADR reqmts, like supplying COVID-19 vaccines as well. Therefore, all said & done, this can become India's crowning glory PROVIDED she takes carefully calibrated & synchronised steps.

To SATYAKI: There is nothing to worry about since the Agni-P will soon be tested with MIRVed warheads. It is also noteworthy that the Indian SFC has agreed to a roadmap under which maximum commonality will be ensured between the definitive ICBMs & SLBMs & hence all R & D work must be focussed on the SLBM as it is the more complex of the two types of ballistic missiles.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

US Damaged All Its Aircraft Before Leaving Kabul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTLR9llWvyA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ4itIHTSqg&t=6s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8gz3V8uQ60

Anthrax Outbreak in China: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBCZ8WgjPM

Vasuki said...

Hello peasun da
My question is if indian forces try to capture GB Chinese 'll try to take ladakh than it will be two front scenario how india going to deal with it.My second point is if somehow india capture GB local population is highly radicalized they would surely see india as kafir invaders than india will be in same position of Soviet forces in Afghanistan . what your opinion
Thanks

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

VMT. You mean Agni-5 would be tested with MIRVs soon? Since Agni-P has a short range of 1000-2000 km only, and can therefore reach only a few targets in China.

Satyaki

joydeep ghosh said...

@prasun da

is what we can expect.

1. Afghan taliban selling its excess hitech weapons like HUMVEE, MRAPS, CHINOOKS, blackhawks to iran and Pakistan in exchange for food and other essenrtial,s

2. afghan Taliban threaten US to disclose biometric data to terrorist of Afghans who helped them 8in exchange for recognition

3. Afghan taliban sell excess weapons to other countries in exchange for dollars food, anf other essential medicine like for COVID (perhaps Qatar, turkey)

4. Afghan taliban take Iran Pak help to maintain its weapons including damaged or undamaged aircraft helicopters

5. Afghan taliban allow american/british citizen still stuck i Afghanistan and their afghan collaborators on connditioon that US refurbish everything danmaged at Kabul Airport

6. Afghan taliban threaten India with either recognize or we we destroy your projects or let them rot

So no matter if India talks to Taliban or not (talk in Doha was presumably abt rescue of Indians stuck still and afghans who want to shift to India) India is no where in the picture

thanks

Joydeep Ghosh

Raj Gupta said...

https://youtu.be/jZ4itIHTSqg
CGTN Mike present at Zabiullah Mujahid's podium.
China seems very keen.

Raj Gupta

Pratap said...

Sir, what makes you assume that US is now willing to aid India in liberating POK? Or at least GB portion of it? You are being delusional. The events of the past 2 weeks have humiliated US enough. No US administration will even think about such a step for the foreseeable future. Sleepy Joe has also said that the era of US intervention is now over. We can't rely on any kind of US support for liberation of our territory. We can only achieve it by our own strength. But even you in one of your replies to me some months back had admitted that we India doesn't have overwhelming military superiority to liberate POK. Then what is the calculation behind your prediction?

Praksh said...

https://youtu.be/uJzJ0ZjHFq0

At 41:40 he talks about the threat to Pak Nukes being over since a long time ago.
Which time so he talking about 1990's to?

Thanks

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To VASUKI: Kindly rest assured that if the PLA can’t even acknowledge the deaths of its soldiers in the Galwan River-Valley, then it will never have the stomach to hide the far higher number of battle casualties that it will suffer at India's hands’in a high-intensity limited war scenario. GB’s population is overwhelmingly Shia & it will abide by the dictats of Teheran, not Pakistan’s or Afghanistan’s.

To SATYAKI: No, the testing of MIRVed warheads will commence with the Agni-P. Only after that will the Agni-5 with MIRVed warheads be tested.

To JOYDEEP GHOSH: 1) No Chinooks were left behind in Afghanistan. Only a solitary USMC CH-46E Sea Knight was left behind. Selling such hardware is futile because without spares support such platforms will be useless after a month of usage. 2) Biometric data is useful only in countries that obtain them for their own identity authentication purposes. Such data is useless outside the country that obtained such biometric data. 3) Both Qatar & Turkey already have such weapons & don’t need them. Only LeT & JeM will require them. 4) None of the aircraft & helicopters left behind are used by either Iran or Pakistan. Both will not touch the Mi-171s for fear of offending Russia. 5) In turtn the US will make sure that even humanitarian aid to Afghanistan is denied & in a month’s time Afghanistan will run out of food supplies. 6) If the Taliban destroy the India-built dams then the local Afghan villagers themselves will revolt against the Taliban since this will deny the villagers their existing agrarian lifestyles. Hence the Taliban will never ever destroy any infrastructure that has already been built by India.

Therefore, in conclusion, you are cruising at forbidding heights/altitudes & hence all such flights of fancy are clouding your mind. You need to reduce altitude & come closer to the ground in order to observe the ground realities & then make the necessary inferences/conclusions.

To RAJ GUPTA: Pakistani assessments of what’s going on inside Afghanistan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJzJ0ZjHFq0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFJzIng5vqo

Destroyed US-Supplied Aircraft in Kabul:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbcG5KAX3mE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJmDV1Qkpk0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTKcz3NzxyQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTLR9llWvyA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_704tqmZns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXG8zj6G9vw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhZdV2s2FVQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1-bvSe7A9Q

Qatari Civilian C-17A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hysI2TOoBNo

To PRATAP: I never said that the US would aid India. What I had said was that the US will take part in such a campaign & will at the same time force India to participate in such a campaign that India’s armed forces always wanted to undertake, but were repeatedly stooped by the country’s ‘netas’ in both mid-1991 & early 2002. Public anger against Pakistan is now at an all-time high & if President Biden wants to regain popularity, then he will have no other choice but to embark upon another military campaign that will be limited to northern Afghanistan. Russia too will not object if such a limited campaign is undertaken. For warfare in the highlands of Afghanistan, it is vertical envelopment that works best & hence the IA will require helilift support in a big way from the US. Kindly read this:

https://www.pogo.org/analysis/2021/05/the-key-reason-the-u-s-lost-in-afghanistan/

To PRAKSH: The 1999-2005 period.

To BUDDHA: A significant UFO incident that took place on July 25 & 26, 2002 on the outskirts of Washington DC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ3iFoEvmXk

RA-1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZT0GV6a3cw

Karnflakes said...

I follow US media a lot .. there is no public anger against pakistan no mention either.. maybe among Beauracrats and military leaders there is anger but not among the aam admi American.

joydeep ghosh said...

@prasun da

1. oh common in the viral video 4 chinooks were seen inside Kabul airport military side hangar.

2.. are you sayoing iran pak dont operate chinook or c130??

3. if US does arm twist India into capturing GB for access to Afghanistan through Wakhan corridor, my assessment says it will ultimayely result is Tajik, Uzbek, Jazak, Hazara dominated north, north east, west and north central afghanistan (most oil, gas, mineral reserves in these areas) with Kabul as capital to breakaway country leaving the south, south east and east afghanistan to the pashtun mdominated taliban as predominently a badland

thanks

Joydeep Ghosh

Praksh said...

Prasun da
I guess you meant mid 1999 and early 2002.

The CH-46 SEAKNIGHT everyone keeps misidentifying as CH-47 Chinooks are former USMC a/c bought by US Department of State some years ago.
There are 7 CH-46 SEAKNIGHTs abandoned by U.S in Afghanistan.

One of those helicopters could be from the same lot that participated in Operation Frequent Wind aka Fall of Saigon.

The Americans say they have those Choppers inoperable.

Thanks

Praksh

Anonymous said...

What is your view on this assesment? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcepq9fSQss

Is India's nuclear deterrence useless?

Thanks!
AMAN

Rajesh Mishra said...

If 8000 muslamic terrorists have recently entered in to the POK, then what is to be done??? Please elaborate.

Anonymous said...

sir, after a long time

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/opinion/spread-of-taliban-e2-80-99s-radical-islam-in-india-depends-on-govt-e2-80-99s-j-26k-policy/ar-AAO0ytH?ocid=BingNewsSearch

1.he says that govt has failed the post 370 crisis. wasn't the plan of govt to move with de-elimination and to separate jammu and kasmir??? cus u plz explain this plz?? though Panag ji has been precise in matters pertaining to ORBAT and, strategy and modernization i believe he is wrong this time. plz correct me if i'm wrong.

2. there has been increasing in emergency landings with Dhruv mk3 and chinook. is it human failure or mechanical/software failure??

3. will the t90 upgrade be similar as shown in this, including 2a46 m5 sm cannon???

thank you
Yogesh

just_curious said...

Prasun,

1-what game is Russia playing with the taliban? --https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/tajikistan-honours-lion-of-panjshir-ahmad-shah-massoud-after-two-decades-101630593138174.html
2- if US was doing backroom deals with the talibs , why was India sticking its nose with Ghani? naiveity or lack of options? btw now this.. http://idrw.org/isi-wants-to-know-supply-chain-of-arms-ammo-from-india-all-afghan-soldiers-under-radar/
2 - what is this archer drone. Can you share some details. what is the status of Tapas 201
3- Will naval LCA(trainer version) fly from the planned LHD's making them a light aircraft carrier? also russian 23900 LHD are 40tonners ..who is the most likely winner?
4-From which country is India most likely to buy the refurbished mine sweepers?
5- Nicky Haley says China wants bagram airport in its fight against india
6-Upcomming Putin visit- what can be expected ?
7- One scum less -http://idrw.org/syed-ali-shah-geelani-buried-within-hours-of-his-death-even-as-pakistan-scrambled-to-instigate-locals/ does this change anything? he was rendered toothless anyways..
8 http://idrw.org/pakistan-navy-inducts-first-jet-powered-long-range-maritime-patrol-aircraft/- will it have an impact on India's preparedness?
9- food rationing .. bankruptcy in motion in Sri lanka? - how much of an impact is it?
10- indo - japanese air exercise with Su fighters.. will Russia be pissed?
11- kalyani-truck-mounted-155-mm-39-caliber-ulh-- will this ever be bought by IA?

Sanjay said...

Mr.Prasun

Did India offer U.S bases in Jammu, Punjab and Gujarat after 9/11?

Thank you

Sanjay

Chanakya Chatterjee said...

Dear Joydeep

Questions 1 and 3 are the same with names of countries changed and assuming the foolhardy assumption that the Taliban has enough equipment to rule a country in conflict and then sell excess ... Wow

Question 2 assumes that the US while leaving over a period of a month left behind anything it thought wasn't at best collateral damage ... That's assuming a lot

Question 4 is weird ... Iran can't maintain its own f14s and Pakis can't maintain its own f16s, both decades old tech and they are supposed to help Taliban service today's us tech equipment ... Ha ha ha

Question 5 ... America says fuck off, we bomb the shit out of anything Taliban has even if u dare take hostages ... Forget what taking international hostages would mean to the Taliban's attempt at recognition

6. Why would even a half brained talibani destroy a project made by india for them as in Afghans and things like roads and dams ... Even Taliban needs what india has made in afganistan ... They didn't destroy them in the ear against the Ghani govt, why would they destroy it when they are in power and can make money from the projects ...

Joydeep we need to ask the MEA if we can export you to the Taliban ... Even they can't shoot themselves in the foot as well as you can ... Single handedly being in their management team you can destroy them, something USSR and USA couldn't do ... Ha ha ha


And I am. Not replying to anything you say anymore ... Just couldn't resist this one

Chanakya Chatterjee said...

