According to the Indian Navy’s (IN) Vice
Chief of the Naval Staff, Vice Admiral Robin K Dhowan, the IN will from next
year be operating two aircraft carriers at any given time—one each for the
eastern and western seaboards. The VCNS also confirmed yesterday that the IN
will, by 2019, be able to operate two carrier battle groups (CBG). The 37,500-tonne
Project 71 Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC-1), to be christened INS Vikrant,
will be launched on August 12, 2013 at Cochin Shipyard Ltd (CSL), and will be ready
for induction by December 2018. To date, 75% of its superstructure has been
fabricated. The 260-metre-long IAC, whose hull-construction had commenced in
November 2006, will be able to accommodate 20 MiG-29K MRCAs, five Ka-28PL ASW
helicopters and five Ka-31 AEW helicopters. Its crew complement will comprise
160 officers and 1,400 sailors. Powered by four HAL-assembled and GE-developed
LM-2500 marine industrial gas-turbines, the IAC-1/INS Vikrant will have an
endurance of around 7,500 nautical miles while cruising at a speed of 18 Knots.
For the IAC-1/INS Vikrant, the IN has
selected the Mk 7 hydraulic damping arresting system from the US Navy, while US-based
Wire Rope Industries Inc will supply the arrester cables. Another US-based
company, Engineered Arresting Systems Corp, will supply the arrester barriers.
In contrast, INS Vikramaditya’s hydraulic damping arresting system was designed
by Marine Engineering Research Institute and made by Proletarsky Zavod. Other
hardware to go on board IAC-1 include twin side-mounted aircraft elevators and
their chain-drives from UK-based MacTaggart Scott, while Wire Rope Industries
will supply the ammunition hoisting elevators. The CBRN detection sensors will
be supplied by US-based Bruker Daltonics, which has for the past decade
supplied almost all the CBRN detection sensors for all three of India’s armed
services (while the remaining have come from French OEMs). The IAC-1’s inertial
navigation system will use Sagem-built SIGMA-40 ring laser-gyros.
The VCNS also confirmed that the
commissioning date for the IN’s first Project 15A guided-missile destroyer
(DDG)—INS Kolkata—has been postponed to early next year. Previously, it was
planned to commission this vessel sometime later this month.
The 44,570-tonne INS Vikramaditya will
be arriving in India by early December 2013, while the IN’s existing solitary
aircraft carrier—54-year-old 28,000-tonne INS Viraat—will remain in service
till 2018 along with the 11 remaining BAE Systems Sea Harrier LUSH V/STOL MRCAs.
INS Vikramaditya will be able to accommodate 20 MiG-29Ks, plus four Ka-28PL ASW and
four Ka-31 AEW helicopters.
Following its arrival in Mumbai (its
homeport), INS Vikramaditya will be fitted with vertically-launched silos for 48
Barak-2 LR-SAMs, while for target engagement and fire-control support for the Barak-2,
an Israel Aerospace Industries/ELTA Systems-built ALPHA (Advanced Lightweight
Phased Array Radar) S-band active phased-array radar system will be installed. The ALPHA, also known as the EL/M-2258, is
a derivative of the S-band EL/M-2248 Multi-Function Surveillance and
Threat Alert Radar (MF-STAR), which
will be on board the IAC-1/INS Vikrant as well as on the three Project 15A
DDGs, four Project 15B DDGs as well as the seven Project 17A FFGs.
344 comments:
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Times now reporting a blast occured in INS Sindhurakshak. Is it true?
Thanks & Regards
INS Vikramaditya = Hindustan Motors Ambassador, INS Vikrant = Toyota Lexus >> What an excellent analogy and simple explanation.
Good news for all to know:
1) The IAC-1’s Island superstructure will be erected AFTER the arrival of the two hydraulic elevators from the US.
2) This launch ceremony was delayed by 1.5 years due to the delayed arrival of the main gearboxes due to damage sustained to them during their maiden delivery voyage by road (from Kholopi>>Khopoli) in 2008.
3) The ISRO-developed indigenous cryogenic engine for the GSLV-D5 has already been installed on to the satellite launch vehicle & GSLV-D5 with GSAT-14 will liftoff on August 19. >> Very Good news. Hope it succeeds now.
4) The first 500mW FBTR will begin the process of achieving criticality this September. >> If I remember properly, there is the use of the molten Sodium for the primary cycle and if so I think by now they have efficiently managed the Sodium pumps.
5) Ground-breaking ceremony for the 3rd & 4th 1,000mW VVER-1000 PWRs at Koodankulam will be held soon. >> Very good news again. Obviously for commercial power generation.
6) In addition to the two indigenous 700mW PHWRs now coming up at Rawatbhatta (Rajasthan) & two more at Kakrapar (Gujarat), financial sanction has just been accorded for two more at Gorakhpur (UP), two at Kaiga (Karnataka), two at Mahi Banswara (Rajasthan), two at Chutka & two at Bhimpur (both in MP). >> Excellent news again.
7) Financial sanction has just been accorded for BARC & NPCIL to co-develop an indigenous 900mW PWR by upscaling the 83mW LWR that was developed for the S-2/Arihant, S-3 & S-4 SSBNs. >> Must be for commercial power generation.
8) Financial sanction has been just accorded for BARC to develop a 190mW LWR by upscaling the 83mW LWR. This 190mW LWR will also be offered for installation on the projected IAC-2, & on the S-5, S-6 & S-7 SSBNs. >> Excellent news.
9) Plans are now afoot to seek sanction for an advanced (but upscaled to 150mW) derivative of the 83mW LWR, this being for the IN’s projected reqmt for nine SSNs similar to the Barracuda-class SSN from DCNS. >> Excellent news.
Prasunda,
Just came to know about the fire incident in kilo class submarine. Its very unfortunate that the sub just couple of years ago underwent major refit. What safety measures r taken by our Navy. What about the acquisition of 2 deep submergence rescue vehicles that were to be taken place. Also the nuclear subs r more prone to such accidents. Is our Navy prepared for it. Now how safe is the sailors from radiation from the reactor inside nuclear sub.
The South Korean Navy currently operates over 10 submarines, including 1,200-ton Type 209 subs and 1,800-ton Type 214 subs and plans to acquire nine 3,000-ton level heavy-attack submarines after 2020. Whereas India with a huge coastline is struggling with 6or so subs! Why not team up with the Koreans and perhaps cut down the bill as well as increase production via JV? How did the Koreans end up with the AIP technology or it is bought from Stirling?
Sir, few questions about aircraft carriers -
1) What is IAC-1's maximum full-load tonnage (including the weight of all missiles/equipment, personnel, aircraft, fuel etc.? The net says it's 37,500 tons but I find it too small for a carrier this big.
2) How many aircraft can IAC-1 carry maximum in wartime? Some say 30, some say 36, 17 in hangar deck and 19 on flight deck. Which is true?
3) Why does IAC-1 need 2 MFSTAR radars on the island? Isn't 1 enough? Then there is also a RAN-40L radar as well.
2 x MFSTARs means a total of 6 arrays or 8 arrays? (I'm asking because I don't think the two radars will each have an array facing one another).
A normal MFSTAR radar as on P-15A DDG has 4 arrays, each looking in a direction.
4) What is the Combat Management System on IAC-1? LIVEFIST reports a CMS is being developed by Tata Power for IAC-1. Is that news correct? What is this CMS called?
5) What is the service life of IAC-1? I think atleast 45-50 years.
6) After IN phases out this carrier, will there be a possibility that we can refurbish it and transfer it to some other Navy? Probably Australia or Vietnam?
7) How come you said a single 190MW PWR will be enough for 65,000-ton IAC-2 whereas smaller ships like Charles De Gaulle which displace only around 42,000 tons have 2 x 150MW reactors producing a total of 300MW?
Given the fact IAC-2 will be much larger than Charles DG, and will be carrying a bigger air wing, it's power needs will be greater, no?
8) What carrier-borne AEW&C plane are we looking to procure for IAC-2? Grumman E-2D Advanced Hawkeye or a V-22 Osprey-based AEW&C radar?
9) What do you think will be the maximum full load-tonnage of IAC-2?
10) How many aircraft do you think IAC-2 can carry?
11) What fighter do you think has a bigger chance of being put on IAC-2? N-FGFA or Rafale M?
Thanks in advance.
To NEEL & RD & AMARDEEP: The accident is most probably due to some accident in the battery compartment. That explains why the fire broke out. There are no indications of any accidental on-board explosion involving any weapon systems.
To NEEL: BMP-1s will be decommissioned & very few units were bought in the 1980s in any case. BMP-2’s new engine will come from Russia.
To SUBIR: 2) AD-1/AD-2’s R & D phase will conclude by 2018. 3) Neither the US nor France nor the UK nor China bother about intercepting ICBMs & neither should India. 4) No they can’t since it will be a violation of Russia’s NPT obligations. 5) Charles de Gaulle is bigger than IAC-1. 7) They will be ordered in future.
To SS: The existing consortium of companies led by L & T is perfectly capable of undertaking the SSN construction programme as well.
To Anon@9.21PM: Austral-type catamarans have already been built by ABG Shipyard for the IN’s reqmt for survey vessels. For amphibious assaults, what is reqd most are LCAC-type hovercraft. Pakistan isn’t developing any type of n-reactor, period.
A great article by Gandi:
I sometimes feel that if there is to be peace it will be made by the BJP with Pakistan. Maybe the reality is coming home that Pakistan will never back-down/breakup. And that pakistanis actually enjoy the confrontation. That is it treated as a strategic asset by china et el. Whereas if indians were smart it would have been an indian asset.
http://mobiletoi.timesofindia.com/mobile.aspx?article=yes&pageid=14§id=edid=&edlabel=TOIPU&mydateHid=13-08-2013&pubname=Times+of+India+-+Pune&edname=&articleid=Ar01400&publabel=TOI
@subir:
Indeed there are non-state actors. even on your side of the border (like the army man who blew up the train to pak and india tried to blame it on pak). The so called "encounters" staged by IA in kashmir to show courage/win medals or just to eliminate trouble-some civilians are commonly know. Who is to say this was not staged by IA itself? I am sure you know that it looks like the 5 killed were shot in their sleep and the guard did not even fire a single shot!!! curious? otherwise lot of the attackers would be dead or injured and we would really know who did it? especially considering IA is no amateur/cowardly outfit. They train for this constantly. So what really happened?
To RAW13: Conspiracy theories always tend to abound & one such involves the involvement of Col Purohit in the Samjhauta train blast case. The fact, however, remains that no one has thus far seen the final chargesheet & it could well be that Col Purohit from IA’s MI Directorate could have been used to infiltrate the RSS for information-gathering purposes. Consequently, it is still premature to draw any firm conclusions on Col Purohit. Furthermore, false-flag operations are never staged against one’s own—a fact being ignored by several Pakistan-based commentators & analysts who are still erroneously saying that the killing of four IA soldiers was not done along the LoC, but 5km or 5 miles inside J & K—this again being based on the erroneous statement on this incident issued by Pakistan’s Interior Minister Chaudhary Nisar. Finally, the fact remains that if non-state actors can don PA uniforms, storm a prison inside Pakistan & free the prison’s inmates & retreat back to their dens inside Pakistan all without incurring any casualties (while the JUI-F is busy accusing Imran Khan of being Jewish & the PTI accusing Maulana Fazlur Rehman of being an alcoholic), then this can only amount to one conclusion: the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is becoming a default state, something that Lt Gen Ahmed Shuja pasha too stated in the Abbotabad Commission.
Do watch these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoELwPhnal0&feature=c4-overview&list=UUpGbfojvu5JT0ehDUE8KFeA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZPEZh34uGY&feature=c4-overview&list=UUpGbfojvu5JT0ehDUE8KFeA
On the eve of independence day, folks may perhaps care to spend some time watching these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C-JpNukwe8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwdIUg--nTI
Sir, VMT.
1.If Russia can provide the detailed data of KLT-40C for Arihant class and even help with re-configuring it for sub ops,then will NPT be violated in upscaling them for our SSBN and SSN.
2.Why isnt there any S-1?Why was the naming started from S-2.
3.Did you learn about their weapons complement and sensors during IMDEX-2013. Will there be any improvements,modifications on Batch 3 of Talwar class over batch 2.
4.K-4 is suppossed to have a range of 3500 km with full payload. Even with this the missile can strike significant portions of China while remaining in Bay of bengal. Is it going to be another technolgy demostrator?
5.Will it be possible to salvage the submerged sub,repair it extensively and introduce it into active service.
6.In this incident was any other adjacent subs damaged.There are press reports that INS Sindhuratn suffered significant structural damages.
7.Why is PA and Pak Rangers always helping the terrorists to inflitrate into this side of LoC.Whenever there are instances of firing,on most of these occassions they are suppressive fires to help the state actors.Today was no exception.It needs to be dealt with a strong hand. This is nt any way of escaping boredom.
Even coming back from Russia INS Sindurakshak faced problems near to egypt coast, around may 26 this year.
The reason they said was rough weather. How come a submarine affected by rough weather? If the weather is so rough, how come egyptian navy was able to tow it to egypt's coast? Something is not really good with it's work in Russia as per my little knowledge whatever..
Sir, If the payload of RV is reduced to maybe 500 kg K-4 may well reach 3800-4000 km.
Thanks for the answer sir. When will be first scorpene submarine will be inducted in the navy and is the second arihant class submarine is ready to be launched early next year?
Thanks
Happy independence day in advance sir.
@Prasun,
I agree with most of what you say. However what makes you think that in the prison break out there werent casulties suffered by the taliban? at least 7 suicides bombers died for a start. The firing went on for a while. This was not the case at LoC....where silence prevaled!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/30/us-pakistan-prison-attack-idUSBRE96S0WG20130730
Reality is, there is so much lying by both india and pakistan, nobody in the world cares or believes them!!! just look at the global reaction to incidents at LoC and LAC. Have a look at this link:
http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2013/08/14/india-looks-ludicrous-to-world-community/
@raw13:
You are very right when you say that both India and Pakistan lie too much and make ourselves look downright silly and stupid in front of the world... unlike the Chinese who actually"do more than talk" and earn respect the hard way.