Sleepy Joe began his term with AMERICA IS BACK ON THE WORLD STAGE

and in 2 months he is at

WE WONT INTERVENE


Biden seems to be a classic case of an advisor material, unfortunately leading a country

He either SHAPE UP or America will SHIP HIM OUT

Atleast Trump was decisive

Chanakya Chatterjee said...

@prasun

I have just realised something ... a metaphor, hypothetical

If you are PM Modi then joydeep Ghosh is Rahul G. ... By opposing your viewpoints he makes them more acceptable

Lol

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

Paxtan has made full use of it's limited strategic options. Everybody is on the verge of officially acknowledging that the Taliban, Haqqani Network aren't a subsidary military-terrorist arm of PakFauj/ISI along with ISKP/Daesh, LeT, JeM, HuM, etc. (which is the simple truth) but that the Taliban are Freedom Fighters who liberated Afghanistan & are also now engaged in fighting off ISKP/Daesh/Al Qaeda and need international support, recognition & importantly the opening up of financial assistance in various forms to ensure viability of Afghanistan which is now truly AfPak if not a province of Paxtan, albeit recently taken over. Forget PRC, Russia, Iran & Qatar, the US, leading the West, too is preparing the ground for eventual recognition with unfreezing of frozen funds as well as huge financial assistance to Afghanistan & Paxtan too.

Are Afghanistan & Paxtan strategically so important that they have to be propped up & supported by the world, inspite of their being militarily aggressive, inhuman & regressive cultures?

India too has few options as it has to get back into Afghanistan & more so the Central Asian Republics for obvious reasons, but it does seem our strategic position here is bad & a secure free North South Transport Corridor isn't happening without Paxtani establishment co-operation. Our limited military capabilities & political timidity make it so.

Is it not feasible to ignore this area for a few years & let them settle it on their own? Ofcourse, the matter of Kashmir & Ladakh means that India is geo-strategically a part of this, though from a disadvantaged position.

What India could have done differently over the last seven decades should make interesting reading on lost opportunities, but what can India do differently from now on is more important! Is Indian economic revival & geo-strategic security so dependent on a peaceful NTSC? Can't we ignore this area & just secure our territory?

(Again loss of our claimed territories, PoK/Aksai Chin, no control or say on use of rivers originating in Tibet & traditional extra-territorial rights in Tibet & Eastern Turkestan decades ago make that difficult though not immediately relevant.)

Not having a strategic culture & territorial awareness coupled with inward looking political elections every five years serve to make India a navel contemplating country which doesnt initiate change but is dragged into it by it's passivity. Has been true for centuries, not different from 1947 till date either!

A write-up from you would be delightful.

Thanks

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

@Joydeep Ghosh, lets assume I have made an agreement for abandoning your house, after it has become burdensome for me to maintain. At the same time, while I have to abandon the worn out appliances as well, I do posses the facility for overhaul and service of the appliances, but since you are hostile to me, do you really expect me to provide you the same service ? Or will you sell those appliances to the neighbours who simply don't have the capacity to repair the appliances without contacting me, or unable to do so, since having enmity with me. Do you want to do the same with the other assets, which have been provided by other seller, and regarding which the neighbours will have the same problem ? Will you expect the neighbours to accept those. Next if you, destroy the essential commodities or materials provided by another person to run your house and feed the family members, won't it be suicidal ? Leave the hostile persons alone, you will be thrown out by the Family members.

ভাই, তুমি কি সত্যি প্রশ্ন করার জন্য প্রশ্ন কর ? (Bro do you really question for the sake of questioning only ?)

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To KARNFLAKES: The ‘Aam Aadmi’ in the US gives a damn about what’s transpiring outside the US, or even outside his/her state. All they want for their contentment are the continuation of events like the NBA League, Major League Baseball, NASCAR & Indi-500. But within the intelligentsia & administration, institutional anger against Pakistan is growing & is coming out in the open like never before, as evidenced by this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_doyGIKFUKQ&t=268s

To JOYDEEP GHOSH: Those are NOT CH-47 Chinooks, but 4 of the seven CH-46E Sea Knights that the US Embassy had kept in Kabul for emergency evacuations. USMC never uses Chinooks. They use only Sea Knights & CH-53 Sea Stallions. That’s why I had advise you to descend from the stratosphere so that your focal length can be optimised. The cockpit instrumentation & powerplant for each variant of the C-130 differs & hence those on C-130D/Es of either Iran or Pakistan will be totally different from those on Afghan C-130Hs. Pakistan does not operate any Chinooks, while Iran operates only CH-47Cs. Only the Afghan Mi-17s can be made airworthy by Turkish Aeronautical Association and Ukrspecexport, which recently teamed up for providing depot-level maintenance & repair services for the 18 Mi-17 helicopters currently in use by Turkey’s Gendarmerie force. Depot-level maintenance and repairs for each Mi-17 costs about $2.5 million. Refurbished engine tests will be carried out in Ukraine by Motor Sich.

So, as I had repeatedly stated, the devil always lurks within the detail & since you are overlooking this fact-of-life, you are subjecting yourself to repeated ambushes.

To PRAKSH: Yes, it was meant to be mid-1999.

To AMAN: Nuclear deterrence works only across IBs, not WBs or LoCs or LACs. That’s why if India were to launch a military campaign aimed at recovering GB, Pakistan will not be able to use its nuclear WMDs in either Jammu or Kashmir or anywhere inside PoJK. Furthermore, how could Pakistan justify to the Muslim Ummah the usage of such WMDs against fellow Muslims?

To RAJESH MISHRA: Even if they have entered PoJK, what can they do at a time when the PA is hell-bent upon maintaining the ceasefire on both sides of the LoC? One slight misadventure on the PA’s part will result in the ceasefire’s breakdown/termination & this will put the PA under severe strain since it will now have to deal with a hot two-front engagement to its east & west that it can ill-afford. Hence, Pakistan’s reaction to the death of S A S Gilani was extremely muted. For me, the far greater worrisome issue is about some Indian Kashmiri Pandits hailing Gilani as a man of tall stature, like this one & that too on a Pakistani TV channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jy2QpbKEUQ

And as of now, no one from his community has called him out for his apologist utterances! The Kashmiri non-Muslims & Muslims alike must condemn his statements in one voice, just like Naseeruddin Shah has come out in the open against those Indian imbeciles who are glorifying the Taliban.

To YOGESH: 1) He is totally wrong in his assessment, because he forgets to analyse the methodologies applied by the Central Asian Republics is quelling religiosity-inspired extremism. All that they have done is regulate the weekly Friday afternoon Khutbaas given at each Mosque. Consequently, narratives derived from religiosity-inspired extremism never get disseminated. Exactly the opposite is true in India, where there are no state-mandated restrictions on the distribution of such narratives & due to this it is fairly easy to issue provocative hate speeches every week without fail throughout India. Secondly, in quantitative terms, the majority of Al Qaeda & ISIS cells within India have been busted in states like Karnataka, Tamil Nadu & Kerala, followed by UP, Bihar & Maharashtra, and not within J & K UT. 2) It is always human failure, related to faulty MRO practices of the ground-crew. 3) No, the new cannon won’t go on the T-90S.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To JUST_CURIOUS: 1) Russia isn’t playing any game, but at the same time it is determined that it will never forgive Pakistan for what it had done in the 1980s. 2) All DRDO-developed UAVs have been failed R & D ventures to date. 3) There is no N-LCA Trainer version in existence. Nor has the LCA Sport entered the developmental stage. 4) From either the US or Russia, since both of them have surplus MCMVs. 5) Not true. 6) Let’s see if the visit takes place. 7) But there are still some Kashmiri Pandits who are hailing him & that too on a Pakistani TV channel as a person of very tall stature.

Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jy2QpbKEUQ

9) The Rajapaksa dynasty is applying the axe on its own feet. 10) Not at all, because such exercises are conducted for drawing up common SOPs, and not for pitting one combat aircraft-type against another. 11) It all depends on whether or not the MoD will engage in fairplay. In case of the NADS, it became clear that the the MoD will prefer to award contracts to DPSUs like BEL.

To SANJAY: Yes.

To CHANAKYA CHATTERJEE: Why Taliban Using South Korean Uniforms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ901K-6WjY

Afghan Security Vehicles on Iran’s Road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QwMQEe5Mrk

Life in Herat Under Taliban Rule: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZa26nbHiYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xZ_3YCJ0ns

Life in Jalalabad Under Taliban Rule: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyIVnTcPr30

Taliban Parade in Kandahar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N18kJ3SmOFo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_Jug8kLTYQ

Tajikistan-Based Combatants Want to Enter Panjshir:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3NDQrJuV40

PA Moves Closer To Imran Khan After Kabul Takeover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZklD_RNiBs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG5i6cM6UaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw9AYmnAqU0

It is now crystal-clear that the new Taliban-dominated government will not include ANYONE associated with the previous govts of Hamid Karzai & Ashraf Ghani, now will any women get any ministerial berths. Hence, one can expect the international community to impose more sanctions against the new regime in Kabul, especially financial sanctions. This will result in a total financial & economic meltdown, like what Iraq had been reduced to after 1991 & until 2003. Now, if India shows sagacity & some spine, she could team up with the US, France & the UK to come up with a single integrated operational plan (SIOP) under which the conquest of Gilgit-Baltistan can be undertaken ASAP before the onset of winter in late October. Alternatively, the military campaign season can be initiated next April, thereby giving time for the US, France, the UK & India to negotiate with Russia, Tajikistan & Uzbekistan about the prospects of logistical assistance from both Tashkent & Dushanbe until the capture of GB, following which India alone will be able to offer a contiguous safe logistical pipeline between India & Afghanistan via the Wakhan Corridor. This in my view will be a true 21st manifestation of AKHAND BHARAT, i.e. India & Afghanistan may well be 2 separate countries, but in essence constitute one nation.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

I came across a ‘WhatsApp’ clip where Ajit Doval, NSA is addressing the US-India Political Action Committee (Voice of Indian Americans). In his usual vehemence borne out of hubris and nurtured over years of briefing VIPs who have little knowledge on the subject; says that irrespective of political dispensation the 325,000 Afghan National Army and Police will deliver and remain a disciplined force and uphold the constitution and democratic values of the Afghan state. Pray; please tell me; when was Afghanistan ever was a democracy by its own choice, since its remote antiquity? Never mind the answer: He further states that he had discussed with 15-20 Lt Gens of Pakistan Security Forces in the past 12 months and not one of them had subscribed to his views. They had opined that there is a mismatch between the Officers and cadre and once the ethnic loyalties come up, the army would not remain as such; as it takes considerable time to build a ‘National Army’ and it cannot happen overnight. Then he derives juvenile pleasure in saying that he does not believe them as he does not believe any Pakistanis. Indeed, it must have been very pleasing to the ears of the Indian American Community? However, those 15-20 Lt Gens of Pakistan must be having their last laugh? They gave their frank opinions and he should have taken them with all seriousness instead of dismissing them based on his ill-founded assumption.

Now, that we have been told that the WhatsApp clip is old and has been quoted out of context. Possible; it is an old clip but the fact remains that Ajit Doval was still wrong and the Pakistani Generals were right and clairvoyant on Afghanistan.