Ignore the anon@8.33 pm You are very welcome to contribute your viewpoint on this blog and others as there are many Indians who are interested in hearing perspectives from across the border.
As for what Prasun said about the prsion break in Pakistan, I believe its more about the levels and deception and collusion inside Pakistan... which only proves that similar deception ( the terrorists dressed as regulars or regulars dressed as terrorists like during Kargil) are not imaginary. Silence might have prevailed because the SSG was effective in planning the ambush in an area where quick reaction from the IA was hard... and then pointless perhaps.
Just saying.
To SUBIR: 1) Upscaling or downscaling is not a challenge anymore for the DAE or NCIL as I had explained yesterday. Russian expertise in this area is not reqd. 2) S-1 is the half-boat located at Kalpakkam. 3) Batch 3 Project 1135.6 FFGs will be identical to the previous six Project 1135.6 FFGs. 4) K-4 SLBM will be an operational weapon system. 5) Of course. The CNS already stated earlier today that the SSK us salvageable. 6) INS Sindhughosh & INS Sindhuratna were five metres apart from INS Sindhurakshak & therefore have also been partially damaged. 7) This is what happens along any temporary ceasefire lie. That’s why it’s called the LoC & that’s why there are no cross-firing incidents along the international boundary.
To REDDY: That SSK indeed faced bad weather because when any SSK enters the territorial waters of any country it has to stay surfaced & cannot be submerged. When the SSK is cruising while surfaced & that too in congested territorial waters, harbour pilots on board tugboats are often used to tow the SSK through a crowded navigational channel, like the entrance to a port or through the Suez Canal. The accident on board the INS Sindhurakshak took place in all probability due to non-adherence to SOPs, because any SSK or warship armed with live weapons that are not cannister-mounted is NEVER allowed to enter any dockyard. In Mumbai’s case, warships always head out to nearby Pigeon Island where the Naval Armaments Storage Depots are. Therefore, the presence of two TEST-71 torpedoes, one 3M54E Klub-S ASCM & one 3M14E Klub LACM on board the INS Sindhurakshak while it is docked alongside two other Type 877EKM SSKs inside the WNC’s Naval Dockyard is questionable. Luckily, these weapons were not armed with their explosive warheads (since these weapons were due to be fired only for the SSK’s in-country firing trials as mandated by the upgrade contract within 12 months of the SSK’s delivery & therefore the warhead sections contained telemetry tracking hardware instead of explosives) & therefore when the on-board sympathetic detonation took place last night, only the propellant sections of the weapons caused the consecutive blasts & that’s also the reason why the two other Type 877EKM SSKs docked alongside did not suffer from any significant structural damage.
To AMARDEEP: The first Scorpene SSK will be inducted into service in only 2017. S-3 will consume 30% less time to be fabricated compared to the time taken for fabricating the S-2 Arihant & S-4 will take 60% less time to be fabricated.
To RAW13 & HEBERIAN: It’s not really lying, but seeking recourse to the element of plausible deniability that results in the emanation of vitriolic cacophony by the print/electronic media from both sides of the divide. And when only bits & pieces of the truth emerge, then they’re twisted beyond logic & all sense of proportionality is lost. For instance, the on-going exchanges of gunfire are limited to only a tiny stretch of the LoC & the Working Boundary & no medium or heavy field artillery fire has been exchanged, meaning the bilateral ceasefire since November 2003 has indeed worked out by & large. Contrast this with the situation prevailing prior to November 2003, when there were no limits to the quantum or type of firepower to be employed & on average throughout the entire LoC, there were at least 200 violations by either side on a daily basis. In fact, the Neelam Valley was closed to traffic between 1995 & November 2003. Therefore, despite all that’s been happening since November 2003, there’s no reason to believe or assume that war is eminent or the ceasefire is in danger of crumbling.
A kind request to verify the links in the comment page Oldest and Older as it seems to refer to the the same page.
It has been quite a while, you had mentioned that in case of submarine design selection, the end user i.e. the navy was not consulted. In your recent comments, you have mentioned about Russian offer for subsequent submarines which in your opinion makes great sense.
The inference that I draw here is Russian offer would make more sense than the French offer(Baracuda).
From technical, technology, safety, maintenance, future up-gradation perspective how would you rate the Russian offer v/s the French offer?
Prasunda,
With this accident 2 things have become almost sure-
1. For project75i the Amur is out of the race.
2. For Aip option the hydrogen-oxygen fuel cell will not be used. Instead mesma or stirling will be adopted.
Also few experts r saying to ground the entire kilo fleet till the inquiry is complete & exact cause is found out. If that happens then it will be impossible task for the 4 shishumar subs to guard the seas.
To PIERRE ZORIN: The Indian Navy & MDL both had acquired full ToT plus all technical data packages reqd for building the Class 209/Type 1500 SSKs in the early 1980s & yet chose to licence-build only two of them, while importing two more. Why? Why not build six Class 209/Type 1500 SSKs? Why did the Govt of India & its MoD develop selective amnesia since 2000 & decide to once again seek ToT for another type of imported SSK, the Scorpene? Why was the licenced-production of the Class 209/Type 1500 SSK not resumed after 2002? HDW had even by then developed an AIP plug-in for this SSK. Yet, just like the Govt of India & its MoD had developed amnesia (from 1987 till 2011) about the existence of full ToT plus all technical data packages reqd for building the Bofors FH-77B 155mm/39-cal towed howitzers, once again the Govt of India & its MoD displayed such amnesia in the previous decade when it came to acquiring more Class 209/Type 1500 SSKs. End result: more money was spent on the Project 75 Scorpene SSK procurement project—something that was totally avoidable. Had the IN got its 8 Class 208/Type 1500 SSKs in the previous decade, then the IN today would have had a SSK fleet comprising 8 Class 209/Type 1500 SSKs & 8 upgraded Type 877EKM SSKs & Project 75I could well have been launched only in the latter half of this decade, while the first four Class 209/Type 1500 SSKs could by now have been equipped with AIP plug-ins. Now, do you see how these Dhoti-clad ‘desi’ politicians have totally fucked-up matters between 2003 & now?
To PRATAP KUMAR: 1) Close to 40,000 tonnes. 2) As listed above. 3) There’s only one EL/M-2048 MF-STAR—only it has four antenna arrays in a distributed manner. For warships today there are combinations of S-band & L-band radars. 4) CMS is developed by TATA Power SED, which has also developed the CMS suites for S-2/Arihant, S-3 & S-4 SSBNs. 5) 20 years, same as that of INS Vikramaditya. 6) Neither of those two countries wants aircraft carriers. 7) LWR reactor technology has evolved an lot since the 1980s. 8) E-2D Hawkeye 2000. 9) 65,000 tonnes. 10) More than 40. 11) N-FGFA.
To RD: There’s no need to keep the remaining Type 877EKM SSKs confined to ports. As I had explained above, deviation from SOPs is the most likely reason why the disaster took place. As for AIP options, the IN rightly has insisted on procuring a proven in-service AIP system & this being the case, the most proven & cost-effective option remains the Stirling Engine-based AIP.
In Indian Navy is it the same team that operates a sub/ vessel all the time or teams keep changing? If the same team is operating INS Sindurakshak for all the time, it is pretty evident that (based on your assumption that SOP is not followed) it is the teams fault since it is the same sub often found in bad press, just like the case in Mig crashes.
We must subject Mig crashes to the Statistics analysis to point out what/who causes accidents. The correlation of statistics brings the real reasons for these crashes.
Our guys must learn from UK/US/EU standards from the health and safety POV.
atleast God showed mercy on us. If the same accident could have happened in the high seas, we might lost all 58 sailors, high salvage costs, and entire boat. This might be in addition to the factor of not knowing what/who caused this and often leads to high suspicions and loss of IN morale.
To Anon@2.39AM: Crew complement composition never stays the same due to turnarounds, promotions, etc. Irregardless of this, every crew-member is type-rated & certified prior to being posted on board the SSK. Consequently, SOPs are universally required to be adhered to. But like I said above, a fully-armed SSK inside the Naval Dockyard in close proximity to other SSKs & warships itself is a likely deviation from the SOP.
MiG-21 accidents have been caused due to inadequate operational conversion training, plain & simple. And why this is so? Simply because there were no flight simulators or cockpit procedures trainers available for them & therefore rookie pilots earmarked for the MiG-21FL, MiG-21M, MiG-21bis & MiG-21 Bison always had to learn the intricacies of staying within safety limits of the aircrafts’ flight manoeuvrability envelopes the hard way, i.e. only on the tandem-seat MiG-21U & that too in a very limited number of flight-sorties before going solo. Statistically, 97% of fatal crashes of the IAF have taken place either immediately after takeoff or during the final approach (due to material mal-functions or bird-hits) & of these 90% are attributed to the aircrew’s inability to respond quickly enough to such in-flight emergencies. This is where the importance of flight simulators & cockpit procedures trainers stands out. And that’s exactly why no serving or retired IAF official ever talks publicly about the absence of such flight training aids whenever they’re asked about the IAF’s flight-safety record. For, if they do so, then they will have to also explain why was the IAF forced to procure & operate combat aircraft like the MiG-21, Su-7, MiG-23, MiG-25, MiG-27 & MiG-29 that were never accompanied by such flight-training aids & then the fingers will all point at successive Govts of India since the early 1960s & these govts will then be accused of deliberately compromising the IAF pilots’ flight-safety. That’s the plain & simple truth in a nutshell.
To Anon@2.43AM: It is extremely shameful for any Navy to lose its frontline operational warfighting vessels during peacetime. A similar incident had taken place in the mid-1990s when a Petya-class FFG broke up into two in the high seas, which was later attributed to gross & willful negligence in terms of non-adherence to prescribed MRO timeframes. Then there was another case in the previous decade of a Project 1241E.1 guided-missile corvette ramming into a commercial merchant marine vessel at night due to the negligence of the officers-on-watch. And of course the loss of INS Vindhyagiri again due to negligent navigation.
Sir, do we really need 18 SSNs, 9 to 12 SSNs are enough to to protect SSGN/SSBNs, moreover SSNs are meant for blue seas, hard to operate in shallow waters (US debate on nuclear vs diesel electric subs) I believe we need more SSKs
please also explain the operational style of SSBNs, Will SSBNs patrol with SSNs OR SSBNs occupy some strategic points and patrolling SSNs will give cover to nearest standing SSBNs.
Thanks for the answer sir. Is navy is the process to acquire a second akula
/ yasen class submarine from russia ?
Sir, when will the first kolkata class destroyer inducted in navy ?
Thanks.
Sir you said "as listed above" to my question about how many aircraft IAC-1 can carry in wartime?
I cannot find any mention of this in the comments section.
Is it 30 or 36?
Okay sir, I found my answer.
Thanks.
Dear Sir,
Please kindly give view points.
1. As per your directions i had googled for Alien Species and Sangam literature but what i had came across is various links and websites especially pertaining to Alien theories and came across various persons and scientists claiming that alien life is based on Silicon rather than carbon as on earth and even if they exists they may not be able to visit us for various reasons such as they do not have any crisis on their planet so that they have look out for new habitable planet or Earth is totally on different Biology & Atmospherically from their home so they consider Earth as uninhabitable & unworthy of visit, also i had came across claims such as even if extraterrestrial life exists than it may be behind earth evolution & young civilization. Kindly give your views on this.
2. As per reply on Electro-Gravitcs being cheaper economically & viable then why we are not discarding our dependence on Fossil-fuels For such CLEAN ENERGY SOURCE as it may help to realize various tasks not easily done with help of fossil-fuels and you say that by feeing such discoveries can cause chaos & collapse of global economy can you please enlighten us more on this matter i will be highly grateful to you.
Awaiting for your reply
Thanking you in advance.
Dear Sir,
Do you have any update on ISRO satelite GSAT-8,10 as the are bieng launche dany also in-orbit testing phase is completed so what is the present status of this satellites
Also what is problem related to INSAT-4 series satellites as such there are many which are saying that these satelites are now operating under power anomaly due to solar panel issues.
Kindly put some light in this matter
ALso recently INSAT-3D also have such problems as per various news agencies please kindly explain about this.
Eagerly awaiting yur reply,
Thanking You in advance
Whats happening in tehran, indian oil ship detention may not have positive impact in india/iran relation, Is iran actively looking for any new frnds in IO region or beyond.
Sir, VMT.
1.News reports say the entire interior portion of the sub has been gutted by fire,the hull has suffered extensive damages,some parts of the hull has also melted due to the intense heat genrated. Will it be economical and cost effective to repair it and put it back into service.
2.I viewed the Netrani/Pigeon islands in Google maps.I didnt find any infrastructure,warehouses or any structures on it.Then where is Naval armaments storage depots.And the islands are very small to accomodate wepaonry stocks for the entire Western fleet.
3.Now that subs are required urgently to maintain adequated force levels and holding our ground against our neighbours,will IN,MOD ask any foreign shipyard to deliver 2 diesel electric subs off the shelf quickly in the shortest possible time in a direct gov to gov deal without issuing of RFI and RFP and going through the usual process.
Can Mazagaon Docks nw produce the Type 2091500 subs ?
4.Wont it be a good option to order another 2 Arihant class subs immediately.As you said the 3rd sub will be requiring 60 perecnt less time.This is one possible way of arresting depleting forcelevels. IN HQ ccould also have ordered more Kolkata class DDG instead of just 3.
5.Are the full mission simulators for Su30mki which you said will be installed on all IAF bases housing a Su squadron online ? Are most of the su bases nw having sunshelters and hangars fr Su30.