Now let us see; what are the views of the CDS on the matter? Speaking at the interactive session on 25 August 2021 with the visiting US Indo-Pacific Command Chief, he said: “we were anticipating a Taliban takeover of Afghanistan”; however, he adds that the timelines were surprising as he had expected it would be a couple of months down the line. He was frank enough to admit that he was wrong in the timelines. Now, what was our R & AW doing? What was the NTRO doing about it? What was our Defence Intelligence Agency doing? What was our Ambassador in Afghanistan and his staff were doing about it? Have we outsourced our intelligence to the US where their President was shell-shocked by the Taliban takeover? Why was our intelligence agencies not knowing the plans of the Taliban? If we had put all our eggs in ‘Ghani Basket’; we should have at the least known as to when he was fleeing the country? Why did we not know that the Ghani Regime will tell their armed forces not to resist? Have we been fooled that we are left hanging by tenuous strings in the uncertainties in Afghanistan?

Are we as a nation, doomed to retell stories of our intelligence failure in the aftermath of each war? Soon after independence, we were surprised by the Pakistani Attack in J & K in October 1947. The intelligence failure of Kargil is too vivid to be recounted. Again, in April/May 2020 there was an intelligence failure in Ladakh. Now we have done a wrong assessment in Afghanistan? Will any heads roll in the Intelligence Community?

In the recently convened Cabinet Committee on Security, in the aftermath of the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan, the CDS and the three Service Chiefs were not invited. Who among the invitees advised the committee on the emerging geo-strategic environment and its security implications, is a matter of judgment. The Nehruvian Era of not trusting the Services remains to this day! God Save Our Country!

Lt Gen G Kamath (Veteran)

Karnflakes said...

I totally get that but there is a large backlash against interventionism and the so called deep state in the US. Considering the large number of paki lobbyists there .. any secret effort to aid India could easily be leaked and blocked by public outcry .. manufactured or not.

Kapil said...

Prasun da, you sound too optimistic regarding POK. The kind of faith you are showing in Western countries especially the US forcing India to undertake such an operation is mind boggling. This is the country which claims to be a superpower and yet got defeated by a proxy force of a bankrupt state whose PM travels with a katora in both hands. As for our incompetent political leadership, you know their record better than your readers like me. We all know how much our Netas understand the military and how it can be used to gain national security objectives. Even the most loyal BJP voter won't expect the political leadership to give go ahead to such a daring task in the middle of a pandemic with the economy still far from recovering - But Netas crave for power and Modi has seen in 2019 that military can help him win votes so he might actually use them again for a limited strike sometime before 2024. Not anything more. Furthermore you are neglecting the fact that we are already in a confrontation with the CCP army along the LAC and the PA's Chinese masters can again do something nasty to keep the IA away from undertaking such a mission. With all this in mind, your assessment seems unrealistic and gives false hope to your readers. Hope I'm proven wrong.

Thanks

pm said...

Soundbites aside, has the current ruling govt. Consulted with armed forces that how such a feat can be achieved? Any planning at all.

Ranveer said...

Mr.Prasun

When you mentioned a Kashmiri Pandit praising SAS Geelani on Pak TV I was surprised but when I saw it was Kapil kak ex IAF and a Kashmiri Pandit also it seemed completely normal to me.

I remember seeing him on debates in NDTV where he always advocated a Soft approach towards the Separatists.

In those debates fellow Kashmiri Pandits did stand upto him but he didn't agree with them at all even when telling him that for the sake of the uniform he wore once he should be sane but he couldn't agree at all.

He also had uthna baithna with the separatist that's why he had such praise for them.

Thanks

VIKRAM GUHA said...

PrasunDa,

1. India and the US has signed an Air-Launched UAV co-development Project Agreement. The project is valued at more than $22 million with costs shared equally.

Please let us know what are the benefits of using these UAVs.

https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2764056/india-us-sign-air-launched-uav-co-development-project-agreement/

2. Hyderabad based Lotus Antennas and Microwave Technologies has been selected to supply 5m reflector antenna for the XR-SAM. Is the XR-SAM meant to complement the S-400?

Thank You

DAshu said...

lolz now they are rubbing on the face of the USA https://twitter.com/YusufMoeed/status/1433691445685276685

SUVO said...

Dear Prasun da, awesome article.Thanks.
There is a news in pak media that US Pak China Russia & Taliban make a group to counter ISIS-K, And a central asian country would be the base of this group. Is this true?

Unknown said...

With the coronovirus pandemic still not fully in control and hence economic recovery being a challenge, there is no compelling reason for India to conduct major offensive. India does.not share border with Afghanistan, why getting overworked when the developed countries like US dont give a shit. As such India and Indians are self depricating which reflects in their confidence and confidence of government to change the nations destiny. This problem is with you, me and prasoon too. The earlier you understand this, the wiser you will get.

Regards

Kunal

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/taliban-using-panjshir-men-as-mine-clearance-tools-committing-war-crimes-amrullah-saleh/ar-AAO4dLo?ocid=msedgntp

"Talibs have blocked humanitarian access to Panjshir, do racial profile of travelers, use military age men of Panjhsir as mine clearance tools walking them on mine fields, have shut phone, electricity & not allow medicine either. People can only carry small amount of cash. 1/2

— Amrullah Saleh (@AmrullahSaleh2) September 3, 2021"

--- So Talibs has adopted phycological warfare.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/days-after-bilateral-issue-comment-taliban-s-new-remarks-about-kashmir/ar-AAO3mWS?ocid=msedgntp

""We have this right, being Muslims, to raise our voice for Muslims in Kashmir, India, and any other country,” Taliban spokesperson Suhail Shaheen, according to Geo News. "We will raise our voice and say that Muslims are your own people, your own citizens. They are entitled to equal rights under your laws," Shaheen told in an interview with BBC Urdu, Geo News reported."

---As you have stated Talibans are gearing up for another 'Thikadar' of Musilm Umma, so if Iran is the 'Thikadar' of Shia sect, Talibs will surely don the role of Thikadar of 'Sunni' Sect, or if it can be taken that Talibans are meaning whole 'Muslim Umma', the other 'Thikadars' will not tolerate rise of another 'Thikadar' . So, water will start boil again.

http://www.businessworld.in/article/Indian-And-US-Officials-Discuss-Bilateral-Regional-Issues-Ahead-Of-2-2-Dialogue/03-09-2021-403017/

"The Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) said the two sides exchanged assessments about recent developments in South Asia, the Indo-Pacific region and the Western Indian Ocean. It said the meeting reviewed the progress made since the last 2+2 ministerial dialogue in October 2020 and preparations for it later this year."

----Third edition of 2 + 2 dialogue will going to happen, before that South Asia came up for discussion. Is India's getting back of PoJK is in the part of the discussion w.r.t. situation in Afghanistan ?

Prasun Da, please Share your views on the above.

Thanks in advance.

Satya said...

Prasun sir, everyone wants to know about the action plan for the liberation of POk but nobody is talking about the hostile population we will encounter if indeed an operation is launched for its recovery. According to Pakistan 2017 census, the so-called AJK part of POK has a population of 4 million, but till today Pakistan has not revealed anything about the demographic profile of GB. News articles give various figures from 1.5 million to 2 million. But the actual population is not known. Nonetheless all 4-6 million of them are hostile and radicaled like any other Paki Muslim. Furthermore, Pakistan has also settled outsiders like Punjabis and tribals pashtuns all over the region. They will of course begin to flee as our forces move in, especially those in the border districts. But not all of them will leave and even if are forced to take in 2-3 million of them, that's going to ruin the already unfavorable religious demographics of J&K. The best for us would be recovering the land without the dewellers. But unfortunately we can't do to them what Myanmar did to the Rohingyas. So if our civil military leadership shows spine and decide to understake this mission, how are going to deal with this mess?

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

Meanwhile, as you have stated BP of PA is getting high after Taliban securing Kabul.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/2-pakistani-army-troops-killed-in-cross-border-attack/2350134



And this should be comes as horror for the Panjabi led PA

"https://tribune.com.pk/story/2317645/ttp-matter-for-pakistan-to-resolve-not-afghanistan-taliban-spokesperson"

especially after PAK NSA has gone overdrive :

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/pak-nsa-says-west-risks-another-911-if-taliban-isnt-recognised-backtracks-later/ar-AANU3WO

https://theprint.in/world/pakistan-nsa-warns-of-second-9-11-if-west-doesnt-recognise-taliban-then-says-misquoted/724638/

At this rate Mr. Yusuf should easily give Dr. Swamy , a run for his money.

---Apart from this what's your view on the timeline for test firing of XRSAM ?

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

Events are moving fast ofcourse, but I certainly still would love a write-up or update in this very post as events sometimes conspire unexpectedly to force destiny of individuals & people in a certain inevitable direction. Cautiously Delighted, I am sure but again this time let's really Wait & Watch. The Tajiks in NRA or in Tajikistan seem ready. We do live in very interesting times. Your predictions a couple of years ago on PoK spl. G-B seems to be coming true in unexpected if not entirely desired ways.

But that is destiny & history. Either you take control of it, else you are led by the nose to it.

In this context, maybe who exactly is procuring this tranche of 70000 AK-203/103 rifles on emergency import procurement? If it's the IAF & the urgent procurement of the weaponised UAVs vide private Israel India collaboration seems interesting.

In the medium term, the Navy's go ahead both on importing existing excess MCMVs & readying for LPDs, seems that timelines are short & deficiencies are being made up.

The last bit is this agreement to develop air launched UAS with the US DoD. This seems a feasible & well thought out project since DRDO has a totally bad record on developing deployable UAVs. Is this part of or related to smart wingman program or entirely separate?

& Finally - Aapke Charan kidhar hai Prabhu?! How do you get it so right on the tea leaf reading business?! Wish India has been more proactive. It eventually gets down to what's it destined to do but when forced into it rather than by controlling it's own destiny & proactively doing it smartly in advance with better results.

Well, ww aren't a Great Power for nothing. Passives seldom are. Looking forward to your very very interesting comments & analysis Sirjee!!

Thanks & Regards

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

And FINALLY, why is Paxtan NSA Moeed so pissed off at harmless old India calling it Nazi?!

Even the Congress is as evident from offering Namaz at J&K & criticising the sullabus at military colleges.

Sanjay said...

Mr.Prasun

Even if India had given U.S bases in Jammu Punjab or Gujarat the U.S had to still secure overflight rights over Pakistan intelligence cooperation with Pakistan on Af-Pak border.

By using bases in U.S could only carry out Air supply but all equipment and personnel cannot be only delivered by Air.
A GLOC through Pakistan would have been required again.

Thank you

Sanjay

Unknown said...

https://twitter.com/hvtiaf/status/1433113672864329728?s=19
Is this not N-LCA trainer?

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To KAPIL: One of the biggest distorted narratives is about the US conceding defeat in Afghanistan. In reality, the US withdrew from Afghanistan after achieving what it had set out to do back in October 2001 & had achieved the main objectives by 2014, when the bulk of its military withdrawal was completed. Nation-building was left to the Afghan natives & it was always meant to be Afghan-driven, Afghan-led & Afghan-controlled. Since nation-building (inclusive of creating standing army, police & air force) could not be achieved, It is the Afghans who have brought all the miseries upon themselves, not the US or anyone else. In any case, I had described in great detail what were & are Afghanistan’s limitations in nation-building as a landlocked entity. One therefore cannot blame the US for all the present-ills of Afghanistan, least of all India, which since 2014 has been underperforming & punching way below her weight in Afghanistan, thereby failing to fully utilise & mobilise her comprehensive national power—a phenomenon that continues till this day.