6.Will this major peacetime incident ring any bells in IN HQ as to modify SOP,saftey concerns in berthing naval ships so close to each other and the need for dedicated naval bases.Without timely intervtn the other 2 subs might also be significantly damaged.
Hi Prasun,
Happy INDEPENDECE DAY.
Let us hope the new generation indian politicians realize the sacrifices our freedom fighters made for a better future for our country.
Here is some good news:
CII academy for manufacturing excellence planned in Chennai by TN Govt. It will create industry-ready skilled trainers(5000 in3 yrs), students in public-private-partnership mode.
build and operate industry vertical specific Centres of Excellence in automotive, aerospace and defence, bio-technology, textile, solar, nano-technology, petrochemical, pharma and others.
offer identified training programmes to students in contemporary industry-related subject areas, where there was industry demand as well as skill shortage include facility management, product design, supply chain, industrial automation, production planning, materials management, virtual manufacturing and India specific production planning systems.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/cii-academy-for-manufacturing-excellence-planned/article5007994.ece
At last, the defence production in india may go up in the coming years with skilled HR available in country.
Would like to read your concerns on energy security of the country in the next decade.
Hi Prasun ,
Will the Indian T 90 use Shtora ? If not , will they be using any other similar system.
Thanks
Ukraine suggest that the Chinese joint production of fifth generation aircraft engine
Core Tip: According to Russian military news network reported on September 7, Ukraine Motor Sich Engine Chairman Vyacheslav - recent visit to China accompanying President Yanukovych announced that the company will recommend China Unitedproduction of 5th generation aircraft engine (known as fourth generation Chinese program on behalf of the engines) to the joint development and production of the world's most modern aircraft.
China's L-15 Falcon advanced trainer aircraft with Ukraine engines.
L-15 using the AI-222 engines.
F119 engine for use on the F-22, F-22 is a supersonic cruise achieve a strong driving force.
LONDON Sept. 8 report, according to Russian military news network reported on September 7, Ukraine Motro Sich engine Chairman Vyacheslav - recent visit to China accompanying President Yanukovych announced that the company would suggest that the Chinese joint production of the 5th generation aircraft engine (known as fourth generation Chinese program on behalf of the engines) to the joint development and production of the world's most modern aircraft.
Vyacheslav said the rapid development of aviation industry in the world context, Ukraine Motor Sich engine company to prepare and Chinese partners jointly develop the next Hezuo projects, establishment of joint aerospace manufacturers, and even Russia does not rule out the establishment of a joint enterprise Yekuaicanyu possible sex. He believes that in recent years, Ukrainian aviation manufacturing fields has been fruitful, the two sides finished with Ukrainian military aircraft engine manufacturers in China cooperation projects, the establishment of joint aircraft maintenance and service base, currently still in the implementation of China's wide-bodied aircraft, helicopters and heavy trainer aircraft developed in close cooperation projects. He called on both countries to further strengthen cooperation among banks to create financial cooperation system, strengthen the bilateral aviation manufacturing industry's financial support. He said: "Currently we are working with the many departments and enterprises to discuss expanding cooperation in the framework of the problem."
Prasun Da,
The Navy is now talking about roping in Dutch & Singaporean companies to salvage the sub . Had they done this 3 days ago was there any chance that the sailors could have been rescued .
Thanks,
Sujoy
@Prasun da
regarding the sub lost i believe it was may have been caused due to anamoly in hydrogen levels, whats your say
I believe that now IN will definately push for increasing the number of subs under P75 scorpene to 12 and subsequent P75I also to 12 to make up for numbers all these will have VLS missile launch capability
But this doesnt include SSN/SSBN/ SSGN numbers
Btw i still wondor what happened to tons of documents received as ToT of HDW subs, will they ever be used in Indian sub design
Just a thought that as a pfoof of concept why cant we use hovercrafts in the areas that become inaccessible due to rains, snow in the mountains of ladakh, sikkim or AP.whats your opinion
thanks
Joydeep Ghosh
@ Think Tank,
when you are translating foreign news article, it would be very great if you can rewrite the gist of the article in proper English.
Read this line [sic] "even Russia does not rule out the establishment of a joint enterprise Yekuaicanyu possible sex", another one, "F119 engine for use on the F-22, F-22 is a supersonic cruise achieve a strong driving force" (but paragraph was about L-15 aircraft) In essence i did not understand fully what you want to really convey.
it is a request and no offence intended.
thanks,
Rakesh Thriprayar
Dear Prasun,
could you please explain me the nature/ difficulty level of lifting our sub INS S63?
I have read from wiki:
INS S63:-
2325 tons surfaced
3076 tons submerged
If I calculate even at elementary level:
The volume of S63 is: 23,000 m3 approximately.
To covert this to weight = 23,000 tons.
Total weight: 23,000 + 3076 = 26,076 tons in total.
or
26,000 tons nearly.
Am asking as a just concerned civilian whats the level of lifting to this the industrial cranes?
If we can not lift as such, is it difficult to hook to onlt one side (propeller side) and lift it at an angle?
To explain if we consider S63 laying on a x-y axis (x and y are perpendicular to each other, 90 degrees) and propeller is at x=0,y=0 and nose at x=72.6 m, y = 0.
And is it not easy now to hook at propeller side and keep lifting so water can be gutted out through torpedo tubes, since they are already ruptured? Don't we have this sort of capability?
Also why IN immediately ask some foreign firm to come-in, in the first hour itself after knowing S63 submerged, why should it is so called 'MULLING' to rope in singapore firm for the next one or 2 decades to decide?
Am just asking with a pained heart, I don't know the intricacies much either in these operations..
small correction to my earlier post:
In the last para, it should be why not, not just why.
Thanks
Any Update on this :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSL/kangam_type_mine_counter_measures_vessels
First ship delivery by 2016 ??
http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/NAT-SPL-independence-day-life-of-a-spy-forgotten-hero-ravindra-kaushik-4348666-PHO.html
Why Indian government treat a hero of country always like this?his family is only getting 500Rs per month.Is the state of our agency is same our improved over the years?
Sir,
A submarine has multiple level of redundancies in almost all of its equipments for ensuring maximum survivability.There are multiple layers of safeguards with the weapons on board,their associated fire control systems. There are multiple redundancies in the environment control system,the fire suppressor is automatic,their are systems for ensuring that hydrogen is properly ventilated out from the battery pit,it has a backup in case the primary fails. The torpedoes have safety fuses which ensures they wont explode until they are at some distance waway from the sub.Unless all the safeguards and redundancies fail sequentially one after the other such an incident is highly unlikely.Everything cant fail all at once unless there is some external intervation,unless things are rigged to malfuction .
Indian Navy divers who have entered the sub has confirmed the massive damage that has been incurred to the sub.There are molten metal everywhere.Equipments have been destroyed and dislodged from their places.The hatches and pathways have twisted.Thw whole of the interior of the sub has been gutted by the fire which followed the explosions.With al this damage will it be possible to repair it and bring it to its former state.
What are the options avialable with IN HQ wrt to submarine fleet now.How can it procure new undersea platforms quickly and check the depleting sub fleet.Its estimated that the 1st P-75I suv is still atleast 8-12 yrs away.
Over the past few days Pakistan army and rangers have been continuosly firing on Indian forward posts.The firing is not at all localised and has spread to Kargil and Drass sector.The situation is worsening by the hour.The retards has even started spraying fire on Indian viallges adjacent to LoC.Its time we gave them a suitable ans. Being preaactive like the Israelis and resorting to air strikes is the only option now.Hundreds of non state actors are now witong on the other side waiting to cross over.is it at all possible for Nawaz sharif nt to be aware of this when basically there are scores of training camps in there.PoK is basically a terrorsit production line.If that grt sarcastic retard Sharif who on one hand asks us to proceed with our peace talks and on the other hand directs the army to do so and still resort to the act of plauisable deniability that he isnt aware of any such events and is as pure as snow why cant we resort to similar tactics after carrying out precison air strikes against the large scale terrorist final assembly line!!
Sir,
Where/by whom was the flight control logic for the Tejas developed? If we didn't do it ourselves, then a major component (along with reliable power-plants and radars) is still out of our grasp rendering the notion that if the Tejas does finally become a successful program then it shall allow us to develop other platforms in the future null and void, no?
Sir when did IAI state that the Barak-8/Barak-ER would be an anti-SRBM interceptor? Could you please post the link mentioning the same- google was unsuccessful in that task. How can it even compete with the PAC-3 missile from the Patriot system given that the PAC-3 is tailor made for anti-SRBM/NLOS-BM interception unlike the Barak? Given that the PAC-3 has greater speed and probably a higher flight altitude than the Barak's purported limit of 16km wouldn't such a claim be highly doubtful?
The utter failures for optimum and judicious application of full ToT and all technical data packages for building the Bofors FH-77B 155mm/39-cal towed howitzers and regarding acquiring more Class 209/Type 1500 SSKs in similar manners shall be classified as Unpatriotic Technical and Managerial Mistakes.
Gents, believe me no need of any foreign firm, there are sub sea Oil&Gas service providers in india who provides equipments (ROV, cutting equipments etc) for deep sea drilling, especially in mumbai many of them having thier bases, it is quite possible within hours they can mobilie. Navy should have consult with ONGC. So much technology/ resources lying idle,Only in these kind of incidents our navay can prove thier rediness & assymetric thinking, not in preplaned, premeditated naval excercise, we are proving ourselves again & again that we are book worm, either we need a foreign consultant or pre developed doctrine to follow. Wat say Prasun?
Prasun Da ,
The CIA has finally acknowledged that AREA 51 does exist but says that there are no aliens .
https://nsarchive.wordpress.com/2013/08/16/the-cia-declassifies-area-51/
Furthermore,
Why have we taken such a liking to the PAK-FA? We will end up spending north of 15 billion $, probably more given the Indian and Russian track-record. What will we get in return?
We have license produced air crafts before, what has that given us? We have license produced the AL-31FP engine I believe, in fact a single crustal blade from that engine was on display during AeroIndia or some other recent exhibition in a HAL pavilion I believe but a 3rd generation Indian SCB is nowhere to be seen and probably won't surface before the next decade.
What experience will this "joint-venture" give us. We didn't design the plane, its avionics, its components, its power-plant and yet we are to believe that our HAL employees are engaged in some cutting edge 5th gen research in Russia?
It has been stated that the FGFA will differ from the PAK-FA only in terms of avionics and software- since we don't hear anything about any new or high value Indian avionics component (radar, RWR, MAWS and/or IRST) being developed for the FGFA one can assume it will be akin to the MKI project. So how can a MKI like project end up being valued in the high billions even in the developmental stage? It seems absurd but what would I know?
It is specious to even assume that this project will magically provide us with the know-how and manufacturing wherewithal to roll out cutting edge indigenous platforms in the future. At best we'll end up with operational freedom and sovereignty- with the software codes so that we may integrate weapons, pods, add-ons or modify certain things. We will probably end up with a customized variant and have the freedom to integrate third party non-OEM produced avionics due to the same reason but nothing more. Along with M-ToT. Beyond which we will probably see a mismanaged, under-productive HAL production line trying to churn up the required numbers while hanging on to quality standards by the skin of its teeth. Do you envision anything drastically different than that?
Exactly what concrete areas are we getting "experience" in that it justifies such a large splurging of funds? Will it teach us how to develop and manufacture an indigenous 5th gen engine? Will it teach us how to formulate complex flight control logic? Will it teach us how to produce the various advanced materials required? Will it teach us how to develop advanced IRST/optronics sensors? Will it teach us how to design VLO/LO air frames? I for one highly doubt it.
Most probably we will end up with having been provided with glimpses into all these processes which MIGHT give us some clues and given our own track-record with optimally utilizing what we have garnered from such costly ventures (HDW-209 for eg.)nothing path-breaking will materialize from such "experience" gained down the line. Again, do you foresee anything the drastically different than that?
All in all it feels like we are being taken for a ride, AGAIN.
Even more obfuscating are statements like the one below-
"In his turn, Indian air force chief of staff told journalists at the recent Aero India show that he expects arrival of three PAKFA development prototypes in India, the first in 2015, the second in 2017 and the third in 2018. Air Marshall N. A. K. Browne said that the design and development phase of what India calls the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) is proceeding well under “a small-value contract.” When it is completed later this year, India and Russia will sign a new R&D contract “which is the mother of all phases,” he added."
quoted from this article- http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ain-defense-perspective/2013-03-01/russia-india-describe-next-gen-fighter-plans
The same article also provides this snippet- "Pogosyan further insisted that both Russian and Indian versions “will be based not only on the same platform, but also have identical onboard systems and avionics.” Indian air force specialists had been involved in working out specification to the aircraft “from the very beginning and through all development phases.” He continued, “It may happen that in future there will be some specific [national] requirements for onboard systems or additional missions, but these would be formally agreed by both customers.” Pogosyan expects the FGFA to follow the Su-30MKI/MKM example, in which the Indian and Malaysian air forces use the very same platform, with the difference confined to a few avionics items.”
Given that the FGFA and the PAK-FA will use the same radar,same engine, same air-frame and broadly the same components then how come a "R&D phase" is required given that the prototypes are already flying, the radar has already been developed with only the final version engine remaining? That too a phase which is said to cost 11 billion $! Is this some sort of a cruel jape? IF the FGFA is nothing more than a "MKIzed" variant of the PAK-FA, which it very much seems to be then why is there a need for such an expensive R&D phase? Since we've already dropped the plans for a two seater variant that removes the need to change control surfaces etc., so what exactly are we going to be "researching and developing"?
IAF has already accused HAL of giving up half of India's share in he development work. Given that HAL can't EVEN produce MKIs at the required rate*- further accentuating exactly how "useful" this grand org. actually is- what hope do we have of providing timely deliveries for the FGFA even a decade down the line? Seems like people at the MOD got a large helping from the gravy train when they took this decision.