To PM: Obviously not. All the PIB-released photos of the Cabinet Committee on National Security clearly reveal that the CDS was not invited to such deliberations.

To RANVEER: As far as I’m concerned, entities like him need to be called out & he needs to explain on what grounds he can glorify a person who was responsible for sending tens of thousands of Kashmiri youth to their deaths through his religiosity-inspired provocations & hate-speeches.

To VIKRAM GUHA: 1) LoLz! Air-Launched UAV is nothing else but the CATS WARRIOR family of ‘Loyal Wingman’ vehicles that was unveiled at this year’s Aero India expo. 2) Yes. 3) Here’s something more:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/ballistic-missile-tracking-ins-dhruv-to-join-india-s-strategic-assets-in-2021-101615886801327.html

INS Dhruv: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLajYzAexi8

The Indian Army has ordered over 100 tactical kamikaze Israeli drones, used in the Azerbaijan-Armenia conflict, to beef up its operational capability along the borders with Pakistan and China. The loitering munition ‘SkyStriker’ will be manufactured in Bengaluru by a joint venture between Israel’s Elbit System and India’s Alpha Design, which is part of the Adani Group. SkyStriker is already under production in India to meet export orders. The contract was inked on August 31, 2021 and it entails the delivery to be completed within 12 months. The SkyStriker, which is launched through an automatic pneumatic launch platform, can reach a distance of 20km in less than 10 minutes. The total range for the system is around 100km. According to Elbit, it can loiter and pursue a target for up to 2 hours with a 5kg warhead or up to 1 hour with a 10kg warhead. At maximum speed (100 Knots), SkyStriker can reach a distance of 20km within 6.5 minutes, reducing the loitering time by 15 minutes. Since SkyStriker has an electric propulsion, it makes much less sound, allowing covert operations at low altitude. According to Elbit, SkyStriker uses autonomous navigation during its cruising and loitering phases. When preparing to strike, it navigates based on its electro-optical “lock” on the target. Explaining further, it said that during the strike phase, SkyStriker can dive at extremely high speeds of up to 300 Knots and can withstand winds of up to 20 Knots.

https://elbitsystems.com/landing/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Sky-Striker.pdf

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To DASHU & KAUSTAV: That was to be expected, especially after he & his boss was rebuffed by the PA’s COAS 3 days ago at the GHQ Auditorium in Rawalpindi regarding the way forward for dealing with the J & K issue & the primacy of the Bajwa 2.0 Doctrine. Here is the revelation & explanation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZklD_RNiBs&t=33s

To SUVO: It is FAKE NEWS being peddled by those delusional Pakistanis who wish to see the emergence of a grouping of China, Russia, Pakistan, Iran & Turkey. In realty, Russia does not even need China since it already has the CSTO, which is explained here:

https://www.rferl.org/a/Rapid_Reaction_Force_Adds_Military_Dimension_To_CSTO/1379324.html

To UNKNOWN/KUNAL: India DOES share a border with Afghanistan, as proven by this official document:

https://www.mha.gov.in/sites/default/files/BMIntro-1011.pdf

To SUMANTA NAG: With each passing day, the National Resistance Front gets bigger & bigger in symbolic terms & this increases the questions about the legitimacy of the Taliban’s dominance inside Afghanistan. China will not give any financial aid, but will give only financial loans & if such loans are not repaid by Afghanistan in future, then China is likely to demand that the entire Wakhan Corridor be transferred to China’s permanent ownership. This of course will be unacceptable to both the Central Asian Republics as well as Russia, India & the US. Therefore, sooner rather than latter, something decisive has to be done in order to prevent the Wakhan Corridor from becoming a part of China.

The XR-SAM will be ready for testing by the first half of 2022.

To SATYA: I had already explained earlier & above why the indigenous populace of Gilgit-Baltistan won’t be hostile to India. Majority of them are Shias & are followers of either the Iranian Ayatollahs or Ismaili Shias pledging their allegiance to the Aga Khan. As for the settlers from Pakistan’s KPK, they can easily be driven out anytime.

To SANJAY: The combined might of the USAF & IAF could then have easily created a no-fly zone to prevent the PAF from interfering. At that time, the PAF did not possess any BVRAAMs. In addition, up until 2005 the US had a GLOC originating from Europe, transiting via Turkmenistan & then entering Afghanistan.

To UNKNOWN: N-LCA No.3001 was used only for instrumentation flight-tests & its rear-cockpit was loaded with flight-testing avionics for recording various in-flight parameters. N-LCA No.3002 was the definitive single-seater that too was reconfigured from a tandem-seater to house mission-avionics, as shown here:

https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/6/80364_1424452828.jpg

The Sanatani Bhartiya said...

Prasun,
Is this the new SSN being procured for the Indian Navy?
https://youtu.be/v8Fq5hlRAx4

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To THE INDIAN: Not at all. That is a Borey-class SSBN. The Husky will be a pure SSN with no cruise missiles of any type. India's SSNs will be the same as the Arihant-class, but minus their SLBM VLS cells.

To TECHNOLOGY, PHOTOGRAPHY & TRAVEL: Fuel Cell & Hydrogen In Transportation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT0FHt5owLw

Hydrogen Storage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gWYm0sUffA

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

Things are moving fast and disturbingly:

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/afghanistan-17-including-children-killed-41-injured-in-talibans-celebratory-firing-in-kabul-claim-reports/ar-AAO5Er2?ocid=uxbndlbing

---""Attention, Mujahidin in Kabul city and all over the country: Avoid firing in the air and give thanks to Allah instead. Weapons and ammunition are in your hands, no one has the right to waste them. Cold bullets are more likely to harm civilians; So don't shoot unnecessarily,"

1. At least 17 including Children killed 'Celebratory Firing' of 'Naya Thikadars' of Islamic Umma.




https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/afghan-woman-beaten-anti-taliban-protest-kabul-reports-1849194-2021-09-04

------"Rabia Sadat, a woman protester in Afghanistan who participated in a protest seeking rights under the Taliban rule, was allegedly beaten by the militants, according to reports."

2. 'Thikadars' now seems gearing up for their promises on Women's Right.


https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/why-taliban-had-to-postpone-government-formation-in-afghanistan-for-second-time-101630752777449.html

-----"The Taliban can form a government of their own but they are now focussing to have an administration in which all parties, groups and sections of the society have proper representation," PTI quoted Khalil Haqqani, a member of the committee tasked to negotiate talks with different groups over the government formation, as saying"

and

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/will-return-and-support-taliban-led-afghanistan-govt-if-former-afghan-minister/ar-AAO5vVm?ocid=msedgntp

-----"According to Pajhwok Afghan News agency, Khoshal Sadat held a conversation with the Taliban over his return to the country. "I have talked to the Taliban. If they respect the national anthem, the national flag, women's rights and the privacy of the people, I will return to the country, declare my support for the new government and get the Afghan Air Force and Special Forces back on their feet," he said."

----- Everybody is eager for the piece of Cake. Talibans certainly can not keep everybody happy.

3. https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/pakistan-s-intelligence-chief-faiz-hameed-arrives-in-kabul-on-taliban-s-invite/ar-AAO5QKl?ocid=msedgntp

ISI (Earth's First Government run International Terrorist Organisation) Chief arrives in Kabul. Seems significant after Taliban rebuff.




vinod said...

Sir,
your views on the following:

1. Some reports suggest that thousands of American soldiers are in Karachi(came from Afghanistan). what is their plan?

2. Do you see the same pattern of dumping of hardware by America in Vietnam, Iraq, and now Afghanistan?(getting rid of old helicopters, guns, etc.)

3. Will Taliban be able to capture Panjshir valley?

Thanks

asd said...

Dear Prasun,

1. As you have been stressing upon India getting back (not taking back) PoK, how will China react? Obviously it won't sit tight. Bcoz it has political interest in it, so it may militarily interfere. If so, is India ready for the same?

2. You told once that China will play diplomatic game so that Pakistan will hold on to PoK, so that China will fire back by saying that India's claim is flawed as it has never tried to get back PoK. In this manner, China will demand Ladakh. So what's your calculation says about future prospects of Indian political leadership? Will the Modi government, take any decisive step (as you told USA will drag India by ear and nose) against Pak and China?

3. If India is able to get back PoK including Gilgit Baltistan and able to connect with Afghanistan, then what are its implications on China? How will the relationship between India and China be affected or continued?

Unknown said...

Yes prasoon is right that on paper mha dociment does show india sharing border with afghanistan..but reality is a.little different

Regards

Kunal

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

TALE OF TWO EVACUATIONS

Niel Steyl, Captain of a four-decade-old B.727-200 that flies for Safe Air Company, an airline and charter outfit based in Kenya, answered an emergency call from the US State Department for immediate airlift assistance after a complex terrorist attack, which started with a suicide bombing, killed 13 US troops, as well as at least 170 Afghans, on August 26. At the time, Steyl, his crew, and the B.727, which carries the Kenyan registration number 5Y-IRE and is aptly nicknamed Irene, were forward-based out of neighboring Kulob, Tajikistan. In the past, they had supported what was a relatively steady drawdown of US forces in Afghanistan before the final dangerous push-out of Kabul, which fell to the Taliban on August 15. Cargo for the dangerous sortie would be hundreds of ex-Afghan special operations forces (five CIA trained & funded NDS-0 Battalions) that were being lodged in a warehouse within the confines of the airport. These troops would be top Taliban targets, but finding room on military airlifters leaving the country became a huge challenge. Hence the mercy flights by Irene. It only took just 40 minutes to load up 308 people onto the cargo-configured B.727, which would normally carry between a half and a third of that load during the type's career as an airliner. Because the soldiers and their families could not fit on a single B.727 flight, another trip would be needed. On the second trip, they had to stop all movement on the ground at Kabul and could not load and depart quickly because US forces were executing a departure ceremony for the 13 US soldiers who died during the bombing at Abbey Gate. Once cleared to load and leave, the second flight saw 329 souls packed aboard the old B.727. All of the refugees were taken back to Tajikistan where they would wait in a tent community until a further airlift arranged by the US government could move them on to locations in Ramstein, Germany once the evacuation of Kabul was complete. The passengers didn't even know where they were when they landed, they were just happy to be out of Afghanistan and away from the Taliban. While Safe Air and Irene's crew are no strangers to flying into dangerous areas in Africa, basically saving hundreds of people, entire families, from the clutches of the Taliban certainly must have been very rewarding. Still, an old B.727 loaded with over 300 people, while not having the millions of dollars worth of defensive capabilities that their military airlifter counterparts have, and flying into what is basically a war zone under extreme terrorist threat in the middle of the day, takes guts. At least 1,000 Afghan commandos and their family members were evacuated in the overall US effort.

Cont'd below...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

In the weeks leading to President Biden’s August 31 deadline to withdraw US troops from Afghanistan, a secretive and extremely safe compound utilized by the CIA grew to become a hub for clandestine evacuations earlier than components of it have been intentionally destroyed. The CIA had used a part of the compound known as Eagle Base to coach five NDS-0 Battalions on counter-terrorism techniques. Another part—the CIA’s first detention centre in Afghanistan, often known as the Salt Pit—was the place where the CIA had carried out torture on detainees. Structures in Eagle Base and the Salt Pit were quickly demolished to forestall the Taliban from seizing critical data and supplies. Even as a number of of those deliberate detonations were taking place, the heliport on the compound was nonetheless used to conduct covert evacuations. Situated between Kabul’s industrial outskirts and a mountain valley, the compound is less than 3 miles from Hamid Karzai International Airport. It spans about 2 sq. miles. The CIA first started destroying buildings on the Salt Pit all throughout April and May, after Biden’s announcement that US forces would depart by September 11. Construction of these demolished buildings started between 2002 and 2004—the years the CIA had engaged in “enhanced interrogation techniques”. More destruction occurred on August 27, the day the Pentagon stated that US forces carried out managed demolitions of their very own structures. Eagle Base was initially established in a former brick-manufacturing unit. It was later expanded into a bigger complex of newly constructed buildings. These new constructions, which incorporated an ammunition depot and an elaborate training facility, were largely destroyed on August 27. The buildings contained paperwork, computer servers & drives.

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Prasun K. Sengupta said...

As narrated by Ret'd Lt Gen Satish Nambiar:

In July 1989, after command of a Division, I was posted as Additional Director General Military Operations (ADGMO) at Army HQ. The DGMO was Lt Gen V K Singh of the Madras Regiment (a fine professional and good friend), the VCOAS was Lt Gen V K Sood (another super professional), and the COAS was Gen V N Sharma. By the time I arrived at my new assignment, the newly elected President of Sri Lanka R Premadasa had already made strident calls for the termination of the Indian presence in his country, and for the pull-out of our forces from Sri Lanka. And there was also a churn in the politics in Delhi that led to the formation of Janata Dal Government headed by PM V P Singh in early December 1989. One of its first decisions was to pull out the Indian forces from Sri Lanka without further delay.

As soon as the Govt of India’s decision was conveyed to the IA’s COAS, he directed us in the MO Directorate to immediately to put up a draft Joint Operational Instruction (JOI) for issue. We had already been working on this possibility over the previous few months in consultation with our Navy and Air Force colleagues and subordinate HQs including HQ IPKF, and were therefore able to submit a draft to the COAS within a matter of 24 hours or so. He made some marginal changes, and asked us to run it past the other two Chiefs—CAS ACM P K Mehra and CNS Admiral J G Nadkarni, who was also the Chairman Chiefs of Staff Committee, for concurrence. We worked on the suggested modifications over the next 24 hours or so, and got the JOI ready for signature and issue. I was given the dubious privilege of getting it signed by the three service chiefs. Took it first to Gen Sharma, who had a quick glance, signed it, and gave it to me with instructions that it should be sent off the next morning. By the time I got the CAS’ signature it was well past normal working hours, and Admiral Nadkarni had gone home. On getting back to the Directorate, I received a query from the COAS’ Secretariat whether I had obtained the signatures. I walked across to the COAS’ office and got the usual blast when I informed him that I had yet to get the signature of the CNS, the Chairman Chiefs of Staff Committee. “I do not care how you manage it but I want the Operational Instruction out tomorrow” or words to that effect, was the missive thrown at me.

Cont'd below...

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

It was common knowledge that Admiral Nadkarni was a golf enthusiast who was out on the Army Golf Course every morning. Being a sort of golfer myself I had often seen him on the Course. I therefore set off the next morning (a Sunday I think it was) with copies of the JOI in a folder tucked under my arm, and landed up at the Golf Course to catch the Admiral and his playing partners in the Breakfast Room as he walked in after completion of the first nine holes. On seeing me the Admiral enquired, “Satish, what brings you here”. I apprised him that I was there to get his signatures on the JOI for the pull-out from Sri Lanka that was to be sent out that morning. With a twinkle in his eye, he reached out for the folder I was carrying and the pen I proffered, signed the papers, and handed them back to me with a remark I shall always remember–“Here you are Satish. This is probably the first and only Military Operational Instruction to have been signed on a Golf Course. We are creating history”. Thanked him with a smart salute and was soon back at the Directorate in South Block, where my colleagues were waiting to place the papers in appropriate envelopes duly addressed and sealed, to pass it on to the couriers who were standing by to deliver them to the intended recipients.

So let us be quite clear. The pull-out from Sri Lanka was a properly organised and executed military operation. It is another matter that it was possibly implemented under an unpleasant set of political circumstances, and that the State Govt authorities in Chennai (to their eternal shame I may add) did not consider it appropriate to accord our returning forces a proper welcome home. Having warmed up, I am inclined to say a few words about our then COAS Gen V N Sharma. In my view, like Gen T N Raina, he was a largely ‘under-acknowledged’ COAS. While he may not have had the charisma exuded by Chiefs like Thimmaya and Manekshaw, or the ability to impress like his immediate predecessor Sundarji, the abiding truth is that he steered the IA through a very trying period during his tenure from mid-1988 to mid-1990. The para-borne intervention OP Cactus in support of the Maldives government in early November 1988 was a classic, well-executed operation that is attributable to his stewardship. His handling of the concern caused by the large-scale mobilisation of Pakistani forces for EX Zarb-e-Momin under the shadow of the turmoil in the Punjab in the aftermath of OP Blue Star was most commendable. As was his handling of the upsurge of insurgency in the Kashmir Valley in the wake of the abject capitulation of the Indian political establishment after the Union Home Minister’s daughter was taken hostage by a group of militants. There were also the rumblings by ULFA in Assam. And of course the commitment in Sri Lanka, and the subsequent pull-out of our forces from there. Notwithstanding the fact that I was often at the receiving end of some of his tantrums and biting comments, I developed a healthy regard for his capacity for decision-making under the trying circumstances he had to contend with. But what struck me most and drew my admiration in full measure, was the fact that he was one of the few Army Chiefs who maintained the dignity of that high office in full measure. Whether it was in briefing the political leadership with PMs Rajiv Gandhi or V P Singh in the Operations Room at Army HQ, or interacting with Chief Minister Karunanidhi in Chennai, he always clearly stated what they needed to be apprised about, and not what they would have liked to hear. And of course, he never allowed the civilian bureaucracy to meddle in the affairs of the establishment of which he was the Head.

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Prasun K. Sengupta said...

And finally, a tribute to the family he was part of. Three sons of Major General Amar Nath Sharma. The eldest, Major Somnath Sharma; killed in action on November 3, 1947 at the age of 24 at Badgam on the outskirts of Srinagar, the first recipient of the Param Vir Chakra. The second, Lt Gen S N Sharma, rose to become an outstanding Engineer-in-Chief of the IA; someone I did not know while in service, but had the good fortune of getting to know well and receiving affectionate guidance from, when I was the Director of the United Service Institution of India. And of course Gen V N Sharma, who I had the great honour and privilege of serving with. What a family! I do not think there are too many other families in this great country of ours that can match such commitment, dedication and devotion to duty.

Sanjay said...

Mr. Prasun

But Eventually it was the U.S
who provided the BVRAAM to Pakistan and it altered the Balance of Power in favour of Pakistan because our R-77 isn't capable as the AIM-120C5 which the PAF got with 18 new F-16 C/D Blk 52.

Our Rafales are still aren't ready for Air-Air combat. It would take few years before the Tactics, Training and Procedures are developed for effective employment of Rafales in Air-Air Combat.

Thank you

Sanjay

Sidharth said...

Prasun da,

https://twitter.com/PravinSawhney/status/1417837252579794946

Why this guy is making 90-degree salam to China

SUVO said...

Thank you Sir for the reply.
What is the reason behind the presence of DG ISI Gen Faiz in Kabul? Is the total administration will run by the isi in afganistan?
Why all supported Taliban but no country including India not supported Northern resistance movement in Panjshir?It is now reported that pakistan army with their tank & helicopter gun ship deployed against Panjashiris.

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

Obviously, it's Paxtan which has run an excellent Operation due to which Afghanistan is now a province of Paxtan or at best AfPak. The Resistance can continue to jockey for position or better deals but will need direct military support from Tajikstan & indirect support from others to exist now.

Generally speaking, it was a difficult night. War is fought on logistics. Taliban just don't have better logistics, but also better intelligence. Someone is providing them with constant images of the gaps in our line's. Someone with satellites! It's not just the Taliban they are fighting.

The nationalist Afghan, an urban minority, holds the view that For decades, the prominent narrative on western media has been that the war in Afghanistan is a conflict between tribes and ethnicities, that’s a flawed narrative. Afghanistan is under a direct Pakistani invasion, a view shared by most discerning & neutral international observers

With the US's Exit, Pakistan Army's Grip on Afghanistan Is Now Complete - https://m.thewire.in/article/south-asia/with-the-uss-exit-pakistan-armys-grip-on-afghanistan-is-now-complete

Meanwhile Pakistan seizes chance to be the West's US & Europe’s best buddy in Afghan crisis https://www.politico.eu/article/afghanistan-pakistan-europe-crisis-refugees-trade/

Ofcourse those opposed to Taliban AND PAXTAN are right & as pointed out in this following quote by H. Haqqani

Critics of Taliban appeasement have so far been right about (1) They won’t share power (2) They’ll go for military victory (3) They’ll be vindictive, won’t change core beliefs, & will violate human rights (4) Won’t break with Al-Qaeda & other terrorists (5) Will embrace China

joydeep ghosh said...

@prasun da

Your views on this https://youtu.be/QWtB3kVAz8s

Can we talk to duo or even trust them

Thanks
Joydeep ghosh

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SANJAY: Again, all talk about R-77 being inferior to AIM-120C-5 is pure hogwash & totally untrue. The former has 80km-range while the latter has 70km-range. Where the IAF went wrong on February 27, 2019 was in the adoption of the WRONG rules of engagement, i.e. the IAF should have deployed just 1 Battery of Barak-8 MR-SAMs in northern Jammu & that alone would have brought down a few Mirage-IIIEPs & JF-17s.

To SIDHARTH: I can’t be expected to read his mind & speak on his behalf. You will have to ask him for his justifications. What I can say is that India has successfully called off China’s military bluff & has nullified China’s coercive diplomacy. In military terms, it is a given that a country whose annual spending on internal security is far higher than its annual military spending, just cannot undertake any type of decisive military campaign. On top of that, the one-child policy has ensured that the PLA will never be able to sustain the kind of battlefield casualties that emerge from any high-intensity conventional military campaign.

To SUVO: Why is the DG-ISI in Kabul? This is the official reason being peddled as disinformation by this ISI-sponsored Lady Journalist operating from Kabul:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqeRpTgMz3A&t=37s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPR_R9eUZcA&t=25s

But this is the real reason (i.e. increasing economic woes & financial meltdown):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLGGKVlVsJM&t=6s

Afghans Switch to Iranian Currency: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk5xHZulOrc

Pakistan ke Liye Bahut Mushkil Halaat Aane Waale Hain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWYfszZcZLE

Since yesterday evening, efforts have accelerated for extending direct military assistance to the National Resistance Front in Panjshir Valley. New Delhi, Teheran, London, Paris & Washington DC were urgently consulting one another for this very purpose. The coming days will reveal some of the decisive decisions that are now being finalised.

Primers on Tajikistan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9I_oe5CNIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSXD9ajqyEI&t=230s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjpEPG4fZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDMO2gvv6SA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWWQOAX_gIE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIZQkYigClo

I wish we had leaders like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rn-wniVtss

A far better option that the ‘Mann ki Baat’ sermonising!