*http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/awx_03_06_2013_p0-555592.xml
To RAMA: An operational fleet of SSBNs always demands the employment of an SSN force three times the size of the SSBN fleet. SSKs are meant only for littoral warfare & therefore will become irrelevant the moment naval warfighting doctrine changes in tune with transformations in sea-control doctrines adopted by the IN the moment it starts acquiring fleets of SSBNs, SSGNs & SSNs.
To AMARDEEP: Instead of acquiring a second Akula-2 SSGN, focus has now shifted to the procurement of nine SSNs & Russia has proposed a design that features high commonality with the design of the Arihant SSBN. INS Kolkata’s commissioning will now be done in early 2014. INS Kamorta, which recently commenced her sea-trials, experienced some flooding in her compartments & had to return back to GRSE for necessary repairs.
To PINKAL SHAH: Only some alien life-forms are silicon-based, not all. Reliance on fossil-fuels cannot be eliminated overnight, since that will cause the collapse of the global financial/banking system. It has to be done gradually, like how only Brazil has been allowed to build & sustain an eco-system based on ethanol.
To SUBIR: 1) No. That SSK is now a permanent write-off. 2) You won’t find it there or in any other map. 3) Time has now come to focus entirely on SSNs & modify the Project 75I programme into one for acquiring nine SSNs. Without SSNs, the S-2, S-3 & S-4 SSBNs will be sitting ducks while undertaking operational patrols. MDL can always produce Class 209/Type 1500 SSKs. 4) No. SSNs are reqd more urgently. 5) No, they still don’t.
To DEFENSE & AEROSPACE: Not Shtora. Instead, APS has been specified.
To THINKTANK: Ukraine has indeed done a lot of serious R & D on a new-generation turbofan for Gen-5 MRCAs & it could well find its way on China’s two stealthy MRCAs that are presently undergoing flight-tests.
To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: Singapore-based marine salvage companies were also employed in the past by both the IN & DG Shipping & they will be employed this time as well. The crew of the ill-fated SSK could never have survived the raging fires inside the SSK since the propellants of the missiles cannot be extinguished that easily & were the cause of deformation of the inner hull & compartments.
To JOYDEEP GHOSH: That appears unlikely, since the SSK’s batteries were charged 3 days prior to the accident. Topmost priority should now be accorded to acquiring SSNs, not any more SSKs. Production of Class 209/Type 1500 SSKs can be undertaken even now by MDL. Hovercraft can be used along riverine areas throughout India, even in the North East. However, in Ladakh this isn’t possible due to low levels of oxygen prevailing in such areas.
To REDDY: It’s elementary: what we’re talking about is not just the mere ‘lifting’ of the hull, but it’s salvage, meaning portions of the hull will have to be cut apart before they can be lifted. This is a very intricate process for which a high-level of expertise is required. The Singapore-based salvage companies that specialise in such operations (they also salvaged the INS Vindhyagiri), however, sub-contract most of the labour-intensive work packages to those Mumbai-based companies that have on their payroll specialist ex-IN divers, cutters & welders. The lifting of the SSK’s wreckage cannot be done from the top, i.e. through cranes, but from the bottom (sea-bed) so as not to break up the hull into several pieces.
To ANKIT: Procurement contract itself has not yet been inked, so how can delivery schedules be finalised???
To ARUP: Every disaster that is man-made is due to sequential mis-steps, be it a train/aircraft crash or an accidental explosion inside a submarine. And the starting point is always a technical malfunction. Two Type 877EKM SSKs, this SSK as well as the one that was ripped open by HSL in Vizag, are permanent write-offs. The entire superstructure of INS Sindhurakshak has been compromised & deformed due to the severe heat generated by burning propellants of the missiles on-board. No one can undo such damage. Regarding the LoC, do read this:
http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/pmo-to-blame-for-soldier-deaths#.Ugb6-laU4Ao.gmail
To BHASWAR: In the US by Lockheed Martin & they also taught ADA how to carry on the work forward. Only when you stand beside the full-scale mock-up of the Barak-2 will you be able to do an accurate comparison between the Barak-2 & MIM-104 PAC-3. SRBMs of 1980s & 1990s vintage adopt depressed ballistic flight trajectories & therefore cruise at altitudes of 18km and 16km.
To RAMA: What we’re talking about is not just the mere ‘lifting’ of the hull, but it’s salvage, meaning portions of the hull will have to be cut apart before they can be lifted. This is a very intricate process for which a high-level of expertise is required. The Singapore-based salvage companies that specialise in such operations (they also salvaged the INS Vindhyagiri), however, sub-contract most of the labour-intensive work packages to those Mumbai-based companies that have on their payroll specialist ex-IN divers, cutters & welders. The lifting of the SSK’s wreckage cannot be done from the top, i.e. through cranes, but from the bottom (sea-bed) so as not to break up the hull into several pieces.
To VIKRAM GUHA: Area 51 atop the dry Groom Lake is totally different from Area S-4 atop the dry Papoose Lake. The flying-disks are stored at S-4, which lies adjacent to Area 51.
Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gVm5UOo5oeo
How the hijack of IC-814 could have been averted.
VMT Sir,
So is the ADA now fully proficient at the job of developing flight control logic? Or are there still hurdles which remain?
So will the Barak-8 and/or the Barak-ER be tested against inbound SRBMs and NLOS-BMs? What of the current crop of NLOS-BMs like the SY-400, do they also employ a depressed trajectory cruise?
Won't CSL end up losing the considerable amount skilled manpower i has developed, specially in terms of high quality welding in the process of building the IAC-1 since we will have o wait for quite some time for IAC-2 to be green lit- also since they don't manufacture naval ships anyway- at least not till they landed the contract for IAC-1?
Hi prasun
VMT for all ur efforts. Salute to you for handling all the events single handedly... great effort...
I am keen reader of ur blog, reads all ur comments.... although sometimes I really don't agree with ur views but on the large I totally agree with you... that's why asked u questions and got satisfying answers and info that none other blog or site could give...
Once again thanks a lot!!!
regards,
Amol(AG)
Thank you for your repliy. Forgot to add name so reposting (Please excuse for making it double work for you)
Modifying P75-I specs in favor of an Indigenous SSN (Based on Arihant) will be a great move by Indian Navy. But what could possibly be the time frame with in which the first SSN can be inducted (5-8 years?). As per a senior Navy officer India looking for 2 more Akula class attack subs (which can actually become a stop gap measure for our dwindling submarine force).
As per your calculations if 3 SSNs were required for 1 SSBN, then with 3 Aircraft carriers (each requiring at least 2 SSNs) the total number of SSNs may shoot up to 15 which is close to your figure of 18 (or even 20) SSNs (If we include few more for dedicated clandestine operations).
Type 209 ssk is of 1980's or even older design. Many more designs have evolved after that (i.e., Type 212, Type 214, and the conceptual Type 216). Why should IN opt for such an old design? Inducting more Scorpenes (with MESMA) wouldn't be cost efficient? (like 10 - 12, With faster rate of induction) which also ensures a single platform. Your take. Thank you.
Until we pump massive amounts of money into R&D into public institutions, until we force/encourage private companies into R&D, we can not achieve very much as we often spoke.
Indians need to think out of box, goes into adventures, informed thinking, critical assessment, and risk taking.
US/USSR lost number of scientists, money, and efforts to bring great products.
There is a saying: It is insane to expect different results while doing the same thing again and again.
Indians didn't contribute much into modern science. Even if we take either into IT or pharmacy, we merely make it into services. In IT, we are cheap workers due to foreign conversion, in pharmacy again the same and tapping expired patents based on the valuable work done by Western companies. We are not skilled to say it properly.
Can anyone name an Indian product designed and developed in India, that is revolutionary, either in terms of concept or technology? we often just mimic products and concepts.
if we have some money in our household we tend to buy gold, a shit piece of metal useful for nothing but draining foreign reserves.
At-least we are not disciplined personally or industrially. we need lean thinking.. I mean LEAN, not just lean.
Our institutions are making us into good physical labourers nothing more. Even our present private engineering colleges are the worst to mention. None of them are employable, leave alone entrepreneurs.
We need introspection.
"SAIL is now developing DMR 292A, special steel for the hull of Indian submarines" Is it a De-magnetized steel or a very high strength version of warship grade steel developed earlier? Thank you.
To BHASWAR: Yes, ADA is now fully proficient in developing flight-control logic, while DARE is fully proficient in developing digital flight-control computers. All that now remains to be done is to operationalise the electronic systems testing ranges at Chitraguda that will enable ADA & the IAF to accurately measure RCS & EMP/EMI parameters. 70km-range Barak-2 LR-SAM will easily be able to intercept BLOS-BSMs & SRBMs while the & Barak-8ER LR-SAM will have even greater capabilities. All present-day China-developed NLOS-BSMs & SRBMs have depressed trajectory flight profiles. CSL will be kept busy with the construction of the projected four LPHs & I can only hope that the LPH design is an indigenous one (i.e. a shortened version of the IAC-1) since it makes no sense now to go for imported LPH designs. By the time the LPH project is completed, work can begin on IAC-2 at CSL.
By the way, the Indian Navy’s GSAT-7 satellite will be launched from Kourou, French Guyana, on August 30, 2013 (http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/august-launch-for-isros-first-defence-satellite/article4963869.ece?homepage=true)
To AMOL(AG): VMT indeed.
To SS: If the SSN fabrication contract is given to Larsen & Toubro as well, then the first unit can be rolled out in less than five years, since L & T now has a customised shipyard capable of handling all such work at Kattupalli in Tamil Nadu. This is a really huge facility that is comparable in every respect to the one at China’s Jiangnan-Changxing island off Shanghai. Procuring leased SSGNs from another country won’t serve any purpose since such SSGNs will have no wartime utility. The nett financial gainer in all such leasing programmes will be only Russia. Consequently, better to invest this money on indigenous SSN construction programmes. The design of the Class 209/Type 1500 SSK is not by any stretch of the imagination an old one. It is still a very potent design/platform since after its mid-life upgrade, its entire combat management system, sonar suite & periscopes have been upgraded & today the very same such systems on board the Class 212/Class 214 SSKs are also on board the Class 209/Type 1500 SSKs. In fact, the Class 209/Type 1500 SSKs are the only one in the world to incorporate unique rescue spheres for their crew complement. These SSKs can easily remain in service in service for another 15 years, at the very least. The same goes for the Pakistan Navy’s Agosta 70 SSKs, which are being refitted with the same SUBTICS combat management system & sonar suites that are to be found on board the Agosta 90B & Scorpene SSKs. DMR-292A is not demagnetised steel. Degaussing is still resorted to for demagnetizsing the hulls of all naval vessels.
To Anon@10.09PM: “Indians didn't contribute much into modern science.”----------------Really???
India had indeed produced visionaries of the level of Albert Einstein, such as Srinivasa Ramanujan, but regretfully, India subsequently forgot to carry forward the legacy & today we have the Caucasians from the West who are highlighting the genius of Ramanujan & producing docu-dramas on him, while no such effort is emanating out of India. That’s the saddest part.
Thanks PrasunDa.
Staying with Ramanujam and engineering in India why has Bengal not been able to produce another Satyendra Nath Bose or Meghnad Shaha.
Bengalis are not known for producing successful businessmen like Gujaratis , Marwaris , Parsis etc but why not leading scientists , intellects ?
Thanks,
Vikram
Hello Mr. Sengupta.
A few questions for you from my side -
1) What propulsion system does P-15A DDG use? What country is it from?
2) Has DAE begun development (or "upscaling", as you called it) of the 83MW PWR to 190MW standards?
How many years do you think it will take for this 190MW PWR to be ready?
3) What type of propulsion system is present on China's Liaoning aircraft carrier?
4) Is China building an indigenous carrier? Is it STOBAR or CATOBAR? Is it a replica of Liaoning or a whole new design?
5) By what time will the Shenyang J-15 fighters be fully qualified in all aspects (flight testing, weapons integration, radars/electronics integration etc.) to operate from aircraft carriers?
6) If China is really building an indigenous carrier, what aircraft will it operate?
7) Is there anyone in India putting some effort to design an indigenous LPH/LPD-type ship?
What will the Navy ultimately favour? Indigenous one or a foreign LPH/LPD? (like Mistral)
8) If we build an indigenous LPH, what aircraft do you suppose it will be able to operate?
9) Any plans to procure any version of V-22 Osprey for future carrier-borne/LPH-borne ops?
10) Is it possible to make N-FGFA be able to take off with EMALS? Is it viable?
11) How many LPHs/LPSs do you think India will ultimately procure?
12) What are India's ultimate carrier plans? How many CBGs do we plan to have at any given time?
Will we build follow-on IAC-2s after Vikramaditya/Vikrant near retirement age?
13) How many CBGs does China plan to have in total?
Sir, VMT.
1.The Kilo class is a double hulled sub.The inner hull may have been extensively damaged but the outer hull may be intact to some degree except for the forward part of the sub.During WW2 many ac carriers with bomb craters in their flight decks and with extensive damage o the inner compartments were repaired and put back to sea and so was ffg,ddg .Isnt there any way round this.I earnesty thought that it wouldnt be a writeoff.
2.What will be the cardinal differences between the Arihant class ssgn and the projected SSN being suggetsed by Russia.Wil they also displace 6000+ tons. Can you give some of its details.
3.If the contract for the 9 SSN goes to a design bureau of Russia there wont be much strategic importance of France to us.France won the MMRCA deal nt nly because of the higher costs of Typhoon but also France promised to coopearte with us in designing our own line of SSN based on the Barracuda class and also in providing technical expertise for developing the hot end modules of Kaveri.MoD has invited companies to assist GTRE in developing the Kaveri.So what will be France's importance to us.