Meanwhile, the ‘desi patrakaars’ at it once again by spreading rumours. In reality, the Indian Army has awarded Bengaluru-based startup Newspace Research & Technologies a US$15 million contract to supply 2 fleets of 50 Swarm Drones each (comprising hexacopters & quadcopters), plus 48 medium-altitude logistics hexacopters. Additionally, the Indian Army has ordered 100 SkyStriker tactical loitering killer-drones, which will be licence-built in Bengaluru by a joint venture between Israel’s Elbit System and India’s Alpha Design, which is part of the Adani Group.

3-D Printed Working Turbofan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfItARqZUfU

Just_curious said...

Prasun,
Tend to agree with Sanjay's comments, nl news about 69 US congressman asking Biden admin to 'ensure that nukes don't fall into talib hands' is a clearest ask to throw money at pakis..Pakis seems to be baking the cake and getting to eat it too.. the ISI chiefs visit and the immediate postponement of govt formation by talibs.. Pakis sending the clearest msg of who controls the afghan lever... question is who will pour the money... It's a classic prostitution racket ..Pakis love being the pimp....

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

https://isis-online.org/isis-reports/mobile/potential-nuclear-weapons-related-military-area-in-baluchistan-pakistan

VIKRAM GUHA said...

PrasunDa,

(1) Regarding the LPD/LHD RFI that Indian Navy has released is it true that Russia has offered a LPD/LHD alongwith the naval Ka 52?

(2) Do you see this LPD deal moving forward either in terms of a lease or outright purchase?

(3) Which companies are best placed to provide LPD on lease immediately because the RFI states that within 10 months from the signing of the contract the first LPD should arrive in India.

(4) Will it be possible to split Afghanistan into two, where Pashtuns will have their country and the rest will have their own?

As ever, thank you.

SUVO said...

Thank you very much Sir for reply.

Praksh said...

Prasun da

Do you mean to say that the ALUAV agreement b/w ADE and AFRL is for CATS if that's the case it would mean CATS program can be a reality.

But it seems a very small agreement to me and non-defense applications have been highlighted more.

Could you clarify?

Thanks

just_curious said...

Prasun,
one more Akula to be leased- Chakra 4?? can you share if its true? if yes, which akula ?

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

"https://twitter.com/PravinSawhney/status/1417837252579794946

Why this guy is making 90-degree salam to China"

------- @ Sidharth I don't know exactly, about Mr. Sawhaney, but this might be case for the others:

https://defence.capital/2021/09/04/law-and-society-alliance-study-report-exposes-communist-chinas-overt-covert-influence-operations-in-india/

"The 76-page study report enumerates the covert and overt influence operations carried out the Communist Party of China (CCP), led by Xi Jinping, in cultivating, funding, and sponsoring institutions including the media and individual opinion-makers."

Please check this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogo4UAVVWWg

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

IA Live Fire Exercise at LAC of 105 mm Field Gun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjrdarOAXkQ

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

3 FC (FROINTIER CORPS) Soldiers killed in latest suicide attack by the TTP.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/3-killed-20-injured-in-suicide-blast-near-pakistan-and-afghan-border/ar-AAO7jyQ?ocid=msedgntp


Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

1) Is'nt the order of 100 swarm drones in 2 fleets too small for it to give an advantage when it comes to carrying out strikes across the LC ?

2) With no route to Tajiskistan in the resistance's control, and without the backing of Russia and Iran, is it not a matter of time before the resistance holed out in Panjshir collapses ? The Taliban seem to have taken control of parts of Panjshir even as I write this.

Satyaki

Sanjay said...

Mr.Prasun

The SAM systems are now in Place I think?

Thank you

Sanjay

Satya said...

Sir, your reply to @Sanjay regarding the events of Feb 27 sound a bit defeatist. Yes it would have been fabulous if we had deployed the Barak-8 and no doubt it would have knocked down many paki aircrafts, but the thing is we don't have to rely solely on our air defence missile systems to take on the PAF. Russians rely on powerful SAMs because their fighters are not as good as the West. But we do that face that problem. We had superior aircrafts like Su-30 MKIs on that day and yet we suffered a set back. PAF secured victory by successfully hiding downing of F-16 and managed to pull off a face saving mission. Inside they know what transpired that day. But we failed to humiliate them before their masses and that's a victory for them. Even during Balakot IAF should have used powerful bombs to flatten the place altogether to live no doubt in anybody's mind, but they irked. Everyone including the IAF chief was cheering that we have achieved superiority over PAF after Rafales landed in India as if IAF were an interior force prior to that. It's very problematic for me.

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

Reports of active Pakistan Army special forces and Pakistan Air Force direct involvement in #Panjshir. Weapons used today are not known to the Taliban or NRF! The report claims!

In a way in a most idi0t move Pak officials has done something openly which has to be done covertly

Dr. C. Christine Fair gets fobbed off by the BBC, Amreeki troops in Paxtan. Are you so sure that Paxtan doesn't have tacit support of the US to help Taliban unify & stabilise Paxtan?!

SUVO said...

Prasun da,
Pakistan done airstrike in Panjshir.And Amrullah & Massud got captured. Is it a fake news?

pm said...

https://youtu.be/Yh3suE4tuL0

Sir What do you think of this idea, should India emulate the same concept

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ASD/SOUBHAGYA: 1) China will at best only make some threatening postures, but will go no further due to its own systemic & institutional limitations that I had explained yesterday. 2) So far I have not seen any evidence of any decisive step being taken by the GoI WRT either China or Pakistan. For instance, has Pakistan been punished in any manner for all the airspace violations in northern Punjab & south Jammu that Pakistan has been engaging in since June 2020 with its drones? In any self-respecting country, these would be regarded as an act of war. 3) Then the LAC’s length will increase as it will go along the Shaksgam Valley as well.

To VIKRAM GUHA: Various Russian design bureaux have offered competing LPD/LHD designs since 2017, but the Russian Navy has zeroes in on one of them:

https://sputniknews.com/military/201706041054305747-lavina-class-amphibious-assault-ship/

https://ukdj.imgix.net/40c829baf8a0d2d48130d533d1865cce_/Mock_amphibious_assault_ship.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat&ixlib=php-3.3.0&s=3db4d524f1cebf401c5569a5b05b4326

https://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2020-04/1586778794_1586778813.jpg

https://twitter.com/Missilito/status/776160522538512388

As I have stated earlier, the GoI & IN are of the view that a LPD/LPH design can be derived from the IAC-1’s design, albeit with the help of foreign consultant like Spain’s NAVANTIA. In my view, therefore, from both a military-technical & military-industrial perspective, an indigenous solution is the best option as per the cost-benefit analysis. This is because the Russian Navy’s LHD reqmt is for supporting its Arctic Ocean requirements, unlike the more diversified reqmts of the IN when operating within the IOR.

Meanwhile, INS Dhruv will be virtually commissioned on September 10 at Vizag.

To PRAKSH: Yes, the CATS project is indeed a reality & also includes this:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oKe5rf1hqJE/XG_Svra7QjI/AAAAAAAAQxo/-1mFpjzUYY42Y0FZoqstcjrxgOEjMqwFACLcBGAs/s1600/Four-Winged%2BLoitering%2BUAS.jpg

Both the US & India will each contribute US$11 million for initial prototype co-development over a period of 4 years, as per the agreement inked on July 30, 2021.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To JUST CURIOUS & ANUP: Yes, it will be either the Project-971U Bratsk K-391 or the SamaraK-295. The lease agreement was inked in early March 2019. Delivery will take place in 2025.

To SUMANTA NAG: Italian Police arrested six people this week over an allegedly surreptitious drone company acquisition by PRC state-owned enterprises (SOE) via a Hong Kong-based shell company. They released a redacted ownership chart. China Corporate United Investment (CCUI) and CRRC Capital Holdings, and the Wuxi government in Jiangsu used a web of shells to control Alpi and move Alpi’s production and know-how to China. This story goes back to 2017. The Shanghai provincial government and Italian Ministry of Economic Development hosted a China-Italy Economic Cooperation Forum in June 2017. CCUI signed an equity acquisition framework with Alpi. CCUI’s chairperson created the alleged shell company ‘Mars (Shanghai)’ in October 2017. Mars (HK) was created in February 2018. CCUI then stated publicly that it acquired Alpi in July 2018. In December, Demos (Shanghai) and the Wuxi CRRC CCUI Intelligent Equipment Fund were established, the latter “to push forward the transformation and upgrading of the national industry”. The other entities were probably set up to manage and fund Alpi’s development + relocation to China. By October 2018, Alpi was participating in a joint venture to move production to China. Alpi’s China facilities were intended, according to CCUI, to be the first project within a new Wuxi CRRC S & T Innovation Park that fell within the Wuxi Liyuan Economic Development Zone. By 2019, facility planning/development got underway. CCUI’s Assistant President (助理总裁) said that Alpi production will move to China, creating local engineering teams + new domestic supply chains. In the meantime, Alpi showed off the Strix UAV at the China Int’l Import Expo—Strix is Italian military equipment & export-controlled. Italian Police allege that Alpi failed to notify the Italian Ministry of Defence about the sale for 2 years and reportedly misrepresented the Strix-DF UAV when exporting it to China for the Expo. Other notable points in the case: CCUI and CRRC may have paid as much as 90 times Alpi’s actual value. Alpi is also reportedly under investigation for violating export controls related to Iran, which might be a longstanding issue. Three things about this case stand out: 1st, CRRC + relocation to China. It's just like Dynex. CRRC also owns British subsea equipment & submersibles manufacturers Specialist Machine Developments and Soil Machine Dynamics that at one time said that it would move to China too. Second is overpayment. This is the so-called “China Premium” that sellers want, and PRC companies are willing to offer, due to the regulatory risks and opacity of PRC corporate structures. Third, the targetting of foreign military suppliers for acquisition or R & D partnership. PLA Navy supplier Beijing Highlander Digital Technology has done this multiple times. And it has partnered with radar developer AIDOS Systems SRL in Italy.

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/kolkata-legacy-pharma-firm-afghanistan-taliban-takeover-7490656/

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To SATYAKI: That order can only be described as the LSP-series tranche, which will be dispatched to the IA’s College of Combat for evaluations, following which the ARTRAC will draft the user-manuals & only after that will series-production commence.

The IAF, which is looking at larger tactical drones, has signed up a deal with Indian firm Zen Technologies for counter unmanned aerial systems, while the IA has zeroed in on ‘mule’ UAVs for air-maintenance of high-altitude outposts along the LAC.

https://www.zentechnologies.com/zads-zen-anti-drone-counter-drone-system.php

https://www.zentechnologies.com/zen-heavy-lift-logistics-drones-hlld.php

RAPHE: https://mphibr.com/aboutus

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2021/09/lifting-veil-pakistans-chinese-ucavs.html

2) Not at all. Capturing low-lying surrounding districts alongside the Valley does not mean the entire river-valley has been captured. In HAA, he who dominates the high-grounds dominates the battlefield. The NRF has enough Mi-17 helicopters for carrying out air-maintenance out of Tajikistan.

To SANJAY: Yes, they are on-site in J & K UT at present.