4.In the 1st Aero India 2013 thread you informed us about IAF's plans to have a fixed-base full-mission simulator at each of its existing and projected air bases that house/will house the Su-30MKIs. What happened to this plan ??
5.Are such facilties as Naval Armament Storage depots well protected?Is the one in Pigeon Island larghe enough to accomodate enough stocks. Pigein Island itself is very small.
6.Will it be possible to complete repairs on INS Kamorta and commission it into service this year itself?
7.Is there any firm date from which the super upgrade of the Su30 will commence.I have been hearing since 2011 that Su30 are being upgraded. And how are things going on the Rafale front.
8.Is IA fully satified with the Arjen mk1A .State trials are now being carried out in Mahajan field firing range.Will there be more orders for this variant if the trials are succesfull.
9.What about the deep upgrade of the 1st batch of T-90A? There were some news of IA officials visiting T-90 Oem in Uralvagonzavod.Were any deals struck reagrdinng upgrade of the rest. And what about APS selection of TY-90S? Leds-140 was selected in 2009.4 years have passed bt not a single tankl had been equipped with them.
Hi Prasun ,
Shtora is used by the Russians for electronic jamming and ARENA as the APS on their T 90s .
Why doesn't the Indian Army need the Shtora ?
Will the Indian Army still go for the LEDS 150 now that the LEDS 350 is available ?
VMT for the answers Sir,
I would like to reiterate my question. Exactly what are we gaining from the FGFA program given that it seems to be a MKI version of the PAK-FA? SPECIALLY considering the amount of money we are spending? Shall we be able to acquire the know how and know why related to essential components such as SCBs?
How can we produce a SSN within 5 years given that the 150MW reactor alone will take that much time to fructify? Even IF we could do so it is highly unlikely that the MOD shall see sense, or is there even the remotest of chances that such a decision is being considered?
Furthermore shouldn't we stay away from any offer to design a SSN for us? Consultancy and help are well and good but if we outsource the designing then we will be stuck with a situation where the IP/IR will remain with the foreign designing agency not to mention that our own agencies will not gain any valuable hands on designing experience? Furthermore, given the Russian track record with nuke boats and their numerous accidents wouldn't it be better to not take any further help from them and rather follow your proposition of getting a firm like DCNS (Barracuda SSN) to serve as a consultant and risk sharer perhaps?
Also, why are the news agencies claiming that the Arjun Mk.2 is undergoing trials? I though it would still be the Mk.1A variant- is the current variant which is undergoing trials any different from the last product we had laid eyes on- considering that reports suggest that all the proposed "75 improvements" have been incorporated in the article being tested?
I believe that the PDV missile is to be tested this year, is that true? How is it different from the PAD missile?
Also, isn't the Kattupalli shipyard still incomplete, phase-2 is yet to be completed no?
I believe that Pipavav shipyard is already capable of modular construction with its block making facility?
Wasn't the Garden Reach shipyard being upgraded too, is that process complete now like in the case of Mazagon?
How many of our yards are now capable of modular construction?
Also when will the Advanced Heavy Water reactor, which will operate on a thorium fuel cycle, be fabricated and made operational?
we must re-dedicate all of our IITs and IIMs to DRDO/military, so that only those guys who want to serve the country can be given education, not to provide manpower to western companies at the expense of Indian Tax Payers Money.
India must scrap the stock market concept all together to redefine the value of money.
G-Sat 14: 6 Ku tps and 6 C tps
Eutelsat3D: 3 Ka tps and 53 Ku tps
ChinaSat11: 19 Ku tps and 26 C tps
SES 6: 36 Ku tps and 38 C tps.
Still longway to go for ISRO.
This is where ISRO has to work rather than on Mars, Human Space exploration, Chandrayaan...
Dear Sir,
Thank you very much for your reply
1. But as per your views only some life-forms are silicon based so that means such life-forms are advanced civilization than ours, apart from this remaining alien life-forms are Carbon-based same as us
2. Also for my first point in previous comment claims pertaining to various persons and scientists claiming that alien life is based on Silicon rather than carbon as on earth and even if they exists they may not be able to visit us for various reasons such as they do not have any crisis on their planet so that they have look out for new habitable planet or Earth is totally on different Biology & Atmospherically from their home so they consider Earth as uninhabitable & unworthy of visit, also i had came across claims such as even if extraterrestrial life exists than it may be behind earth evolution & young civilization. Please kindly give your vies point on this specific question.
3. Are such silicon-based life forms had also visited our planet?
Please enlighten us more on this matter & also kind request for any links to study & understand on alien life-forms & there civilization.
4. Do you have any update on ISRO satelite GSAT-8,10 as the are bieng launche dany also in-orbit testing phase is completed so what is the present status of this satellites
Also what is problem related to INSAT-4 series satellites as such there are many which are saying that these satellites are now operating under power anomaly due to solar panel issues.
Kindly put some light in this matter
Also recently INSAT-3D also have such problems as per various news agencies please kindly explain about this.
Eagerly awaiting your reply,
Thanking you in advance,
@Prasun da
you are proposing a rethink on P75I and going in favor for SSNs, which if adopted would need to be 15-20 in no. for providing any kind of benefit other than securing CBGs/SSGNs/SSBNs.
But if Russia is ready is ready to provide design for SSNs as you say what happens to the French Barracuda design or even the P75I.
Btw dont you think point all the eggs in 1 basket vis a vis SSK to nuclear propulsion will be actually too much cost intensive and will take more time to fructify.
Instead it will be much better idea to increase the number P75 subs to 18-20 with first 6 currently left alone and next 6 being AIP powered.
By the time the last batch of P75 Scorpenes will enter production it will be time for the 1st P75 scorpene for upgrade/refit, this is the time when we can try and add a missile firing capsule / module into it and test it, if tits successful then remaining 5 of the first batch of P75 Scorpenes can be added with missile firing capsule / module and with the facility of AIP module as a add on already there the 1st batch of 6 P75 scorpenes will have immense potential.
Once that is done the 3rd batch of P75 Scorpene can easily include AIP and missile firing modules.
Similarly when it will be time for 2nd batch of P75 Scorpenes (AIP powered)to be upgraded then we can add the missile firing modules in to them (which would have been successfully tried and tested by now, if opted for).
This will mean that all 18 scorpenes will eventually be AIP powered and missile firing subs.
Believe me if this pattern is adopted that not only we wil be able to develop a wide knowhow on sub building but eventaully the cost incurred for P75 will be recovered.
Once that is done India could refocus on developing Type 209 SSK (on whose ToT we have sat long enough) with missile & AIP modules with more indian elements (india made steel), much the same way as we are now doing with the Bofors guns.
This is just an idea which i know no one will pay attention to.
Btw as per you INS Arhidhaman will be launched 30% faster than INS Arihant, if that is so i expect the sub to be launched by 2013 end, what your say.
Thanks
Joydeep Ghosh
Also, sir, you mentioned that a 8500Km ranged SLBM was to be developed with some consultancy from the Russians- in the page related to the ELF facility being built, back in 2012.
I thought the final iteration of the Indian SLBM program would terminate a 6000Km? Also isn't it risky to opt for such consultancy services from the Russians given that if they are involved then it might impinge on our operational sovereignty wrt SLBM- as in certain restrictions on its deployment and usage might get placed on us- is that remotely possible?
Furthermore why would we need such help at all given that almost all the building blocks necessary for the SLBM are already in place?
Also the article wrt the up-rated PWR only mentions sanctioning for the civilian 900MW PWR and does not mention any official clearance cum sanction of funds for the marine 180 and 150MW reactors. Has the sanction been officially provided, has the project been green lit?
They’re back:
http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=807356
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Army-troops-sight-UFO-in-Ladakh-again/articleshow/21894463.cms
Sir,
1.In IAF in country operational deployments thread, there isn't any mention of Mig-21 bis deployed in any Iaf station.Then where are they?
2.Out of 150 bis inducted in between 1977 and 1984, how many still remain in active service ?
3.Instead of leasing some Russian Navy Kilo class ssk why can't we buy them and have full operational sovereignty.
4.Has there recently been any progress in acquistion ofan interim five to eight regiments of Qrsam for Army ?
5.Is Hal Nashik still churning out just 14 Su-30mki pa. Won'tthere be any expansion of production facilties.
6.Is the Ags-30 being licensed produced by Ofb and s it Army's standard automatic grenade launcher.
7. Isn't this Ufo much different from the others. t has descended to a much lower altitude than the previous ones. Its more of a flying saucer than a glowing object.Maybe it belongs to a different species of humanoids than the prvious ones. But why are they so interested in that portion of Ladakh. Inhabitants of the region say that tgey are common and there's nothing to wory about them.
@Prasun Da,
The Videos on Indian Independence is insightful and dis-heartening because we still have the remnants of the old British rule in our Babu culture among the political class. Keep up the feeds Sir.
Regd Ladakh - Are the Army going to heed to your advice and try bring them down this time? Could they in any way be related to the Dropas?
PRASUN,
Can MDL make an upgrade version of Class 209/Type 1500 SSK with the help of HDW.Just like the Israeli Navy's
upgraded version of the older Dolphins class ssk, featuring an AIP system & it is one of the most sophisticated and capable conventionally powered submarines in the world now.
Prasun Da ,
Did you read this latest news .
Network security agreements that Reliance Communications and VSNL signed with U.S. government departments oblige them to share data carried on their infrastructure and assist the U.S. in its surveillance programme.
http://www.frontline.in/the-nation/indian-help/article4982631.ece?homepage=true
Regards,
Sujoy
India should make a law for news industry.
1. every news medium (print/electronic)must mention the source of the news/reporter's name who sourced the news
2. all news reporters must be suitably qualified for the news they are providing.
3. all private news houses should be banned from publishing editorials/opinions
4. private news channels must be restricted, not to do analysis, there by promoting someone's or it's vested interests, where as they should be only permitted to publish only real and verifiable news.
5. a news should be only news but not propaganda. to strictly adhere to this rule, each and every article should be sent in digital form to a Govt news repository with an id format prescribed by govt so that people can report/register concern in that repository towards any such article there by govt can monitor the news agency for any deviations from healthy standards and can review every 3 months for auditing purpose.
Sir, watch these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NylZw7U95UU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT0uMo_TmiU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf5DOpWtRfg
1.The Roswell incident was a man made one.That alien spacecraft was shot down most probably by a modified tesla ray weapon on a F-86.LM has built nucleared powered flying saucers which employed anti gravity technology in the 1960s itself. This senior sciencetist very clearly says that everything we believe as UFOs are not of ET origin.
2.Why doesnt LM ,NG and other aerospace firms sue these electro gravtic and anti gravitic technolgies in B-2,F-22 or F-117.USA has definitely the core engineering data of electro gravtic propulsion and can well build fighter sized flying saucers.Why hasnt Uncle Sam done this yet.
3.With such serious hardware and mastery over electro gravtics USA will be and is having the upper hand over virtually all nations.Our,China's and for that matter any country's defenses are useless in the face of such alien tech. Then why is Uncle Sam afraid of China's growing military prowess.
4.Boyd Bushman also says that a Ele sized asteroid will pass between Earth and Moon in 2020s and it will fall in Siberia in 2036 but he also confidently said that it was being tracked.The Americans may have also come up with tech of deflecting such asteroids.
5.Is Russia also doing R&d on such high tech stuff.Is she currently also having such inter planetary spaceplanes and acs employing anti gravitic stuff.
Prasun Da is there an UFO base in Kongka La Pass ?
http://ufosightingshotspot.blogspot.in/2013/03/kongka-la-pass-ufo-base-in-himalayas.html
and Secondly,
Is there any progress on ISRO's rendezvous and docking (RVD) experiment mission, as well as AVATAR RLV-TD ?
Kindly Share,
Thanks in advance.
Prasunda,
Few months ago US navy conducted exercise with Indian Navy regarding submarine rescue operation with their DSRV. It was at that time only highlighted that US rescue vehicles can only save the shishumar class subs & not the Kilo ones. Why after that no step was taken to safeguard the kilos. Even Russia don't have much expertise or technology in attending their own subs in distress.
Just going through the site of Swedish Kockums I found out that they have some innovative DSRV models. It would be wise if we order some vehicles from them.
This stupid Subir has crossed all limits . Look at his statement
"Why doesnt LM ,NG and other aerospace firms sue these electro gravtic and anti gravitic technolgies in B-2,F-22 or F-117" .
Doesn't he realize that B 2 was designed by NG and F 22 by LM .
So basically they should file court cases against themselves .
Subir should immediately check into a mental asylum .
Srry sir. It should read why doesnt LM,NG integrate such tech into.... It was a typing error really. I aint dumb enough to write such statements anon.Read the rest of that point. By thw way one sues other persons ,orgainzations,comapnies,institutions.There is nthing as sueing technolgies.Learn a bit more english anon.
"The UFO sighting on August 4 comes after reports suggested that a top-level science research institute had found that the UFOs were actually planets Jupiter and Venus, which are clearly visible from the high altitude and thin atmosphere terrain of Ladakh.
The reports said that the research institute had found out that the Army troops deployed in the area had mistaken the two planets as UFOs."
The army can not be confused or mistaken in this matter. They also must have been watching Jupiter and Venus in the open night skies since dozens of years.
Sir, news is coming in that 5 Pak Army posts have been destroyed in firing by Indian Army personnel across LoC.
Can you verify and confirm the news if possible?
To VIKRAM GUHA: They have already been produced & most of these PhD-holders are all based in the US & that’s why one doesn’t hear about them inside India. Why else do you think there are more than 26 different Durga Pujas organized every year in the New York-New Jersey areas? Such folks will only thrive & proper in areas where knowledge-based societies exist & consequently, naturally, India would be the last place for them to reside & work. Don’t believe me? Then just read this:
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?287392
Two years ago I had already predicted that this would happen. Let this be a textbook case of how India as a ‘Refusing to Develop Country’ kills innovation & entrepreneurship.
To K SHANKAR: 1) Gas turbines from Ukraine & Bergen diesels from the UK. 2) Yup. About eight years. 3) Same as that on the Kuznetsov. 4) Yes, one is being built as a STOBAR & will be a clone of Liaoning & the other as a CATOBAR. 5) By 2017. 6) J-15s for now. 7) Not yet. IN always prefers indigenous solutions. But this has to be supported & directed wholeheartedly by the Govt-in-power 8) 12-tonne NMRHs like AW-101 or CH-53K. 9) Still too expensive. 10) Of course. Why not? 11) At least three. 12) Three. Of course. 13) One for each of its three fleets.
To SUBIR: 1) Only inner hulls are armoured, outer hulls are not as they serve to only reduce hydrodynamic drag by covering the ballast tanks & their pumps/pipings that are mounted outside the inner hull. Catastrophoc damage to INS Sinfhurakshak wasn;t caused by warhead detonation at all, but by triggering of the propellants within the missiles/torpedoes, as was the case with the torpedoes of the Kursk SSGN. Had the warheads detonated, then the entire hull of the SSK would have lost structural integrity & salvaging of the hull would have been impossible. Therefore, just like the Kursk SSGN, this was a case of the propellants of the on-board Novator 3M54E/3M14E cruise missiles burning off & detonating the two on-board TEST-71 torpedoes. Since the warheads of the missiles were not armed, they did not explode. 2) Any SSN will be much smaller, displacing not more than 5,000 tonnes. 3) French companies can always come in as sub-contractors for supplying various sub-systems & even armaments. And no one in the world will give any technical expertise for developing hot-sections of any turbofans. It has to be developed in-house by GTRE & GTRE can very well do it if the right amount of R & D funding is made available 4) The plan is being implemented in phases. Nothing happens in one go or overnight. 5) What kind of question is that?????? 6) No. Sea-trials last for more than 6 months for any lead vessel. 7) No. 8) Yes. 9) Answered that several times before.
To DEFENSE & AEROSPACE: Simple physics. Shtora-1 being an active jammer can only jam optronic sensors that are active, i.e. emitting like IR illuminators or laser rangefinders. It is useless against passive IR sights with lock-on-before-launch capabilities or passive thermal imagers. Consequently, in terms of full-spectrum protection-levels, the Shtora-1 becomes far inferior to APS & therefore for the IA the APS is more preferable.
To BHASWAR: 1) It is HAL that will re-learn the art of designing & developing a 5th generation MRCA. HAL’s ARDU even today does not possess even half the R & D capabilities of ADA. 2) Finalising the SSN’s design alone will take 3 years while fabrication of the first hull will take another five years. The PWR’s design can be completed within 3 years but its shore-based prototype will have to be tested & validated for 5 years at the very least, just like the S-1/Half-Boat was at Kalpakkam. 4) The SSN’s design effort will be joint, just as has been the case with the SSBN programme. IPR restrictions—be they from Russia or France--will apply to only select sub-systems & not to the entire submarine design. Phase-1 of L & T’s new shipyard at Kattupalli is more than enough to handle all forms of shipbuilding activities. Phase-2 can be completed within 14 months if reqd.
To PINKAL SHAH: 3) Of course. See this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wDbldW9pNE&playnext=1&list=PLD1C78DED6E833A3C
4) No.
To JOYDEEP GHOSH: For undersea warfare dominance, the future is definitely in favour of SSNs, SSGNs & SSBNs. One such vessel can undertake the equivalent of two SSK operational patrols. Furthermore, the more such nuclear-powered vessels, the lesser the cost of building, maintaining & operating them. ALL six Scorpenes can be fitted with Stirling Engine AIP modules PROVIDED the IN & the MoD take a collective call on this issue, instead of wasting money on the indigenous AIP R & D venture of DRDO/NMRL. S-3 SSBN should be launched by first quarter of 2014.
To LITTLEMASTER: 1 & 2) 125 of them were upgraded to BISON configuration. The rest are being cannibalised for spares. 3) Who has ever said anything about lerasing Type 877EKM SSKs? 4) No. 5) Yes. No change. 6) No. 7) Possible. It could even be a reverse-engineered flying-disc used by the USAF.
To Ni8DWELLER: VMT. Hopefully, since that entire area of Aksai Chin & Eastern Ladakh has acquired much more importance in recent years not just for China & India, bit also for the US.
To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: Knew it all along. And don’t be surprised at all if the NSA has a data-analysis cooperative arrangement with India’s NTRO.
To SUBIR: Not a single F-86 was even flying in 1947.
To PINTU: 1) Unlikely. Avatar re-usable space vehicle will surface only in the following decade.
To RD: Russia too has DSRVs. And even if DSRVs were available, they would have been of no use WRT INS Sindhurakshak. Bit the IN is in dire need of its own DSRVs as well as new-generation submarine tenders.
Read this:
http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/too-close-for-comfort/article5035540.ece?homepage=true
Prasun Da,
Looks like Ladakh is no stranger to UFO Phenomenon as you've mentioned. They do go a long way in the past decade or so. Some old pics is coming out of the closet for now.
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/ufo-seen-in-ladakh-again-indian-army/1/300103.html
To Ni8DWELLER: VMT. Hopefully, since that entire area of Aksai Chin & Eastern Ladakh has acquired much more importance in recent years not just for China & India, but also for the US. ---
How for US ?please explain.
Sir, VMT.
1.Cant IAF & Drdo buy the detailed designing and production engineerring data of the 5thgen turbofan being developed by Ukraine.It can be used to power the Tejas mk2 and other future jets and make us self reliant.With the right amount of money Ukraine may lend us the detailed data on the hot end components also.
2.The sister subs of INS Sindhurakshak that were berthed close by,has their damages caused by the explosion repaired yet.
3.http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/intercepts-of-pak-responding-to-firing-along-line-of-control/287434?curl=1376888077
Why is IA using L70 Bofors?Its a AAA .
4.All L70 Bofors have been upgraded.They now have electro mechanical drive with full automatic laying.They are also radar controlled.Why in this video the operators had to lay the gun manually ??Operators are required nly for loading 5 round strips and firing.
Is the associated fire control Reporter radar close by?
5.In the pics of the recent outstation weapons trials of Tejas in Jamnagar airbase released by ADA there wasnt any Derby Bvraam firings.Ws nly R73E test fired ?
6.Why isnt Tejas mk1 using light AGM ,ALCM :Delliah,Popeye Lite,Kh59ME and standoff PGM :Spice 250,Spice 1000 and LGB ??
.Spice 2000 is too heavy for its carriage.It seems nly the WW2 era OFB manufactured dumb bombs were dropped.Will it the primary AG weapon of Tejas ?
7.Was that LDP Litening 2 ?Uptill now were any trials conducted with the new design radome ?
8.The Netrani/Pigeon islands which i viewed thru Google Earth are too small to have any meaningful facilities,infrastucture and weapons depots. Whats the equivalent of Pigeon Island for the Eastern and Southern fleets ?
9.What are the agendas of the tri services senior officals visit headed be Defense secretary to Russia ?Will there any procurement related talks.
10.Hindustam Times reported that IN HQ was looking at the option of leasinga few Russian Kilo class SSK. SSK will always be required unless we are having the type of underwater sonar network uncle Sam is having. SSN can be easily detected as they emit a lot of high temp water that are used for cooling the reactors.These streams of water can be detected with thermal imagers.For littoral warfare SSK will laways be required. SSN,SSGN,SSBN can be masked well if they cruise at great depths where the ciold sea water will just mask the heated waters.
Thanks sir. Does the delievery of SPYDER SAM completed?. Sir, from when the BAE M777 HOWTIZERS will be inducted in our army ?
Sir, why our army doesnt strong attack pakistani positions ? They need a strong message from india.
Thanks.
Thank You PrasuDa .
But aren't such data sharing agreement with a foreign country illegal ? This is a threat to national security .
More importantly even Indian companies will loose out as the US will get to know all their information .
I think someone needs to file a case against GOI and companies like VSNL & Reliance in the Supreme Court for carrying out anti national activities .
Thanks,
Sujoy
VMT for the answer sir.
So according to you when shall we see an Indian SSN at the latest, 10 years from now? Will it be relatively larger than the French SSN, so as to accommodate a viable land attack capability or shall it be designed as a smaller 4000-5000 ton sub while relegating the land attack role to the Arihant class subs once the proper boomers are manufactured?
Sir, wrt IP/IR question- what I meant was that if the Russians design a SSN for us then like in the case of the S-2 the COMPLETE IP/IR shall remain in their hands. Consultancy is another matter where they help us out in our own designing process and at best provide some sub-systems- even then wouldn't DCNS still be a better bet. The copious number nuclear sub accidents that the Russian/Soviet Navy has faced does not breed much confidence irrespective of the fact that much of our fleet- surface or sub-surface has been derived/acquired/leased from them.
Where is the IN's deperming and degaussing facility?
Is it possible to manufacture permanently demagnetized hull steel for subs? Has anyone done so yet?
Furthermore has the rate of in-country production for the MKIs reached an acceptable and desired level? IF so then are their any QC/QR issues involved- is the quality acceptable? IF the rate of production has not reached the desired level AND/OR the quality standards are below the IAF's expectations- then what's the reason for the same AND what can be done about it?
Is a titanium alloy hull still the best bet or have modern submarine steels eclipsed its attributes? If so did the Alfa class subs benefit from the titanium hull- given that titanium is far more expensive and probably difficult to work with. Do titanium hulls require deperming and degaussing too? If there are significant advantages attributable to a titanium hull, despite the cost and associated complexity, would it be viable for India to look in that direction?
Is our titanium metal sponge production capacity increasing- despite having a larger quantity of
rutile and ilmenite production than China we still lag behind in titanium sponge production? Why is that so and is it being rectified?
Are there are any concrete steps, studies, R&D research being taken/performed/conducted to minimize the acoustic and magnetic signature of our upcoming SSBNs and SSNs? How far behind do we lag in this specific area as compared to the Russians, Chinese, Americans and Europeans respectively?
The GSLV D5 launch was aborted, any idea as to which date it shall be rescheduled to?
What is the progress of the ELF facility construction?
I would like to reiterate my question- what is the progress wrt 8500Km SLBM that you had mentioned- I had sincerely thought that we would cap the range at 6000Km or will even the SLBM you had referred to be only tested out till a range of 6000Km despite having been designed with greater range performance?
Q-1 Also have we developed low magnetic steel?
Q-2 Will the follow on marine reactors (150 and 180/200 MW) have increased energy density and a higher core life of 25-30 years. What's core life of the reactor on the Arihant, when will it have to be refueled?
Q-3 Are there any ongoing efforts to develop spherical sonars? If so what are our prospects like in that field- how far along have we come? IF not then are there any concrete plans to start along that path- same with conformal sonar arrays?
Q-4 Why is the Sterling AIP a better option than the French MESMA? How do the both them stack up against the HDW AIP plug-in for the Type-209 and the separate AIP they developed for the Type-212?
Q-5 While we definitely need to develop and manufacture indigenous submarines- both nuclear and conventional what harm is there in acquiring niche systems like the AIP from foreign firms rather than trying to develop them in house by allocating considerable resources? Surely indigenous development and promotion does not require that every piece of equipment be manufactured/designed in country?
Prasun,
How will the Indian Army's T 90 and Arjun tank s protect themselves against cruise missiles like the Storm Shadow ?
From all accounts it seems they are practically helpless against cruise missiles and guided bombs like JDAMs.
Prasun Ji ,
Regarding that IC 814 video link that you have provided , why is the Govt not disclosing who the Chief Secretary of Meghalaya is to whom the information about the hijack was given ?
Apologies for the persistent questions, a new one seems to pop up every time I get off the desk.
Q-1 Have we acquired the know how and know why for the Scorpene subs just like in the case of the Type-209 subs along with the IR/IP rights? IF not then can we still do so.
Q-2 IF we have acquired the know how and know why along with the IP/IR then doesn't it make more sense to ensure that the current batch of submarines remain devoid of the MESMA module? We can produce a fresh batch afterwards with the Sterling AIP integrated from the very beginning and then later on integrate the same AIP plug in during the first major upgrade of the first batch of subs- given that Kokcums claims that it can integrate the Sterling AIP onto any existing SSK during a major upgrade without any risk? Wouldn't this be a far better alternative then starting another initiative such as the P-75I, allowing us to depend upon an existing class of SSKs which we are familiar with so that we can concentrate on developing and manufacturing SSNs?
Q-3 Since you've stated that the local suppliers have been unable to meet the QC/QR for components for the scorpene doesn't that mean that the whole point of acquiring the ToT is now rendered null and void? IF so then what mitigating steps can we take IF NOT then shall the latter batch of scorpenes be fitted with locally supplies components once our local industries can get the hang of the QC/QR standards?
Has any1 sees todays BBC poisonous title?
here below
"India puts off re-launch of failed satellite"
see their words: failed???
BBC has been doing this for the last 6 decades
Prasun Sir ,
Plz read when you have some time . Just a reminder how horrible the Indian Intelligence Bureaus are
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-08-03/news/41034009_1_intelligence-community-intelligence-bureau-ips
Sir on the advocation of SSNs,won't that completely break IN's bank?SSN's are 2-3 times more costly than ssks and also more noisy than SSKs by far.
Also our nuke reactor tech is immature and these first gen nuke subs will be noisy all the more.
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news_updates/nz1839.htm
This article states how even mighty USN has been repeatedly humiliated by SSKsin exercises sinking carriers.
In 2006 a chinese SSK tracked and surfaced within torpedo range of a usa CBG even.
With us being a mostly regional naval power and not a global one,and the fact that endurance of modern SSKs has been gretaly increased with AIP won't SSKs remain very relevant for IN?