To SATYA: Leave alone Barak-1s, even Akash-1s would have served the purpose of deterrence. It may sound defeatist, but the TRUTH is always bitter. And the truth is that the Rules of Engagement were FLAWED. Abhinandan had ASSUMED that his buddy was following close behind with a ELL-8222 ASPJ-armed MiG-21 Bison & hence he chose to engage the adversary with R-73E SRAAMs, since in a jamming environment, even Abhinandan’s Phazotron Kopyo MMR was being jammed by the ELL-8222 ASPJ. So, despite instructions by the ground-controller (GCI) for the MiG-21 Bisons to turn back & disengage, Abhinandan’s buddy should have stayed close to Abhinandan’s MiG-21 Bison. The reason the IAF opted for Spice-2000 & Crystal Maze (Popeye-Lite) PGMs was due to the insistence by India’s ruling ‘netas’ about the need to avoid collateral damage like the adjoining Madrassa atop that hill! And these ‘netas’ even bragged about it when making imbecile-like observations about bad weather & cloudy conditions. This was the extent of the micro-management by such ‘netas’!!!

To KAUSTAV: Pakistan knows only too well that such direct intervention will invite retaliation in kind from both India & Tajikistan. The NRF is clearly dominating the high-altitude battlefield there, as seen in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLmpDRpzmm0

This is the video of the BBC’s illiterate observations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNEsgvn-qxM

What Was Pakistan's Problem With Ashraf Ghani Govt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbMw1L1N_1k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3IiFKzgRJw

Pakistan’s Torkham CIQ Post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ8v_tBo2cw

And this retired ISI-DG never tires from making absolutely delusional claims/observations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCdWtyTz-hI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEtbTbm014g

Four years ago, he had predicted that all of India’s immediate neighbours will turn hostile against India!!!

And since today is Youm-e-Difaa (National Defence Day) in Pakistan, expect a high-load of self-righteous rhetoric from various Pakistani TV channels, starting with these:

SSG HQ in Cherat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2SAsmNmRIU

Chhamb Sector: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAD2Mwe6bfk

Jaglot–Skardu Highway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlsykDG0B4s

Meanwhile, here are the 1971 Air War-related seminars organised by India’s Centre for Airpower Studies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24FFaiuHIoY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBL1eh3f9gU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JhYr4vt_Tc

Related Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/c/BlueSkiesPodcast/videos

rad said...

hi prasun
what would be the effect on the induction of the pakistan navy new MPA, form brazil, can they venture out far given the dominace of the indian navy> also the PNS meharan seems to temtingly close to take out theese MPA.

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

VMT.

1) Dose'nt the progress with swarm drones indicate that the IA understands this revolution in military affairs and is not incapable of building up to deter the PLA threat as claimed by Pravin Sawhney ?

2) Could the induction of such swarm drones give IA a decisive edge against Pak armed forces in a conflict ?

3) What is the time frame for induction of such systems ? 2-3 years ?

Satyaki

Sanjay said...

Mr. Prasun

1)I don't know about U.S but European nations like UK and Germany especially UK getting beholden to Pakistan due to Refugee issues but also wishful thinking on part of these Nations that Pakistan wants a stable Afghanistan when in reality Pakistan wants a Afghanistan that is only pro-Pakistan.

Dominic Raab UK Foreign Secretary visiting Pakistan taking an aerial survey of Durand Line alongside Pak Army officers.

Also German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas visited Pakistan recently.

This could explain why the BBC anchor was so keen on Pakistan's Viewpoint when taking Christine Fair's interview.

The BBC not wanting to offend Pakistan
and it's Diaspora in UK.

2)https://youtu.be/9Zz-gMrY5fU
The Army which has sacrificed a lot to make this world a better place.
Biggest joke of the year.

But I think in future India-UK relations will expand due to the Indo-Pacific and China.

The CDS of UK has a good relationship with Pak Army Chief Bajwa but our COAS handed over this book to him.

https://www.amazon.in/Stealth-Retired-Brigadier-General-Spalding/dp/0593084349

https://mobile.twitter.com/adgpi/status/1412231381481005058

As if telling him to wake up.

3)Why did GOI put GB under Ladakh UT instead of J&K?

Thank you

Sanjay

arjun said...

How come we are not giving Iglas to the resistance? Even up the ante and throw some Verbas in. RAW has been impotent since RN Kao left the agency.

In hindsight seems there was a US-backed conspiracy going on to destabilize Afg and Kashmir. Pak, China, and Taliban were given $80 billion in free military aid by this bogus draw down. India should not respond by buying US arms since that's what this faux pass was all about.

https://anti-empire.com/us-is-secretly-providing-air-support-for-the-taliban-against-isis/

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun Sir,

What is the status of upgradation of delhi class destroyer and talwar class frigates?

Abhishek

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

See below. What is it that that Pak media person is trying to say ? Is ISI likely to try a large scale terror attack somewhere in India ?

https://twitter.com/pakistan_untold/status/1434568455529943040

Kritavarma

SUJOY MAJUMDAR said...

Prasunda, the way I see it:

Pakistan's end game in Afghanistan is to keep that country on the boil forever so that no Afghan clan, community can change the Durand Line because Afghanistan never accepted the Duran Line and had asked Pakistan to return Pashtun areas that Pakistan continues to occupy.

So lasting peace in Afghanistan, with Pakistan still around is a pipe dream.

In fact to further weaken Afghanistan, Pakistan might try to break up that country into 2-3 separate countries.

joydeep ghosh said...

@prasun da

NRF is gone from Panjshir valey

now Taliban is in full control of Afghanistan

now what is your assessment of what will happen

thanks

Joydeep ghosh

Sanjeev said...

Hi Prasunda,
Hearing news about uttam having proven its air to air modes on lsp and about hal being appointed as production lead for its serial production. Any truth to these news?

Kapil said...

Prasun da, till this day I have not been able to understand the reason behind wasting such huge amount of money on leasing submarines from Russia. What purpose does it serve? Spending 3 billion dollars to lease a submarine for 10 years can never be justified. Our decision makers should rather spend the money on hiring Naval group to help us out in our SSN project by developing an Indian version of the Baraccuda class boats but with more firepower than the original French version. We have very little to no experience of building submarines like that. With naval group on board the project development will speed up and will result in a world class submarine comparable with the best in the world.

সুমন্ত নাগ said...


Prasun Da,


https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/anyone-creating-trouble-will-be-dealt-the-panjshir-way-taliban-after-victory-on-resistance-forces/ar-AAO8Q7k?ocid=msedgntp

----"However, Zabihullah Mujahid said the militant group could not confirm the whereabouts of ex-vice president Amrullah Saleh, who was with the resistance forces in Panjshir. He said the hunt is on for those who fought the Taliban and they could still be forgiven."

To my opinion, Taliban only captured district HQ and surrounding valleys accessible through
roadways, while hill tops are still in the hands of NRF.

If NRF had a humiliating defeat, then Taliban would have showcased captured weapons, and POWs also dead bodies of the NRF soldiers. I think some understandings of short or temporary ceasefire have been agreed upon by the two sides after the intervention of Zirgas, Since Talibs resorted to physiologically blackmailing local populace by engaging them as Mine clearer as well as cutting of electricity, internet and telephony. I think they had taken the leaf out of the PA dealing with TTP. It was also PA's interest to have elements of NRF to be alive, so that Afghanistan will boil forever, but it also drawn PA in the quicksand, since, emboldened TTP will continue to launch suicide attack inside FATA and KP or ambush Pak patrolling party.

Regarding the PRC, thanks for your update, IMHO, the CCP under Xi fast resembling itself a regime modelled after Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP's Nazism model, albeit contrary to Technical prowess which Germany possessed at that time and till today.

Interesting to learn about Kolkkata pharmacy, btw, Kolkata has sizable afghan population, 'Kabuliwala' as they are famously know.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/kolkatas-kabuliwalas-pray-for-family-friends-back-home/articleshow/85384747.cms

----"The Afghan diaspora in Kolkata now is around 7,000 strong. The Afghan diaspora in Kolkata now is around 7,000 strong. Many buildings in Chandni Chowk, Madan Street, Bentinck Street and other parts of central Kolkata are still identified as Pathan kothis, where these men stay in commune-like arrangements."

Majority of them are in the business of Money lending helping the micro economy of the working population. One can spot them in High Court areas, and they have their client base.
Also, the popular eatery Kabul is also owned and operated by them.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To RAD: Given the IN’s air dominance capacities due to its two carrier battle groups, the PN will find it IMPOSSIBLE to mount any MP/ASW sorties along Pakistan’s entire coastline in wartime. In addition, the IN’s eight available Typ-877EKM SSKs equipped with Novator 3M14E Klub subsonic LACMs (200 procured by the IN) will be able to knock out all the frontline PN air bases along Pakistan’s entire coastline. And here’s more of the televised special programmes on Pakistan’s National Defence Day yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUYvqS0qvi0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E9pFo9FBg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGcCWfD4IWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE2Mj-9exhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CLLGbzCN0E

To SATYAKI: 1) You are ASSUMING, like many others, that the PLAGF’s swarm-drones are attack-drones. They are NOT. All videos released by the PLAGF to date show its swarm-drones being of the ‘mule-type’, i.e. for supporting battlefield logistics in the rear-areas, not frontline areas. 2) Not at all, especially if they are quadcopters & hexacopters, since they are not manoeuvrable & consequently they can easily be shot down by SLRs equipped with SMASH-2000 aiming aids. 3) One year.

To SANJAY: You are counting the chickens even before their hatching. No country, even Pakistan, has officially stated that it will recognise a Taliban-led govt in Kabul. In fact, UNSC sanctions against key Taliban leaders still remain in place. Ladakh has far greater cultural & racial commonalities with GB than with Kashmir Valley & hence Ladakh UT was carved out of J & K UT.

To ARJUN: How can you say that such weapons have not been procured by the Panjshir-based NRF? I myself have been approached for the supply of 4,000 units of BM-21 Grad MBRL rockets, 30,000 units of 115mm HE rounds, 8,000 rounds of M-46 130mm towed howitzer HE or blast/fragmentation rounds, 25,000 units of D-20 122mm towed howitzer rounds, 250,000 rounds for ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft cannon, 30,000 rounds for 120mm mortar, 125,000 rounds for 82mm mortar, 40 lakh rounds for DSHK 12.7mm heavy machine gun, 9,000 RPG-7 rounds, 10 lakh rounds for 7.62mm Dragunov sniper rifle, 8.5 crore rounds for AK-47 SLR & 50 APFSDS rounds for 115mm cannons of T-62 MBTs. Surprisingly, no requests have been received for 30mm grenades launched from AGS-17/AGS-30 AGLs.

That’s why yesterday evening an emergency meeting was held at the Indian PMO with the Union Home Affairs Minister & Defence Minister. Iran too does not want Panjshir Valley to fall.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To ABHISHEK: Work is still underway. INS Talwar & INS Tabar has been fully upgraded & is now at sea. And here’s an update on tunnelling activities in northern Kashmir & Kargil:

Zoji La Tunnel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JsEI_0eGmU

To KRITAVARMA: Here’s the full video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLZjyNOZnns

Iran’s Concerns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJaN44xFBKw

Listening to such delusional narratives is an utter waste of time, especially when coming from ISI-sponsored journalists who since their childhood have been conditioned by anti-India hatred. If you listen carefully, that chap is contradicting himself in every sentence. For instance, over the past 90 days since India began closing its 4 consulates & the Embassy, no documentation of any type from either such installations or the Afghan NDS HQ has been revealed by either Afghanistan or Pakistan that reveals India’s so-called anti-Pakistan activities being carried out from Afghan soil. Instead, Pakistani security forces continue to suffer casualties along the Durand Line till this day. Secondly, IS-WK was raised & nurtured out of Chitral & that’s why US drones are flying over that area even now. Lastly, this chap has perhaps not seen all the televised interviews given by various Taliban officials to various Indian TV channels over the past 2 weeks & hence is under the impression that the Taliban does not ‘like’ or ‘favour’ India.