2]Are the sensors fit on our upgraded kilos new or same old?How they would compare with chinese kilos.
3]Recently we recieved r-27 missiles from ukraine?Why ukraine not russia?And why r-27?
4]Will meteor be integrated into su-30 as IAF stated?
Sir,
1.How is HAL able to stick to just 14 Su30 per year even after so many years of production? Its gradually going up the learning curve.
2.Are there any expansion plans for HAL Nasik to ramp up license manufacturing of the sukhoi .
3.What are the kind of weapons being used by our troops along Loc?
4.How is IA responding to the repeated loc ceasfire violations? Is it still adopting shoot to miss.Were they bunkers which was destroyed by Army ?
5.What are the differences in production quality of LSP and SP Tejas .
6.Is IAF interested in making Tejas tandem seater a dual cockpit trainer for 4+ gen acs ?
7.And why is NDTV and other nes channel disclosing everything.It will ruin the value of the intel.Has Tunda disclosed any actionable intel which will help or forces bust terror camps and outfits.
Sir, 3 most posts have been destroyed on Pakistan side. There are 110 casualties on their sides mostly SSG personnel.There have been raids.Indian Army has atlast given a befitting reply at the time and place of our choosing to Pak army and SSG.Pak rangers are now showing white flag.
Best of luck to Nawaz Shariff.
@Anon 12:18AM
Any sources mate?
@Anonymous:- 12:18 AM
That's a rather bloated claim you've posted, bordering the hilarious. Can you provide some proof backing up said claim of a 100+ casualties incurred by the Pakistani army/SSG at the hands of the Indian forces?
@Anon August 20, 2013 at 12:18 AM
Are you the Gessler from pk defence site? you are just mentioning the rediff page with the news as much as a decade old, when mulayam was defence minister.
@Anon 3:50AM
No, dude, I'm Gessler from PDF/IDF.
That guy is not me.
to anon@ August 19, 2013 at 10:00 PM
i totally agree, i saw that headline, a really ridiculuous one.'relaunch of failed satellite?!!!' ...what is the meaning of a failed satellite, and if it is failed then why 're'launch it :).typical to TOI, but why BBC is sorting to such headlines, given that even now British are eons ahead of India in technology
to Abhishek Dhar, that argument is decades old, one thing most people forget is that with AIP though the undersea endurance is increased the speed is limited, it can only do hunting by ambush and not stalk and destroy at vast expanses of ocean.
SSNs typically are faster and though they might be more noisy searching them in vast ocean is not easy task. You may spot them if someone tells where to look for them. Also for CBG and SSBN escorts faster subs are required which conventional ones cant provide and least with AIP. i agree that cost and even bigger, the time to churn out 9 SSNs which might take atleast 15 years to be built is a minus. then subs are not cheap neither made in 3-4 years (scorpene is going to take 15 years in total to fully delivered).
to Prasunda, in Col Shuklas blog there were repeated mention of 'mud corps'...which corps is known as mud corps i could not find it in google (easily)
Sreenivas
Prasun Da ,
The Ruskies are claiming that this (INS Sindhurakshak) is a sabotage . Here is the link
http://indrus.in/blogs/2013/08/20/submarine_down_but_how_long_will_the_truth_stay_submerged_28631.html?fb_action_ids=10201294320495298&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582
The strange thing is Anthony has still not disclosed what caused the ignition in the first place ?
Thanks,
Sujoy
Prasun Da one more thing .
Did India sign a MoU with WPB Anders to manufacture light tanks in India ?
Thanks,
Sujoy
any news of summer trials of OFB Bofors gun??
To DASHU: Because of the various types of exercises now underway within the TAR by the PLA. Several new types of weapon systems are being deployed & tested out, especially this year.
To SUBIR: 1) Because China has already beat India to it. 2) They are being, now. 3) Why not? Why not Milan-2, Konkurs, 106mm RCL? After all, they were all used in direct-fire mode since 1996, when the Pakistan Army began using 37mm AAA & Baktar Shikan ATGMs against Indian bunkers in direct-fire mode. 4) Why should radars of any type be used for direct-firing—a task that can be done much better through manual gun-laying? 5) Because only aircraft equipped with airborne multi-mode pulse-Doppler fire-control radars can fire such BVRAAMs. 6) gravity bombs. 7) Not yet. 8) Weapons storage ‘igloos’ are always underground, not above ground. 10) No such matter is being discussed. SSNs always cruise at far more deeper depths than SSKs.
To AMARDEEP: Yes. LW-155s will be delivered from next year onwards. The IA’s response to provocations across the LoC has always been & will always be proportional in terms of intensity & firepower quality. And rightly so.
To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: No, they’re not. All such clauses are vetted & cleared by the Govt of India first. And like I had explained above, if the NSA is cooperating with the NTRO, then this is a case of cooperation & joint operations, & is therefore highly beneficial to India.
To BHASWAR: The IN’s projected SSN will not exceed 5,000 tonnes displacement. The IPR issue is irrelevant since India—unlike China--will never violate the terms & conditions of joint weapons development programmes & therefore Russia has & will continue to adopt a far more accommodative attitude toward India. In any case, India cannot build any submarine with totally 100% indigenous content & will therefore have to be dependent on several foreign OEMs for the next 30 years at the very least. Degaussing facilities exist at all operational naval bases of India. Titanium-alloys are always superior to all other forms of alloy-steels. India has traditionally been one of the largest exporters to titanium ore to countries like the US since the early 1970s & that’s why the US has always been sympathetic to India in terms of sharing high-tech know-how & know-why. Since the late 1990s, India’s titanium ore supplies began reaching Russia & titanium for the S-2/S-3/S-4/S-5 SSBNs have all come back processed from Russia. The 4,500km-range SLBM is now being developed, following which development of other long-range variants will be taken up. The LWRs/PWRs to be developed by the DAE will have much higher core-lives. The Arihant’s PWR has a core-life of only 10 years. Some R & D has begun on developing spherical sonar suites. Stirling AIP is a more proven & widely adopted solution by the Japanese & Chinese & Swedes. The Class 209/Type 1500 SSK licenced-production programme was unique. The Scorpene deal isn’t the same at all. Have already explained iot several times before since late 2011.
To DEFENSE & AEROSPACE: Cruise missiles like Storm Shadow are too expensive to be used against mobile armoured targets. Instead, PGMs like Brimstone or JAGM will be employed.
To AKHIL SURI: All the names were disclosed in that NewsX programme that was aired last week. But the entire programme wasn’t uploaded by NewsX on YouTube.
To Anon@9.27PM: The same thing happened with Abu Jundal as well. Looks like in India the trend is to make the print/electronic media the judge, jury & executioner. Definitely some folks from the country’s law enforcement agencies are leaking information bit by bit. I only wish they had adopted the British system of criminal investigations under which there’s a total news blackout on such matters & all related news is available only when the trial gets underway & sentencing is pronounced—all in less than 1 year.
To Anon@10PM: Not need to get so hyped-up, since it such disinformation only shows the BBC in the wrong/bad light as far as discerning readers go.
To ABHISHEK DHAR: 1) Not at all, since one SSN can do the job of three SSKs. 2) SSNs are more noisy only in shallow waters, not in deep waters. 2) USN’s CBGs have since then introduced several innovations like AUWs equipped with dipping sonars to detect such lurking SSKs. SSKs with AIP will still not have the kind of unlimited endurance than SSNs have. 2) New. 3) Because Ukraine is the OEM, not Russia. 4) In future, perhaps.
To LITTLEMASTER: 1) Because the final-assembly line’s production capacity hasn’t increased at the shopfloor-levels. 2) None at the moment. 3) Already mentioned above. 4) Yes, both bunkers & observation posts. 5) LSPs weren’t built by a dedicated final-assembly line, the SPs will be. 6) Hopefully. 7) Don’t blame NDTV or any other channel. Blame the source of the leaks, i.e. Delhi Police & other state-level police agencies.
To SUJOY MAJUMDAR: Not sabotage, but either non-adherence to SOPs or material malfunction of some of the on-board sensors. The Ruskies had claimed the same when the Kursk sank, but became more sober in their analysis after the Kursk’s wreckage was salvaged. No MoU was inked with anyone for producing this light tank.
To RAVI: They’re still on-going. Results will be known only this October.
Thanks Prasun .
But even against PGMs like Brimstone or JAGM the T 90 and Arjun are basically helpless .
How will they save themselves ?
Dear Sir,
VMT for your answer
i had watched the video for the link provided by you & it's about crop-circles but there is no such information about who is behind such phenomena & actually some Silicon-based aliens life forms involved. Kindly give more expaination on this matter.
2. i was studying through various decalssified UFO files by goverments like USA, UK , Canada France UN, etc & all such files leads to one conclusion that around 85-90% of SO-caled UFO sighting are hoaxes, bt 10-15% phenomena are still unexplained by any theoritical or practical science, also after this i came across various links pertaining to Aliens life forms such as Plaiedians, Acturians, Reptillians, etc & from such data it is clear that Aliens also are developing there intelligence level compare to universe & 'Acturians' are most Advanced & developed beings in this galaxy which feed on positive energy while reptilians feed on negative energy & 'Acturians' are saving earth from such reptillians aliens as such they have evil intentions & greys aliens are nothing but cloned beings developed by reptillians for their growth & energy
3.Also Plaiedians are most resembance to humans & they are aso displaced from their home planets Avion which destroyed by reptillians in war & they seek out for new planets such as Lyra, Pladies etc
Kindly give your view poinfts on this matter.
Eagerly Awaiting for your reply
Thanking you in advance.
is there mid air refueling probe on tejas mk1 ?
Sir, VMT
1.In the L-70 Bofors that was shown in the Ndtv vid it didnt look like that it had provisions for automatic laying. It didnt also had the thermal imager and the sights which the L70 got after the 2007 upgrades.
2.Maybe it was to be used as a direct fire weapon,not an AAA after all.
3.Is the ZU-23-2 manually or electrically laid throu joysticks when it is being used as AAA. The some pics of it which i have seen of ZU-23-2, in them there were 2 operators and they were manually laying as well as firing the gun.
Is the 106 mm RCL still in service?I assumed it was phased out after 1971 Indo Pak war.
4."US since the early 1970s & that’s why the US has always been sympathetic to India in terms of sharing high-tech know-how & know-why" Can you pls give some details about these ?What tech has Uncle Sam ever shared with us ?
5.Doesnt the Tejas mk1 having el/m-2032 mmr. It has detailed air to ground modes-sar,istar,gmti/t along with terrain avoidance. With all these modes Tejas can surely carry and provide targetting data to those agm and glide weapons. Whats happening here actually ?
6.Maybe that island where the NASD is situated is nt in Google Earthor in other maps. And does IAF also store ordance both aam and agm in such underground super hardened structures ?
7.Is the Arihant hull made from titanium alloys and not the HLES-80 high strength steel of Scorpene ?
How much time will it take to repair those subs and put them back to sea.SSK operational avialability is at all time low.
8. Because of the various types of exercises now underway within the TAR by the PLA. Several new types of weapon systems are being deployed & tested out, especially this year. Can you pls tell about the new type of weapons being tested out.
subir is just a lazy and time-pass bugger who uses Mr. Prasun to research and brings back information for his childish reading and then fires follow-up questions for further research by Mr Prasun to pass the tests subir conducts from time to time.
All these things ends up just for timepass. neither his questions bring some new thinking or lights up an issue, nor someone hardly cares his questions.
VMT for the answers sir,
Will the Chitradurga test range have large anechoic chambers where a full size fighter aircraft can be accommodated to measure its RCS? IF not then how will it measure the RCS of an aircraft, or shall it also have the rather minuscule RCS measuring facility like the one ADA seems to have- the picture I have of the that shows that only a rather small scaled down model of an aircraft can be accommodated.
Sir I was specifically referring to whether our titanium sponge production capability/capacity has increased or not?
Furthermore, who developed and manufactured the HY-80 steel for the Arihant's hull, IF that is the steel being used. IF not then what steel has been used in hull construction and how does it
compare to the HY-80?
Also sir I had referred to titanium alloy in the context of sub construction because II wanted to know whether it will be feasible for India to construct complete hulls from said titanium alloy like in the case of the Alfa class submarines?
Also I believe that HDW claims that the Type-212 subs have been constructed from demagnetized steel? Is that the same as low-magnetic steel?
Apparantly South Korea and Greece are having problems with the Type-214 subs- "The first Type 214 submarine sold to Korea, Son Won-il, was reported to suffer noise problems allegedly due to faults in HDW's Type 214 design. South Korean and Greek Type 214 submarines had a host of other nearly identical problems, including instability while surfaced, periscope vibrations and seawater leaking in the hydraulics. While these problems in the South Korean Type 214s have been reportedly resolved, the noise level has yet to be reduced as promised by HDW. The company was fined $4.1 million by DAPA in February 2008 for ongoing technical problems. In November, a South Korean National Assembly demanded price reductions for the remaining six submarines, arguing that HDW was using the South Korean market to correct faults in the Type 214 to increase the submarine's overall international export potential. It is uncertain if DAPA received a price reduction for the fourth unit when it was contracted to DSME"- (http://www.seapower-digital.com/seapower/seapower_sample/?pg=52#pg52). How could an experienced sub manufacturer like HDW end up with making such a mistake?
From this certified Clown Subir , no legitimate expectation of decency should be expected as Clowning has No limits.
India should procure Ice Road clearing vehicles western countries uses for clearing their winter roads and keeps near BDO air field where c130 landed yesterday for winter usage, so that C130 can land throught out the year if ice formation is the only reason prohibiting all the year operations. I dont know if this is the only reason to be frank.
Hi Prasun
Hal and drdo are pursuing 2 aesa radar designs ? .Is this is a joke or some thing , idiots wasting our money!. Is it true?.
israel and france take a decade or more to develop one ,
There was scary article by S.gurumoorthy in todays edition of Indian express where he details china`s trade balance with india is equal to more than 2 times the defence budget of china! in fact we are arming the enemy ! comments please, this gov is destroying this country with the food security bill , throwing money to get votes and screw india in the process
Your analysis about the kilos disaster was caused by missile fuel has been confirmed by other navy writers who say that one torpedo warhead or a missile warhead is enough to blow the total fore section away if it had happened , more over the video shows red fire with sort off sparkles .
Furthermore Sir, why is the DRDO so keen to embarrass itself? I remember the SSS I-12 illustration of a larger SSBN which the DRDO had issued as the prospective Arihant follow on submarine. That illustration is a nakedly obvious copy of the illustration of the Alexander Nevsky/Borei class submarine shown in this image- http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/20337019/sn/1353668306/name/Alexander+Nevsky+submarine.jpg
At least one can avoid such obvious gaffes?
Also why have there been no clear images of the S-2 Arihant released, what's the point of not releasing even a proper image- how can that possibly aid in maintaining secrecy since almost everyone knows where the sub was built, where its HAT was conducted?
a recent article on Foreign Policy quotes a US general saying they will be operating out of a base in India. True?
Prasun sir, if the economic situation continues to fall as it's happening now, will we be able to afford Rafale?
Is the deal going to be cancelled?
Prasun sir,
What do you think the chances of the a rafale deal being signed during this current finical year are (FY2013-14)??
How this steep degradation of the financial crisis can be stopped. Your kind suggestions please?
AND now the Chitradurga test range has been halted by the National Green Panel based on certain petitions asking for the land being restored to its original state.
Seems like whatever we plan goes down the drain as always- we want to build roads for the army in the NE and the environmental ministry steps in, we want to build a test range and they have objections- IF some big tycoon wants to build a large factory though then they bend over and proffer their posteriors for a reaming.
Amazing nation of ours, what do you think will happen now?
hi Prasunda,
watch this video. Most
defence video. ROFL
m.youtube.com/watch?
v=ktQOLO4U5iQ
Hi Prasun sir,
1) How many Nag ATGMs do you think IA will end up procuring?
2) Any updates on Akash Mk-2 SAM?
3) How much maximum payload do you think Tejas Mk-2 can carry?
4) Do you suppose Tejas Mk-2 will also be equipped with the Nirbhay-Mini 750-km ALCM?
5) When is the 2nd Saryu-class OPV coming?
6) Do you think private-sector shipyards like Pipavav can handle construction of LPD/LPH-type vessels? Do you think they may get the contracts for making them?
7) Have you seem the DRDO MCWS assault rifle in person? Can you post a good detailed picture of the actual gun if possible, in a future thread?
8) Are private shipyards currently working on any major ship projects for IN?
9) Any progress on developing LAH/LAG variant of LCH?
10) Will Tejas Mk-2 also be equipped with Meteor BVRAAM after IAF gets them for Rafale?
Sir,
1.Wont the QA and QC of SP Tejas be much higher than LSP?Will the sp sport more machine parts than lsp ones.
2.What is the significance of the weapons trials at Jamnagar.Such trilas were also carried out previously.What is acheived by dropping droptanks and sone dumb bombs and firing a R-73 again and again.
3.Why doesnt ADA release a vid of a Bvraam shot.
4.Does K-15 Sagarika weighs 17t as said and is it already under production?There isnt any platforms for it yet.
5.What are the differences betwwen K-4mk1 and 2?
6.Is the Drdo Chitraguda RCS nad ECM faility up and running?Is it being used by IAF at present for jamming,ecm and esm training by airforce .
7.What is the significance of an airlaunched ballistic missile of teh K family. Is it different frm supersonic ALCM.
8.HAL said"“HAL-ARDC is taking up for development and qualification of certain LRUs required for catering to LCA-Mark 2 version. The first prototype aircraft is slated for built during 2013-14, while series production(s) are planned for induction to fleet which is stated to be taken up in two phases commencing from 2016 onwards.” Isnt it being very optimistic
9.Which IAF spy ac entered Pakistan airspace.
10.Is it fair that gov remains silent when PLA troops enter many kms into Indian territory in Tawang and lecture us that it their land and Army officers, a mjor perhaps has to negotiate that tbhey cant be allowed to proceed further. When they should have been kicked back to their side of LAC. Standing on our land they dobnt have any rights to say so. Its a gross violation of our sovereignty.
3.
sir,
1.what is the status of indian army's QR-SAM tender?how many missiles will be procured?is it true that VL-MICA missile is the frontrunner?
2.is it possible for L&T to design and construct a SSK?
PRASUN,
According to RIA Novosti-
"An Indian military delegation has arrived in St. Petersburg to discuss military-technical collaboration in submarine-building.The agenda of the talks included the possibility of a second round of upgrading for India’s Kilo-class (Project 877 EKM) diesel-electric submarines, as well as Russian participation in the Indian tender for six new diesel-electric subs and other issues aimed at boosting the development of India’s submarine fleet."
Prasun, is the navy go for the Amur-1650 or Amur-950 for project 75i? The "other issue"- is related to development of SSN?
I have discussed how the United States can disable or explode India’s nuclear warheads while they are in storage, in transit, mounted on a missile or while the missile is in flight, by using microwave signals from satellites to control the electronic circuitry that triggers the warhead (just as microwave signals control the electronic circuitry in a cell phone to make the cell phone do whatever it does) and suggested measures to defend against it. The exploding of a torpedo while it was being loaded on an Indian submarine was done the same way, to make India switch from Russian to Western submarines just as over a thousand Indian air force aircraft have been crashed, most by microwave signals from satellites, with the participation of RAW which is a branch of the CIA. The publicity blitz about an American-built Super-Hercules landing in Ladakh to show China India’s “might” has the same purpose.
IndianAirForcePilotsMurderDOTblogspotDOTcom .
sir,
1.does t-90 tank have night fighting capability?
2.previously you have mentioned that army is preferring heavy tanks?then why the army is inducting not more than 240 arjun tanks?
3.how many arjun tanks can be transported by a c-17?
When a country has no forward planning, no strategic thinking and little regard for SOP no one needs using any technology. Satish C might be a subscriber of some Conspiracies Today magazine but the truth is negligence, apathy and poor OHS that causes almost all mishaps in India. Walk around an international factory/ workshop be it even Thai or Indonesian and walk around an Indian one and unless it is maintained under some foreign company one is sure to be greeted with paan spits all around, even urinated walls. I was showing my boys who have not seen much of India trains and here they see at least a dozen men peeing on the wall of a factory and women just walking past them and here Satish C you are suggesting the Americans are so desperate for business they are spending hours disabling weapons of no threat?
@Pierre Zorin,
That guys name is Satish Chandra. I have encountered some of his articles for some time and found his thinking is quite revolutionary.
What you read is just a tip of an ice berg. You might get amazed his other articles. He often posts some sites but I have never visited them.
Even though I do not subscribe his notions of the English Countries targeting India, some of his ideas are quite interesting.. especially regarding economy.
Prasun sir, you have not given any replies for many days. What's wrong? Is everything OK?
I suppose you are busy with other work?
To DEFENSE & AEROSPACE: All MBTs are presently defenceless against top-attack guided-weapons, since even APS can defeat only direct-fire projectiles like APFSDS rounds & RPG rounds along with wire-guided ATGMs.
To PINKAL SHAH: The video on crop-circles very clearly shows & explains a crop-circle pattern which explains the DNA structure of an alien species as well as its silicon-base.
To ANIL: No.
To SUBIR: What tech has Uncle Sam ever shared with us?--------------------Do you really want an answer to that? Do think 10,000 times before answering my question.
To BHASWAR: No anechoic chambers can accurately measure RCS. For that one has to hang a full-scale replica of the aircraft 70 feet above the ground. That’s how the rest of the world does it. Titanium-sponge production scales will increase to industrial levels only after there’s sufficient internal demand for it. The majority of the demand comes not from the defence sector, but from the space sector. S-2 Arihant SSBN was built with NQ-1, a derivative of HY-80 grade steel & JINDAL Steel supplied it. Titanium-alloy can be used by India for building SSNs, but not SSBNs, because SSNs generally have single-hull configuration. The visual you claimed as that of being that of Alexander Nevsky/Borei-class SSBN was never claimed by its designer—Rubin Central Marine Engineering Design Bureau—as being that of the Borei-class SSBN. In fact, rumours arising from Russia-based bloggers led to this confusion. The design was always meant to be for export & that too to India. DRDO had no role to play in this confusion.
To Anon@5.33AM: DBO is not an air base but an ALG & will therefore never be used regularly, bit only sparingly & that too temporarily until the road now under construction finally reaches DBO. The type of vehicles you’re referring to will be used for Nyoma, which will be a full-fledged air base.
To RAD: HAL isn’t developing any AESA-MMR. At most, HAL will partake in the licenced-production of the FGFA’s AESA-MMR after it has completed doing the same for the NO-11M Bars PESA-MMR. Take it from me that the DRDO will come up with an AESA-MMR technology demonstrator only after another 5 years & will take another seven at the very least to make it worthy of being flight-tested. Of course the country’s being screwed in every way possible due to the current crop of political leaders all living in a world of make-belief across-the-spectrum. That’s why no major military hardware procurements will take place this fiscal year. The IN’s LPH & Project 75I programmes, for instance, have been postponed indefinitely. Regarding INS Sindhurakshak, it must be borne in mind that there are several items inside the SSK that are explosive in nature, like pyrotechnics, distress signals, etc that could have accidentally exploded while being loaded (due to unintentional mis-handling) & that could well have been the trigger that may have set of the missile’s solid-fuel rocket propellants.
To ANON@10PM: Not true. But a logistics support agreement similar to the one the US has with Singapore & The Philippines will likely be inked in the near future, so that US naval forces can regularly visit Indian ports or naval bases to pick up perishable supplies & fuel as well. Financially, it be of enormous benefit to India. Furthermore, the MoD needs to authorise both the MoD-owned shipyards & private-sector shipyards to conduct periodic & unscheduled MRO activities for US Navy warships since this will again be of tremendous financial & technological benefit to Indian shipyards. Of the India-based Left Front morons won’t agree to this proposition, but on the other hand these morons don’t have any other alternative money-making offer, do they?
To K SHANKAR & MINDER: No Rafale, no LPH, no Project 75I. All have been postponed till FY 2014.
To MR.RA 13: Elementary: stop being a refusing-to-develop-country (RDC). For instance, even several months after the breakout of Coalgate & the iron-ore mining scams, till now the Govt of India hasn’t achieved any closure, when common-sense would have dictated that within 3 months itself corrective measures could have been undertaken & business could have resumed in a transparent manner. Instead, this did not happen, & coal has now to be imported, several power-generation plants are now almost closed due to non-availability of domestic coal, while iron ore exports are nil. Worst, the retroactive taxation legislation has to be revoked immediately. Do all this, & India’s economy will be able to heave a sigh of relief.
To BHASWAR: Yeh toh hona hi tha! Furthermore, while the new Corps HQ at Panagarh will take at least 7 years to become functional, I very much doubt if the road transportation infrastructure reqd for this Corps will even be ready by 2020. And don’t be surprised either if more than half of those coastal surveillance radars now being installed along with Observ cameras will become inoperable by 2015, similar to those CCTV cameras near the Babri Mosque at Ayodhya that have long been kaput.
To GESSLER: 1) At least 5,000. 2) No. 3) At least 6 tonnes. 4) No. One requires high-wing aircraft with sufficient ground clearance for that, like Jaguar IS, MiG-29K & Su-30MKI. 5) By the year’s end. 6) Of course they can. Even if the dhoti-clad politicians don’t want such shipyards to get any contracts from the MoD, then at least allow these private-sector shipyards to offer their MRO services to the US Navy, which desperately needs them for its PACOM, CENTCOM & AFRICOM Commands. 7) No. 8) Only training vessels. 9) No. 10) Can it be done? Of course. Will it be done? Maybe.
To LITTLEMASTER: 1) That’s the plan & intention. 2) I fail to see any significance. 3) Because no BVRAAMs have been fired as yet. 4) K-15 isn’t Sagarika. Sagarika is the name of the DRDO’s project office for developing SLBMs. 5) K-4 will have a range of 4,500km & this will eventually be extended to 6,500km by 2025, when the S-5/S-6/S-7 SSBNs will start being delivered. 6) Not yet. 7) There’s no such missile. 8) Several indigenous LRUs will be common to the Tejas Mk1 & Tejas Mk2. 9) Searcher Mk2 MALE-UAV for only 1.5 minutes near Sialkot. 10) This has been going on since 2003. Only after 2008 did the ‘desi’ press corps discover such goings-on.
To ICEMAN: 1) Postponed due to budgetary constraints. 2) Yes, with some help from foreign consultants.
To NEEL: Project 75I has been postponed, period. There’s no money for even the cheaper Amur 1650 SSK. The discussions are meant for a second round of service life-extension of the existing eight Type 877EKM SSKs of the IN, plus preliminary negotiations for a possible SSN construction programme, both of which I had predicted well in advance.
To SATISH C: Simply impossible in the case of INS Sindhurakshak. Why? Because the warheads were not armed.
To ICEMAN: 1) Of course. It always had it. 2) More follow-on orders will follow in future. 3) One.
Prasun, i follow your blog and have great respect for your analysis and detailed presentation giving 'total' view of the issue.
however i have 2 suggestions and i hope you implement them.
1. your background color on the site does not help better viewing and reading. it hurts eyes to read because the text merges (obviously not totally) with the background.
2. it is great you take an effort to answer everyone but the problem is your answers are sooo far down the page and separate that i find it difficult place who asked what and what is your response.
it would great if you can answer them immediately under their query or quote their query in your answer. it will help everyone i guess.
regards.
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