To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: A temporary break-up will be a beautiful option, especially if India succeeds in militarily establishing geographical contiguity via the Wakhan Corridor with the northern & northwestern portions of Afghanistan (like Badakhshan, Balkh & Bamiyan & areas where the Hazara Shias live), which will make the CARs feel far more secure & which will also have Iran’s backing. Perhaps that is why the PA has activated its air-defence sites all along PoJK facing the LoC. The PA is now fearing an Indian retaliation after Pakistan vertically escalated matters by deploying one of its China-supplied CH-3A (Burraq) armed tactical UAVs in Panjshir 48 hours ago.

CH-3A: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwL5xsFXYAEXDco?format=jpg&name=large

To JOYDEEP GHOSH: Really? Were you a witness to it? Or are you only spreading disinformation on behalf of the ‘desi patrakaar’ fraternity, which is totally absent from Afghanistan & are all engaging in rumour-mongering, especially the GOOD NEWS TODAY & REPUBLIC WORLD channels? The former even televised a photo of a crash-landed USAF F-16 in Arizona & claimed that it was downed by the NRF in Panjshir!!! FYI Panjshir is not a spot of area, but is a long river-valley & anyone getting a toehold there does not mean that a firm foothold has been secured there. Hence, kindly get educated about Panjshir river-valley through these 3 videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txcJN_Fgm_Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXQ8xotZPbQ&t=40s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itRJVtEnqms

To SANJEEV: That’s only 50% of the work done. Uttam AESA-MMR laboratory-test versions were tested between 2015 & 2017, following which they were installed on Tejas Mk.1 test & evaluation aircraft & if it took 4 years to develop the air-to-air modes of operation, then it will take another 4 years to develop the air-to-ground modes. Consequently, full-developed series-production Uttam AESA-MMRs will be available only by 2026 after obtaining all the airworthiness approvals from CEMILAC.

To KAPIL: Why are you ASSUMING that the lease amount is only for procuring the SSGNs? The amount is inclusive of housing the Russian technical detachment that is Vizag-based, the cost of type-training the SSGN crew complement at a specialised training centre at Sosnovy Bor, 70km west of St. Petersburg, Russia, and the cost of the SSGN’s 72-month refit and ten-year lease. The IN, surprisingly, has yet to set up its own training & academic facilities for PWR physics & PWR engineering.

just_curious said...

Prasun,
1- Taliban may be forced to abondan using chabahar. This also impacts India's plan for its use to cater to Uzbeks & Tajiks.. wil the focus now be only on INSTC? willa new route be made via turkmenistan?

Sanjeev said...

Thanks Prasunda for your replies. A few more questions
1.How is the Sharang upgrade of M-46 progressing? Did it get delayed by covid?
2. Read that delivery of the Dhanush gun had gotten badly delayed and also there were some Chinese parts in them. Whats the latest there?
Thanks in advance!

Rogue said...

And what happens if the Iglas and Verbas fall into the hands of the Taliban, just like everything else has?? If at all the us was smart enoutgh to to get manpads and atgms into Afghanistan.

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun Sir,

Thanks for previous reply.

1) Why IN didn't consider VL-Shtil package for talwar class upgrades? Recent images from Indian-Algerian naval exercise reveals that INS Tabar still has arm-launched Shtil missile system.

2) Will delhi class also retain its arm-launched Shtil missile system?

Abhishek

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

Chronicling the FOREVER WAR:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B26jFFFaLrg&t=15s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xecINxpass&t=13s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjeKp8QKcDE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_YxMUv8cXY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6M88LVLOmc&t=13s

To ABHISHEK: Because those Project 1135.6 FFGs were built in Russia & India does not possess their engineering drawings. So if India approaches Russia for such drawings, then Russia will charge a prohibitively high sum of money, thereby defeating the whole purpose of such a replacement of weapons. 2) No.

To SANJEEV: Activity is now picking up. German & Swiss OEMs are now supplying genuine components like high-precision ball-bearings.

To JUST_CURIOUS: We are focussing far too much on external factors, like Pakistan. What answers one should in fact seek (that will explain how India landed in such a situation) are to these questions:

1) Why did the NDA-1 govt in mid-1999 prevent the IA & IAF from crossing the LoC for destroying the PA's administrative bases in detail. If the GoI was so adamant about ensuring the so-called Sanctity of the LoC (whereas in reality it is just a ceasefire line & consequently by nature is a temporary arrangement), then it could have easily stated that after undoing the PA's intrusions through tactical offensive actions, the IA would unilaterally return back to its original positions along the LoC. No one has to date provided any convincing answer to this, not even NDA-1 apologists like Shakti Sinha. Though A B Vajpayee later expressed his regrets regarding both 1999 & 2002 (OP Parakram), there still exists no clarity about his overruling of a reverse-Kargil-type option.

2) Are we now witnessing similar reluctance (at the PM's emergency meeting yesterday with Rajnath Singh & Amit Shah, with the CDS yet again not being present, while the NSA was probably present), while the PA has activated its air-defence sites all along PoJK facing the LoC? The PA is perhaps now fearing an Indian retaliation after Pakistan vertically escalated matters by deploying one of its China-supplied CH-3A (Burraq) armed tactical UAVs in Panjshir 48 hours ago.Or maybe the PA is yet again over-estimating India's political will, just like Maj Gen Javed Hassan, the then FCNA GOC-in-C in 1999 was by July fearing a full-scale IA invasion of Skardu & Gilgit!!!

Anonymous said...

What affect will 1 ch-3 drone have in Panjshir? The Soviets went there with many fighters (higher payloads) & gunships and were still defeated. Its all baloney as you would say. The Talbunnies have a real army & not some militia. Its just a matter of time now before they take over the area. There were reports that Massoud is in Turkey now.

Why do you think India will help out now and how? Do you really think USA will step back in after the retreat they just did? How are they going to come to Afghanistan?

Dinish

সুমন্ত নাগ said...

This is the video of the BBC’s illiterate observations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNEsgvn-qxM

- Prasun Da, this the best terminology used by Sri Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose for the BBC:

BBC: Bluff and Bluster Corporation

https://www.thestatesman.com/opinion/against-the-tidei-1502717360.html

BTW, the Loan Shark meets the Bank Robbers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AT_5Wk0REg&lc=UgzpB3pdY9IQFg3ZQE14AaABAg.9Rz9CYuvmeg9RzC2cYC48O

Mumbai Woman's Innovation for making Public Urinals more Hygienic and conserving water:

https://www.thebetterindia.com/261874/neha-bagoria-ecotrapin-tapu-sustainable-solutions-odourless-waterless-public-urinals-water-conservation/

The system 'EcoTrapIn' developed by Ms. Neha Bagoria, numbering 800 installed all over India, helping to save 190 Millions of Portable Water

DAshu said...

"The PA is perhaps now fearing an Indian retaliation " Sir you seem to be disconnected from the reality. You are safe by using the word 'perhaps' otherwise, Your expectations are unusually abnormal in the Indian context.
How could you think normally when the Indian factor gets involved that too, politicians. After Feb 27 incident India will never dare to venture out after all AB Vajpayee is the jewel of bjp.

S T said...

Hi Prasun Da,
May be tommorrow, there will be a announcement about a big initiative for airspace MRO industry.

Regards,
ST.

Sanjeev said...

What percentage by value of Dhanush is import content?

Unknown said...

The option and your guess is as good as mine and you have already written, the government of india will do nothing directly. After all the drones have been used in afghanistan and not india! So why give a shit when the home minister has given an update of domestic situation in india to be under control. Further if americans have exited and dumped Afghans, what the hell should india do. So enjoy your beer and alt balaji adult desi content.

Regarfs

Kunal

Anonymous said...

Prasunda,

With the commissioning of INS Dhruv on Sep 10, can we now expect MIRV testing to begin before the end of the calendar year ?

Ashwatthama

Ranveer said...

Prasun da

1)At first I thought news about Pakistani drones is Fake news but now you are confirming it was true. The world not saying a thing about it.

2)If India launches any attack across the LOC the world powers will condemn India.
China might even intervene militarily even without firing any shots just like last year's Military Coercion.


Thanks

Ranveer


murthy said...

afghan women protest at pak embassy in kabul

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/women-march-in-kabul-against-pakistan-and-demanding-freedom/vi-AAOcecw?ocid=msedgntp

Pratap said...

Prasun da, when is Modi receiving Russia's highest civilian honour the Order of Saint Andrews which was announced by Russia two years ago?

Satya said...

Sir, Bharat Forge has revealed a new prototype of what looks like the production version of it's 4×4 MGS. You said it will be suitable for high-altitude warfare. Is the IA serious about it? What is the total requirement for this particular gun and when can we expect orders? https://youtu.be/h_zilzTIExE

Harish said...

Mr.Prasun

https://theprint.in/defence/rajnath-singh-approves-expansion-of-financial-powers-to-armed-forces-for-revenue-procurement/729626/

This article mentions CFA for Chief of Integrated Defence Staff to the Chairman Chiefs of Staff Committee (CISC) when this post has been overtaken by the Vice CDS?

Is it still present?

Thanks

Anonymous said...

Hi prasun.
The Raf is retiring its fleet of c130j by 2023. The airframes supposedly have a lot of life left as they were originally planned for retirement in 2035 and the brits are retiring them early for budgetary reasons. Would it be a good idea for the iaf to get these?
Thanks in advance.
-DrKRG

Anonymous said...

Dear Prasun Sir,

1) Are there any plans regarding successive classes of destroyers and large frigates?

2) Sir, Bramhaputra class was developed from Godavari class, Nilgiri class used Shivalik class as base platform and same can be said about indian destroyers. Then why IN doesn't have any such plans for Kamorta class corvette?

3) Is Delhi class getting Brahmos and Barak 8 package?

Abhishek

Vsj said...

Also retiring 9 chinooks and 13 minesweepers early. A lot of money to be saved.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To DASHU & KUNAL: https://twitter.com/cvkrishnan/status/1435190623242387461

The Indian MoD’s Controller General of Defence Accounts uses a Chinese document scanning app Cam Scanner for govt documents scanning.

To SANJEEV: About 24%.

To ASHWATTHAMA: Yes.

To RANVEER: 1) All those videos being peddled by TV-9 BHARATVARSH, REPUBLIC TV, TIMES NOW & INDIA TODAY were FAKE. None of them showed the CH-3A armed tactical UAV. 2) Not now, since the US is far too preoccupied with global embarrassment, while China’s PLAGF has very serious problems, as I have explained in the following thread.

To PRATAP: It was already delivered to the PMO by the Russian Embassy in New Delhi.

To SATYA: Let is first undergo all the field-trials & later the user-assisted evaluations/trials.

To Dr.KRG: It will be an excellent option, PROVIDED they are modified & upgraded to C-130J-30 Super Hercules standard, that is if they are only C-130J Hercules.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

To VSJ: India should gobble them up.

To ABHISHEK: Perhaps the NGMVs & NGCs will be derivatives of the Project 28 ASW corvette design.

Kaustav said...

Prasunda

Right again on the airstrikes for the Resistance carried out by the Afghan Air Force or Tajikistan or Mysterious 😆 Air Force. Foo Fighters, I guess. But it's very interesting times & dealt with in the correct manner, the revolution in Afghanistan might yet bring about enormous changes in the sub-continent